Akoldi_ibk
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I have seen this happening to projects on many occasions and it does not always end well. In most cases, the team are forced to alter their roadmap just to pleas the investors and the nagging community. Even before the end of IEO/ICO, with little capital raised, a lot of questions will keep popping up as regard exchange listing; for instance, "when exchange?" "when listing?" "when listing on second exchange?" without giving the team time to develop their products. All these so that these investors can cash out as soon as possible and move on to next available project.
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boltz
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October 03, 2019, 10:28:03 PM |
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Its their fault to invest in something in the early stage and then don't have the patience to hold and wait until profits come.If they are big investors and there are no returns what so ever then the project has a problem and probably won't deliver the expected profits. All of this caused ICO's,IEO's , STO's to facing a decline of investors and nowadays 70-85% of them won't even gather the soft cap in order to start the project.
Personally I don't like to put my money into new projects because the bull run is not so far away so why risk hold a coin 3years from now to get nice profit when you already have good projects with working tech and a history behind them who could bring you big profits in 1.5 years. Investors are not fools, they are just sick of ICO's and dead bounce projects. Maybe some of you can learn from this and you will stop investing into low quality projects or , keep playing the lottery maybe you'll find the lucky one.
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mickey_miner
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October 03, 2019, 10:29:41 PM |
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It usually surprise me when I see investors complaining about a good project that didn't increase or providing returns immediately it got listed on the exchange and they term it scam or say different things like rekted. But the truth is, are these investors investing in the project because they believe in it or are they just in it for the immediate profit and move on? Because if you are investing in a project because you believe in it then you should be willing to HODL the tokens and wait for the team to gradually deliver the project and meet its necessary roadmap before you judge it and not condemn it on its first listing.
That's the problem. All people want to quickly sell tokens and get their profits, so everyone demands that the project appears on the exchange as soon as possible.
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CuriousGeorge
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October 03, 2019, 10:43:35 PM |
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It usually surprise me when I see investors complaining about a good project that didn't increase or providing returns immediately it got listed on the exchange and they term it scam or say different things like rekted. But the truth is, are these investors investing in the project because they believe in it or are they just in it for the immediate profit and move on? Because if you are investing in a project because you believe in it then you should be willing to HODL the tokens and wait for the team to gradually deliver the project and meet its necessary roadmap before you judge it and not condemn it on its first listing.
That's the problem. All people want to quickly sell tokens and get their profits, so everyone demands that the project appears on the exchange as soon as possible. You guys must not blame the investors but the team must adapt with the current market while so many short term investors in the market. This is a must with a few million dollars of money at least to provide a good exchange site is enough rather than put that coin to the shitscam exchange site. if that coin was showing a good performance at first listing and investors will keep to hold it.
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October 04, 2019, 02:03:00 PM |
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This is because people do not invest based on the project but rather their greed. Same with bounty hunters. They see the price per token and think they will be rich. It is not what the token is worth only after a few months will you get the tokens true value and by then these kinds of people will have sold which is very silly since they could end up shooting themselves in the foot. Rather look at the current price and if you want out then bail out but only if the loss is minimum, remember you invested for a reason so stay and hold your cards be patient. Poker face.
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spydee1522
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October 04, 2019, 11:30:51 PM |
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Its sometimes good to be impatient when money is involved but investors getting impatient and being quick in judging projects is far way beyond limit since most of these investors are not ready to learn to ascertain whether the project they are investing in calls for either short or long term investment plan, they just run into any project sake of early bird bonus and later when things are not going as expected, they begin to judge and say ill comments about these projects.
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October 05, 2019, 04:25:02 AM |
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How to be impatient investor without have good news when coin listing or not, an investor not quick judge of project because they have waiting from pre sale until sale ended and dev is not have ideas and planning when their coin listing on exchange market, what about you as investor but you have waiting about one year for listing coin.
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Tomcolor
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October 05, 2019, 05:26:09 AM |
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There is two type of investors always here explain short time and long time, do you think short time investor want profitable of quickly and they do not want agree waiting and holding. But long time investor want more time waiting for making profitable.
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matchi2011
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October 05, 2019, 05:31:35 AM |
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Its sometimes good to be impatient when money is involved but investors getting impatient and being quick in judging projects is far way beyond limit since most of these investors are not ready to learn to ascertain whether the project they are investing in calls for either short or long term investment plan, they just run into any project sake of early bird bonus and later when things are not going as expected, they begin to judge and say ill comments about these projects.
Most have the same intentions regarding to investing with projects that they've did not fully supporting, they just wanted to have that so called bonus and dumped the coin after reaching the exchange. There's no plans just to take the chance and grab opportunities once they've seen some value, there's no longer a real supporters but most are just aiming for quick benefits. The project being judge not because of usage but because of value after reaching the exchange.
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karanggatak
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October 05, 2019, 06:06:08 AM |
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It usually surprise me when I see investors complaining about a good project that didn't increase or providing returns immediately it got listed on the exchange and they term it scam or say different things like rekted. But the truth is, are these investors investing in the project because they believe in it or are they just in it for the immediate profit and move on? Because if you are investing in a project because you believe in it then you should be willing to HODL the tokens and wait for the team to gradually deliver the project and meet its necessary roadmap before you judge it and not condemn it on its first listing.
Theres are two type of investors long term and short term those investors who complain in a project that not increase is surely short term investor that want to earn profit in a short term. A true investors are willing to hold for long term even the price dump so hard because they believe in a project no matter what happen just like bitcoin its take 8years to get their all time high. but it doesnt mean you must hold all of your coin until 8 years. there are many type of investor like what you said before. and sometime i use all method depend on how good they are or how i think to not believe that they can be good in a future. and mostly i keep it until some month or until it can be sold. investor complain cause they are tricked, and have many bad experience.
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Inkdatar
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October 05, 2019, 06:38:42 AM |
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People invest money to make a profit, so it is not surprising that some investors are unhappy with the development of the project or the first exchange on which the token appeared. In addition, there are many scammers at the moment, and there are always reasons for concern and danger.
Usually others main goal of some investors is to earn quick profit, but they did not think clearly that a projects need time for development. Easy for them to judge projects indeed but let’s take a note some doesn’t want to lose money of what they invested for. There are good projects and we cannot hold it too long in our wallet that we cannot enjoy the profit that we must have. So many scam literally, however some investors judge easily the project due to other project ended up losing value and they learned a lesson from it.
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d3nz
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October 05, 2019, 06:47:51 AM |
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There is a lot of reason they are judging the project as a scam if they don't make any update and announcement on what's going on. I would say that I have joined a lot of projects and some are doing exit-scam after they gain a lot of money from investors.
It is really hard to find a good nowadays and we will just depend on the progress from what they are doing for us investors believe.
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October 05, 2019, 06:54:04 AM |
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Not all investors that are found with such but most of them are just with the project because they presume that, the project may be successful on the long run. Most investors 80% are just those that invest on projects without carrying out thorough research into the project they intend to invest. Impatience is one major problem we have among investors, it should be discourage.
Personally, i'm that type that can judge a project from the very first time I set to invest on it. My actions are from my previous scams projects that almost caused me my savings. Now, I take out some reasonable time to investigate a project that am interested to invest. For those projects I have invested in so far, are good projects and, am waiting for them to succeed.
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October 05, 2019, 07:06:06 AM |
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It usually surprise me when I see investors complaining about a good project that didn't increase or providing returns immediately it got listed on the exchange and they term it scam or say different things like rekted. But the truth is, are these investors investing in the project because they believe in it or are they just in it for the immediate profit and move on? Because if you are investing in a project because you believe in it then you should be willing to HODL the tokens and wait for the team to gradually deliver the project and meet its necessary roadmap before you judge it and not condemn it on its first listing.
The sad truth is that investors are after the money. Most don't care about ideas, at least not when it comes whether or not they can actually improve the world in some way. Their interest ends at 'will this make me a lot of money or not?' Granted, there are lots of bad projects that may look good at first, but that doesn't change much
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October 05, 2019, 07:07:30 AM |
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People invest money to make a profit, so it is not surprising that some investors are unhappy with the development of the project or the first exchange on which the token appeared. In addition, there are many scammers at the moment, and there are always reasons for concern and danger.
Usually others main goal of some investors is to earn quick profit, but they did not think clearly that a projects need time for development. Easy for them to judge projects indeed but let’s take a note some doesn’t want to lose money of what they invested for. There are good projects and we cannot hold it too long in our wallet that we cannot enjoy the profit that we must have. So many scam literally, however some investors judge easily the project due to other project ended up losing value and they learned a lesson from it. Tell me then, how at an early stage of development to understand whether this is a good project or not, will the price of this token increase in the future or not Just look at the products they run I see from that side, if their products are many users then I believe their tokens will go up or partner with well-known companies but that also takes time but I'm sure their products are smooth so the future will be better.
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Lantind
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October 05, 2019, 07:16:42 AM |
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There is two type of investors always here explain short time and long time, do you think short time investor want profitable of quickly and they do not want agree waiting and holding. But long time investor want more time waiting for making profitable.
Of course there are differences between the two investors, but what we must understand is investing in the short term, surely the benefits will not be large and the risk is also small, if the investor makes an investment in the long run, the potential for profits will be large, but the risk of loss is also likely big, so this is what is always feared by many investors, and they must always understand about the risks in investing.
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Sithara007
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October 05, 2019, 07:34:44 AM |
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It usually surprise me when I see investors complaining about a good project that didn't increase or providing returns immediately it got listed on the exchange and they term it scam or say different things like rekted. But the truth is, are these investors investing in the project because they believe in it or are they just in it for the immediate profit and move on? Because if you are investing in a project because you believe in it then you should be willing to HODL the tokens and wait for the team to gradually deliver the project and meet its necessary roadmap before you judge it and not condemn it on its first listing.
The opposite argument can be true as well. Rather than blaming the investors, I think you should first ask some questions to the ICO team and the promoters. Why do they always go for the listing even before the initial phase of development is complete? The most common excuse is that they need the funds for the development. But in my opinion, if someone wants to create the project, then he should be ready to invest his own savings, at least for the first phase of the development work. Most of the promoters don't want to do that and would like to transfer 100% of the burden to the investors. And the second question is why they always refrain from using the escrow to store their funds. If they use a trusted escrow, then it can give a lot of confidence to the investors, as they know that these guys are not going to run away after taking all the money.
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joshua123
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October 05, 2019, 07:47:54 AM |
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The problem here is that 10% of those who said they will developed the project isn't really developing the project. Are you familiar with Github? If they really developing and improving it, they can upload development in their github source. Most people checked there too see if devs are really working for the project or not. I can see that only few projects are true to themselves so I cannot blame these people judging maybe they are really frustrated or already know the tactics of the project.
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October 05, 2019, 08:17:54 AM |
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Crypto is very shady, you will get paid from those projects you least expected and those projects you think are the best will perform worst, i expected too much from projects like dipchain, x-block, Noia, Songin and till this day i never receive any rewards from them, instead projects like localcoin, blockbuster, carry protocol are the ones that paid of which i don't expect any from them
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October 05, 2019, 08:22:50 AM |
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All of the investors' thoughts on investing in the ico project can give them a big profit, but they don't want to know if the risks they have to face because not all ico projects can be satisfied, many new investors are not careful by saving their money in new projects so they say it's a scam or failure that can lose their money, because every action we take is not necessarily good for others
And why should this be any different? Investor by definition wants projects that give profit. And this is the sole reason I always look for projects, in crypto anyway, that has supporters and fans, and users. Not so much investors as those are easier to find (money is no object for a lot of people) but when the going gets tough they stream out fast. Maybe all crypto investors are speculators.
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