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Just what we needed, more mass media scare...

Terrorists Turn to Bitcoin for Funding, and They’re Learning Fast

By Nathaniel Popper

Aug 18, 2019


SAN FRANCISCO — Hamas, the militant Palestinian group, has been designated a terrorist organization by Western governments and some others and has been locked out of the traditional financial system. But this year its military wing has developed an increasingly sophisticated campaign to raise money using Bitcoin.

In the latest version of the website set up by the wing, known as the Qassam Brigades, every visitor is given a unique Bitcoin address where he or she can send the digital currency, a method that makes the donations nearly impossible for law enforcement to track.

The site, which is available in seven languages and features the brigades’ logo, with a green flag and a machine gun, contains a well-produced video that explains how to acquire and send Bitcoin without tipping off the authorities.

Terrorists have been slow to join other criminal elements that have been drawn to Bitcoin and have used it for everything from drug purchases to money laundering.

But in recent months, government authorities and organizations that track terrorist financing have begun to raise alarms about an uptick in the number of Islamist terrorist organizations experimenting with Bitcoin and other digital coins.

The yields from individual campaigns appear to be modest — in the tens of thousands of dollars. But the authorities note that terrorist attacks often require little funding. And the groups’ use of cryptocurrencies appears to be getting more sophisticated.

“You are going to see more of this,” said Yaya Fanusie, a former analyst with the Central Intelligence Agency who now does consulting on rogue actors using cryptocurrencies. “This is going to be a part of the terrorist financing mix, and it is something that people should pay attention to.”

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has drawn attention to the issue in two speeches in recent months, calling for more active monitoring from cryptocurrency businesses.

“We are dedicating a lot of resources very specifically to this space,” Sigal Mandelker, the Treasury Department’s under secretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, said in an interview. “It is still relatively new to them, but I’m confident that we’re going to see more of it in the future.”

Cryptocurrencies are attractive to lawbreakers because they make it possible to hold and transfer money without a central authority, like PayPal, that can shut down accounts and freeze funds. Anyone in the world can create a Bitcoin address and begin receiving digital tokens without even providing a name or an address.

The online markets where Bitcoin can buy drugs are hosting nearly $1 billion in commerce a year, even as the authorities have shut down numerous leading markets.

Countries that are facing American economic sanctions, like Iran, Venezuela and Russia, have also taken steps toward creating their own cryptocurrencies to circumvent them.

Bitcoin has been slower to take off among terrorists in part because of its technical sophistication, terrorism experts said. Terrorist groups have also had methods of using the traditional financial system without needing Bitcoin.

Hamas, which controls the Palestinian coastal territory of Gaza, has traditionally survived on hundreds of millions of dollars of donations from foreign governments like Qatar. The Islamic State in Syria subsisted on taxes and fees it collected in the territories it controlled.

But both organizations have seen their access to money significantly curtailed. Israel maintains a strict blockade of Gaza, with Egypt’s help, and Hamas has been squeezed over the last year by financial cuts imposed by the rival, Western-backed Palestinian Authority. And the Islamic State has lost most of its territory.

“They seem to be reacting to all the economic sanctions by saying, ‘We are going to try using Bitcoin,’” said Steven Stalinsky, the executive director of the Middle East Media Research Institute, a nonprofit that tracks and translates communication from terrorist groups.

Mr. Stalinsky’s organization, known as Memri, is about to publish a 253-page report about the increased signs of cryptocurrency use by terrorist organizations, particularly groups in Syria that are on the run as Islamic militants have lost almost all the territory they used to hold.

A leading sheikh with one of the biggest terrorist groups in Syria, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, posted a long video to his online followers in July, explaining the origins of Bitcoin and declaring that it is permissible to use for charitable donations, according to a translation of the video by Memri.

A number of online researchers have recently discovered campaigns by Syrian militants that asked followers to send donations to Bitcoin addresses they posted on Telegram, a popular social network. One post, found by Raphael Gluck, an independent researcher, put the Bitcoin address under the picture of a man wearing camouflage and shooting a military-style rifle.

Signs that terrorists were using Bitcoin had been sporadic for several years. Mr. Fanusie, the former C.I.A. analyst, drew public attention to a fund-raising campaign begun in 2016 by the Mujahedeen Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, a group based in Gaza that is designated a terrorist organization.

But the early efforts were clumsy. The Gaza campaign provided a single Bitcoin address, which made it easier for law enforcement to track where the money was coming from. The wallet advertised by the group took in only a few thousand dollars’ worth of Bitcoin.

When the Qassam Brigades began collecting money late last year, an Israeli research firm, Whitestream, determined that Hamas was keeping at least some of the money in wallets that were set up with the American cryptocurrency company Coinbase.

Coinbase’s chief compliance officer, Jeff Horowitz, said that after tying the account to the Qassam Brigades, it immediately froze the account and reported it to the United States authorities.

An American man was arrested in May on accusations that he made small donations to the Qassam campaign and bragged about them on social media.

But the Qassam Brigades learned to cover their tracks. Instead of keeping a wallet with a Bitcoin exchange, which can track information about customers and send it to the authorities, the terrorist group set up wallets fully under its control.

The Qassam site also started providing a new Bitcoin address to each potential donor, a practice that is essentially impossible with traditional financial accounts. The Qassam Brigades appear to have borrowed the method from a media site connected to the Islamic State, which has been generating endless numbers of new Bitcoin addresses to collect money for nearly two years.

The Qassam Brigades did not reply to several requests for comment.

“The terrorists are learning how to send and receive digital currency in a smarter way,” said Itsik Levy, the chief executive of Whitestream, the Israeli intelligence firm tracking Bitcoin transactions. “Why would terrorists not take advantage of this? It is great for them.”

Mr. Levy said the sums being sent were likely to be small, but were getting harder to track.

The Treasury Department, under Mr. Mnuchin, has been promoting international rules that would require cryptocurrency exchanges to do a full identity check on anyone sending digital tokens out of a wallet.

This could make it easier to spot certain illegal transactions. But terrorists and other criminals who use cryptocurrency are already picking up methods that would make it easier to circumvent the new rules, in part by using cryptocurrencies that provide even more privacy than Bitcoin.

Juan Zarate, who was the deputy national security adviser for combating terrorism under President George W. Bush, said this was far from the biggest illegal use of cryptocurrencies but one that needed to be watched.

“I think we are still in the experimentation phase for terrorist groups — they are trying to figure out how best to do this,” said Mr. Zarate, now an adviser to Coinbase. “What’s a challenge is that you see them continuing to experiment.”

Follow Nathaniel Popper on Twitter: @nathanielpopper.

Isabel Kershner contributed reporting from Jerusalem.

What do you think this "news" would do to affect bitcoin price? Or increase adoption, by Streisand effect? Smiley

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August 20, 2019, 12:46:59 AM
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It could help the adoption process, and although they used bitcoin for illegal things, we cannot deny that bitcoin will grow for that. Their organization has huge money so they can buy bitcoin at any price without anyone knows. But unfortunately, they used it for funding their activity to make chaos and panic in public. I just hope that in the future, there is much other good organization will using bitcoin too. So bitcoin is not just for illegal activity, but bitcoin also use for legal activity. That will make people think that bitcoin can be used for two types depends on the people itself.

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"require cryptocurrency exchanges to do a full identity check on anyone sending digital tokens out of a wallet"? This would violate the principle of decentralization
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August 20, 2019, 01:45:51 AM
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Just another baseless news story to pump FUD into the Bitcoin market. The largest and most powerful terrorist organization of all time, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant never got interested in Bitcoin because they found it too complex to use. Most of their funding came in the form of fiat currency, worth billions of USD per year. There is no evidence to prove that any other terrorist organization, including the Al Qaeda, Al Shabab or the Al Nusra Front have ever used Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency.

There are two incidents which could remotely link Bitcoin with the ISIS. First, a woman from New York named Zoobia Shahnaz was found guilty of sending funds worth $150,000 to the ISIS. These funds were sent with fiat cash, but about 40% of that was received after Zoobia sold her Bitcoins. In another case, authorities have suspected the easter day bombing perpetrators of receiving some of their funds in BTC. But in both the cases, there is no direct connection.
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August 20, 2019, 01:51:16 AM
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Well, I read the NY times article, and I can't help but feel like the article is extremely useless and was only written by a "trusted" mainstream news site to cause more FUD relating to BTC.

Sure, BTC is used to do illegal activities and do horrible things, but look at fiat currencies. If cash was not invented until now, there is no way it would have been allowed on the streets, it is way too risky for governments and is perfect for crime.

"require cryptocurrency exchanges to do a full identity check on anyone sending digital tokens out of a wallet"? This would violate the principle of decentralization
It's already happening with most big crypto exchanges, and regulations are likely going to take over in the next couple of years. The only thing we have left are the DEX's that haven't fallen left, and I have a feel a lot of them are going to get seized in future years.

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August 20, 2019, 03:01:21 AM
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This report maybe true or not but i think the issue of terrorism funding was already neutralized thru regulation long time ago that is why the individual that engages in crypto exchanges are now strictly monitored thru KYC and some measures to prevent money laundering activities.
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This is no news, it has been reported in the past already, so I don't know what's the reason behind this article as this time. The only reason I can think of is to create another FUD because bitcoin is having another mini bull run.

Some example:

2018 - https://www.forbes.com/sites/nikitamalik/2018/08/31/how-criminals-and-terrorists-use-cryptocurrency-and-how-to-stop-it/#55d2cbf93990

2018 - https://www.coindesk.com/crypto-use-is-a-fringe-activity-among-terrorists-says-think-tank

2017 - https://www.coindesk.com/u-s-think-tank-finds-rising-bitcoin-price-linked-terrorist-interest

2017 - https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/fears-over-bitcoin-use-in-terror-financing

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August 20, 2019, 04:59:59 AM
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Only terrorism? Usually to make something very unpopular the news stories include other horrible things like human trafficking, underage porn, and all the other things to turn your nose at. This will of course lead to further reasons to have strong KYC laws like the ones currently being encouraged for every exchange. If governments are regulating and not banning that's overall a good thing.
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August 20, 2019, 05:25:23 AM
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FUD. But if terrorists believe it's useful for them, then what can you do? They also find fiat useful, everyone is OK with it. Cool

OP, plus can you make just a summary of the article?

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August 20, 2019, 06:42:02 AM
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lol, where is NYT article about when US invented terrorists in the region mainly Al Qaeda and ISIS back in the days of their war with Russia and CIA was literary funding these terrorists using the good old US dollar? and they still do fund them through USD because they benefit from the terror they are causing even if this demon they created is biting everyone in the ass.

What do you think this "news" would do to affect bitcoin price? Or increase adoption, by Streisand effect? Smiley
nothing. it is not the first bullshit the media publishes against bitcoin and it won't be the last.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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August 20, 2019, 07:23:57 AM
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My question to the author of the article is,

Was fiat never involved in terrorism financing? Cryptos came into picture just 10 years ago and started gaining popularity and momentum sjnce 2017. How was terrorism being financed prior to that??

Every new technology comes with pros and cons. But that doesn't mean that we need ban it. There are ways to deal with risks and that's the route we have to take. For this reason only, I support the guidelines given by FATF in G20 summit.

People can scream to support anonymity but that's not going to solve the problem. Proper implementation of KYC and AML acts can reduce such illicit activities and save commoners like us!

To OP's question, such news can neither impact nor increase the adoption rate of bitcoin. It's just a news with a very limited reach and effect!

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August 20, 2019, 09:11:43 AM
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lol, where is NYT article about when US invented terrorists in the region mainly Al Qaeda and ISIS back in the days of their war with Russia and CIA was literary funding these terrorists using the good old US dollar? and they still do fund them through USD because they benefit from the terror they are causing even if this demon they created is biting everyone in the ass.

What do you think this "news" would do to affect bitcoin price? Or increase adoption, by Streisand effect? Smiley
nothing. it is not the first bullshit the media publishes against bitcoin and it won't be the last.

they can write and create more mass media scare but no one can stop the continuous usage of BTC or other crypto esp for those who are legitimately using it. they are only using the ignorance of most ordinary people when it comes to cryptocurrencies. and they are instilling negative notion to them
however, for crypto users like us, we just ignore such bs articles. we know the real nature of crypto. and crypto life moves on...

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You know, terrorist can use anything to fund their activities. We have seen people smuggling diamonds in their rectum to sell on the black market to fund these terrorists. So trying to stop them from using Bitcoin would be like stopping everyone from entering a country with Gold and diamonds in their possession.  Roll Eyes

The terrorists are also using the Internet to spread the word about their activities and also to recruit people for their war. Are you going to shutdown the Internet, because these terrorists are using it for their activities? <Every technology is used for both good and bad things>  Tongue

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August 20, 2019, 09:26:37 AM
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Ok then, NY Times


  • terrorist organisations have a long history
  • we know from this history that there are alot of spies in mid-level leadership roles in terrorist organisations


so it's pretty likely that at least some of this is all being performed by spy agencies anyway (your tax dollars at work, lol)

if you believe the spy agencies' stories about this issue, it's because they're "fighting terrorism from the inside". can't make an omlette without breaking a few eggs, huh guys?

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August 20, 2019, 10:21:54 AM
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Totally old hat news.

Been covered to death by less traditional media who support the terrorist label of Hamas, and yet, even with ALL that coverage, Hamas actually hasn't gotten much funding to its Bitcoin wallets. In the four months after they launched this donation campaign, Elliptic traced only 0.6 BTC or so. I sincerely doubt much has changed in the few months since that calculation.

0.6 BTC. What a scary figure.

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Which is worse, people who write such idiotic articles or ones who post link to them?

This is not about anything new, but about recycled news which are for some strange reason repeated from time to time. Since this is US newspaper we should not be surprised by their obsession with terrorism and the fight against terror.

There are currently no more serious terrorist organizations in the world, and there will be none until there is a need for them. And when something like that happens, it's certainly not going to be funded with Bitcoin, but with the good old US dollar.

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August 20, 2019, 02:20:47 PM
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This report maybe true or not but i think the issue of terrorism funding was already neutralized thru regulation long time ago that is why the individual that engages in crypto exchanges are now strictly monitored thru KYC and some measures to prevent money laundering activities.
Terrorism funding was never done with purely, or even majority BTC transactions. Money laundering and terrorism are still usually funded with fiat currencies to this date.

Only terrorism? Usually to make something very unpopular the news stories include other horrible things like human trafficking, underage porn, and all the other things to turn your nose at. This will of course lead to further reasons to have strong KYC laws like the ones currently being encouraged for every exchange. If governments are regulating and not banning that's overall a good thing.
What are you trying to say? That the article should have mentioned BTC's involvement with human trafficking and underage porn? The article is made purely to create FUD before the next bull run, and it's tried to link 2 very different things together, whilst ignoring the importance of fiat currencies, which are predominantly used.

This fake news isn't a good reason for new KYC laws, it's fake news being manipulated, and I believe you've been fooled.

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How long have Terrorism been in existence, what has been their mode of funding - fiat i am sure, and that does paint a negative view on fiat, but now that terrorist are beginning to use btc,  the media would always want to twist it around and try to paint a negative view on btc, they are always looking for a way to say something bad, like it is btc's fault more people are accepting it.

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August 20, 2019, 07:16:11 PM
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What a headline! Popper is at it again! Tongue

It shouldn't surprise anyone that militant and terrorist groups are trying to raise funds with Bitcoin. They've already been doing it for years in dribs and drabs. At least they're apparently getting smarter -- no longer storing funds in one address, or at Coinbase.

"require cryptocurrency exchanges to do a full identity check on anyone sending digital tokens out of a wallet"? This would violate the principle of decentralization

Exchanges aren't decentralized. Governments can target centralized entities with regulations and law enforcement. Bitcoin network unaffected.

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Bitcoin has been slower to take off among terrorists in part because of its technical sophistication, terrorism experts said. Terrorist groups have also had methods of using the traditional financial system without needing Bitcoin.

Technically sophisticated? Why I think building improvised explosive devices is much more harder to understand than how to send a bitcoin transaction. This second sentence talks about the USD-based banking system, ban the dollar.

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