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August 20, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
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I would really like to believe that he already lost the keys and therefore no one could ever touch it anymore, it is also a good thing that he remains anonymous and not go public. This two scenarios are link, maybe he can prove himself to be satoshi with his private keys or someone that really knows him  who the public knows that he is legit, but who could be that guy? It is really hard to think about this things so it is surely better be history.
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August 20, 2019, 01:57:33 PM
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I would really like to believe that he already lost the keys and therefore no one could ever touch it anymore, it is also a good thing that he remains anonymous and not go public. This two scenarios are link, maybe he can prove himself to be satoshi with his private keys or someone that really knows him  who the public knows that he is legit, but who could be that guy? It is really hard to think about this things so it is surely better be history.

he must have lost it. losing private keys is like losing all your btc.
if indeed he claims he is the real satoshi, he will still be ridiculed for he will need to prove by signing message or send btc to an address and if he can not provide all these he will fail.  granting he is the real satoshi but he can't provide all these information, he will still be ignored.









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August 20, 2019, 02:58:22 PM
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I am not saying that I believe his story what so ever. Lets say Satoshi Nakamoto DID really lose his keys due to a freakish accident. Would there be any way he could actually prove himself.
If someone is smart enough to create something that majority of the digital world was looking for decades, he wont make a foolish accident that could make him loose him key in a freakish accident, we can only speculate about the situation until the creator himself comes up with the proof and reveal his story.

If Satoshi was to log into the Satoshi Account on this forumn and say I lost all of my Bitcoin keys, would anyone believe him?
This is being confirmed that the admin has locked the account and only Theymos has control over the account.
 
If from a previouse satoshi acct he said the same thing. I feel I would kind of trust him...
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August 20, 2019, 03:05:28 PM
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One who has innovated such a technology will always have the responsibility to keep his private keys secure. He hasn't revealed himself to the outer world, but there will be few users who have had conversations with him during the early days. This way Satoshi can prove himself even if some sort of accident occurs.

A genius like him will never have his private keys saved somewhere else, surely he will have things memorized.

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August 20, 2019, 03:15:40 PM
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you can say that he can lost his private keys  . private keys are more important than a bitcointalk account because it holds cryptocurrencies , what im saying is that there is also a possibility that he can lost his passwords or forum account and its also suspicious if he becames active one day not unless if he can sign a message using a private key or he can provide other proof that he is legit but i dont think that staking a btc address exist that time on this forum  .
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August 20, 2019, 05:29:31 PM
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I am not saying that I believe his story what so ever. Lets say Satoshi Nakamoto DID really lose his keys due to a freakish accident. Would there be any way he could actually prove himself.

If Satoshi was to log into the Satoshi Account on this forumn and say I lost all of my Bitcoin keys, would anyone believe him?

Would a post here be enough proof?

If THE Satoshi logged in after almost 10 years of being Non Active and said word for word what the Newest Satoshi Scammer is saying but said it on this forumn would the community believe him, or would everyone just think his founder account had been compromised? I am curiouse on everyones thoughts on the subject. If from a previouse satoshi acct he said the same thing. I feel I would kind of trust him...

Even if Satoshi is able to get the private key for the for the account, alot of people would still not believe because the argument at the point is proving if the key was not compromised at any point in time because anyone who who have access to the controls the wallet. The point I am trying to make is that there is no point over flogging the issue as to whether he is coming back or not and for him to stay in the shadows, there is a good reason for it which I am very comfortable with because its all for the best and the implication for coming out is not we all want to witness ourselves.
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August 20, 2019, 07:04:20 PM
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If Satoshi was to log into the Satoshi Account on this forumn and say I lost all of my Bitcoin keys, would anyone believe him?


I would. He had turned up a few times on btt after that point when he lost his HDD. That means he didn't loss with Acer his password to forum and now can prove who he is by login via satoshi account.
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August 20, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
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well as long as he does not sign the wallet noone would believe that he is the real satoshi. but i dont think he will EVER reveal himself, it would be a big surprise for me if he does
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August 20, 2019, 08:12:29 PM
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I would not like to believe that the creator of bitcoin will loss his private key. If somehow really he loss it then I do not see how he will prove himself as satoshi.  Because community will not believe without sign a message from his address due to so many people's already claimed as satoshi. Everything could be hacked include emails, but private key can't hacked. So this is only strong way to prove himself.
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August 20, 2019, 08:24:33 PM
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I don't think such a thing will ever happen to Satoshi and good to know that  you accept that fact that it will not happen and that you are just saying it base on assumption which may not likely come to pass. And if eventually such a thing happen to Satoshi then we will believe on one condition only he signed a message from one of his popular wallet.
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August 20, 2019, 08:44:03 PM
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All these theories are just that.  For my vote, there is absolutely NO way Satoshi lost his/her private keys.  He may be dead (doubtful) but if so then he is not the one claiming to be Satoshi now is he?  I cannot imagine seeing evidence that would convince me if he/she can't sign the btc address.

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August 20, 2019, 08:56:16 PM
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I wont believe that it will gonna happen that satoshi will lost his private key.the mind of satoshi cant be down.a smart person like satoshi cannot be lost his private key.he will probably doing a back up for all private key he does.for a man like satoshi who made a of crypto he is so smart and I know he wont allow to lost his private key.I think this things gonna happen if satoshi lost his mind but I doubt it he is a such smart people.if ever he lost private key I know he has s lot og òption to make it better.everything now is possible.

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August 20, 2019, 09:45:04 PM
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I am not saying that I believe his story what so ever. Lets say Satoshi Nakamoto DID really lose his keys due to a freakish accident. Would there be any way he could actually prove himself.

If Satoshi was to log into the Satoshi Account on this forumn and say I lost all of my Bitcoin keys, would anyone believe him?

Would a post here be enough proof?

If THE Satoshi logged in after almost 10 years of being Non Active and said word for word what the Newest Satoshi Scammer is saying but said it on this forumn would the community believe him, or would everyone just think his founder account had been compromised? I am curiouse on everyones thoughts on the subject. If from a previouse satoshi acct he said the same thing. I feel I would kind of trust him...
This is a bitcoin forum, the only hard evidence that will be accepted to prove his identity is being in control of the addresses that we know belong to satoshi, anything less than that and everyone will question the legitimacy of those claims, if we found ourselves in that scenario it will be way more likely that someone found a way to hack into the account of satoshi than the possibility of satoshi coming back to say that he lost his keys, after all why would satoshi comeback to say that? Whether he still has control of his keys or not it does not matter if he does not move his coins.

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August 20, 2019, 11:56:54 PM
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Satoshi is too wise to hiccup in something he created.
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August 21, 2019, 04:13:29 AM
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Well, sometimes even smart people do stupid things. There's even a book written on this topic!
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August 21, 2019, 04:43:45 AM
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This is a bitcoin forum, the only hard evidence that will be accepted to prove his identity is being in control of the addresses that we know belong to satoshi, anything less than that and everyone will question the legitimacy of those claims, if we found ourselves in that scenario it will be way more likely that someone found a way to hack into the account of satoshi than the possibility of satoshi coming back to say that he lost his keys, after all why would satoshi comeback to say that? Whether he still has control of his keys or not it does not matter if he does not move his coins.

Even if, as he contends, control of known addresses was gone with his bad HDD there  must be  skills yet in him  that once helped in  Bitcoin creation.  He  could use it again  to prove who he actually is. No one else  than he has a better understanding of Bitcoin that still  has some unresolved problems. 
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August 21, 2019, 06:44:46 AM
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What story are you talking of mate? Was their ever a story claiming that satoshi lost his key? I don’t think he did lose those keys for good and the key is safe with him, what satoshi is just waiting for is that moment where bitcoin will be very expensive and once that happens, that might make him the richest man in earth and also the most influential man.

If satoshi even lost his key, he wrote the system and I am sure that he would know how to boycott it and ten gain access to his account, only satoshi can do what most of us cannot do, and I am sure that if satoshi is to gain access to anyone’s account today, he will surely be able to do so, talk more of his own personal account, which I total disagree with anyone including him if claim that the private key is lost.

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August 21, 2019, 06:59:02 AM
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I would not like to believe that the creator of bitcoin will loss his private key. If somehow really he loss it then I do not see how he will prove himself as satoshi
I agree with you here, without the signature from his address, every claim of identity becomes worthless and not to be trusted.
There is no way satoshi is coming on his bitcointalk account again, as his account currently is being secured by theymos to avoid impersonation, he'll first have to prove himself to be the actual creator of the bitcoin before the account can be handed over to him.
We just need to let go of all this theories, speculations, and guess works, and just believe satoshi is fine wherever he is, just as his creation(bitcoin)is fine in our hands.
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Satoshi is fine and well, wherever he is. That is what we all should take home from these discussions. Even if he no longer lives, he has made one of the greatest impacts in the human history and will forever lives on. There are few people like him ever lived and history will always remember all the geniuses, past and present.

Only rare breeds could create something like Bitcoin with no intention of ever profiting from it nor ever taking the glory. We salute him, and humanity will forever remain grateful to him for this reason, for creating one of the most amazing inventions ever made and giving it out freely.

Dear Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto,

Wherever you are and whatever your real identity is, heaven will always remember you.

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August 21, 2019, 09:59:48 AM
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All these theories are just that.  For my vote, there is absolutely NO way Satoshi lost his/her private keys.  He may be dead (doubtful) but if so then he is not the one claiming to be Satoshi now is he?  I cannot imagine seeing evidence that would convince me if he/she can't sign the btc address.
There is actually no way that the real Satoshi is gonna reveal his identity, a man/woman who decided to create an anonymous and almost untraceable digital currency would definitely wants to be anonymous and live his private life. He/she wouldn't be out there claiming to be the creator of the Bitcoins and birthing cryptos into existence.
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