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August 29, 2019, 09:14:01 AM
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Almost everyone wants to be an expert in bitcoin's price prediction, it seems very funny how silly proposals they throw. Some says bitcoin will reach 100K, 1 million, others say it will go down to 100$ and etc, very silly proposals. Hate when I see people predict things without arguments, did they see dreams and then state them?
Cmon man, never listen to those popular people, never, just listen to yourself, be logical, read crypto related news and you'll succeed.

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August 29, 2019, 11:52:36 AM
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Almost everyone wants to be an expert in bitcoin's price prediction, it seems very funny how silly proposals they throw. Some says bitcoin will reach 100K, 1 million, others say it will go down to 100$ and etc, very silly proposals. Hate when I see people predict things without arguments, did they see dreams and then state them?
Cmon man, never listen to those popular people, never, just listen to yourself, be logical, read crypto related news and you'll succeed.

That's why it's going to become $78,532  Cool

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August 29, 2019, 12:40:16 PM
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With all these speculation that is coming out everyday  i realize that i will not believe to every speculation made by known persons , i will just wait what will happen to bitcoin  by next year.  Speculations/ predictions  wont make any  change on bitcoins price.
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August 30, 2019, 12:48:41 PM
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Almost everyone wants to be an expert in bitcoin's price prediction, it seems very funny how silly proposals they throw. Some says bitcoin will reach 100K, 1 million, others say it will go down to 100$ and etc, very silly proposals. Hate when I see people predict things without arguments, did they see dreams and then state them?
Cmon man, never listen to those popular people, never, just listen to yourself, be logical, read crypto related news and you'll succeed.
And all that you have said, what is then your own prediction? Because, those ones that are predicting positive figures are doing so at least to make the market lively and active, because without those prediction to rely on and give some people hope, we may not have gotten some people to be putting in money.

The only speculation that I usually do not support are those that are against bitcoin, because they only end up creating unnecessary FUD which we have some people that are not strong enough and it will affect them, but a high prediction still have a way of keeping our spirit high even if they say it will become 5 million dollars, it is now left for us to personally analyze it and see if there is any sense or possibility in those predicted figures for us to act on or not.
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August 30, 2019, 02:40:09 PM
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We shall all see sime day that this Man prediction about bitcoin has no iota of truth when bitcoin finally hit $50,000 and above. If I may ask about his previous prediction of the financial market and housing? Has any of his prediction come to fulfilment? If the answer is yes then he should be aware that Bitcoin and crypto currency is a different market entirely.
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August 30, 2019, 04:11:52 PM
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Speculations/ predictions  wont make any  change on bitcoins price.
The reason you cannot trust a celebrity speculating on something is because they are paid to do so with the amount of followers they have and it might have an impact on the market momentarily, but people who are in this market or any market for a long time have seen these tactics and since it is a decentralized market defamation cannot be charged against them, not sure whether they will have a speculated prediction like this against any companies listed in the stock exchange.
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August 30, 2019, 07:01:34 PM
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That's his opinion though. You know what, everyone can make any claim in this century we're in and get a lotta literature to back the claims but the reality is what happens tomorrow hehee.... So let them keep on hating...
I thing he is a Bitcoin pessimist and a critic who would always talk negatively about the future of the coin. It is not just a coin but a technology that has been changing the whole world. The cost of transactions have been cut into huge scale and this is decentralized loved by people and is another way to make money if you speculate in the coin.
In the other side, maybe they only want to buy coins in cheap price. what is the reason people especially influencer make something that can affect on bitcoin price, only they who know it. Maybe for now like what other people said, maybe we as traders already know this strategy and wouldn't trapped for something like this. Maybe need to spread to others too so they not always believe something like this.

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September 01, 2019, 01:02:59 AM
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Peter Schiff might be right if only the institutional investors' definition of a safe haven is considered. However, let us see. Bitcoin might be already on new all time highs by the next global recession. Peter has been very critical of bitcoin since it was $100 hehehe.


In a Twitter debate on August 29, Schiff used the sudden weakness in the Bitcoin price to suggest it was an unreliable alternative investment to assets such as stocks and fiat currency.

He rejected previous theories that BTC could help investors looking to hedge risk from exposure to factors such as the US-China trade war.

Bitcoin lost around 8% on Thursday, taking its price to below $9500 – a level it has stayed at since.

“Bitcoin has again failed the safe haven test,” Schiff declared.

“On Friday, as escalating trade tensions sent global stock markets plunging, investors sought refuge in monetary safe havens. The Japanese yen, Swiss franc, and especially gold all moved higher. Yet Bitcoin plunged by more than stocks!”


Read in full https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-failed-safe-haven-test-again-goldbug-schiff/

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November 03, 2019, 01:03:17 AM
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Super more than Tom Lee permabull Max Keisler has speculated that China's cryptocoin might be backed by gold. Peter Schiff responds that it might be bad for bitcoin.

I speculate that it might be more heavenly for bitcoin's capital flight market hehehehe. Coin to coin trading is easier than fiat to coin.



Source https://u.today/bitcoin-will-suffer-if-china-coin-gets-backed-by-gold-peter-schiff-responds-to-max-keiser

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November 03, 2019, 01:29:22 AM
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Oh for god's sake, Peter Schiff and his never ending stream of baloney.

He will never say gold isn't bullish, even when the price is falling.  He said that the whole time gold was sinking after it hit its last all time high about 8 years ago and he'll keep saying the same stuff regardless of what gold does.  Because of that I just can't take him seriously when he talks about bitcoin.

China is creating a gold backed crypto?  That's news to me.  I thought the world was essentially done with the gold standard.  Why would they bother with some strange hybrid like that?
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November 03, 2019, 02:58:53 AM
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The thing with price falling in anything, its not a negative for the commodity itself.   If you wanted to buy alot of wheat to make some food, nobody minds a lower price so long as they have a use for it.   Part of the reason why Bitcoin lasted this long is that when price falls it has at least some benefit for someone out there.   Many thought its a one way market subject to bubble then pop but thats long past been proved not the case.
 
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A guess he's not so sure about never hitting $40k

lol thats a good point but be glad if someone says something can never happen, it makes it all the more likely.   You got to think of all those people who consider this newfangled thing as without any purpose or use, they are future buyers.   I'm more scared when everyone is abroad and there is no calls for failure or much lower price, then I think people are too bullish and I call that a negative sign personally.

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November 03, 2019, 11:16:11 AM
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Can we just stop drawing our attention to this guy then, obviously he’s just a one sided man and very conservative with his traditional investments. Let them stick to their old school stuff and lets take care of our own.
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November 03, 2019, 03:34:06 PM
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China is creating a gold backed crypto?  That's news to me.  I thought the world was essentially done with the gold standard.  Why would they bother with some strange hybrid like that?

They need a Plan B for people that will say CNY is just useless fiat just like USD. It is good to always have Plan B.
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November 03, 2019, 05:34:27 PM
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Can we just stop drawing our attention to this guy then, obviously he’s just a one sided man and very conservative with his traditional investments. Let them stick to their old school stuff and lets take care of our own.
The problem with people within crypto is that they want these high level legacy investors to embrace crypto, while it's so obvious that it goes against everything he has built up throughout the last years with his business Europac.

Even if he really likes Bitcoin, he will still pretend that it has no value at all in the media because of his business.... if there was no gold business involved I'm sure his opinion on Bitcoin would be completely different.

People just need to accept that there are certain incentives these legacy players have to protect. As long as that is the case, they will keep trash talking Bitcoin and the general crypto space.... so indeed, lets just get over it an move on.

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November 03, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
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China is creating a gold backed crypto?  That's news to me.  I thought the world was essentially done with the gold standard.  Why would they bother with some strange hybrid like that?

Totally unconfirmed rumors, based on nothing more than the insane ramblings of Max Keiser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgOthBngUq0

Take everything Max Keiser says with a giant bag of salt. Wink

China may be hoarding gold but I doubt they are backing their digital currency with it. A gold standard? Give me a break. Control over CNY/RMB exchange rates is a key part of China's economic strategy.....

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November 03, 2019, 11:50:01 PM
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Its not impossible as China has been a major buyer of gold for over a decade along with Russia, not only being the worlds largest buyer but also the worlds highest producer of gold and importer.   They dont export unfinished gold or even manufactured gold so far as I know so they are storing tons of gold every year as reserves, more then any other country in the world.  
  Yet they are still behind because previously they had no gold reserves and USA still has the most gold reserve in the world but also the highest production of debt and money owed to the rest of the world where as China is a net exporter, USA has trade and fiscal deficit of a trillion per annum I think.  
  I doubt we have China setting up any good currency standard and in crypto I dont see them respecting decentralisation.    Communism in its perfect ideals is supposed to be distributed power and in reality its a military dictatorship that kidnaps citizens without trial for politics and carries out summary executions, its unlikely they act any differently in currency standards from humanitarian.   I do expect them to switch from dollar to demanding gold some day, but they benefit so long as gold is not valued relative to total dollars available ie. a price lower then Nixon's alteration of global reserve standards.     It would be too open and honest to have gold backed crypto, maybe in ten years when they are more of an importer then exporter.

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November 04, 2019, 03:06:29 AM
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Oh for god's sake, Peter Schiff and his never ending stream of baloney.

He will never say gold isn't bullish, even when the price is falling.  He said that the whole time gold was sinking after it hit its last all time high about 8 years ago and he'll keep saying the same stuff regardless of what gold does.  Because of that I just can't take him seriously when he talks about bitcoin.

China is creating a gold backed crypto?  That's news to me.  I thought the world was essentially done with the gold standard.  Why would they bother with some strange hybrid like that?

I reckon that it was only speculation from bitcoin super permabull, Max Keisler. However, China has been hoarding gold since 2008, also Russia. What would they do with all that gold?

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November 04, 2019, 10:36:11 AM
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Ask Peter Stiff how much Bitcoin is an ounce of gold 10 years ago and how much Bitcoin is an ounce of gold today. Then tell him to make a projection of how much Bitcoin is an ounce of gold in the next 10 years. Cool

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November 04, 2019, 12:48:05 PM
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If we are going to look at the last 10 years old, then we can see steady growth. the Bitcoin value is highly volatile and I think $49.999 is definitely possible with the halvening and lots of institutional investors coming up, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Bitcoin passes $100,000 in 2020-2021. Moreover, we can definitely see another wave of emotional cryptocurrency purchases made by inexperienced people which will provoke another bull run. If you want more reason, although difficult, applying technical, fundamentals and time related Fibonacci levels, still there's a good chance BTC hits $100,000 sometime 2021 onwards.
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November 04, 2019, 03:14:44 PM
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Moreover, we can definitely see another wave of emotional cryptocurrency purchases made by inexperienced people which will provoke another bull run. If you want more reason, although difficult, applying technical, fundamentals and time related Fibonacci levels, still there's a good chance BTC hits $100,000 sometime 2021 onwards.
The market is maturing and i am not expecting anything like that in the future, people will invest a few thousands when ever they see a big rally and right now many banks has banned from using credit cards to purchase bitcoin, in the last rally many people used their credit cards and maxed out to purchase coins and when the market started falling they were not able to return those and now things have changed, you will not be able to purchase using credit cards directly but i am also optimistic like everyone and i too expect the market to rally.
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