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August 17, 2019, 04:29:37 PM |
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I hear you.
India has no mod. But Theymos does not hear you (yet).
So let's put together a list of candidates that you think is active here and can moderate this board.
Just reply to this post with a name recommendation and a comment on why you support that guy.
In the end, I'll create a meta thread and our top picks would be suggested there so that Theymos can take a look at it and decide.
Self-mod to avoid shitheads / spams
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legendster (OP)
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August 17, 2019, 04:31:01 PM |
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I vote for Benson SamuelHe has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well. Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved.
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August 17, 2019, 05:11:33 PM |
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I vote for Benson SamuelHe has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well. Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved. His status show he is last active on Aug 14 2019, but he hasn't posted anything for almost a year and a half. So, I believe he is not as active as before to moderate the Indian Board. Heisenberg_Hunter, not a legendary member but doing a good job here even if he doesn't post much in the Indian Board. So, I'll vote for him.
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August 17, 2019, 06:05:07 PM |
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I vote for Benson SamuelHe has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well. Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved. His status show he is last active on Aug 14 2019, but he hasn't posted anything for almost a year and a half. So, I believe he is not as active as before to moderate the Indian Board. Heisenberg_Hunter, not a legendary member but doing a good job here even if he doesn't post much in the Indian Board. So, I'll vote for him. Yes mate you are right the Heisenberg_Hunter is very active in Bitcointalk community, so I am going to support him only, Heisenberg_Hunter doing well mate keep going.
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legendster (OP)
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August 17, 2019, 07:09:56 PM |
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Earlier I had a minor scuffle with Heisenberg_Hunter.
Or so I thought.
Given the light of recent incidents, I think I am willing to let that go and even support him if that's what it takes to keep this section clean.
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Heisenberg_Hunter
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August 18, 2019, 07:16:45 AM Merited by legendster (1) |
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Thanks for all the trust you people have kept on me. But the appointment of moderator (at least in bitcointalk) doesn't take place in the way of voting. The forum is a decentralized one and not as we think the majority of other forums are. Here report statistics speaks for themselves. If you have reported more posts and if the percentage of good reports are higher you will have a fair chance to become a moderator. As I always say, I don't quote myself as a top reporter in the Indian board and the stats can only be presented by theymos himself. More importantly we need the stats of reporters after Benson was dethroned from the position. Right now I have around 820-850 reports and from that around 650-700 good reports should probably be from the Indian section. I have PM'd theymos regarding the stats and we need to wait for the reply from him. I urge everyone to read my previous post on the current stance of our country and people in terms of adopting digital currencies. We need to note that, moderator is just a volunteer and not like a leader/administrator for the section. They can only move posts to correct sections and represent the community in a global level. It's sad to note that, I haven't came across even a single Indian developer contributing to the bitcoin code. Among the fellow Indian crypto enthusiasts (where around 90-95% of them are traders) I took a different path to learn the code and thinking of contributing to the source code in future once I get strong with the concepts. Considering the Altcoins (India) subsection, they are completely dominated by low level greedy spammers who don't care anything for the forum and just translate shit to receive free money. Being a non-native Hindi speaker, my point of view might be wrong with translations. So if anyone of you find a fake translation taking place in the child board, report them regularly until they get handled by global mods. I report regularly in other Indian child boards and main boards and they are being handled within a hour or two either by global mods or mitzie (Greek mod). P. S : Reporter Statistics are important, let us wait for it.
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August 18, 2019, 08:50:55 AM |
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I really don't know who to support to be a smart for India because I am recently active in the local board so I am not so who prefer to moderate and spend time to be a moderator here so I will wait and decide who is doing the right word to be a moderator.
I saw lot of Indian members on the main board but not here much active.
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August 19, 2019, 05:19:26 AM |
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I concur that Heisenberg as Mod would be great.
A new Mod would be nice to have but what we really need is some more initiative. Great to see people getting enthusiastic towards the board.
I do wish some of the older, well-meaning people would come around. Benson is one name. Who else do you guys know? From the older generation, I think we only have legendster being active enough.. (Older generation...lol..)
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legendster (OP)
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August 19, 2019, 06:50:15 AM Last edit: August 19, 2019, 07:11:24 AM by legendster |
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I concur that Heisenberg as Mod would be great.
A new Mod would be nice to have but what we really need is some more initiative. Great to see people getting enthusiastic towards the board.
I do wish some of the older, well-meaning people would come around. Benson is one name. Who else do you guys know? From the older generation, I think we only have legendster being active enough.. (Older generation...lol..)
There was one guy I hated. He's a little trigger friend. But rich-af. I used to call him Dishwasher. lol but his id was Disawra or Dishawara or something. Extremely knowledgeable about mining though. Def. not one to moderate but would be nice to have him back. Then there was Americandesi - the resident Ripple guy. Even had a ripple based forum. And Skang - who's a big shot these days. infonetenergy was a frequent poster. I never interacted with him though. Amitabh - the well respected phd guy turned altcoin stealer. ( I still can't believe) subvolatil - the pink pony cypherpunk guy. (good guy) dashingriddler - the guy behind unocoin if I'm not mistaken.
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August 19, 2019, 09:35:12 AM Last edit: August 19, 2019, 03:05:08 PM by JSRAW |
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If we are going with the voting system, then I would suggest that we should inform other Indian users as well. otherwise, there is a high possibility that we could end up as a small group and then no one going to hear our side as a community and the last thing we want is eco chamber where we are cursing everyone about "nothing going to change."
Some members are quite active in the International community, and I respect them as a community member. We need to think about them as well and bring them back to the Indian community.
Please add more name to this list. We can use some support here, every member counts.
1. Joel_Jantsen (i think he's DT2 as well) he's not Indian 2. patatas 3. Juggy777 4. Haunebu 5. bryant.coleman 6. Vishnu.Reang 7. erikalui : (he's already active here i suppose) 8. akram143 : (Not sure if he's from Pak or India. will confirm.) 9. deadley 10. onrise 11. iamsheikhadil 12. avikz (he's active here as well) 13. Krishnapramod (if I am not wrong, then this guy has the highest report if that's a big thingy.) 14. Eality 15. newIndia
If we can bring good amount of users on the same page/same goal, then I am positive we can present our case better. In terms of Mod, activity, Merit source, etc. We are strong if we are working towards one goal together. The difference of opinion can happen, but we shouldn't change goal post at any cost.
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@Hunter : Yeah, you are right. By " big thingy" I didn't mean to point out any disagreement, my main focus was to bring all Indian user back to the Indian board so that they can have their say in any decision-discussion in future.
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August 19, 2019, 10:52:29 AM Last edit: August 19, 2019, 11:06:16 AM by Heisenberg_Hunter |
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Reporter statistics is the primary consideration in the appointment of a moderator for any board. For instance, rickbig doesn't post much anywhere either in the English board or in the local board but based on his reports he is extremely well suited for the global moderator position. If Muhammad Zakir was still active, he would have been the MOD without any further clarifications. Apart from him, I support krishnapramod, Eality, newIndia and deadly. Everyone miss a person like MZ (perfect example for being a MOD) ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) I have PM'd theymos a day back requesting for reporter statistics in the Indian board, that should probably be helpful if we get a reply.
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August 19, 2019, 02:32:42 PM |
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If you are not Indian then you will not connect with the Indians. Suggesting Joel to mod Indian board is like asking King Arthur to speak Bhojpuri. Also, Erika can't be a mod with his / her tainted trust. The only one from your list that I could support is Pramod. But I have never interacted with him Besides, guys like Patatas and I are kinda short tempered. We need people that are more diplomatic. So I'd like to interact with some of these people that you have suggested, before I rule out any other Indian on the list.
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If you are not Indian then you will not connect with the Indians. Suggesting Joel to mod Indian board is like asking King Arthur to speak Bhojpuri. Also, Erika can't be a mod with his / her tainted trust. The only one from your list that I could support is Pramod. But I have never interacted with him Besides, guys like Patatas and I are kinda short tempered. We need people that are more diplomatic. So I'd like to interact with some of these people that you have suggested, before I rule out any other Indian on the list. I am not endorsing anyone from this list for Indian Mod or anything. my point was to include other Indians as well in any process or any voting for future because 5 people taking participation in any voting doesn't make sense IMHO. My apologies, I was under the impression that Joel is Indian. If he's not then yes doesn't make any sense. And I suggest, At this stage let Amish or Hunter do the talking with the other members or promoting anything related to the Indian community because I am on hold regarding your trust ratings. But if I have to endorse someone. Then I will go with the following users: 1. Promod: I haven't interacted him here, but I think I know him in real. 2. Hunter: Cool dude 3. amishmanish : sometimes he and Hunter both sound carbon copy to me. Both are cool. 4. Patatas : We talked a couple of time. Yeah, he has a temper but a reasonable guy. Having said that in the end, it depends on the community or highest reports stats when opting for MOD.
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August 20, 2019, 04:08:50 AM |
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I am not endorsing anyone from this list for Indian Mod or anything. my point was to include other Indians as well in any process or any voting for future because 5 people taking participation in any voting doesn't make sense IMHO.
My apologies, I was under the impression that Joel is Indian. If he's not then yes doesn't make any sense.
And I suggest, At this stage let Amish or Hunter do the talking with the other members or promoting anything related to the Indian community because I am on hold regarding your trust ratings.
But if I have to endorse someone. Then I will go with the following users:
1. Promod: I haven't interacted him here, but I think I know him in real. 2. Hunter: Cool dude 3. amishmanish : sometimes he and Hunter both sound carbon copy to me. Both are cool. 4. Patatas : We talked a couple of time. Yeah, he has a temper but a reasonable guy.
Having said that in the end, it depends on the community or highest reports stats when opting for MOD.
Patatas, even though composed at many times, is not suitable to be the Indian mod. He is not Indian and would not be able to connect with us here, understand the ground realities vs what he reads online. Anyone that is chosen to be the Indian mod must at the least understand the difference between what's written on paper officially and how things work practically. Frankly - even you do not have that sense, else you and I wouldn't be having a point of contention about my past mistakes. Second point, stop mentioning people's first name. This exposes their identity unnecessarily and could land them in hot waters or serve as ammunition for extortion, doxxing, personal attacks, like in the case of kabit9 vs me. Lastly, I would like to endorse Promod as well, but I have never seen him interact here. Amish & Hunter are good choices, I would lean towards Hunter more than Amish because I have been noticing him from day 1. I believe his sense of judgment is not compromised. Neither is Amish's but I haven't had the time to observe him.
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Good to see that the community is active here and i am sure if we collectively voice our opinion to theymos he will make a decision, there were chatters earlier about appointing a mod here but it was not a collective effort, i support anyone who will take his time to weed out the spam and make this a great local board, global mods are taking care of my reports here but it takes a couple of days and with 50 plus odd pending reports i usually pump my brakes ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) but it gets resolved eventually. If we have a dedicated mod here to take care of the reports that would be great. Thank you JSRAW and Heisenberg_Hunter for the suggestion. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Benson Samuel is not active for a long time and i even asked his help when he was a mod here to clean this section but he was busy in real life and you cannot complaint him. Muhammad Zakir is not active either, when he came online last year i tried to have a conversation with him and exchanged a couple of PM and then he disappeared again. To make this local board great with quality posters, we need to have a merit source too and i have seen Heisenberg_Hunter merit application and i support him and hopefully theymos will hear our collective voice . Anyone who wishes to contact me can reach me in telegram @eality
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August 20, 2019, 06:18:44 AM |
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Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention.. We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here. As a mod, I think it'll be much easier to organize the Child Boards. Weed out the unnecessary clutter, especially in the translation sections. As of now, the regulatory framework is in a grey area so it is understandable that a lot of old people/ HODLers have gone inactive. Yet, we can create and outreach and make the India-sub a welcoming, informative as well as a sincere, authentic source of local information for newcomers. For example, Someone like legendster and JSRAW could be the outreach for freelancing and work opportunities. Heisenberg is delving into the technical and dev part and he could provide an outreach for interested developers. Dishwara seems to be pretty busy. Deadley has been an old community/ campaign manager. Then of course we need our local spam-busters and Scam-identifiers too. We also have a host of CA's and Lawyers who bob their heads here and there at times. We have a great group building out here. If Theymos took note, things can become a lot more organized and the India-sub could regain its true potential.
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August 20, 2019, 06:47:50 AM |
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Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..
We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here. As a mod, I think it'll be much easier to organize the Child Boards. Weed out the unnecessary clutter, especially in the translation sections.
A community means way more than just keeping the sections clean. In a community, people respect each other for whatever they are worth. They learn from mistakes, they move on. People build their opinion on personal experiences and so far, my experience has been - get extorted, get blackmailed, get tagged for shit you didn't do. I'm sorry if this seems pessimistic but off late this is the kind of toxicity that has come out of this region. And this is not unique to this forum. As of now, the regulatory framework is in a grey area so it is understandable that a lot of old people/ HODLers have gone inactive. Yet, we can create and outreach and make the India-sub a welcoming, informative as well as a sincere, authentic source of local information for newcomers.
It will be a few years before the gov decides on what to do. Remember how long the case for Aadhaar actually took? For example, Someone like legendster and JSRAW could be the outreach for freelancing and work opportunities.
Despite his flawed sense of judgment. I still have no beef with Jrsaw. I chose to improve, he chose to ignore. So I move on. in my book, I win. Heisenberg is delving into the technical and dev part and he could provide an outreach for interested developers. Dishwara seems to be pretty busy. I can help on that end as I have had an extensive history with masternodes. I have helped out in the tech boards whenever I was able to. Deadley has been an old community/ campaign manager.
Known him for a long time. Good guy but we have our differences. However, he is not untrustworthy. Then of course we need our local spam-busters and Scam-identifiers too.
Can do and have done. But then again, it all comes down to what you enjoy doing and as I have mentioned before I certainly don't enjoy interacting with most Indians on this forum anymore. Although there are many exceptions. We also have a host of CA's and Lawyers who bob their heads here and there at times.
Maybe we can get the CK guys to sign up here or reveal their useri-ds here..
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August 20, 2019, 11:22:51 AM |
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Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..
We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here.
Precisely the same reason I posted a list of Indian members, more poster chipping here only then we can see notable activity in Our board. I am regular in Cricket community, and I see a fair amount of Indian users, will try to convey this msz to them and then it's up to them if they want to contribute in local boards.
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Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..
It will only start if Theymos takes a note just like you said and appoint someone to wipe the spam out from this local section. It's been 1 year or maybe more without a mod and there have been threads in Meta requesting for appointment of a new mod for Indian section but I guess it's not in Theymos priority list yet. Deadly showed some interest here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3125174.msg32324011#msg32324011Krishnapramod have a good amount of reports but it seems like he recently defaulted on a loan from condoras so I don't think it will be a good idea to choose him as a suitable candidate for moderator. : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372359
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To make the Indian Board cleaner and more active, we all have realized that the Indian Board needs an active moderator. In the process of choosing a good moderator, we also have to keep in mind some of the basics, which I keep in front of you as following points: - 1 He or She must be indian 2 He or She should be active in Indian Board 3 There should be no allegations on him 4 He or She should not be part of any troll or allegations. 5 He or she should have a good history in this forum 6 There should not be any kind of serious negative trust on him. 7 Must have the ability to understand the subject 8 He or she should respect the diversity of India, means, all languages and cultures should be respected equally by him. 9 Apart from the English language, he should have knowledge at least two or more official language of India . 10 The most important point, he is be able to place condition of Indian board prominently on other boards and bring its importance to everyone. I see Heisenberg_Hunter as a qualified and best candidate for Moderator of the Indian Board. The way he have assessed the status of the Indian board in the meta board and other boards further strengthens their participation. As far as the matter is Benson Samuel he is no longer active in this forum, so I don't think so he is a good candidate for Indian moderator. I will vote for Heisenberg_Hunter ।
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