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August 22, 2019, 01:25:58 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
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August 22, 2019, 01:35:11 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.
For me, it will become scam until you can't withdraw your funds or something bad happened in your account.

First, they offer that kind of bonuses for their advertisement or their own goods because a lot of new people will deposit and play on their gambling site, but, some of there tricks are/is;
You can't withdraw the bonus you received, and there will be a minimum amount you can withdraw. See? the bonus is can only use when you play with it.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
The use of their KYC for sure is because, for some regulations on every country, they just want to know their customer are from the countries that gambling/gambling using cryptocurrencies are allowed. And not all gambling websites that are requiring KYC are SAFE, there's a lot of scam websites.
Much better if you do research first, or wait for some people that have positive feedbacks on those newly launched gambling websites, don't fall on those huge bonuses they offer.

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August 22, 2019, 01:44:21 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

bonuses in general aren't designed to benefit the players most of the times
IDK how you can say that when you are a member of this forum , the gambling section alone have tons of good sites with good reputation and no KYC

if you want anything specific just mention what you are looking for
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August 22, 2019, 01:49:10 AM
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IDK how you can say that when you are a member of this forum , the gambling section alone have tons of good sites with good reputation and no KYC


I agree. I have tested many gambling sites here and none of them required KYC.


Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

There are some scams doing that, but most of them are so obvious (like using other site logo, or they give you a high bonus to test and you win lots of money but can't withdrawal until you deposit a huge amount, etc).

Just stick to the most trusted gambling sites that have a good community support here on this forum, and you are good!

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August 22, 2019, 02:00:50 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

I guess you think first deposit seems like scam because it has high wagering requirement, but you cant consider it as scam because you are not forced to take the bonus. It is just an offer that you can take or leave it if you dont like with all the terms behind the bonus. There are also many sites that does not require KYC, so if you are a type of gambler who do not like KYC then do not even play at any sites ask for KYC.

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August 22, 2019, 03:23:19 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
You can say that the gambling site is a scam if there is someone will prove that it is a scam site. Bonuses aren't enough to say that it is a scam, in fact, the most gambling site nowadays are offering such prize for newcomers and to look attractive to the people. However, we should be careful also and spend more time to dig deeper about a certain site to clarify any scamming alarm before doing the deposit.  
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August 22, 2019, 03:32:17 AM
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To be safe with the future endeavors with gambling sites, can we know the website you are talking about?

For bonuses, I do think it's for promotional purposes and why not right? It's one of the things you could use to attract new customers to your site. Imagine having a bonus, and some players would deposit large amounts. There is always a catch though like you need to bet around the same amount of your deposited or something. I forgot. I tried it in FortuneJack but lost my deposit lol.

I don't get why people try gambling casinos that ask for KYC. There are a lot of reputable sites that are good for gambling occasionally. I hope you get to work the legitimate sites that would be worth trying.

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August 22, 2019, 03:47:29 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.



It is because the first deposit bonus is indeed hard to be withdrawable since the requirement will be so tough. But it doesn't mean the site that offer such bonus is a scam.



And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?


About the KYC stuffs, there are many gambling sites that don't require kyc and they are trustworthy.

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August 22, 2019, 03:54:03 AM
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IDK how you can say that when you are a member of this forum , the gambling section alone have tons of good sites with good reputation and no KYC


I agree. I have tested many gambling sites here and none of them required KYC.


I second this, none of the sites I use regularly requires KYC. Nevertheless, requiring KYC would be a good sign in my opinion, its a sign of regulation of the casino (they have to be able to show who uses their site). Regulated casinos have very strict requirements regarding safe funds, money management etc. Chances are very low that such a casino exit scams or wont give you your money back.

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August 22, 2019, 04:23:40 AM
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IDK how you can say that when you are a member of this forum , the gambling section alone have tons of good sites with good reputation and no KYC


I agree. I have tested many gambling sites here and none of them required KYC.


I second this, none of the sites I use regularly requires KYC. Nevertheless, requiring KYC would be a good sign in my opinion, its a sign of regulation of the casino (they have to be able to show who uses their site). Regulated casinos have very strict requirements regarding safe funds, money management etc. Chances are very low that such a casino exit scams or wont give you your money back.

There are also sites that require a kyc but they arent legit  . they just want to steal peoples kyc so they can sell it for another profit  but like you im also feel confident if a site requires kyc but as long as the site is legit or already established for over a year  .  when it comes to bonuses , we should not really expect on them because a legit casino will only give small bonus lower than your deposits but those who are claiming that they give high bonus higher than your deposit those are shady .
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August 22, 2019, 05:05:46 AM
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You are a long time member of the forum, if you will just do some research, you will easily find a good site to trust.
All the announcement can be seen in the gambling section and you can also read feed back as well, it only needs a little of your time to know because if you are a gambler, you will surely find ways to ensure you will not be scammed.

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August 22, 2019, 05:34:25 AM
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I don't think so. If the gambling site is an old and recommended site, then I don't think that it scam because they are proven to be the good gambling site. But if that site is a new gambling site, then we need to be careful because we don't know if they are good or not. Sometimes, the new gambling website uses a big bonus to attract gamblers but then the member required to deposit some amount before they can get the bonus. We don't want to do that, because the free bonus is a bonus which we can get without having something.

We have so many recommended gambling website which we don't have to do KYC, and that website is not fishy. Perhaps, you need to find by yourself.

As long as you can found recommended gambling website in here, you don't have to worry because the website has already proven to be the good gambling site.
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August 22, 2019, 05:44:55 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling sites giving deposits to attract players into their website so when a site is giving bonus it doesn't mean they were scammers.

Gambling site requires KYC due to the laws of their jurisdiction so no need to feel fishy for KYC but its not needed to give KYC since we have lot of no KYC gambling sites available for now.

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August 22, 2019, 05:46:47 AM
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We could stop their shitty activities here if you drop the link of their site so that they will know what gambling platform you are talking about.

Having a great amount of bonus on any gambling site that did not build enough reputation is a way to lure people and might fall into a trap.
There are a lot of gambling operators here that run their business for how many years in service without having KYC implementation until now they are keep growing because they are already trusted by users. I may advise if you pick a good and reliable gambling site just visit here in the gambling section. All gambling platform that having ads here are already filtered by the community review.

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August 22, 2019, 05:52:35 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Nowadays?Gambling sites(at least most of them) were fishy and scamming in the past.Most of them are fishy and scamming people right now.Nothing changed.The KYC policies don't change the fact that the online casino can still scam you.The bonuses are just a marketing hook.
If you don't trust any gambling site,just never deposit big amounts of crypto.
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August 22, 2019, 05:58:12 AM
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About KYC i think if you want to avoid it then currently plenty of gambling sites available and can be played without KYC and regarding first deposit bonus i think we already discuss it with plenty that there was particular requirements behind it so check the terms carefully and lately the wagering requirements for bonus deposit is very high to unlock it and that's why from now on i do not interested anymore for those bonus because it's difficult to get the money and for me if i want to gamble then deposit and play as normal player

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August 22, 2019, 06:10:07 AM
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This is not the case most of the time,nowadays gambling sites in order to attract new players usually offer this kind of bonus.The bonus has some difficult conditions to be met in order to withdraw like gamble 500x times the amount of the bonus before you can withdraw.Lastly always play in a trusted casino and read reviews and do not rely only on bonuses.

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August 22, 2019, 06:57:00 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Knowing a safe and secured gambling sites goes beyond kyc and bonus and of a truth we know gambling sites that show us here through used and longevity. Sites like betvest, bistler, bustadice, premidice, and stake.com are some of the sites that have been with us and has been reliable. If you want to gamble in a secure environment, you should used any of the above sites as there are fair and reliable enough.
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It's a reality that times have changed and you can't trust much but I can give you a suggestion, scam or not, when it comes to gambling, in the long run, you always lose.  
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August 22, 2019, 07:18:43 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

If the bonus does not make sense given the gambling site, we should be careful.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Indeed there are some gambling sites that require KYC, but you must remember, many people who do not like KYC in playing gambling. So from that many people prefer to play gambling games on sites that do not require members to do KYC.
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You should know if you want to gamble, be safe when it comes to betting in a gambling site as they could take away your money if you are careless.
There's a lot of gambling sites in the space, you should gamble to the sites with good reputation, first thing you have to do is search the name in google, there should be a lot of information that will come up if the site is reputable and has been operating for quite some time.

Second, try to search in the forum for their announcement, there you can read some feedback, and if you have some doubts, go to the scam accusations board, and search for the name of the site.


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August 22, 2019, 09:14:57 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Knowing a safe and secured gambling sites goes beyond kyc and bonus and of a truth we know gambling sites that show us here through used and longevity. Sites like betvest, bistler, bustadice, premidice, and stake.com are some of the sites that have been with us and has been reliable. If you want to gamble in a secure environment, you should used any of the above sites as there are fair and reliable enough.
The reputation speak for themselves as gamblers personal experiences will bring weight choosing gambling sites to play your money and have a good confidence, but it's not close for trying also those new sites which been introduce have some time to check and review every information that you can get to learn more about this sites and make a use of it.
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August 22, 2019, 10:10:42 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

There are actually a lot of trusted websites that you can choose from why are you actually wasting your time looking for some sites that you don't like or trust at first? It actually doesn't not make sense in my opinion.

Even the trusted websites can have huge issues how much more if you are only considering new ones with less volume and users? So basically it is all about your choices
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August 22, 2019, 10:25:03 AM
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The reputation speak for themselves as gamblers personal experiences will bring weight choosing gambling sites to play your money and have a good confidence, but it's not close for trying also those new sites which been introduce have some time to check and review every information that you can get to learn more about this sites and make a use of it.
^ Good suggestion, the reputation is the answer of OP's question not because they are having bonuses. Good thing we have a forum here that we will know the feedback of others, and we don't easily trust newly appeared gambling site. Not all gambling sites are following the KYC implementation because they know that it is not good for the gamblers and the investors as well. Nevertheless, there are few gambling platforms here that you could trust. Look at my sigs and you will know.
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August 22, 2019, 10:34:46 AM
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Why do we need to find another gambling sites to play while there are a lot of gambling sites out there that is tested and being trusted by a lot of gamblers all around the world? I know that there are a lot of tempting gamlbing sites out there but I think it is better if you will just stick to one site you are used to play with, trusted by a lot of gamblers and the one you are comfortable with, hackers can are inevitable but as long as you know that site is not a scam, it is better to stay there.

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August 22, 2019, 10:49:36 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Seems you can't understand when and why people call scam to website which offers bonuses: that usually happens when wagering requirement makes it almost impossible to claim your bonus, that's all.
Gambling websites are using KYC when it's really necessary to get rid of money laundering and using casino as a mixer. And who says that trustworthy website which doesn't require KYC smells fishy too?
When you decide to play on website, check scam accusation threads here, why was they opened, how were they solved and etc.

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August 22, 2019, 10:59:18 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

It depends on any individual's past experiences and definitely vary from person to person! But deposit bonuses comes with some rules and regulations attached with it. In most cases, these bonuses are not directly withdrawable. I have seen a lot of players fail to read those rules and then yells when their withdrawal request gets rejected!

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And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Licensed gambling sites may require KYC data of customers to remain compliant with their local regulation. Unregulated and unlicensed gambling websites usually do not require such data. Even though exceptions are there for both cases, it is better to avoid unlicensed gambling websites even if there is no KYC requirement. That's a general preference of experienced gamblers.

Gambling world is usually full of scams so people are generally more cautious before they invest in any website. Any behavior that is not common to this field, easily raises red flag and people try to avoid them! That's general perception!

It's always better to read reviews from the internet before you put your hard earned money into any casinos. That may help in win some trust back!

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August 22, 2019, 11:04:40 AM
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Gambling sites would do everything just to attract gamblers, but once they break their promise they will loss their reputation and you will know if they are scamming people if you will put some time to research before gambling.

Honestly, I am not too aggressive by a deposit bonus or whatsoever as normally they have a high roll over requirement, and every time there is a new site that pops up, I don't usually mind them as I'm loyal to the betting sites I am using now, for me, reputation matters more than the bonuses they offered.

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August 22, 2019, 11:05:30 AM
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Don't make a big deal out of bonuses. They are basically used to entice potential gamblers. A lot of gambling sites have their own version of bonuses. If you are not familiar enough with gambling, do not just take the bait that they are dangling in front of you in the form of bonuses. And if you are easily attracted by bonuses and then complain later on of scam, the joke's on you. Bonuses come with a lot of conditions that would always end up benefiting the site more than the gamblers. And especially "if the bunos [sic] is to[sic] much than your initial deposit", you really need to read the terms.

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Those gambling sites without KYC seems fishy because they could ask KYC if your account gets blocked but i've had good experiences with trusted bitcoin gambling sites i've never been forced to do KYC.

For OP you should be more specific on which "promising sites" are you referring to because you seem to doubt gambling sites way too much imo.

There are actually a lot of trusted websites that you can choose from why are you actually wasting your time looking for some sites that you don't like or trust at first? It actually doesn't not make sense in my opinion.
It's probably because of trusted gambling sites that have negative feedbacks on their trust pages few examples are nitrogensports and sportsbet.

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I don't think so some gambling sites I remember offered 100% of your deposit in one of their promotion, they really offer a deposit bonus from time to time, especially on their anniversary, and about KYC, most of the gambling site I'm playing is not asking for KYC, maybe because I am not a high roller of their platform, but I have several withdraws and they never ask for KYC.

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August 22, 2019, 11:25:29 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

My advice to you is to gamble your money in online casinos that are popular and they have a lot of customers playing there.
If you are not aware of the casino, or you have seen at least one negative review, then I recommend you not to make any deposit at this casino. After that, if you deposit money to unknown casinos then you deserve to be scammed.
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August 22, 2019, 11:29:43 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Just fyi, deposit bonus isn't scam. That's the way of a site want to attract people to come and playing on their site. Sure it's sounds too good to be true (ussually it's around 50% -200% from your deposit amount), but ofcourse you need to fullfill the requirement before you can withdraw your money + deposit bonus (e.g wager to xx from your deposit)

My question, do you trust Mintdice?
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August 22, 2019, 12:37:24 PM
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Knowing a safe and secured gambling sites goes beyond kyc and bonus and of a truth we know gambling sites that show us here through used and longevity. Sites like betvest, bistler, bustadice, premidice, and stake.com are some of the sites that have been with us and has been reliable. If you want to gamble in a secure environment, you should used any of the above sites as there are fair and reliable enough.

Well I understand what you mean, old sites do already have a lot of trust here, but the intention of the OP is how do we trust new gambling sites? Usually new sites provide a big deposit bonus. Maybe for me, we can only trust the new gambling sites from member reviews here, there's no way we should try it because it's very risky unless we accept the risk.

There are actually a lot of trusted websites that you can choose from why are you actually wasting your time looking for some sites that you don't like or trust at first? It actually doesn't not make sense in my opinion.

Even the trusted websites can have huge issues how much more if you are only considering new ones with less volume and users? So basically it is all about your choices

Indeed, looking for new gambling sites is very risky, but not a few gamblers here who want a new challenge on gambling sites. As we know that each gambling site has a different system, maybe the OP is the type of person who explores so he researches each gambling site and looks for other best gambling site for future.

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August 22, 2019, 12:54:09 PM
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Gambling section gives clear information on the websites through their announcement thread. This way it is quite easy to find the trusted gambling sites among the number of sites available. There is a statement that sites providing large bonus on initial deposit to be a scam, but these informations have got limitations. This need to be checked and confirmed through the announcement thread.

Apart from this winning against the house is really hard, if we win today tomorrow we're gonna loss. There are users who state the increased loss as a reason stating the gambling website untrusted even though we've got the access to check the provably fair functioning.

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Offers from a real website and scammers can be identified very easily,like when we got an offer of hundreds of bonus for depositing ten dollar then its an obvious scam but giving the small deposit bonus is really a strategy to make more gamblers for them and even old websites have lot of bonus even on daily basis.

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
There's still a lot of trusted gambling sites, I don't know why you are having a hard time finding one, you can Google and check reviews of the most trusted gambling sites, some of them are doing advertising and signature campaign here, they will not ruin their reputation scamming people, while doing bounty campaign.

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August 22, 2019, 01:16:46 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

Just simply ignore those new sites and wait for further positive feedbacks and reviews before throwing money to them. Simple as that.

No need to literally take the bait once you see that the bonus is tempting.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

"MOST"? Like what gambling sites you are pointing here? We might give you a clarification here.

And if ever a KYC will be asked, it's not a mandatory thing but part of the terms that gamblers must comply on it once they end up in specific cases e.g questionable, irregularities, etc.

To summarize all these things, stick with the reputable ones to lessen your worries.

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August 22, 2019, 01:29:49 PM
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Generally stay away from sites that offer high deposit bonuses, you'll end up losing everything if you can't meet the often high rollover requirements.
Just stick to sites like Bitsler of Crypto-Games, they do not ask for KYC and they do run a lot of promotions without rollover requirements.

There's enough choice out there, go over the gambling section here for a bit Wink

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August 22, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
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Bonuses are there to attract people but always be careful because a lot of scam are arising knowing that online gambling is getting more attention.

For me, it's better to stick with gambling site with credibility. The one that is already trusted by many

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August 22, 2019, 02:25:27 PM
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There are new gambling sites that are scamming gamblers by offering very high bonus on your deposit, you should check the credibility of the site first, if there are reports, or better wait for reviews from users if this is a newly created gambling, you should be very careful, it's better to just play on an old gambling site.
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August 22, 2019, 02:43:55 PM
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There are new gambling sites that are scamming gamblers by offering very high bonus on your deposit,
verry high depsit bonus is already a promising word or too good to be true word  . i bet that every gambler will think twice before they deposit any amount , they probably check the site first to see if its legit or fake .

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you should check the credibility of the site first, if there are reports, or better wait for reviews from users if this is a newly created gambling, you should be very careful, it's better to just play on an old gambling site.

reports and some negative reviews do also happened on older site , i mean not all new site should be accused  .  we must still do our own investigations and avoid listening on others because not all feedbacks are genuine .
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August 22, 2019, 03:06:16 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

You don't need to trust any of the sites, you just have to post it here if you some experience being violated. If you have lost some Bitcoin or other crypto in your betting account then it should be reported immediately. Bonuses are one way to attract players especially for new sites launched, on't expect too much as it is a strategy, but you cannot blame them because they want you to play in them as long as it doesn't violate any rules then they should be fine.
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There are new gambling sites that are scamming gamblers by offering very high bonus on your deposit,
verry high depsit bonus is already a promising word or too good to be true word  . i bet that every gambler will think twice before they deposit any amount , they probably check the site first to see if its legit or fake .

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you should check the credibility of the site first, if there are reports, or better wait for reviews from users if this is a newly created gambling, you should be very careful, it's better to just play on an old gambling site.

reports and some negative reviews do also happened on older site , i mean not all new site should be accused  .  we must still do our own investigations and avoid listening on others because not all feedbacks are genuine .

Bonus deposits are not too good to be true, they require high rollovers, you will have to wager your deposit amount many times in order to withdraw, so its not really that good

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August 22, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

KYC is not mandatory in all the countries, and gambling sites have taken advantage of this and set up websites in jurisdictions where the regulations are more relaxed. And regarding the initial deposit bonus, many of the sites have such promotional offers. But there are riders attached with this, such as a requirement to gamble at least 10x of the deposit amount.
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Seems like you are just new to gambling world.Bonuses are scammy? No they arent but these are just like traps for possible players on the site.
Yes, they do offer something 100-120% deposit bonus or even more depending on the site but majority do have similar set-ups. The thing here is that these bonuses
had wager requirements before you can able to cash out and the most basic scenario that do happen that most gamblers wont able to make it out yet they do just lost up their bonus and their entire capital.

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August 22, 2019, 05:42:21 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

KYC is not mandatory in all the countries, and gambling sites have taken advantage of this and set up websites in jurisdictions where the regulations are more relaxed. And regarding the initial deposit bonus, many of the sites have such promotional offers. But there are riders attached with this, such as a requirement to gamble at least 10x of the deposit amount.
This looks real offer but scam sites will give more deposit bonus and only requires very less amount then only people will get convinced to deposit money into their site.But having KYC and legit offfers for the players is really good for that gambling site to make more income for themselves.
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August 22, 2019, 06:15:20 PM
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Basically most of the gambling platforms I have been used to; are due to their positive feedback from gamblers who have at sometimes gamble with the platform. Personally, most of my favorite gambling platforms are those platforms that have a long history of trust.

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Some of them are true to their words while some are not.
I think your paramount concern should shift from the bonus you will gain to the credibility (if users are actually being paid).
Moreover, most of these site use the bonus as a way to attract new players. More like marketing strategy.
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.
Are you only relying on bonuses when playing?because why so problematic about new gambling sites(or even old that suspicious)when there’s are tons of sites that has been here for how many years and already proven their company?maybe sop bothering yourself and just play to those reliable and trusted gambling sites in this forum
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And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
You are keep on mentioning the “Nowadays “thing does this mean newly stablished gambling sites?because of not we already knew those gambling sites here that requires KyC and those who ask nothing for withdrawals









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August 22, 2019, 07:11:11 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
They give like 200% to 300% deposit bonus. Most of them are legit. But they do have some conditions before you will be able to withdraw those coins. You have to wage like 100 times the bonus given to be eligible to withdraw those bonus coins. Its like almost an impossible task but I have seen some people being able to complete those requirements and I have also seen people complaining about not receiving their winnings.
Did you read their terms of service before playing in their casino. Most of them do say that you may be asked for KYC.

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August 22, 2019, 08:05:47 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
You don’t have to trust all of them or even those random gambling sites that popping those days because many of them are scammers(I have no proof since they are masters of disguise)
But we have already existing Sites that known and trusted here so why need to look for others?because of bonuses?
Being a gambler we must know the risk ,so why add another when we can play in legits?like what I’m wearing Windice or that one you wear MintDice,there’re safer place to gamble don’t risk in somewhere you are not comfortable

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August 22, 2019, 09:16:46 PM
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You are a long time member of the forum, if you will just do some research, you will easily find a good site to trust.
All the announcement can be seen in the gambling section and you can also read feed back as well, it only needs a little of your time to know because if you are a gambler, you will surely find ways to ensure you will not be scammed.

If we're suspecting some signs of getting into scam traps, better scrutinized some serious ways to make yourself safe from that situations. We cannot actually see how they're methods works, but as signs develops eventually the realization takes place that we're getting used to be a victim. Much better if we won't deal on them for huge betting amounts just to be sure not to lose your valuable funds.
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August 22, 2019, 11:36:27 PM
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Basically most of the gambling platforms I have been used to; are due to their positive feedback from gamblers who have at sometimes gamble with the platform. Personally, most of my favorite gambling platforms are those platforms that have a long history of trust.

This is what I'm saying. I know that there are a lot of other platforms out there that can attract you to their site  but that doesn't mean you should take all of your balance to your usual site and send it all to that new site, we should know how to tell these sites whether they are a scam or a legitimate.

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August 22, 2019, 11:46:03 PM
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Well, I will not agree on that gambling site now mostly having KCY nowadays. There are gambling sites out there that did not have KYC, just only Gmail verification and that is fine and at least not involve your personal data. But in the case of chronic fraud gambling site, yes they are spreading now and looking for a naive people who bite into their trap and fool to them. They started with the bonus commission and giving high amount which lures people to grab the trap. Indeed, my suggestion always does research first.









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August 22, 2019, 11:46:50 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.
It is their way to attract players and high rollers to play in their site and deposit, however, for new sites, you are always at risk of sites going to run away with your money after you made a deposit. I don't deposit and play in new sites unless the site is run by a known operator.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Its their way to protect their site from being used to launder money. They (gambling site) don't want to be the next target of the government to be audited and closed.
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August 23, 2019, 12:20:30 AM
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initial bonuses is a market strategy and the purpose of it is to attract gamblers to play on their site but these initial bonuses most of the time doesn't benefit
the gambler but as long as the gambling site allow you to withdraw your funds after getting the required total bet wage of that initial bonus it is not a scam.
but the idea of initial bonus is like a scam since you either lose all of your funds or meet the total wage bet requirement which rarely happens to most gamblers.

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August 23, 2019, 12:37:53 AM
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Basically most of the gambling platforms I have been used to; are due to their positive feedback from gamblers who have at sometimes gamble with the platform. Personally, most of my favorite gambling platforms are those platforms that have a long history of trust.

That is what we need to do if we want to feel safe from the scammers because we don't know where the scammers are, and who they are. We don't want to get scam from any of gambling website, so we need to be careful. Fortunately, we have so many recommended gambling website which has tons of members, and that site doesn't have any problem so far. You can read one by one of the website by the members here so you can get a list of legit gambling sites.
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August 23, 2019, 01:26:01 AM
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I am wearing Windice signature but they are not requiring some KYC. Also, it is easy to know whether the gambling site is scam or not. Use google, there are so many feedbacks of players there that we can read about. Bonuses seems attractive but you can further test the site if you deposit small amount of money and you reached the minimum payout and you can be able to withdraw it. Then it is not scam site. Bonuses is to attract more players, we can't rely that as a scam. You can choose gambling sites that are altradt established.
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August 23, 2019, 02:15:07 AM
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Generally stay away from sites that offer high deposit bonuses, you'll end up losing everything if you can't meet the often high rollover requirements.
Just stick to sites like Bitsler of Crypto-Games, they do not ask for KYC and they do run a lot of promotions without rollover requirements.

There's enough choice out there, go over the gambling section here for a bit Wink
I think you can withdrawonly the real deposit you made, or have to wait for the rollover to be fulfilled? if that's true, then it's better stayaway. because it means that the site forces you to play to be able to withdraw. I once found that site like that on anonibet, when the deposit bonus was 10%. Luckily I like sports betting, so I can finish rollover quickly.
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August 23, 2019, 08:43:53 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I haven't tried any gambling sites that require KYC in order to be able to withdraw your funds there; this can ruin the privacy of users. However on the other hand, they might be regulated by the government which is rare case scenario as gambling with crypto isn't supported by the government yet. As of now, IMO it's better to stick with gambling sites that don't require KYC because it's difficult to put a trust a gambling site with our personal information specially if they aren't too reputable.
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August 23, 2019, 09:07:14 AM
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Differentiating scam crypto gambling sites among the largest ones is not too hard so you no need to worry about the legitimacy of the exchange are gambling sites as they were asking for KYC you can just do simple Google search to know about there history and you can decide that they are legitimate or just new here to scam some people.

when you don't want to do KYC then avoid such gambling sites even if they are legitimate but sooner or later more gambling sites will ask for KYC I guess due to the government restrictions.
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August 23, 2019, 09:12:04 AM
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Differentiating scam crypto gambling sites among the largest ones is not too hard so you no need to worry about the legitimacy of the exchange are gambling sites as they were asking for KYC you can just do simple Google search to know about there history and you can decide that they are legitimate or just new here to scam some people.

when you don't want to do KYC then avoid such gambling sites even if they are legitimate but sooner or later more gambling sites will ask for KYC I guess due to the government restrictions.

When there are a lot of gambling sites that allows us to gamble even without KYC, it would be stupid if we still do the KYC.
KYC is only required on fiat gambling sites as they are license and regulated, and KYC is a requirement.
I don't know about the legality status of every crypto gambling sites here but most of us does not look on that aspect, instead we look on their reputation.

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August 23, 2019, 09:14:45 AM
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There are many reputed gambling sites that are not requiring the players to abide in kyc so why would you choose a gambling site with too good to be true offer?

Dont bite those sites who offer high bonuses because it might be scam.

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August 23, 2019, 09:48:07 AM
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There are many reputed gambling sites that are not requiring the players to abide in kyc so why would you choose a gambling site with too good to be true offer?

Dont bite those sites who offer high bonuses because it might be scam.
And aside from being scam it's also possible that those bonuses will be tough to earned as wagering requirements are very hard to achieved, staying with well known gambling sites still be the first priority in order to have a safe trip while enjoying your stay inside the house, you have to make it more deeper before taking any steps further and pick your gamehouse to play and enjoy.
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August 23, 2019, 10:58:32 AM
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Gambling sites giving deposits to attract players into their website so when a site is giving bonus it doesn't mean they were scammers.

Gambling site requires KYC due to the laws of their jurisdiction so no need to feel fishy for KYC but its not needed to give KYC since we have lot of no KYC gambling sites available for now.
It is not the bonus they give that is the problems bro but the rate of the bonus. There are some that you will hear and deep down, you will know that it sound too good to be true. There is no genuine site that would give out such. What then is their profit if bonus to players alone is that high?

And on KYC, to my own believe, I assume any site that demands for KYC is scam. I don’t care the intention for the requirement but our crypto entity supports anonymity and asking for KYC is like intruding into a players privacy. I advise anyone who see a site that’s demanding for KYC to flee. It’s not real and it’s definitely a scam site. There are so many reputable sites that do not ask for KYC.
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August 23, 2019, 11:33:49 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Good question.
But the bonus part always sounds like scam until you try withdrawing the bonus... you will then probably understand the idea behind it. I guess gambling website use the bonus to attract new gamblers just as other non-gambling websites offer bonuses and with somewhat hidden conditions.
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August 23, 2019, 12:01:27 PM
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Differentiating scam crypto gambling sites among the largest ones is not too hard so you no need to worry about the legitimacy of the exchange are gambling sites as they were asking for KYC you can just do simple Google search to know about there history and you can decide that they are legitimate or just new here to scam some people.

when you don't want to do KYC then avoid such gambling sites even if they are legitimate but sooner or later more gambling sites will ask for KYC I guess due to the government restrictions.

When there are a lot of gambling sites that allows us to gamble even without KYC, it would be stupid if we still do the KYC.
KYC is only required on fiat gambling sites as they are license and regulated, and KYC is a requirement.
I don't know about the legality status of every crypto gambling sites here but most of us does not look on that aspect, instead we look on their reputation.
For example we can see lot of exchanges were forced by their respective governments to implement KYC for doing trading and in gambling industry also might the same thing happen sooner or later but it will.
Possibly, but there's a bigger number of gambling sites compared to exchanges and I think these gambling sites if they can find a way to not impose KYC under their platform they would do it since majority of the successful gambling sites in crypto does not require KYC, that would make them out of the competition as gamblers would prefer to gamble without them giving an info about themselves.

In some countries, gambling is illegal, so they can't bypass that restriction if all would be requiring a KYC.

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August 23, 2019, 12:01:41 PM
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If we feel doubts into newly existed gambling sites, then we will just ignore them and stick into the old existing sites. They'll never be asking KYC to the gamblers cause they are giving trust also to them.
We can't deny how this bonuses really attracting to gamblers but then, we should be careful for this especially when it looks so fishy and unrealistic returns that they offered to us.  It might be a way to scam us( gamblers).

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August 23, 2019, 02:13:43 PM
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They have some gambling sites who are giving bonus with the first deposit of their players and only small amount of dollars and that is ñegit and if you hear something is they giving big bonus it is something not good so don't try to make any deposit to avoid losing your capital in gambling. More gambling sites are legit and they did not require KYC personally I did not play who implementing KYC.
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Basically most of the gambling platforms I have been used to; are due to their positive feedback from gamblers who have at sometimes gamble with the platform. Personally, most of my favorite gambling platforms are those platforms that have a long history of trust.
In short word we just need to Use Google to check the credibility of site before entering but if happens that this was a newly opened  gambling site?then the more chances of being scammed are there specially those promising big bonuses I’m afraid just don’t try unless there’s person close to you that had already tried the site but take the precautionary measures just put small amount first for you safety and never fall from promises besides check every singe details of that said gambling site to find the possible scam or not









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August 23, 2019, 07:14:48 PM
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They have some gambling sites who are giving bonus with the first deposit of their players and only small amount of dollars and that is ñegit and if you hear something is they giving big bonus it is something not good so don't try to make any deposit to avoid losing your capital in gambling. More gambling sites are legit and they did not require KYC personally I did not play who implementing KYC.
KYC is only happening now and not really practiced before. There are a lot of gambling sites that are still not requiring KYC but still considered as a legit one. And there are really newly launched gambling sites today that are even offering big bonuses which is something that we should doubt about. I think with all this newly sites coming out, it would be better to study first the said gambling sites and know its background before you decide gambling to it.
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They have some gambling sites who are giving bonus with the first deposit of their players and only small amount of dollars and that is ñegit and if you hear something is they giving big bonus it is something not good so don't try to make any deposit to avoid losing your capital in gambling. More gambling sites are legit and they did not require KYC personally I did not play who implementing KYC.
KYC is only happening now and not really practiced before. There are a lot of gambling sites that are still not requiring KYC but still considered as a legit one. And there are really newly launched gambling sites today that are even offering big bonuses which is something that we should doubt about. I think with all this newly sites coming out, it would be better to study first the said gambling sites and know its background before you decide gambling to it.
DYOR should always be initially practiced anytime we do see new services or sites out there and making such further verification if that one is legit enough or not.
If everything do looks shady then better to opt out rather than to risk it up and lost up money.KYC isnt really that mandatory nowadays unless if your are dealing with
fiat based gambling site then you would need some verification but for crypto gambling sites they dont require most of the time unless if theres something shady happening with your account.

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August 23, 2019, 07:43:47 PM
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New site coming into the gambling stream are seeking to lure members with that strategy of bonus on first deposit but don't get it wrong the deposit are most times to be used on gambling on that site it's very much not withdrawable
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August 23, 2019, 10:50:43 PM
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There are many reputed gambling sites that are not requiring the players to abide in kyc so why would you choose a gambling site with too good to be true offer?

Dont bite those sites who offer high bonuses because it might be scam.
Exactly!

Most of these gambling sites who promise a good offer turns out to be a scam.
We should choose the sites that we have to visit and don't forget to ask someone who has knowledge about the site.
Or we ourselves could conduct our own research for a reputable gamblings site.

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See my topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166235.0 , may it will clarify your mind.
None of them requires KYC
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

It depends on the reputation of the site, I just got n invitation from one trusted gambling site that offers 50% bonus on my deposit, that's their birthday offer to their customers and the gambling site is still operating and very well known as a trusted site.

Accept this kind of offer from trusted gambling sites, there are a lot of new gambling sites that offer deposit bonus with codes after you made your deposit, you cannot withdraw your winnings and they go offline, it's a scam and that's their scheme.

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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
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You can't control anything here like gambling site can really turn scam or hack so better to not use that then we have many trusted here

Then i think if they new only here in crypto then don't give your 100% trust to that another thing nowadays we really have many scammer because they can run easy money by that so better if their gambling site provide KYC
The best way not to be scam by fake gambling sites is to focus on those sites we have and trust has been developed on them here. I have been gambling with stake.com and bustadice for more than five months now and I have no any issues with withdrawing my earnings. The unverified gambling sites or those new one are to risky to invest through them and it is good to stay away from them.
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You can't control anything here like gambling site can really turn scam or hack so better to not use that then we have many trusted here

Then i think if they new only here in crypto then don't give your 100% trust to that another thing nowadays we really have many scammer because they can run easy money by that so better if their gambling site provide KYC
There are reputable sites already listed here and all you need to do is click on the search button and find those reputable ones. Of course, it's hard to trust a new site since they don't have any reputation yet and most of them are not what you expected. Even though if they do have KYC it is not the basis to recognize if they were reputable and trustworthy.

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You can't control anything here like gambling site can really turn scam or hack so better to not use that then we have many trusted here

Then i think if they new only here in crypto then don't give your 100% trust to that another thing nowadays we really have many scammer because they can run easy money by that so better if their gambling site provide KYC
There are reputable sites already listed here and all you need to do is click on the search button and find those reputable ones. Of course, it's hard to trust a new site since they don't have any reputation yet and most of them are not what you expected. Even though if they do have KYC it is not the basis to recognize if they were reputable and trustworthy.
People do simply just neglect this very basic principle on doing research into things where finding the reputable ones is easy as pie and doesn't require too much effort or time because in exchange this will help us for ourselves to avoid those fraud gambling sites.Kyc isn't really that needed and same as others as mentioned where this do only require when theres something wrong with your account.

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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
In this crypto community when we are just dealing virtually and not physically,I think negative thinking is really normal ,and our instincts dictates this as lots of scammers are victimizing cryptonians since many years ago
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I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
That’s most are said,why need to lurk around new gambling sites when you can just play safe in reputable and older sites here who’s no big issue at all(but ofcourse I don’t want to close everything for new Gambling sites,only if they prove their credibility and trustworthiness

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?


Well site offer bonus much than from initial deposit is doesn't not the reason site are scamming or bogus, in my own opinion based on my experience asite  offer huge bonus is to give the player to chance learn the site how it to use comfortable using the the free bonus and that way they fast people to encourage to use their site.
Regarding to kyc requirements I think some site need to follow the government because of the regulations want to implement under aml law.
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Well site offer bonus much than from initial deposit is doesn't not the reason site are scamming or bogus, in my own opinion based on my experience asite  offer huge bonus is to give the player to chance learn the site how it to use comfortable using the the free bonus and that way they fast people to encourage to use their site.
Regarding to kyc requirements I think some site need to follow the government because of the regulations want to implement under aml law.
Yes not all, but the majority of some cases having huge bonuses than the initial deposit will lead to that bogus activity. Maybe on newly launched gambling site that not have much reputation and not well known. So, risky to deposit if you don't research first and you have been attracting only with the bonuses had. No matter KYC was there as long as that gambling site has operated a long time and has build reputation that deserves to be trusted.

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You can't control anything here like gambling site can really turn scam or hack so better to not use that then we have many trusted here

Then i think if they new only here in crypto then don't give your 100% trust to that another thing nowadays we really have many scammer because they can run easy money by that so better if their gambling site provide KYC

That is why we need to stick to the reputable gambling site for playing gambling because we don't want to be the next target of a scam. We can try to play in a new gambling site, but we need to be careful, especially if we want to try to deposit money to them. Don't use too big money because that will be too risky, and we don't know if they will give their promise to give the best thing for the members.

Having KYC doesn't guarantee us to get a legit gambling website because we know that there are so many reputable gambling sites don't use KYC and they can serve the best services to their members.
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August 25, 2019, 04:21:07 AM
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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
Yes and still adding more businesses about gambling who's trying to be competitive and make a good value their house, trusting a gambling house where you will place our bankroll not knowing the possibilities of being hacked, you do need to think about how good the owners will execute and how they handle issues if there's any that may occur while staying and playing inside the site.
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August 25, 2019, 04:40:40 AM
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Just chiming in with my own 2 cents on the matter: I've been visiting various casinos since 2014, and a couple which I will absolutely vouch for are FortuneJack and Cloudbet; however if you are looking for a place that is trustworthy and has incredibly small minimums for deposit and withdrawal, I recommend Betchain and also Bitcoinpenguin. Never had any problems with those 2 sites. Just don't activate the bonuses because they have particularly hefty rollover requirements of 50x.

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There are a few ways by which we can find out if a site is fake or not. Googling the site would itself reveal so much information that will tell you if the site is fake or not.
Also you can look for 'whois lookup' and find out if the site is registered correctly or not. Besides that you can also find out if the site have been making regular payouts or not.
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August 25, 2019, 07:27:29 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Personally I don't believe them who are offering double/triple bonus on deposit. And I never bother to make deposite where offering double triple. Because we have seen previously that they made so many drama after make deposite and eventually scammed people's.

Yes, few gambling websites doesn't required KYC during registration even during deposit, but unfortunately they ask for KYC documents. This is just clear scam. That's why we need verify the reputation of gambling sites.

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You are a long time member of the forum, if you will just do some research, you will easily find a good site to trust.
All the announcement can be seen in the gambling section and you can also read feed back as well, it only needs a little of your time to know because if you are a gambler, you will surely find ways to ensure you will not be scammed.
Exactly what I think. Even newbies now know how to identify genuine sites. There are a lot of them on the forum and it’s always good to check for them but that bonus is always the bone of contention. Most players know very well that familiar sites are safer to play on but the greed for more is what keeps dragging them to new unknown site and once they lose, they are back to the site to complain and then they generalize all casino sites to be fraudulent not admitting their wrong choices or let me say how greed led them astray.

I also know of very good trustworthy sites that do not ask for KYC on this forum, so that shouldn’t even be a challenge at all.

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August 25, 2019, 01:04:29 PM
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Calling the attention of OP,kindly visit your thread as you were being active everyday but never bother to even visit and answer some points out here lol 😂

There are a few ways by which we can find out if a site is fake or not. Googling the site would itself reveal so much information that will tell you if the site is fake or not.
Also you can look for 'whois lookup' and find out if the site is registered correctly or not. Besides that you can also find out if the site have been making regular payouts or not.
These information are quite sufficient to conclude if a site is safe to deposit your money in or not.
OP is pointing about new sites in which basically still no record in google for scamming or whatever negative things because this will take victims first to make a complaint and report before they reflect in google for searching bad records









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It will just become a scam when you can't withdraw your initial deposit and  your profit after you win (if you won Cheesy).
Regarding the KYC, there are some gambling sites that doesn't require any KYC (primarily the crypto gambling websites). Although there are some websites who requires KYC in some points, I'd rather not to register on that site because I don't want to share my personal information to people whom I don't know.

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It will just become a scam when you can't withdraw your initial deposit and  your profit after you win (if you won Cheesy).
Regarding the KYC, there are some gambling sites that doesn't require any KYC (primarily the crypto gambling websites). Although there are some websites who requires KYC in some points, I'd rather not to register on that site because I don't want to share my personal information to people whom I don't know.
Always be vigilant when there's an offer that is too good to be true then don't deposit your money on it yet unless you have seen some legit review already. Then you can start to deposit some minimal amount just to try the site first, and also there are casinos who do require KYC if the minimum withdrawal amount exceeded to the limits and so on.

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August 25, 2019, 04:57:26 PM
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Well site offer bonus much than from initial deposit is doesn't not the reason site are scamming or bogus, in my own opinion based on my experience asite  offer huge bonus is to give the player to chance learn the site how it to use comfortable using the the free bonus and that way they fast people to encourage to use their site.
Regarding to kyc requirements I think some site need to follow the government because of the regulations want to implement under aml law.
You have a point bro. Bonus is not the only thing that makes sites to scam it’s just the most common strategy by scam sites. There are sites that do not give high bonus and yet still scam and as well there are some that gives bonuses and yet genuine, it’s just about knowing how to decide and the first and most important way which I always emphasize on is looking out for familiar sites

I have been a victim of scam and it hurts. Mehn I thought that site was for real, they bonus wasn’t really so much, but I won and at the end I was to fill KYC, later the site was no longer existing. It was like a dream but I discovered it was a new site. I felt really bad but I have learnt my lessons
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.

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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Might work with small amounts but even old casinos often has problems with huge amount withdrawal so reputation matters more than the age of the casino.

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

Some of those bonuses are called freebies which you are actually not entitled to if it eventually didn't come. They are meant to lure people into registration, this is not only in gambling site; it is just a business strategy, so don't keep basing your affiliation to a site on bonuses , they are not the real thing.

Well, in my opinion, a site that does not keep to promise , is likely not be straight forward.
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

Some of those bonuses are called freebies which you are actually not entitled to if it eventually didn't come. They are meant to lure people into registration, this is not only in gambling site; it is just a business strategy, so don't keep basing your affiliation to a site on bonuses , they are not the real thing.

Well, in my opinion, a site that does not keep to promise , is likely not be straight forward.
They are indeed luring thing for people to play on a site.Its good to hear out that you would receive 100% deposit bonus.

Imagine that but behind there are terms that should be complied before you can able to withdraw.This is why I'm not minding too much
of these bonuses no matter how big it is because in the end you would still lose before you can able to get out.

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There are many dodgy online casinos out there, that's for sure. The best way to avoid them is by reading customer reviews on independent review sites and online gambling forums. Some casinos have an unusual number of negative reviews. They're the ones that you want to avoid playing at.

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I don't think so. If the gambling site is an old and recommended site, then I don't think that it scam because they are proven to be the good gambling site. But if that site is a new gambling site, then we need to be careful because we don't know if they are good or not. Sometimes, the new gambling website uses a big bonus to attract gamblers but then the member required to deposit some amount before they can get the bonus. We don't want to do that, because the free bonus is a bonus which we can get without having something.

We have so many recommended gambling website which we don't have to do KYC, and that website is not fishy. Perhaps, you need to find by yourself.

As long as you can found recommended gambling website in here, you don't have to worry because the website has already proven to be the good gambling site.
I don’t understand the reason why we all have to write off new sites. I understand that most number of people who have been scammed happened on scam site but don’t you think some of these new sites might be giving out high bonuses as a marketing strategy to getting more players? The reason old trusted sites might not be given this out could be because they already have a high base of players and they believe they would always be chosen over newer sites.

In my opinion, we can also try out some new site but to avoid losing, it’s advisable to play with small money so that it can easily be forgotten if lost.
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August 26, 2019, 02:13:23 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
that's the trick to getting investors customers, all of them must have their own ways to get fresh funds to support the project that they want to develop. For KYC, there are indeed many projects that use KYC because for the requirements to be able to join in it, I think the project that uses KYC is a good project.

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August 26, 2019, 02:39:56 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

The reason why they give some bonus to their player is to make many investor/ player that will patron their sites, and it's like a newly open store and merchandise that will give you a massive discount at your first time. It will be a scam if you can't cash out your money  ( you must take note that the bonus is usually not a part of the cash out system). Smiley

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August 26, 2019, 02:59:02 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
if no bonus is promised at the beginning of the deposit then no one will be interested to enter it, maybe that's why the site uses that strategy. if KYC is indeed now a lot of projects or gambling sites using KYC, it is possible for the requirements to join customers because KYC can find out the customer's personal data.

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August 26, 2019, 03:22:37 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I usually not really see bonus from gambling campaign, because usually we still should play that bonus balance to reach certain target before can withdraw it. And i usually end with empty my balance before can reach the target. So i never think about it.
About site that scam or not or maybe KYC or not, usually i only play in gambling site that already famous. Not means not famous is bad, i just want to play safe. Although in game, i can lose all my money i think it is better than jump on scam site that not allow me to withdraw my money.

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August 26, 2019, 05:41:13 PM
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.
That’s for existing Gambling sites in which stays here for atleast years now but not on the new ones Andy I guess that’s the issue of OP though I didn’t saw him response in any of the comments here

Hope he’s not just creating a story to have him posting counts lol 😂
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I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Have tried couple of times way back to deposit small amount but in the end satisfactory I still what we need.so why bother to entertain new one when there are too many legit and trustworthy,just like my Signature  .777coin is one of those together with Bitvest 😂









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August 26, 2019, 06:37:32 PM
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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
Yes. It is not possible to trust these third-party sites with your money. After the huge loss in ICOs last year, people are not more careful about their money. They do not get involved into games that are of dubious nature or in which the prospects of making money in very low. In addition, we have had many cases in which sites would ban a gambler upon withdrawal requests so you are right.
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August 26, 2019, 10:46:49 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I also believed that those gambling sites uses the bonus as a decoy to attract gamblers and in the course of withdrawing profits they placed a very unfavorable and stringent conditions for withdrawal thus gamblers has to be very careful not to fall to all these pranks  else they will equally lose their deposits to those untrustworthy and non reputable gambling sites.

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August 26, 2019, 11:20:02 PM
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Some sites only require KYC for large withdrawals or deposits as well, usually with larger withdrawals in my experience. Best bet you've got is just to read whatever reviews you can find for a casino on this forum and look out for keywords like 'KYC' and 'verification' throughout the posts you do find, and to try to avoid smaller sites if possible, but in the end you could be required to submit KYC at any time.

As for bonuses, I hardly ever use them anymore because of the usually extremely high minimum wager requirements for withdrawal. I'd much rather just gamble on my own money and withdraw whenever I want to instead of once I gamble an amount the site determines.
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August 27, 2019, 01:28:02 AM
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I don't think so. If the gambling site is an old and recommended site, then I don't think that it scam because they are proven to be the good gambling site. But if that site is a new gambling site, then we need to be careful because we don't know if they are good or not. Sometimes, the new gambling website uses a big bonus to attract gamblers but then the member required to deposit some amount before they can get the bonus. We don't want to do that, because the free bonus is a bonus which we can get without having something.

We have so many recommended gambling website which we don't have to do KYC, and that website is not fishy. Perhaps, you need to find by yourself.

As long as you can found recommended gambling website in here, you don't have to worry because the website has already proven to be the good gambling site.
I don’t understand the reason why we all have to write off new sites. I understand that most number of people who have been scammed happened on scam site but don’t you think some of these new sites might be giving out high bonuses as a marketing strategy to getting more players? The reason old trusted sites might not be given this out could be because they already have a high base of players and they believe they would always be chosen over newer sites.

In my opinion, we can also try out some new site but to avoid losing, it’s advisable to play with small money so that it can easily be forgotten if lost.

No, we don't have to write off new sites, but we need to be careful if we want to play at new gambling sites. No one will know what is going to happen with the new sites in the future, and we don't have to spend so much money on that site. The problem is many people are trying to playing gambling at a new gambling site because they think that the site is legit, but after they get the win, they cannot withdraw the money.

The high bonuses are to attract the gamblers to try their site but only a gambling website which serious with their business that will satisfy their customer. The scam gambling site will not give their promises to their customer because they only want to get their money, and then they can run away from them.
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August 27, 2019, 04:55:10 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Before risking your money, it is paramount that you check and evaluate the gambling website. Consider the reviews, its history, the security, and the overall aspect of the website before putting your money.

Nowadays, it is indeed, difficult to look for a gambling website that offers all the aforementioned criteria. Scammers have been lurking these past few days with the intent to gain for themselves and enrich using the expense of others.

Some sites only require KYC for large withdrawals or deposits as well, usually with larger withdrawals in my experience. Best bet you've got is just to read whatever reviews you can find for a casino on this forum and look out for keywords like 'KYC' and 'verification' throughout the posts you do find, and to try to avoid smaller sites if possible, but in the end you could be required to submit KYC at any time.

As for bonuses, I hardly ever use them anymore because of the usually extremely high minimum wager requirements for withdrawal. I'd much rather just gamble on my own money and withdraw whenever I want to instead of once I gamble an amount the site determines.

If a gambling website requires me to add a KYC feature, I would have second doubts on it. The purpose of gambling online is for convenience and anonymity. It totally defeats the purpose while endangering yourself on the internet.

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August 27, 2019, 07:32:52 AM
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You can't control anything here like gambling site can really turn scam or hack so better to not use that then we have many trusted here

Then i think if they new only here in crypto then don't give your 100% trust to that another thing nowadays we really have many scammer because they can run easy money by that so better if their gambling site provide KYC
I wonder why anyone would even want to trust an gambling site in the first place, no gambling site is trustable in my opinion. Even the ones we think have existed for years can suddenly change to become something else, it is very common with them. Gambling site will always crash without a pre notice, so what makes you think they are can be trusted.

I suggest playing with care and know that anything can happen at any time on a gambling site, so withdraw your money when due, play with small amounts you can spare as trial on each site before committing huge amount of money. At least when you play with small money and win, you can be sure it’s real, then try with something bigger and withdraw immediately. Never double bet, and never play with money you cannot spare.
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August 27, 2019, 08:18:58 AM
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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
Yes. It is not possible to trust these third-party sites with your money. After the huge loss in ICOs last year, people are not more careful about their money. They do not get involved into games that are of dubious nature or in which the prospects of making money in very low. In addition, we have had many cases in which sites would ban a gambler upon withdrawal requests so you are right.
Being a gambler we cannot just rely on random sites to invest our money instead we rather roll it to make winning#or loss while playing

There are many dodgy online casinos out there, that's for sure. The best way to avoid them is by reading customer reviews on independent review sites and online gambling forums. Some casinos have an unusual number of negative reviews. They're the ones that you want to avoid playing at.
lol this not counts the newbie gambling sites because for sure there are no reviews to check on.anyway let’s keep safe while choosing one because our money as at stake here and we cannot be lazy to lose by our own stupidity









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August 27, 2019, 09:48:11 AM
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Might work with small amounts but even old casinos often has problems with huge amount withdrawal so reputation matters more than the age of the casino.
Indeed, old age does not guarantee the site is trusted. it is true what he said that feedback is important for you to read so you know the shortcomings and bad side of the site. although there is no perfect gambling site like without problems. but we certainly have to find the safest and most convenient gambling sites, and feedback from many people will certainly be very helpful to know that
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August 27, 2019, 01:11:19 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

The reason why they give some bonus to their player is to make many investor/ player that will patron their sites, and it's like a newly open store and merchandise that will give you a massive discount at your first time. It will be a scam if you can't cash out your money  ( you must take note that the bonus is usually not a part of the cash out system). Smiley
I sometimes find it very difficult to understand what gamblers really want. A site that gives freebies and lots of Bonuses are feared to be scam sites and some that do not are being complained of. This shouldn’t even be a problem as we all know there will always be scam sites and in short it didn’t start from today.

I don’t care the strategies scam sites are using buy one thing I know for sure is that I can never be scammed, not on any new or existing gambling sites. In short I can’t even imagine how a gambler is being scammed, like what made him visit the site in the first place. What happened to playing on very familiar and well know sites. Why would you consider a site that is new hand has the tendency to run away with your money.
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August 27, 2019, 01:33:27 PM
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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.

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August 27, 2019, 01:45:11 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I also believed that those gambling sites uses the bonus as a decoy to attract gamblers and in the course of withdrawing profits they placed a very unfavorable and stringent conditions for withdrawal thus gamblers has to be very careful not to fall to all these pranks  else they will equally lose their deposits to those untrustworthy and non reputable gambling sites.
Which is common practice by those gambling houses who offer big bonuses -- first deposit bonuses, as it surely was accompanied by big wagers to accomplish before you can withdraw in case you participate and deposit your money. You need to be more curious and always careful with
every gambling house you will play and deposit your bankroll. There's a lot of scam websites that will keep haunting those careless gamblers.
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August 27, 2019, 06:17:09 PM
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Might work with small amounts but even old casinos often has problems with huge amount withdrawal so reputation matters more than the age of the casino.
Indeed, old age does not guarantee the site is trusted. it is true what he said that feedback is important for you to read so you know the shortcomings and bad side of the site. although there is no perfect gambling site like without problems. but we certainly have to find the safest and most convenient gambling sites, and feedback from many people will certainly be very helpful to know that

Of course there are also problems with the old sites but the most problems/scams are with the new sites so the older might be safer but as I also said also check what others says about the casino.

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August 27, 2019, 07:00:06 PM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.




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August 27, 2019, 08:04:30 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
I also believed that those gambling sites uses the bonus as a decoy to attract gamblers and in the course of withdrawing profits they placed a very unfavorable and stringent conditions for withdrawal thus gamblers has to be very careful not to fall to all these pranks  else they will equally lose their deposits to those untrustworthy and non reputable gambling sites.
Which is common practice by those gambling houses who offer big bonuses -- first deposit bonuses, as it surely was accompanied by big wagers to accomplish before you can withdraw in case you participate and deposit your money. You need to be more curious and always careful with
every gambling house you will play and deposit your bankroll. There's a lot of scam websites that will keep haunting those careless gamblers.
Why would waste your time to a non-reputable site if you know there are reputable ones that already existed. Besides, it is safer to put your money on a gambling site because you know that it doesn't easily scam their players. Stop risking your bankroll to a new site just because you liked their promotions and bonuses, some of them are just a trap.

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August 27, 2019, 10:24:49 PM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

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August 28, 2019, 12:24:54 AM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

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August 28, 2019, 02:27:47 AM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.
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August 28, 2019, 05:32:01 AM
 #126

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

This is mostly on fiat casinos, but we are here in crypto and the competition here is high and the site that does not require KYC, they normally gain a lot of customers. If I have to choose based on my personal experience, I would choose a casino that does not require much information, just create an account with an email address then we are good to go, honestly, I miss directbet when compering casinos as they have the coolest features so far.

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August 28, 2019, 05:49:40 AM
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Might work with small amounts but even old casinos often has problems with huge amount withdrawal so reputation matters more than the age of the casino.
Indeed, old age does not guarantee the site is trusted. it is true what he said that feedback is important for you to read so you know the shortcomings and bad side of the site. although there is no perfect gambling site like without problems. but we certainly have to find the safest and most convenient gambling sites, and feedback from many people will certainly be very helpful to know that

Of course there are also problems with the old sites but the most problems/scams are with the new sites so the older might be safer but as I also said also check what others says about the casino.

Instead of choosing the new casino websites better start researching about the Old websites because even though they give fewer bonuses. Firstly, our investment will be safe, or else you can raise the question there are many people to answer your questions.
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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.
I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.

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August 28, 2019, 04:05:07 PM
 #129

I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

Obviously no one likes KYC, casinos that ask for KYC only do so because they are forced by the law. That's why most crypto casinos are located in countries where they are not prosecuted by the law.

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August 28, 2019, 05:31:54 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
First deposit bonuses have always come with a lot of strings attached to them but this happens in all the casinos including the fiat casinos, but you need to understand their position as well, if they did not put those conditions then gamblers will abuse their generosity and they will lose money.

I also know that during the last years the prevalence of KYC policies has increased considerably and if you are not comfortable with them and you are not willing to play and trust in casinos not asking for it then the truth is that your only choice is to stop gambling online.

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August 28, 2019, 05:42:23 PM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

Obviously no one likes KYC, casinos that ask for KYC only do so because they are forced by the law. That's why most crypto casinos are located in countries where they are not prosecuted by the law.
So far im aint seeing some crypto based gambling sites that do ask KYC yet this one is only applicable or can be seen by those fiat casinos online but the rest they arent requiring such documentation.When a certain crypto gambling site do ask about some documents then neither this do pertain about some sort of verification or proof out.

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August 28, 2019, 06:06:34 PM
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Giving trust is really be hard when we are always thinking about the negatives side and been affected by what people had said.
I really understand how scams and phishing site spreading around, but we can't just be too much-overacted cause still a lot of reputable gambling sites that could be trusted until today.
Yes. It is not possible to trust these third-party sites with your money. After the huge loss in ICOs last year, people are not more careful about their money. They do not get involved into games that are of dubious nature or in which the prospects of making money in very low. In addition, we have had many cases in which sites would ban a gambler upon withdrawal requests so you are right.
I have always been very careful even before that tragedy that happened last year with the ICO last years. I do not trust anyone or any site especially in this gambling world. Gambling is not a place for trust, it’s a game of uncertainty, trusting yourself sometimes as a player can be difficult because we go against our plans and decisions when gambling how much more trusting a third part. That’s kind of awkward to me.

I had that experience of being banned on a site at withdrawal, I was still new in gambling then and the site in question was new. I didn’t have much idea of how scam sites operate back then and I fell victim like a chicken.
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August 28, 2019, 06:29:45 PM
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For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.
Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to do KYC even if you won a big prize. Since this is cryptocurrency, it promotes being anonymous online. What is the essence of being anonymous when you need to comply KYC? But, the thing in KYC is that this can be also served as the security of the gambling site and the person who won the jackpot. I just don't know what the future holds for the information you sent to them.




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August 28, 2019, 06:30:59 PM
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Best way is to start reading user experiences before playing at a gambling site.

I normally don't play at brand new sites and if I do I deposit a small amount to find out how they work.
Might work with small amounts but even old casinos often has problems with huge amount withdrawal so reputation matters more than the age of the casino.
Indeed, old age does not guarantee the site is trusted. it is true what he said that feedback is important for you to read so you know the shortcomings and bad side of the site. although there is no perfect gambling site like without problems. but we certainly have to find the safest and most convenient gambling sites, and feedback from many people will certainly be very helpful to know that

I do not agree fully to this as the old sites are the ones which can be trusted. A site who is made to scam people , will not last long before people stop using it and it will be disappeared. If a gambling site is running successfully from many years, it means that people trust this site and therefore people still playing there. For the new sites, you need to follow the feedback and reviews to know if it is good and safe to play there.
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August 28, 2019, 06:43:57 PM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.
As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.

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August 29, 2019, 12:23:51 AM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize.

If that is in the rules they can do that, that's why it's important that we read the TOS  before signing up in a gambling sites, most newbies just sign up without reading and when time comes they are required the KYC when it's in the rules, they will complain.

For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.

Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.

Obviously no one likes KYC, casinos that ask for KYC only do so because they are forced by the law. That's why most crypto casinos are located in countries where they are not prosecuted by the law.

Yes, most gamblers don't like KYC because they have to send their personal identification to the gambling website. They are afraid that the website owner will sell their data to another party which needs those data. We heard that in the black market, the data could be sold with easy and without any regulation or law.

But there is a gambling website which applies KYC for the members because they want to know who is the customer and where the money comes from. The gambling website owner doesn't want to see his gambling website is used for the money laundering.
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August 29, 2019, 12:39:45 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.
and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.
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August 29, 2019, 01:15:38 AM
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well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.
That's just the thing, you need to know the website or the casino you are going into. There are a lot of online casinos that use cryptocurrencies as a currency and they have been around for a long time, so when you go with those sites, then there would be no problem regarding that.

and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.
It's not going to be an issue if the company or the casino you are submitting the KYC to is trusted. There are a lot of scams that use websites to collect KYC information and sell it to people who are going to buy it. It could be an issue but it's best if you are going to a trusted one.

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August 29, 2019, 02:28:02 AM
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For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.
Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to do KYC even if you won a big prize. Since this is cryptocurrency, it promotes being anonymous online. What is the essence of being anonymous when you need to comply KYC? But, the thing in KYC is that this can be also served as the security of the gambling site and the person who won the jackpot. I just don't know what the future holds for the information you sent to them.
If the gambling house got a licensure from the government then they needed to follow procedures providing kyc especially for high earners, it's about taxes and maintenance costs that they've needed to provide with the government, though it's been always have a case where gamblers doubts this process but there's nothing that they can do if this really being required.
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August 29, 2019, 03:24:28 AM
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For me, I think KYC is not necessary anymore even if you win big amount, if you are a gambler and been using the site regularly and you don't break any rules that triggers them to require you a KYC, then you will be fine. My personal experience tells me that gambling sites does not require KYC, in my many years of gambling, I also won big but I was never required to do a KYC compliance.
Yeah, I don't think it's necessary to do KYC even if you won a big prize. Since this is cryptocurrency, it promotes being anonymous online. What is the essence of being anonymous when you need to comply KYC? But, the thing in KYC is that this can be also served as the security of the gambling site and the person who won the jackpot. I just don't know what the future holds for the information you sent to them.
If the gambling house got a licensure from the government then they needed to follow procedures providing kyc especially for high earners, it's about taxes and maintenance costs that they've needed to provide with the government, though it's been always have a case where gamblers doubts this process but there's nothing that they can do if this really being required.
Not all the gambling sites will have a license since they are not all operating under one jurisdiction, gambling sites who wants to be more profitable will operate in an area that license is not required, this is to serve a big number of gamblers who likes to play without complying with the KYC.

I believe the gamblers understands the risk that any time the gambling site might go dark, but they accepted the risk because they will enjoy the comfort of playing not exposing their real identity to the gambling sites.

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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.
I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You are right  we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site
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August 30, 2019, 06:03:09 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

It depends, I mean sometimes they do it in purpose, having a large amount of bonuses as a kickstart for the new comer or whoever deposits a certain amount of money they want for you to be able to play on their site, and it is called marketing. They are selling their gambling site's name to the public to attract someone's attention and of course to achieve their daily bankroll to keep their site running, but, still make your own research before depositing to a new gambling site, trust only the old ones, just saying.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Not all of them requires KYC, some of them are just requiring this because they just want to know that there are no players using illegal bots on playing in their gambling site. They wanted to monitor their players, though it is not really recommended for me to have this KYC because it doesn't make any sense at all, we are in a virtual world which we use cryptocurrency to became anonymous and yet they are requiring KYC, so I'm against it, therefore I only play on those sites which don't require KYC
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August 30, 2019, 06:59:45 AM
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well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.
That's just the thing, you need to know the website or the casino you are going into. There are a lot of online casinos that use cryptocurrencies as a currency and they have been around for a long time, so when you go with those sites, then there would be no problem regarding that.

and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.
It's not going to be an issue if the company or the casino you are submitting the KYC to is trusted. There are a lot of scams that use websites to collect KYC information and sell it to people who are going to buy it. It could be an issue but it's best if you are going to a trusted one.

Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.
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August 30, 2019, 07:13:47 AM
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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.
I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You are right  we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site
That's not true, the new gambling sites also have certain quality but the service efficiency is too poor, sometimes they are late in the payment process, a lot of complaints, however, they are not scammers, old gambling sites are probably better in this regard but obviously, the credibility of a gambling site is always not high. Even the old gambling sites, they are only reliable in terms of payment and game quality, the fairness is very low, we will only lose when facing them.

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August 30, 2019, 07:31:50 AM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

This is not appropriate. I wouldn't play on a site that won't require a KYC when I win little money and when I'm lucky to win big, then they will require that I do a KYC. No, this shows no trust and being crafty. So if I'm not able to get my KYC done to their difficult standard, that is I forfeit my huge winning.
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Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.
First of all, why would you have any faith with something that is unfamiliar with it, especially when it involves something as sensitive to information as our personal info? What is the scheme you are talking about? Maybe you are talking about using it as a currency to gamble on. It's a good transition from being in a Fiat Currency for gambling to cryptocurrencies. It was made easy. There are a lot of possible people you could talk to, probably the chat on the website itself. 

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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.

This is not appropriate. I wouldn't play on a site that won't require a KYC when I win little money and when I'm lucky to win big, then they will require that I do a KYC. No, this shows no trust and being crafty. So if I'm not able to get my KYC done to their difficult standard, that is I forfeit my huge winning.

Yeah, and there have been several occasions when big time winners get mugged in their homes in the past. The good thing with crypto gambling is that you remain anonymous. I don't see why gambling sites would need your personal information. Probably for security? But you risk more by providing your information that can one day be leaked or accessed by unwanted people. Especially if you own quite a big amount in your account.


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August 30, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
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all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid??  because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us  Wink


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Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.
I honestly do not see any reason for KYC argument on this forum, I have tried visiting some of this sites that are requesting for KYC and I could not find anything that makes them different from other sites not requesting for KYC, do what’s the big deal? If you don’t like to play on a site because of its KYC demand then quietly leave, there are many fishes in the water.

I could recommend some very good and well know sites with great activities not requesting for KYC, as a matter of fact, For me, I don’t even trust sites that ask for KYC, it looks to me like it’s scam. I don’t know how they would expect me to fill my personal vital details on a gambling site.
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now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us  Wink

Well, in choosing a good gambling site I will prefer to choose that having reputation here in the forum and run their gambling business for almost a year. Correct, nowadays there are a lot of gambling platforms emerging here in the forum just like mushrooms but so far, they had the same promising statement which needs proof. If you play on newly launched gambling platform, just deposit a small amount and don't leave on gambling site wallet.









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August 30, 2019, 08:08:38 PM
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.
As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.
This is a great way to have an insight into what kind of site have you clicked on. Reviews are composed of both good and bad and you can clearly have glimpse into how your journey is going to be in the site. Like we had the trust breach in ICO in 2018, you should not really trust the sites too. There are famous site on the internet and have been very professional so better stick to the top one.
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I know for a fact that KYC is done in some gambling sites even those sites are trustworthy when you won a jackpot prize or a big prize. If you do win that you'll do a KYC and I think they will hold on to your prize for days if I can remember it right that's the thing they're doing.
As a gambler, I always check the feedbacks of every gambling platforms before I gamble on the platforms because, many of my.winnings have been stuck in some known gambling platforms without missing world. KYC shouldn't be a yardstick for any gambler to trust a gambling website, they can disappoint you even with the KYC. Before you play in any gambling platforms ensure to research into the platforms before play.
This is a great way to have an insight into what kind of site have you clicked on. Reviews are composed of both good and bad and you can clearly have glimpse into how your journey is going to be in the site. Like we had the trust breach in ICO in 2018, you should not really trust the sites too. There are famous site on the internet and have been very professional so better stick to the top one.
Trust issue comes you know about it so better avoid all bad environment or gambling fake gambling site will effect your profit. Check the history and involve only fair sites. Before adopting and accepting their policies make good Google research after that ask the users about reliability and securitized assurance.
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September 01, 2019, 07:32:30 AM
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Normal casinos already have your information through your credit card and they usually ask about personal info beforehand. Legally, casinos have to ask for KYC compliance. It's not a matter about breaking rules or not, they need to know if the money you are using for gambling is legal.

If that is the case, we can move to the crypto gambling site because we have so many recommended gambling websites which are no need to complete KYC. Many gamblers want to play gambling without doing KYC because they want to enjoy the game without sending their document to the websites. Besides that, they don't think that it is necessary to send the document because they are playing gambling for fun only. But for gamblers who want to make money from gambling, then I don't think they will fine to completing the KYC because many of them want to hide their identity.
I honestly do not see any reason for KYC argument on this forum, I have tried visiting some of this sites that are requesting for KYC and I could not find anything that makes them different from other sites not requesting for KYC, do what’s the big deal? If you don’t like to play on a site because of its KYC demand then quietly leave, there are many fishes in the water.
Absolutely what I’m standing also that there are so many sites that offers no KYC but Leif and trusted already for years now so why need to bother your self playing in the opposite site

But th problem sometimes are other sites that misleads players on who’s not indicating a KYC obligatory until you hit a big win.there are already issues in past abouthis and I don’t know if this was settled already
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I could recommend some very good and well know sites with great activities not requesting for KYC, as a matter of fact, For me, I don’t even trust sites that ask for KYC, it looks to me like it’s scam. I don’t know how they would expect me to fill my personal vital details on a gambling site.
Yups don’t wanna play also to present all my details as privacy is what we need here in crypto,but wmaybe better if you right down the sites who has no KYC program for others to use as reference









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I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You are right  we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site
I think all this reasons put together is why I have chosen to stick with the site is started with longtime ago, even though I now find this site very boring because of the outdated games but I just feel it’s better to be on a safer side. Gamblers are more attracted to new site because of the kind of games they to offer. New sites keep on upgrading and this is something old site do not do maybe because they feel, they already have a good number of clients base.

I genuinely don’t blame gamblers that prefer new sites to long existing sites, aside bonuses, they want something convenient and conducive for gambling.

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September 01, 2019, 09:06:42 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

well, it may appear like scam,but it is like an advertisement strategy, to entice you. it shouldn't be new to any business that has competitors. it is to make you believe they have something worthwhile to deliver. although, some may be scam.you only need to be careful.
and the matter of the KYC.most of them introduce KYC for authentication of clients and it should be to the benefit of the client as it would reduce scam.those who does not introduce KYC also have their way of protecting their clients.it shouldn't be an issue.
Not all gambling sites that offer deposit bonuses will become a scam. unless they have a crazy promotion, Like have a very large deposit bonus. it could be that they became a scam before you could withdraw. and not all gambling sites use KYC. there are many old gambling sites and trusted that do not implement it, and I played on the site
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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.
I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You are right  we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

Don't underestimate new casinos like this, all old sites came from new site as well so don't forget the starting history. Surely older trusted site is a better place to stay but we should not call most new sites are scammers. We should give a chance for new sites to prove that they are reliable place to spend our money. Basically it is not hard to see whether a new site is good or not, worth to try or not, there will be always suspicious thing when a new site tries to scam you.

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September 01, 2019, 10:45:07 PM
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Personally if a gambling site is offering a deposit bonus, I first check what kind of terms they offer for that and if it has a high requirement for me to be able to attain and withdraw, I don't use it and I just let things be. Usually, only newly-erected sites are the ones offering such bonuses to attain a following from a lot of people early on in the game, and those well-established ones have some kind of bonuses every now and then but not as lucrative and crazy as to what these new sites offer.
I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You are right  we should trust old sites more than new one because in New casino most are just scammers but in old one you will see allot of trust able gamblers who are there since long so before trusting make so much research. Having trust worthy site is not easy that’s why be ready to face everything in gambling about your gaming site

Don't underestimate new casinos like this, all old sites came from new site as well so don't forget the starting history. Surely older trusted site is a better place to stay but we should not call most new sites are scammers. We should give a chance for new sites to prove that they are reliable place to spend our money. Basically it is not hard to see whether a new site is good or not, worth to try or not, there will be always suspicious thing when a new site tries to scam you.
Mindset like this are those people who are being commonly scammed by new services either a gambling site or any other investment site which they do already make first and last impressions towards new sites.Yes it isn't really that right to have that mindset yet old sites weve known do really start also from scratch.

This do only matter on how those new sites would prove out theirselves that they are worthy to trust on.You can really easily spot out which one is serious on its early phase.

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September 02, 2019, 02:25:10 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

You mean you don't know if new gambling sites are worth your trust, you can ask people who are already playing there for a review if you have second thought do not deposit big amount of money, some mew sites are offering deposit bonus to encourage, but there are similar gambling sites that use this to scam people.

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It's a reality that times have changed and you can't trust much but I can give you a suggestion, scam or not, when it comes to gambling, in the long run, you always lose.  
I disagree. Majority will always lose in the long run against the house, but the minority do win in the long term and there are many examples out there to demonstrate that which is why many continue to play to join their ranks.


I also do not agree with that. In gambling, of course there are those who win and those who lose. All online and physical gambling players must have often experienced defeat or victory. If you often play gambling, of course you already understand. That is natural in the game.
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all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid??  because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us  Wink
I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.

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September 02, 2019, 01:23:44 PM
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all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid??  because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us  Wink
I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.
There are two condition why people losing trust on a gambling site :

1. They are disappointed

Disappointed cause you need to do KYC (huge amount withdrawal/huge winning usually several sites require it) , disappointed cause you are feeling blue ... having too much money lost and start blaming the site is unfair whilst it's just another bad day another bad luck for you.

2. The site have 0 reputation

Despite it's a new site, people tend to fall to a non sense promo ... they are insist to play there to get their chance and forgot that the site itself is newly launched and possibly run a 100% scam service.

I would simply choose the one with high reputation as simply as like that , the kyc thing required only onncertain conditions,  I still have no problem with a well known gambling sites around here ... they never ask me to do kyc though.

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Yes, if we don't have any faith in the casino website then it is not a good idea to submit our documents. Now, most of the websites are accepted cryptocurrency as a betting scheme which it might be easy for the gambler to spend their currency in gambling. So before gambling, you need to research yourself from the experienced persons reviews about the casino website.
First of all, why would you have any faith with something that is unfamiliar with it, especially when it involves something as sensitive to information as our personal info? What is the scheme you are talking about? Maybe you are talking about using it as a currency to gamble on. It's a good transition from being in a Fiat Currency for gambling to cryptocurrencies. It was made easy. There are a lot of possible people you could talk to, probably the chat on the website itself. 
KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.
Agree with you this is really good to share your KYC it makes the gambling site safer and more people will be agree to trust. Just check the old history of that gambling site and trust only when you become satisfied about the security of the investors. Better have faith in gambling people and wait for them.
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I have seen a lot of gamblers that immediately register and start gambling on new sites without even going through the terms like you do and this is foolishness displayed to me. It’s possible that some scam sites are actually not scam as tagged but the ignorance level of players made their money blow into the air.

I am of the opinion that all gamblers should learn to read before betting, read information and read more on detecting the tricks of scam sites. There are still genuine sites out here and they are numerous, definitely more than the scam sites, so I see no reason why gamblers should still fall victim of gambling sites. I might be talking out of ignorance since I have not been scammed, but I believe It’s possible to prevent it.
You have a great point there and it kind of  takes me back to the story I was read somewhere not quiet long, can’t remember if it was on this forum but I would share, the player didn’t pay attention to the TOC and it was clearly written that there would be a place to fill KYC at withdrawal for a specific amount of money, he didn’t read and he played and won something really big, unfortunately the guy was below gambling age and at that moment, there was a need to fill KYC to claim the money.

I cannot clearly  remember how it was later sorted out because I didn’t follow much on the post till the end but like you mentioned correctly, this is real ignorance of the highest order.

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September 04, 2019, 06:31:53 PM
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all users may have the same thoughts as you, personally I still can't trust 100% of all gambling sites... but I think like this, "if they cheat users then they are very stupid".. why so stupid??  because the turnover of money in gambling is very large, they are very stupid if cheating me as small user (small fish) because they will lose another user (big fish).

now we have been very helped because this forum is very helpful in dealing with fraudsters, just include proof of fraud in the thread "scam accusations" then the red flag will be sticky there.. good luck for all of us  Wink


That is only true for big and established casinos, they are making so much money that for them is simply not worthy to try to scam their users since in such a business their reputation is everything, but when it comes to a small casino they may decide to give an appearance that they are a legitimate business until a whale is confident enough to deposit money at their casino and when that happens they may decide to exit scam their users, create another casino and repeat this process again.

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September 04, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
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Although its unfortunate for those who still get scam as I was scammed onces when I newly joined the journey. I have learnt to avoid bogus bonuses from any platform that tend to offer such to it gamblers as many have lead to scammed after that. What had kept me till now is my ability to check the sites reputation alongside positive feedbacks from gamblers before looking at their existence of the platform because new platforms are  more likely to scam in my opinion.

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There are two condition why people losing trust on a gambling site :

1. They are disappointed

Disappointed cause you need to do KYC (huge amount withdrawal/huge winning usually several sites require it) , disappointed cause you are feeling blue ... having too much money lost and start blaming the site is unfair whilst it's just another bad day another bad luck for you.
Not only gambling sites are requiring KYC for their users but also well-known crypto exchanges are doing the same. As an example you can withdraw 100 BTC perday on bittrex if you successfully complete your KYC on their system. I think by requiring KYC they are trying to provide best services to their verified traders account where unverified accounts can withdraw only 1 BTC perday. Same going on for those gambling sites who are taking extra security for their users but its true that in some cases couple of websites are not trusted enough to keep users private information securely.  


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September 05, 2019, 11:17:31 AM
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I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.
Thank you for this beautiful post but I must let you know that despite all the efforts that have been put together by the site and honorable members of this forum, there are still people falling into scam activities on a daily bases, we definitely won’t blame this on the gambling sites anymore because players themselves aren’t helping matters, most of them are so greedy that even when they see fire and because there is money inside, they wouldn’t mind going into it to risk bringing out the money.

Gamblers that get duped are aware that playing on such sites is on 50/50 chance and they are not scared of loosing their money.
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September 05, 2019, 04:17:56 PM
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KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.
KYC is not the best way to know a reputable site. If you are interested in knowing a very good site, then you should look out  for its years of existence and what people are saying about the site. There are a lot of reputable sites not demanding for KYC and if at all, KYC is what would make us know the true site, then be sure many people would be out of gambling soon because we cannot completely depend on a gambling site with our personal information. What happens when the site system crashes? What if the site gets hacked and the information becomes exposed to third parties? That would definitely be a bad game right?

I am a casino gambler and in online crypto gambling, we are against exposing our personal details and the advantage we have over other forms of gambling is anonymity, so fuck KYC and all it represents.
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September 05, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
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Although its unfortunate for those who still get scam as I was scammed onces when I newly joined the journey. I have learnt to avoid bogus bonuses from any platform that tend to offer such to it gamblers as many have lead to scammed after that. What had kept me till now is my ability to check the sites reputation alongside positive feedbacks from gamblers before looking at their existence of the platform because new platforms are  more likely to scam in my opinion.
There possibility of what you said to happens is very minimal so, I wouldn't be in support of this that, new gambling platforms have more Chance's of getten user scam. I have been promoting many new gambling platforms and among all, I have never seen who have comeforth on this platform to raise scam accusation against any and they are all new to the industry.

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Not only gambling sites are requiring KYC for their users but also well-known crypto exchanges are doing the same. As an example you can withdraw 100 BTC perday on bittrex if you successfully complete your KYC on their system. I think by requiring KYC they are trying to provide best services to their verified traders account where unverified accounts can withdraw only 1 BTC perday. Same going on for those gambling sites who are taking extra security for their users but its true that in some cases couple of websites are not trusted enough to keep users private information securely.  
Just a little note, if withdrawal limit for unverified accounts on bittrex is 0 btc. If you have an old account on there, you will be get 0.4 btc limit as withdrawal amount.

I don't think gambling site must do KYC as the requirement on their site, gambling site is a place when you are having fun, it's much different with exchange sites which most of people save their money on there.
I believe no one would savw their money in gambling site
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September 06, 2019, 04:29:55 AM
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KYC is good as it I safe and it is easy way to trust any site about the security we will be happy that we have KYC of the opponent so no one will be able to give us deceive. There are so many bad people who only take advantage of the other people so before getting or investing in gambling gain knowledge about it.

If there is any gambling site which doesn't have to complete KYC, then I will use them to playing gambling because I don't want to reveal my identity or send the document to them. I don't think that it is necessary to send that document because I don't have any reason to make money from gambling and I think we don't have to do KYC. We need to be careful if we want to send the private document to any third party because there is no guarantee to be safe on the internet.

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September 06, 2019, 06:40:36 AM
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I sometimes find it very difficult to understand what gamblers really want. A site that gives freebies and lots of Bonuses are feared to be scam sites and some that do not are being complained of. This shouldn’t even be a problem as we all know there will always be scam sites and in short it didn’t start from today.

I don’t care the strategies scam sites are using buy one thing I know for sure is that I can never be scammed, not on any new or existing gambling sites. In short I can’t even imagine how a gambler is being scammed, like what made him visit the site in the first place. What happened to playing on very familiar and well know sites. Why would you consider a site that is new hand has the tendency to run away with your money.
I knew from your first sentence that you have never been scammed, if you ever fell for this guys, you will understand better that those who are victims weren’t foolish. It just happened. Scam doesn’t not only occur on new sites, I have seen players been duped on some familiar site and the bad thing about this type is that people find it hard to believe because of the trust they have for this sites.

Anyway you are right, to gamble on a known site is still better, it’s still safer than a site you do not know anyone who has tried playing on the site or have reviews from players to know what their experience with the site was.
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September 06, 2019, 09:35:37 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.


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September 06, 2019, 10:03:13 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.
They make such promotions to attract new gamblers for a new site they offer more than 50-200% for the first deposit bonus. But they will not be easy to get the bonus because they have to complete the wagering requirements.

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September 06, 2019, 10:05:01 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

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September 06, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
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I seriously commend this site on the job of controlling fraudulent sites, I am sure a lot of people would have been duped by now if not for the constant exposure of the activities of scam sites on this page but it still hasn’t stopped them from duping players but those who fall into this especially this period of time are players that do not pay attention to the instructions on the forum.

There is a constant advice of players not playing games in new sites and mainly unfamiliar sites but it baffles me why some people would still prefer to play here. The reasons are not legit enough to me, why would you risk your money, isn’t it safer to play on well-known sites?

Well, for me I don’t trust any sites, even the old sites cannot be trusted totally. It is only more preferable to new sites.
Thank you for this beautiful post but I must let you know that despite all the efforts that have been put together by the site and honorable members of this forum, there are still people falling into scam activities on a daily bases, we definitely won’t blame this on the gambling sites anymore because players themselves aren’t helping matters, most of them are so greedy that even when they see fire and because there is money inside, they wouldn’t mind going into it to risk bringing out the money.

Gamblers that get duped are aware that playing on such sites is on 50/50 chance and they are not scared of loosing their money.
Yeah allot of sites are scamming and they are using gaming fake sites so better make research before trusting any new site at the same time you should keep your eyes open to start gaming with new site ao little care can give you better reward also make research on Google about the website you are using for gambling.
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September 09, 2019, 07:18:02 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

It's true that most deposit bonuses aren't that good. Mostly you have to wager that much that's almost impossible to unlock it.

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If that's a new site then you something to worry about, but if it's an old gambling site and there's no report about them, then it's ok to do that, these gambling sites, sometimes offer a deposit bonus for new members, they do this to attract more people to deposit, I remember one gambling site giving 50% deposit bonus if you are going to deposit a certain amount.

We judge the gambling sites based on their reputation, not because they are old or new because in the growing crypto gambling industry, it's expected that there are new gambling sites that will be created and that will improve the competition in the market.

Most of the sites offers deposit bonus, but they are scam, the bonus is part of their marketing but if you will read carefully on the rules, you will realize that although the bonus is so attractive, it's not easy won by a gambler since there's a lot of condition to fulfill.

It's true that most deposit bonuses aren't that good. Mostly you have to wager that much that's almost impossible to unlock it.
Agree it’s hard to get your amount back once you lose it better before starting just choose the right one and after that you could feel safe about the site that you have chosen for gambling. Most of time because of fake website people lose hope and they become worried at fallen market value or getting stuck their money use this forum to get fair site.
Bonuses are just part of their marketing and its normal for them to put up high wager requirement for most gamblers would able to fail to reach it up and make some withdrawal.
Thats why i dont really care too much with bonuses and other perks because it would always be tied up with some casual wagering requirement.We know that only a few lucky ones will able to succeed to get up profits with those perks.

Trust on gambling sites isnt really that easy specially when you are trying to use a new site but i you dont like to hassle up your mind then you can simply stick out to those old and reputable ones.

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Read as many customer reviews about them as possible. This will help you to decide whether to trust them or not.

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Read as many customer reviews about them as possible. This will help you to decide whether to trust them or not.

Reading the reviews doesn't guarantee us to get the right gambling website, especially if we only read the reviews from the website in out there. But if you read on here, I guess that you will find many recommended gambling website that you can use. After you can find the right website, you need to decide on the money you will use because that will determine how much you can afford to lose in playing gambling.

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September 11, 2019, 06:09:13 AM
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Read as many customer reviews about them as possible. This will help you to decide whether to trust them or not.

Reading the reviews doesn't guarantee us to get the right gambling website, ...

And addition to this, what if the Gambling Website is just pure and new and has a reviews on it? Have you ever think of it? Reviews are sometimes false, they actually made it by themselves with anonymous accounts and sometimes the company is eager to pay users for good reviews. So we really can't say that this is a bright idea.

It can just help us somehow but in majority it does not.
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And addition to this, what if the Gambling Website is just pure and new and has a reviews on it? Have you ever think of it? Reviews are sometimes false, they actually made it by themselves with anonymous accounts and sometimes the company is eager to pay users for good reviews. So we really can't say that this is a bright idea.
It can just help us somehow but in majority it does not.
What makes people write positive reviews on the Internet? If the website has no problems with paying bets or problems with the withdrawal of money, then you just use it, maybe you advise it if you were asked about a good gambling site. I will only believe in a good review if there will be a referral link in it. This will mean that they also pay a commission.  Again, this is a very rare case.

If you were deceived in any way, then you are happy to write a bad review. This bad review sounds much more convincing than a good one. The bottom line is that bad reviews are much more honest usually, especially with regard to unknown and unreliable gambling sites.

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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.


If it's like this, we can be sure the site is a scam. How could the bonus be greater than the deposit. it's really very silly in my opinion. And sites like that should be avoided and don't play there, it's better to find a real gambling site even though there is no bonus.
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Read as many customer reviews about them as possible. This will help you to decide whether to trust them or not.

Reading the reviews doesn't guarantee us to get the right gambling website, ...

And addition to this, what if the Gambling Website is just pure and new and has a reviews on it? Have you ever think of it? Reviews are sometimes false, they actually made it by themselves with anonymous accounts and sometimes the company is eager to pay users for good reviews. So we really can't say that this is a bright idea.

It can just help us somehow but in majority it does not.

I never think that the reviews from another website will be pure and honest reviews. Some reviews are false because they get some money to do the reviews, so it is wrong if we follow their suggestion to choose the gambling site.

That is why I always suggest to my friends not to believe in many reviews and will ask them to search the other sources to get more information. We can use the reviews but don't use it as the source to choose the right gambling site.

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September 12, 2019, 11:00:53 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.


If it's like this, we can be sure the site is a scam. How could the bonus be greater than the deposit. it's really very silly in my opinion. And sites like that should be avoided and don't play there, it's better to find a real gambling site even though there is no bonus.

I agree. Things like that are indeed suspicious. But sometimes there are also sites that do that and I don't know whether gambling sites are scams or not. And it's better not to do it than we lose our deposit on the gambling site.
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If it's too good to be true then there is a high chance it is a scam. On kyc it is not bad for me as long as that site has a good review. They are just preventing that the money that will be used on their site came from money laundering. If you're afraid to be scammed or your info to be sold in the black market gamble on the reputated websites like cloudbet, primedice, or fortunejack.
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September 12, 2019, 03:37:15 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.


If it's like this, we can be sure the site is a scam. How could the bonus be greater than the deposit. it's really very silly in my opinion. And sites like that should be avoided and don't play there, it's better to find a real gambling site even though there is no bonus.

I agree. Things like that are indeed suspicious. But sometimes there are also sites that do that and I don't know whether gambling sites are scams or not. And it's better not to do it than we lose our deposit on the gambling site.
Well not all are fake or scamming but most of them are good and trust worthy but as nothing can be taken without hard work so that's why make research there's are huge number of sites but it’s little need to be touchy while choosing a site. Better get idea from bitcointalk.org there are so many people who can guide you.
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.


If it's like this, we can be sure the site is a scam. How could the bonus be greater than the deposit. it's really very silly in my opinion. And sites like that should be avoided and don't play there, it's better to find a real gambling site even though there is no bonus.

I agree. Things like that are indeed suspicious. But sometimes there are also sites that do that and I don't know whether gambling sites are scams or not. And it's better not to do it than we lose our deposit on the gambling site.
Well not all are fake or scamming but most of them are good and trust worthy but as nothing can be taken without hard work so that's why make research there's are huge number of sites but it’s little need to be touchy while choosing a site. Better get idea from bitcointalk.org there are so many people who can guide you.
If you don't do make some searching or do made some verification from the community you would most likely got be victimized with these fraud sites.

It doesn't take too much time to ask specially into this forum where there are lots of experienced ones will able to give out valid views and experience which
you can apply regarding with your own decision.Common sense is pretty basic though but lots of them do fail out even doing the most basic thing.

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September 12, 2019, 07:43:45 PM
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Read as many customer reviews about them as possible. This will help you to decide whether to trust them or not.

This is the wisest way of deciding on which gambling site you are about to deposit your money.
If you read at least one negative review, then avoid this casino and select another one.
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September 12, 2019, 08:28:38 PM
 #190

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Why cannot you trust, when a gambling website is offering a bonus at the start It is basically a new way to attract more visitors and clients. I do not see anything wrong with that.

If it is a scam gambling site they will not allow you to withdraw. So, my advice to you is to deposit a small amount and try to withdraw it.

I am hearing for the first time that a gambling site is asking for KYC. They love anonymity and thats why people play there.

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September 12, 2019, 08:55:15 PM
 #191

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

If the bonus given is unreasonable (too big compared to depostit) of course the user will be careful, I don't blame their system. And I understand the purpose of the gambling site.

Why cannot you trust, when a gambling website is offering a bonus at the start It is basically a new way to attract more visitors and clients. I do not see anything wrong with that.


Suggestions like this are good for trying these gambling sites. "And you have to remember, be careful what you do"



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September 12, 2019, 11:02:43 PM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?
Just like gambling, we put our money on a color, team or a fighter thinking that we picked the right one and win after a thorough research like stats, back ground and odds, same with picking the right gambling site, we have to research their back ground and risk if they will run away with our deposits. Sites asking for KYC are just complying from the regulations set by the government where their site is registered. If you don't like to go through KYC, there are still sites out there that does not require it.
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September 12, 2019, 11:19:43 PM
 #193

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling site will give you bonus some time that will actually be more than your initial capital on the condition that you my not be able to withdraw that same amount for over a period of time or unless you trade with the capital to some extent before you can make withdrawal from that account.
KYC as a requirement before you open an account with any crypto currency exchange this is because they really need to know there customers.
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September 13, 2019, 05:36:11 AM
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If it's too good to be true then there is a high chance it is a scam. On kyc it is not bad for me as long as that site has a good review. They are just preventing that the money that will be used on their site came from money laundering. If you're afraid to be scammed or your info to be sold in the black market gamble on the reputated websites like cloudbet, primedice, or fortunejack.
Playing only on popular sites with a good reputation will be the best solution for most gamblers. If you want to play on newly created sites that offer good bonuses, provably fair games, transparent investment plans, this must be done very very carefully. No need to rush to give your money, it is better for you to look at gambling website work for a long period of time, listen to the opinions and reviews of people from this forum, for example. All this will reduce your risks and protect against potential scammers.

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September 14, 2019, 06:03:59 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling site will give you bonus some time that will actually be more than your initial capital on the condition that you my not be able to withdraw that same amount for over a period of time or unless you trade with the capital to some extent before you can make withdrawal from that account.
KYC as a requirement before you open an account with any crypto currency exchange this is because they really need to know there customers.

I think it's not good for gambling website reputation if they use a rule that needs a gambler to have bigger initial capital before they can be able to withdraw the money. That is their win money, and they deserve to withdraw their money anytime, and the gambling games cannot stop them from withdrawing. I don't think that if the promising gambling website that doesn't have KYC will look like a scam gambling site because that will depends on how they can make their customer satisfied with their services.

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September 14, 2019, 10:41:45 PM
 #196

Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling site will give you bonus some time that will actually be more than your initial capital on the condition that you my not be able to withdraw that same amount for over a period of time or unless you trade with the capital to some extent before you can make withdrawal from that account.
KYC as a requirement before you open an account with any crypto currency exchange this is because they really need to know there customers.

I think it's not good for gambling website reputation if they use a rule that needs a gambler to have bigger initial capital before they can be able to withdraw the money. That is their win money, and they deserve to withdraw their money anytime, and the gambling games cannot stop them from withdrawing. I don't think that if the promising gambling website that doesn't have KYC will look like a scam gambling site because that will depends on how they can make their customer satisfied with their services.

theres always a catch if the gambling site is being generous with their deposit bonus. so if you encounter such site, you need to read the feedback from the users or if they have thread here in the forum, dont be lazy reading the comments from players. you will gain insights on how a site is running their business.
 and if you do want to try and deposit on their site, you basically know what youre getting into, right? its not that you are surprised when the withdrawal time comes.
 would be your fault if that happens, simple reading of their TOS is a must if you are seriously considering playing with them!

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September 15, 2019, 12:45:25 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling site will give you bonus some time that will actually be more than your initial capital on the condition that you my not be able to withdraw that same amount for over a period of time or unless you trade with the capital to some extent before you can make withdrawal from that account.
KYC as a requirement before you open an account with any crypto currency exchange this is because they really need to know there customers.

I think it's not good for gambling website reputation if they use a rule that needs a gambler to have bigger initial capital before they can be able to withdraw the money. That is their win money, and they deserve to withdraw their money anytime, and the gambling games cannot stop them from withdrawing. I don't think that if the promising gambling website that doesn't have KYC will look like a scam gambling site because that will depends on how they can make their customer satisfied with their services.

theres always a catch if the gambling site is being generous with their deposit bonus. so if you encounter such site, you need to read the feedback from the users or if they have thread here in the forum, dont be lazy reading the comments from players. you will gain insights on how a site is running their business.
 and if you do want to try and deposit on their site, you basically know what youre getting into, right? its not that you are surprised when the withdrawal time comes.
 would be your fault if that happens, simple reading of their TOS is a must if you are seriously considering playing with them!

The feedback will give nice information to us but don't always trust the feedback itself because you need to search by yourself. If you read on this forum, then you can get trustable feedback because we are here only give a trust gambling site which we can use to playing gambling. We don't want to get a scam or get false information on the gambling site so the feedback will be the honest feedback. Reading the TOS will better if we don't have any information but always make sure to search by yourself before you playing gambling or deposit your money.

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September 15, 2019, 06:37:31 AM
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Why nowadays when there's a gambling site that offer a bunos on your first depost it seems like scam?  Especially if the bunos is to much than your initial deposit.

And also whe all knows mostly gambling site nowadays are using KYC.  but why when there's a promising site that doesn't require  kyc it smell fishy as well?  What did happen to this world?  How to trust again on this kind of sites?

Gambling site will give you bonus some time that will actually be more than your initial capital on the condition that you my not be able to withdraw that same amount for over a period of time or unless you trade with the capital to some extent before you can make withdrawal from that account.
KYC as a requirement before you open an account with any crypto currency exchange this is because they really need to know there customers.

I think it's not good for gambling website reputation if they use a rule that needs a gambler to have bigger initial capital before they can be able to withdraw the money. That is their win money, and they deserve to withdraw their money anytime, and the gambling games cannot stop them from withdrawing. I don't think that if the promising gambling website that doesn't have KYC will look like a scam gambling site because that will depends on how they can make their customer satisfied with their services.

theres always a catch if the gambling site is being generous with their deposit bonus. so if you encounter such site, you need to read the feedback from the users or if they have thread here in the forum, dont be lazy reading the comments from players. you will gain insights on how a site is running their business.
 and if you do want to try and deposit on their site, you basically know what youre getting into, right? its not that you are surprised when the withdrawal time comes.
 would be your fault if that happens, simple reading of their TOS is a must if you are seriously considering playing with them!

The feedback will give nice information to us but don't always trust the feedback itself because you need to search by yourself. If you read on this forum, then you can get trustable feedback because we are here only give a trust gambling site which we can use to playing gambling. We don't want to get a scam or get false information on the gambling site so the feedback will be the honest feedback. Reading the TOS will better if we don't have any information but always make sure to search by yourself before you playing gambling or deposit your money.

We cannot only depend upon feedback only when searching for a trusted gambling sites. These days the sites do pay for the marketing and they are paid feedbacks too. So trusting a new gambling sites on the basis of only feedback is wrong. This rule is for the new gambling sites.
For the old ones, we already know which are the sites running from years and there is no need to look for their feedback to ensure their credibility.
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