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I have watched all the Democratic Candidates with keen interest, trying to figure out if there is any serious contender who's capable of taking on Trump. Sadly, I have seen none. Not even close! All I see are confused set of crazy loons who doesn't even know what they are vying for. Some are so out of touch that they choose to go to Mexico to organize rallies.  Roll Eyes

Everyone of them focusing on Trump even though they haven't got close to winning their own party primary, let alone coming face to face with Trump.

Are we looking at the biggest Presidential election landslide in the history of America? Who do you think is capable of taking of Trump, it doesn't matter the party? Because it seems Trump conquers everything and anything that stands in his way.

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August 23, 2019, 07:45:16 AM
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I have watched all the Democratic Candidates with keen interest, trying to figure out if there is any serious contender who's capable of taking on Trump. Sadly, I have seen none. Not even close! All I see are confused set of crazy loons who doesn't even know what they are vying for. Some are so out of touch that they choose to go to Mexico to organize rallies.  Roll Eyes

Everyone of them focusing on Trump even though they haven't got close to winning their own party primary, let alone coming face to face with Trump.

Are we looking at the biggest Presidential election landslide in the history of America? Who do you think is capable of taking of Trump, it doesn't matter the party? Because it seems Trump conquers everything and anything that stands in his way.

That is true, i watched those debates, and i also didn't see anyone who can endanger Trump. What i noticed though is that other candidates were mostly attacking Biden, and that makes me to believe that other candidates are more afraid of him than  the others.

Regarding the biggest landslide victory, i don't think that is realistic even if we count only modern presidential elections, let alone if we go back to 19th and early 20th century.Richard Nixon had very strong win in 1972, and i don't think that Trump will be capable of beating that, or even come close.But what i think he is capable of is repeating Obama result in 2008, and even beating that.
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I have watched all the Democratic Candidates with keen interest, trying to figure out if there is any serious contender who's capable of taking on Trump. Sadly, I have seen none. Not even close! All I see are confused set of crazy loons who doesn't even know what they are vying for. Some are so out of touch that they choose to go to Mexico to organize rallies.  Roll Eyes

Everyone of them focusing on Trump even though they haven't got close to winning their own party primary, let alone coming face to face with Trump.

Are we looking at the biggest Presidential election landslide in the history of America? Who do you think is capable of taking of Trump, it doesn't matter the party? Because it seems Trump conquers everything and anything that stands in his way.
I initially thought that Joe Biden would have been a great frontrunner who would be able to challenge Trump but it seems that even if he did win in the end, I am afraid that he wouldn't pose a great risk to Trump re-election into the white house. Bernie Sanders is however gathering steam just like he did during the last election, he has the ability to draw in the youth.

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I have watched all the Democratic Candidates with keen interest, trying to figure out if there is any serious contender who's capable of taking on Trump. Sadly, I have seen none. Not even close! All I see are confused set of crazy loons who doesn't even know what they are vying for. Some are so out of touch that they choose to go to Mexico to organize rallies.  Roll Eyes

Everyone of them focusing on Trump even though they haven't got close to winning their own party primary, let alone coming face to face with Trump.

Are we looking at the biggest Presidential election landslide in the history of America? Who do you think is capable of taking of Trump, it doesn't matter the party? Because it seems Trump conquers everything and anything that stands in his way.
I initially thought that Joe Biden would have been a great frontrunner who would be able to challenge Trump but it seems that even if he did win in the end, I am afraid that he wouldn't pose a great risk to Trump re-election into the white house. Bernie Sanders is however gathering steam just like he did during the last election, he has the ability to draw in the youth.

You know the saying "If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head." That explains his popularity among idealistic youth that are prone to pipe dreams like new green deal.
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August 23, 2019, 04:31:20 PM
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If there's a recession, any of them would at least have a chance.

Even absent a recession, I think Buttigieg or Sanders would have pretty high probabilities of winning. Buttigieg is really good at coming across as stable, which a ton of people have been missing with Trump, but he also comes across as honest, and he doesn't have much baggage. Sanders has a lot of credibility and passion, and he eats into a big chunk of Trump's base, though his policies may be too far left for the wider electorate.

No matter what you want to accomplish, overconfidence is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. That's how Hillary Clinton lost. Paths exist for anyone in the race to win against Trump, or for Trump to win against anyone, even if some paths are pretty unlikely.

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If there's a recession, any of them would at least have a chance.

Even absent a recession, I think Buttigieg or Sanders would have pretty high probabilities of winning. Buttigieg is really good at coming across as stable, which a ton of people have been missing with Trump, but he also comes across as honest, and he doesn't have much baggage. Sanders has a lot of credibility and passion, and he eats into a big chunk of Trump's base, though his policies may be too far left for the wider electorate.

No matter what you want to accomplish, overconfidence is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. That's how Hillary Clinton lost. Paths exist for anyone in the race to win against Trump, or for Trump to win against anyone, even if some paths are pretty unlikely.

Bernie Sanders lost any credibility in my eyes when he supported Hillary after she beat him in the presidential nomination race. I didn't  agree with him, but at least i respected his beliefs.

First democratic party screwed and derailed  Bernie with various false claims.After Hillary won nomination, he decided to support  her, despite the fact that he is fighting against people like her his whole political career. So he basically threw all of his ideals under the bus, for god knows what reason, so all he is talking now doesn't have any weight. If they didn't let him go against Trump when he actually had some chance of winning, no hell they will let him go now. Democratic party would rather have someone like Biden, no matter how bad as candidate he is.
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August 24, 2019, 05:00:47 PM
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If there's a recession, any of them would at least have a chance.

Even absent a recession, I think Buttigieg or Sanders would have pretty high probabilities of winning. Buttigieg is really good at coming across as stable, which a ton of people have been missing with Trump, but he also comes across as honest, and he doesn't have much baggage. Sanders has a lot of credibility and passion, and he eats into a big chunk of Trump's base, though his policies may be too far left for the wider electorate.

No matter what you want to accomplish, overconfidence is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. That's how Hillary Clinton lost. Paths exist for anyone in the race to win against Trump, or for Trump to win against anyone, even if some paths are pretty unlikely.

Bernie Sanders lost any credibility in my eyes when he supported Hillary after she beat him in the presidential nomination race. I didn't  agree with him, but at least i respected his beliefs.

First democratic party screwed and derailed  Bernie with various false claims.After Hillary won nomination, he decided to support  her, despite the fact that he is fighting against people like her his whole political career. So he basically threw all of his ideals under the bus, for god knows what reason, so all he is talking now doesn't have any weight. If they didn't let him go against Trump when he actually had some chance of winning, no hell they will let him go now. Democratic party would rather have someone like Biden, no matter how bad as candidate he is.

Bernie is simply using presidential candidacy to make some quick millions. He knew for sure he doesn't have any chance of ever becoming the president of the United States. He's never had any credibility, only appears to be credible in the eyes of people who don't know him.

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August 24, 2019, 05:36:53 PM
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I have watched all the Democratic Candidates with keen interest, trying to figure out if there is any serious contender who's capable of taking on Trump. Sadly, I have seen none. Not even close! All I see are confused set of crazy loons who doesn't even know what they are vying for. Some are so out of touch that they choose to go to Mexico to organize rallies.  Roll Eyes

Everyone of them focusing on Trump even though they haven't got close to winning their own party primary, let alone coming face to face with Trump.

Are we looking at the biggest Presidential election landslide in the history of America? Who do you think is capable of taking of Trump, it doesn't matter the party? Because it seems Trump conquers everything and anything that stands in his way.

I believe that there is a reason why they seem crazy.

Assume for a second that they are believing and operating from a perspective not American, but "world wide Socialist progressive."

That would be quite different than a perspective rooted in American towns, factories, schools, and people.

But then it all makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
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I think the only Candidate on the Democratic side that has a chance to win the presidency is Biden, he's the only one that can light up moderates (and enough of the base) to be able to win the office. But with that said, I think picking him after picking Clinton a year before is a slap in the face to the progressive side of the party that wants to give someone 'new' a chance in the party.

They're done with the cabal of people handpicked by the elites, they want a progressive. But I doubt any of the progressives have a chance anyway.




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August 26, 2019, 10:49:28 PM
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If there's a recession, any of them would at least have a chance.

Even absent a recession, I think Buttigieg or Sanders would have pretty high probabilities of winning. Buttigieg is really good at coming across as stable, which a ton of people have been missing with Trump, but he also comes across as honest, and he doesn't have much baggage. Sanders has a lot of credibility and passion, and he eats into a big chunk of Trump's base, though his policies may be too far left for the wider electorate.

No matter what you want to accomplish, overconfidence is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. That's how Hillary Clinton lost. Paths exist for anyone in the race to win against Trump, or for Trump to win against anyone, even if some paths are pretty unlikely.

My GF is closely blood related to Buttigeg and I have met a lot of his immediate family from where he is originally from but he is way too far left for us..
It's a shame but we aren't about to support him because we know him..

Trump is too far left for me too but is easily the lesser of evils so Trump 2020 for sure..

Buttigeg is a queer and flaunts it to his advantage with the libtards posting trash about transexual rights etc.. Gross..
Sanders is a flippin commie - enough said..

Ateast Trump got us some decent scotus judges and hopefully gets another one soon from RBG retiring or whatever..
I want someone stronger on the 2nd amendment than Trump though..

Trump is a centrist really but America is pretty centrist and I think Trump has done decent to keep our centrist country strong, but I am not centrist, i'm more anncap, but the USA isn't just going to go straight libertarian/anncap and we need to keep up our huge military or be destroyed at the first sign of weakness so I have to compromise my views for what's best for the current America..
We can never be small government libertarian isolationist because they would come attack us as soon as we let our guard down guaranteed..

IMO what we need is to keep the huge military because it is our only option to stay alive now, but they can leave us the F alone with their laws and cut the heck out of all welfare programs..

I like the dog eat dog darwinism the strong survive philosophy but good luck getting people to agree to let poor people starve to death and die on the streets now that we have fed baithed and housed them like babies for so long..
We are just too far gone already in that aspect to completely reverse it immediately..

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August 27, 2019, 03:35:11 AM
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It will be a landslide. But for the Democrats. Unless and until the dems are fool enough to nominate a overconfident person like Hillary, Trump doesn't stand a chance to win.

Remember, even with so much campaign and so called "silent majority", trump lost the popular vote, and won by swinging the three states with a mere of around 11000 votes.

I don't think blue will repeat the same mistake it did in 2016.

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If there's a recession, any of them would at least have a chance.

Even absent a recession, I think Buttigieg or Sanders would have pretty high probabilities of winning. Buttigieg is really good at coming across as stable, which a ton of people have been missing with Trump, but he also comes across as honest, and he doesn't have much baggage. Sanders has a lot of credibility and passion, and he eats into a big chunk of Trump's base, though his policies may be too far left for the wider electorate.

No matter what you want to accomplish, overconfidence is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. That's how Hillary Clinton lost. Paths exist for anyone in the race to win against Trump, or for Trump to win against anyone, even if some paths are pretty unlikely.

My GF is closely blood related to Buttigeg and I have met a lot of his immediate family from where he is originally from but he is way too far left for us..
It's a shame but we aren't about to support him because we know him..

Trump is too far left for me too but is easily the lesser of evils so Trump 2020 for sure..

Buttigeg is a queer and flaunts it to his advantage with the libtards posting trash about transexual rights etc.. Gross..
Sanders is a flippin commie - enough said..

Ateast Trump got us some decent scotus judges and hopefully gets another one soon from RBG retiring or whatever..
I want someone stronger on the 2nd amendment than Trump though..

Trump is a centrist really but America is pretty centrist and I think Trump has done decent to keep our centrist country strong, but I am not centrist, i'm more anncap, but the USA isn't just going to go straight libertarian/anncap and we need to keep up our huge military or be destroyed at the first sign of weakness so I have to compromise my views for what's best for the current America..
We can never be small government libertarian isolationist because they would come attack us as soon as we let our guard down guaranteed..

IMO what we need is to keep the huge military because it is our only option to stay alive now, but they can leave us the F alone with their laws and cut the heck out of all welfare programs..

I like the dog eat dog darwinism the strong survive philosophy but good luck getting people to agree to let poor people starve to death and die on the streets now that we have fed baithed and housed them like babies for so long..
We are just too far gone already in that aspect to completely reverse it immediately..

That's the problem with democrat candidates now, a lot of them simply went way too left for an average American to even think about giving them a vote. You have to be a bit more towards centre in order to get enough voters, leaning too much on either side is simply not good.

If United States  backs down and goes more for isolationism, don't have any doubts whether China or Russia will try to have more influence around the world.With all it's flaws, United States are light  years away  when compared to those 2 countries, so i would rather have them as the  only true superpower.If you don't believe me, ask people in eastern Europe that lived behind iron courtain for 45 years how was it there for them. Even eastern part of Germany still feels the effects of having soviets as bosses.
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August 27, 2019, 07:40:02 AM
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It will be a landslide. But for the Democrats. Unless and until the dems are fool enough to nominate a overconfident person like Hillary, Trump doesn't stand a chance to win.

Remember, even with so much campaign and so called "silent majority", trump lost the popular vote, and won by swinging the three states with a mere of around 11000 votes.

I don't think blue will repeat the same mistake it did in 2016.

Hillary got the 3million popular vote from California alone where illegals are allowed to vote. Where all sorts of voting malpractices goes on. That is not a good way to win. And don't forget the recent report about how Google shifted as much as 10million votes to Hillary. Neither should you forget the espionage against Trump's campaign.

If you don't see Trump winning in a landslide, you're simply not paying attentions. Try and attend one of Trump rallies near you and get enlightened. America is 100% behind the president for this 2020 election. Patriotic Americans, I'm not talking about the lost souls and those who are here to destroy the USA.

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It will be a landslide. But for the Democrats. Unless and until the dems are fool enough to nominate a overconfident person like Hillary, Trump doesn't stand a chance to win.

Remember, even with so much campaign and so called "silent majority", trump lost the popular vote, and won by swinging the three states with a mere of around 11000 votes.

I don't think blue will repeat the same mistake it did in 2016.

Hillary got the 3million popular vote from California alone where illegals are allowed to vote. Where all sorts of voting malpractices goes on. That is not a good way to win. And don't forget the recent report about how Google shifted as much as 10million votes to Hillary. Neither should you forget the espionage against Trump's campaign.

If you don't see Trump winning in a landslide, you're simply not paying attentions. Try and attend one of Trump rallies near you and get enlightened. America is 100% behind the president for this 2020 election. Patriotic Americans, I'm not talking about the lost souls and those who are here to destroy the USA.

Google did what? Lmao.

And yeah, when your candidate loses then you shout "illegal". Do you remember when trump tweeted about Obama that Obama is president elect even though he lost the popular vote? (Although after that, Obama won the popular vote as well lmao). So then, trump forgot about "illegal" votes?

Now that he won due to the electorate system, he is gonna validate it as the best system.

Now, don't forget that majority of the youth voters lean blue. And add the new number of young voters who are gonna vote for the first time this election.

Even Hillary's rallies had massive crowds. Guess what? She lost.

Have you ever seen a bigger hypocrite and a pathological liar than this :

When Obama won




But when it was him


How is it so hard to accept that he's an opportunist!?!

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August 27, 2019, 11:48:27 AM
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It will be a landslide. But for the Democrats. Unless and until the dems are fool enough to nominate a overconfident person like Hillary, Trump doesn't stand a chance to win.

Remember, even with so much campaign and so called "silent majority", trump lost the popular vote, and won by swinging the three states with a mere of around 11000 votes.

I don't think blue will repeat the same mistake it did in 2016.

Despite having basically all  mainstream media against him, celebrities claiming that they will leave the country if he wins, scaring people that United States will become some fascist state and all that hysteria, he still won.

Now everyone saw that no such thing happened, no celebrities moved, and everything is ok, democrats will have much harder job , people wont be so easily scared like last time. Therefore Trump will win more easily this time.
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How is it so hard to accept that he's an opportunist!?!


What's an opportunist? Someone who picks apples from a tree when there are apples to pick?
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August 27, 2019, 03:45:15 PM
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How is it so hard to accept that he's an opportunist!?!


What's an opportunist? Someone who picks apples from a tree when there are apples to pick?

No, an opportunist here would be someone claiming apples are evil and dangerous for health when their neighboor are selling apples and he's selling pears, but saying apples are delicious and make you live longer when he has apples to sell.

Amazing how Trumptards swallow whatever their god emperor order them to.

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How is it so hard to accept that he's an opportunist!?!


What's an opportunist? Someone who picks apples from a tree when there are apples to pick?

No, an opportunist here would be someone claiming apples are evil and dangerous for health when their neighboor are selling apples and he's selling pears, but saying apples are delicious and make you live longer when he has apples to sell.

Amazing how Trumptards swallow whatever their god emperor order them to.

Democrats are like the people that went down with the Titanic, except for one thing. Democrats can get off and walk away, but they would rather go down.

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August 30, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
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Biden has made another horrible gaffe, he's now made up a war star relating to Afghanistan and used it on the campaign trail. People picked up on the fact that it wasn't true, and that he had made it up.

CNN, by some chance has been able to turn this back on Trump -- check here --> https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/30/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-truth-2020-campaign/index.html

You can check here to find the full story on what Biden said. --> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/2019/08/29/b5159676-c9aa-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html




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August 30, 2019, 04:29:26 PM
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CNN, by some chance has been able to turn this back on Trump -- check here --> https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/30/politics/joe-biden-donald-trump-truth-2020-campaign/index.html

Ok, I don't like Trump.

But this is pure bullshit.

Biden says shit everyday and it's somehow Trump's fault?
What?

For god's sake you don't have to invent things to shoot at the guy so stop with that xD

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