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August 22, 2019, 06:29:44 PM
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If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
This line is indeed the truth but we cant do anything about it if certain government do ban gambling into their country.They do have the power on the things that they do like to decide.They might have that sole purpose of banning it just to project its citizens to get addicted and some of them do able to allow it for taxation matter yet we know
that these gambling places generate enourmous amounts of profit and that do benefit out the economy on said country somehow.

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August 22, 2019, 10:56:24 PM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
Singapura? Are we talking about Singapore here? There are two casinos in Singapore which is in Marina Bay Sands and in Sentosa. Singapura if I am not mistaken is the old name of Singapore. Singapura (Malay) means Lion City. Although Singapore is just a small island or islands (some are reclaimed only or man made), 2 casinos are just enough.
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August 22, 2019, 11:14:42 PM
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Gambling is like a part of human. And banning gambling can't stop them from gambling if they really want to. They would still gamble illegally. But for me, regulating gambling is already enough and not to the point the government have to ban it. Just like here in my country, some gambling are legal and some are illegal.

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August 23, 2019, 02:41:06 AM
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Although the governments want to ban gambling industry, I guess they will difficult to close all of the gambling places, especially with the biggest gambling places in offline and online. The owner of the gambling places will negotiate with them to continue their business, and perhaps, there will be money that will be given to the government.

Although all governments ban all of the gambling places, I am sure that people will still find a way to connect to the gambling places and visit it back to playing gambling. It doesn't stop people from playing gambling because gambling will still exist for a long time. So I think that will not be a good idea if the government ban the gambling industry, perhaps, they could make a regulation that will prohibit younger people from playing gambling.

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August 23, 2019, 03:40:16 AM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

Governments often ban gambling to save their citizens from getting addicted and loosing their money, though I don’t really agree with their decision as citizens should be free to decide whether they wish to gamble or not. If only governments allowed gambling they could make huge amounts of money in taxes, and use it for further development of thier citizens.

Some of the countries banning gambling are mostly Muslim countries, it's understandable because it prohibits them although there are some Muslim regions  that allow them, North Korea is very obvious because people there are so poor that they do not have the means to gamble and they control everything, Gambling cannot be prevented by liberal and democratic countries, but countries that has full control of their citizen can impose that

@Saisher you’re correct countries that run on Islam laws do not allow gambling, and when I visited Dubai last year I didn’t knew this and tried searching for a casino but I found none because betting is illegal there.
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August 23, 2019, 03:50:45 AM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens ?
if their purpose of banning gambling is because of protecting thier citizens then that is great  . its good to know that there are still governments like that thesedays but im not saying that those who allow gambling are careless or selfish type of governments .  they also care about thier citizens because they think that people will enjoy and can profit if they allow gambling on thier country  .
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August 23, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
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In my country also gambling prohibited but nothing i can do because they have their own reasons why decide gambling illegal but indeed in the some of countries who legalize gambling then it can be good as source tax because i thought gambling tax is very high and government can use the money to build public facilities which is can be use by many people

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August 23, 2019, 05:40:15 AM
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One of the reason why governments made gambling as illegal is religious belief like in Islam gambling will be considered as illegal so countries like UAE ad Brunei banned gambling due to that and other religion also might say it as not the right thing to do.But personally people gamble with or without their knowledge from their childhood between friend as well which is the thing existed for very long time and it will stay even in the banned countries.









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August 23, 2019, 05:46:08 AM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,
The list of the countries you have provided and playing of gambling is illegal in those countries is a surprise to me and I thought Japan and Cyprus are safe for gambling! The government is not safing the citizens from taking risk but because there is no flamework in the tax’s laws on gambling and they have to tag gambling as evil in other to be able to make it illegal !
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August 23, 2019, 05:48:05 AM
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Here in the Philippines they wouldn't ban those things, necessarily because the government is corrupt and they gain so much money on these casinos, they only see gambling as illegal if they don't seem to get tax on it just like JUETENG,... and other online casinos that isn't registered by SEC,...
Gambling in our country is registered in the government so they will not ban those kind of gambling games here Cheesy. You said it already that our country is composed of a corrupted government that is why they will not ban gambling here. Not only Jueteng but also the so called "peryahan" is considered gambling too. Anyway, that is how our country is lets just go with the flow Cheesy.

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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies.

Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal.

United Arab Emirates
Brunei
Cambodia
North Korea
Japan
Singapura
Cyprus
Qatar
Lebanon
Poland
source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/


The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.

I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC!

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Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally,

because gambling is associated with illegal activities such as money laundering, gang/mob/mafia involvement etc. which the government tries to prevent or limit it's activities
in their country. and as you know there are countries that allows gambling but with strict restriction to limit the crime activities it associated with.

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During my last work time in Balkan as early as January 2019 the Albanian government completely banned all kind of offline gambling as familys were being destroyed and the number of divorces and unemployment rate was really big.I saw even 11 year kids playing sport betting there and I have never seen this in any other Balkan country where I have worked.

In this case I think it was a right decision,government also blocked many online fiat bookies like bet365.

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August 23, 2019, 06:31:29 AM
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The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that.
We can't argue with this. Gambling is really part of our system. From its meaning, gambling is 'something that could produce a desired result or a bad or unpleasant result.' In other words, it's all about risks. So with or without money, we gamble because we take risks.

If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally.
Indeed. And since we've said that gambling is human nature, once people are really engaged, they will surely find a way to satisfy their crave to gamble. And it won't matter to them whether it's the legal or illegal means. If it's the latter, it'll surely cause bigger problems to the government.

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August 23, 2019, 09:16:10 AM
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Government would always claim they are banning gambling to protect it's citizens, and that is what it looks like at the surface. But the reality is that most Governments bans gambling to prevent the outflow of wealth from their country. Again, gambling can be addictive. So it's not farfetched for Government to legitimately claim they are banning gambling to protect their citizens from unwanted addiction.

But the reality is that human being will always find a way to gamble. After all, life itself is like a gamble. 
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August 23, 2019, 10:05:46 AM
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The banning of gambling companies under certain jurisdiction can be certainly compared with banning of cryptocurrencies globally at some of the major countries by the government. In the latter case, the government is afraid of their citizens being adapted themselves to the digital currencies and their own currency might become devalued in the future. Regarding the legality of gambling, there are comparatively pros and cons when people gamble with their money. When luck and certain strategies favour gamblers they win a lot of money and become rich. Majority of the governmental practises tend to control their citizens and make them live under a centralized way of gaining money.

Another factor is that Gambling can result in loss of hard earned money if luck doesn't favour the gambler. Certain government tend to restrict such practices at a larger scale to protect their citizens. On top of that, some casinos indulge themselves in shady activities with mobs and criminals which might destroy the reputation of the government. Either way, even though Gambling is accepted as a form of entertainment in most of the English speaking countries, they tend to provide a negative impact to the gamblers on worst moments of luck.
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August 23, 2019, 10:20:59 AM
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I think they are thinking that it is better to ban them than people getting addicted to it, and I don't think that will help some.

There are a lot of people wanting to gamble and even if it is illegal, people would gamble illegally. They will hide, find themselves a place they can part their cards in and bet them money. Why don't they just legalized gambling and put a good taxes on casinos or gambling places so they don't need to think about it since it will be the responsibility of the gambler and not them.
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August 23, 2019, 11:33:55 AM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.

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August 23, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
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Its kind of funny though to see how successive governments that have come into play try as much to want to ban gambling and they have continually fail in it. I think what happens to majority of governments is those whose way of governance are guided by religious connotations and because the religious book didn't change they are forced to abide by it even though they themselves knows the potential of regulations and the amount of money that could be generated from such endeavor.

For the liberal ones, they are gradually changing with rules and regulations in place to ensure that its done within the ambits of the law.
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August 23, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?

Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money.

 Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction.  Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site.

We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it.
Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning.

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