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August 23, 2019, 02:13:25 PM |
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Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it. It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.
That list was just an example to support my argument that governments try to ban gamble in some places.
Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, the only gamble which is legal is made by the government (a lotery)
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August 23, 2019, 04:52:55 PM |
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The governments know that gambling can cause family separation, job losses and money laundering. Hence any government should take such a move. Obviously, if the Government puts a tax on those casinos, it will be a profit for them, but at the cost of others lives? That's just too selfish!
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August 23, 2019, 05:34:01 PM |
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Guys i didn't made that list of banned countries, just shared it. It is good to see so many people from those countries mentioned, so you can guys can tell if the list is wrong or not.
From the list of countries you mentioned in OP,I have been on UAE and Brunei,not sure about the UAE but on other Arab counties it were prohibited and also in Brunei it was made illegal by their Sulthan since its against Sharia law.
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August 23, 2019, 06:25:02 PM |
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By trying to ban gambling, you're just letting money go out of your country. Take a look at all those Arab countries. Do their citizens stop gambling? No, they just go online. (For some reason I kept hearing Bahrain when it comes to gambling though)
Same for the Chinese. Mainlanders would just go to Macau and now that CCP is trying to "wean" Macau off gambling, where do you think they'll go? Yeah, just other Asian countries. It's so high demand for the Chinese that you see Chinese companies going abroad to build casinos just to accommodate all those gamblers.
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August 23, 2019, 06:27:16 PM |
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else? As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies. Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal. United Arab Emirates Brunei Cambodia North Korea Japan Singapura Cyprus Qatar Lebanon Poland source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/ The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that. I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC! Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GamblingIf government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally, As far as I know governments prohibits gambling mainly for two reasons, the first reason is that they are trying to protect a segment of the population that will easily get addicted to gambling and lose their money, the problem with this approach is that those people will still lose their money by gambling in an illegal casino or will lose it in some other way, the second reason is that casinos tend to attract crime to the community, so the police department needs to receive more money from the government or criminal activities could get out of control, obviously this is not a problem for online gambling but governments do not like it because the money goes out of the community or even the country and never comes back.
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August 23, 2019, 06:35:14 PM |
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Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.
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August 23, 2019, 06:50:25 PM |
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Banning or prohibited because it is illegal I think they are the same. I did not saw a country of China, they are banning gambling on their place, so it means, it is obviously illegal. Maybe the government wanted to protect their citizen not being addicted to gambling because there are some others did not control their selves, it makes continuously making a profit even though that is not right. Different country has different rules and regulation so you must to obey.
Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China
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August 24, 2019, 03:18:49 AM |
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money. Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction. Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site. We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it. Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning. Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better.
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August 24, 2019, 03:49:34 AM |
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Let us not forget that after 3000BC there were horrible things that occurred and the Governments have still banned them 1 thing that comes to my mind immediately is slavery in America and Europe
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August 24, 2019, 08:13:29 AM |
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else?
Probably they worrying because mostly gamblers can do crime to feed their addiction wherein like drugs they will do anything to gain more money for gamble. And the sad things is some gamblers always forget their obligation on their family because they're concentrated of winning money. Im not saying all... but this is truly exist on some gamblers because of addiction. Probably that's why goverment trying to banned all the gambling site. We cannot deny that because gambling is indeed related to crimes cause some of them play beyond the limits. Governments only do what they are supposed to do with the intention of protecting their people to avoid it. Not really because they are not doing anything to protect people from the crimes but they are restricting gambling just because criminals also might doing gambling such a non sense thought right.But banning will result into underworld gambling industry to grow and also governments will lose the taxes from the gambling industry so it is always better to regulate than banning. Just because some people who commit crimes in gambling then generalize that gambling is bad because there are people who commit crimes, that is the wrong choice from the government. Gambling should not be banned, because today many people are smart in dealing with losses in gambling. if there are some people who commit crimes, not gamble which is prohibited, but make education for them about the risk of gambling, its will be better. If governments make money from the gambling casinos then they won't care about who is playing or losing their life on it but many casinos are not reporting the right tax amounts and also personal hate with the leaders might cause them to be banned totally.
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August 24, 2019, 12:07:45 PM |
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The bans no longer work. The world has become smaller and more interconnected, thanks to internet. If gambling is banned in a certain country, then the user can just use a VPN and join a gambling site which is based in some country where it is completely legal. Or they can just travel to those countries and visit the casinos themselves.
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August 24, 2019, 12:45:08 PM |
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I think you got the wrong idea. I am certain that gambling in Japan are not all illegal, mostly yes but still people can gamble and have fun but mostly it comes to sports betting and lottery. Gambling highly involves laundering and addiction problem (which somehow the government can't fix and thinking that the best possible option is just to ban it entirely). If government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally, Even if gambling will becomes legal there can still be "illegal" form of gambling. Are you saying that we should also allow the use of drugs so it will not be used illegally even if the addict can hurt somebody? that is completely irrational
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August 24, 2019, 12:59:53 PM |
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Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did.
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August 24, 2019, 03:57:13 PM |
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There are two reasons, they want it monitored and regulated because this is a good source of revenues, they are banning gambling that does not have licensed, another reason is they want total control of the wealth of their people like they do in North Korea or they are ultra-religious people and it is forbidden according to their holy book.
No government can really stop gambling its part of our nature, either they imposed a stiff penalty or they regulate it So far regulation is the most popular because it's a multi-billion dollar business, and there are cities built for gambling only.
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I don't understand exactly why some governments ban gambling. Is it like a babysitter government, trying to protect citizens from themselves? Or are they worried about something else? As gambling is highly profitable, government could make a lot of money by taxing those companies. Here is a list I found with 10 countries where gambling is completely illegal. United Arab Emirates Brunei Cambodia North Korea Japan Singapura Cyprus Qatar Lebanon Poland source:https://www.lawyer-monthly.com/2018/02/10-countries-where-gambling-is-completely-illegal/ The problem I see is that gambling is something humans always did. It is something in the human nature. We always ignore probability and think "I will be luck now, just once, and I will make money here" or something like that. I looked at wikipedia, people gamble since 3000BC! Gambling dates back to the Paleolithic period, before written history. In Mesopotamia the earliest six-sided dice date to about 3000 BC. However, they were based on astragali dating back thousands of years earlier. In China, gambling houses were widespread in the first millennium BC, and betting on fighting animals was common. Lotto games and dominoes (precursors of Pai Gow) appeared in China as early as the 10th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GamblingIf government ban gambling, people will gamble illegally. Just like prohibiting drugs, people will still use drugs illegally, So if anything is going on for ages and governments fail to ban it, they should make it legal ? Should they also make drugs legal just because people will not stop using it ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) The ban at least give some sort of restrictions and almost 50% of the people will follow the ban and will not try to do it illegally. The governments better know why and how gambling and drugs can be harmful for the people.
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August 24, 2019, 05:45:47 PM |
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Yes in China any form of gambling activities is illegal but their government runs two official lotteries which is the only option for the people from china to gamle with their money or they can go over seas and gamble there.But people from China normally visit Hong Kong to experience gambling practices.
I think they don't need to come to Hong Kong to gamble as they can do it online, just don't know how they manipulate it so they can't be detective by the authorities. In the Philippines some Chinese businessmen set-up online casinos as it is legal here but their customers are mostly Chinese. Lately the Chinese government is urging the Philippines to ban gambling as what Cambodia did. Those Chinese businessman who set up their gambling site from other countries are just trying to make much bigger profits as they can runaway from the government taxes, it's a good options doing offshores and targeting the same audience, they can deal online and earned bigger than what they can get when it's been setup inside their Homeland.
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As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
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August 24, 2019, 07:39:26 PM |
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Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)
I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations
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August 24, 2019, 08:33:45 PM |
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As you can see in the list you have brought to us, all of the countries mentioned above are somewhat in a great condition. What I mean is they are rich countries, so furthermore countries that are somehow not stated above and allows gambling in their vicinity: the obvious is that they most likely poor countries and populated. If that's the case then somehow those countries above have maintained law and order in their place and less crimes are done. A good government is trying to stop it's citizens from being destroyed and a bad government will let you gamble all you want and all that they care is profits from you, not caring on what you may become later on.
Neither a rich or poor country it doesn't matter.Regulation or prohibiting gambling into their vicinity does depend on them on what they do look towards gambling. Caring for its citizens is just a propaganda and not totally having the concern.They do have other reason why some countries do ban them and majority are still on neutral side.
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August 25, 2019, 03:58:47 AM |
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Here in Brazil casinos are illegal, but we can have lottery tickets, some private lottery and we are in a mid term about online gambling, we don't have any kind of regulation (and this is one of the best thing about crypto casinos, because it's different in the law, at least here)
I think every person should be responsible for their money, and there's no problem with gambling if the casinos or campanies have their own regulations
If all types of gambling are illegal, then online gambling (including sites that accept cryptocurrency) is also illegal. You won't face any issue unless you win some really big amount. But if that happens, it may be a headache to fill the tax returns. You can't say that you won the amount through gambling. They'll just send you a tax notice with 100% or 200% penalty.
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