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Skycity Aug 27, 2019 22:50 EDT This morning I found my BTC balance 0. But it must be 0.035 BTC on it (about 350 USD). What happened? I did not send anything or even accessed my BTC wallet. Please HELP. Greg (Blockchain) Aug 28, 10:13 EDT Hello, I'm very sorry to hear about this. You may have some type of malware on your computer that resulted in your funds being stolen because your private information was somehow obtained. One of the most common types of these are browser extensions posing as bitcoin price tickers that are actually stealing your account information. There's also the possibility that you visited a phishing site posing as Blockchain. We've also heard of computer viruses that detect when an address is in your clipboard, and replace the one you wanted to use with an address controlled by this malicious party. By design, Blockchain never has access to users' accounts or funds. If you keep your password and private key backups secure, then your funds are always safe with us. Since this information has been compromised, be sure to never use this wallet or any addresses contained within it. I'd also highly advise against using the same password again. I'm truly sorry that you had funds stolen from you. That certainly is an extremely frustrating experience. If you?d like to learn more about how our wallet works, please visit: https://www.blockchain.com/learning-portal/wallet-faq. Skycity Aug 28, 23:54 EDT Hello, None of what you mentioned really occured, it was probably a breach in your security system. And, yes, again as you mentioned, that certainly was an extremely frustrating experience. But what is more frustrating is that you hold no responsibility. I was totally sure that my funds would be safe with you, blockchain.com wallet was chosen, because I trusted you. But this is the point where trust ends. That was not my fault. My computer is always double-checked and secure, and I never visit phishing sites or extensions. Such response from you, no help or compensation offered from your side, makes it even more frustrating. I will never use again and will discourage other people to use your service. I am also going to make this situation and our conversation public. Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:13 PM
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Skycity Aug 27, 2019 22:50 EDT This morning I found my BTC balance 0. But it must be 0.035 BTC on it (about 350 USD). What happened? I did not send anything or even accessed my BTC wallet. Please HELP. Greg (Blockchain) Aug 28, 10:13 EDT Hello, I'm very sorry to hear about this. You may have some type of malware on your computer that resulted in your funds being stolen because your private information was somehow obtained. One of the most common types of these are browser extensions posing as bitcoin price tickers that are actually stealing your account information. There's also the possibility that you visited a phishing site posing as Blockchain. We've also heard of computer viruses that detect when an address is in your clipboard, and replace the one you wanted to use with an address controlled by this malicious party. By design, Blockchain never has access to users' accounts or funds. If you keep your password and private key backups secure, then your funds are always safe with us. Since this information has been compromised, be sure to never use this wallet or any addresses contained within it. I'd also highly advise against using the same password again. I'm truly sorry that you had funds stolen from you. That certainly is an extremely frustrating experience. If you?d like to learn more about how our wallet works, please visit: https://www.blockchain.com/learning-portal/wallet-faq. Skycity Aug 28, 23:54 EDT Hello, None of what you mentioned really occured, it was probably a breach in your security system. And, yes, again as you mentioned, that certainly was an extremely frustrating experience. But what is more frustrating is that you hold no responsibility. I was totally sure that my funds would be safe with you, blockchain.com wallet was chosen, because I trusted you. But this is the point where trust ends. That was not my fault. My computer is always double-checked and secure, and I never visit phishing sites or extensions. Such response from you, no help or compensation offered from your side, makes it even more frustrating. I will never use again and will discourage other people to use your service. I am also going to make this situation and our conversation public. skycity@usa.comSent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 5:13 PM Once the private key is in your hands you're responsible for the funds. Truly speaking someone might have known about your private keys and passwords. Myself too have experienced loss of funds from my blockchain wallet which happened due to my negligence of keeping private keys securely.
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Once the private key is in your hands you're responsible for the funds. Truly speaking someone might have known about your private keys and passwords. Myself too have experienced loss of funds from my blockchain wallet which happened due to my negligence of keeping private keys securely. [/quote]
If you carefully read my post, I always double-check and secure it, no one has access to my private keys or passwords. This is the case of the blockchain wallet security, please take some time to read similar posts, it happens these days on a regular basis.
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Once the private key is in your hands you're responsible for the funds. Truly speaking someone might have known about your private keys and passwords. Myself too have experienced loss of funds from my blockchain wallet which happened due to my negligence of keeping private keys securely.
If you carefully read my post, I always double-check and secure it, no one have access to my private keys or passwords. This is the case of the blockchain wallet security, please take some time to read similar posts, it happens these days on a regular basis. [/quote] I'm not talking in favour of blockchain.com, but however we cross check there are possible chances to miss the private keys and passwords. For me it happened in 2016, further I was very careful in handling my private keys and paawords. Till date haven't encountered any problems. You can trace the last transaction from your wallet and the corresponding ip, which might make it clear whether it has happened from your location.
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[/quote] I'm not talking in favour of blockchain.com, but however we cross check there are possible chances to miss the private keys and passwords. For me it happened in 2016, further I was very careful in handling my private keys and paawords. Till date haven't encountered any problems. You can trace the last transaction from your wallet and the corresponding ip, which might make it clear whether it has happened from your location. [/quote]
Thanks for your advise, do you know how to trace the IP from transaction or receiving wallet address?
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Thanks for your advise, do you know how to trace the IP from transaction or receiving wallet address?
Check your email, whenever you login or have new transactions from your blockchain account they usually send out notifications. The hacker can't get your private key because on blockchain's wallet they don't give out private keys anymore unless you've been using their wallet since the old version and your old addresses was imported.
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August 29, 2019, 05:52:53 AM |
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[/quote] Check your email, whenever you login or have new transactions from your blockchain account they usually send out notifications.
The hacker can't get your private key because on blockchain's wallet they don't give out private keys anymore unless you've been using their wallet since the old version and your old addresses was imported. [/quote]
Thank you, there was no email notification, and, right, they couldn't get my private keys, the true reason was blockchain.com security breach, which they never admit.
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Most of the lost funds in the wallet, it is very certain because of mistakes that we do not realize. because many methods of people who are not responsible for doing tricks so that people's funds can be taken in his wallet. clearly that the wallet is absolutely certain to be safe, now you only need to be introspected whether you have done anything unknowingly which resulted in funds being taken. some easy methods to do are: -Don't open email links that you don't recognize. -get used to opening that often do through bookmarks, do not manually through google because a lot of data that resembles.
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Yes it is most probalby due to the mistakes we ignore...We need to be bit more alert mygiftcardsite
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I really, really, really don't like any online wallet, exchange wallet, casino wallet,... Basically any wallet that doesn't make sure you're the only one in controll over your private keys, is open source and has a sufficient recovery scenario in case they ever dissapear is a big no-go for me...
So, in this case, i'm defenately NOT defending blockchain.info/com. However, i do urge you to see things from their perspective: how many emails do you think they get on a daily basis about people that have been hacked and try to blame them for their loss? I'm pretty sure 99,9% of those cases actually involve a user installing malware, falling for a phising attack or exposing their seed/private key/blockchain credentials. If a helpdesk employee gets 1000 complaints, and 999 of them are a PICNIC (problem in chair, not in computer) problem, it's pretty normal that he misses the 1 actual complaint.
That being said, blockchain has been around for a long time, never having met you, i'd also jump to the conclusion that the odds of you running a vulnerable system, having a malicious plugin, running a virus, having your credentials or seed phrase stolen somehow are larger than the odds of a vulnerability in blockchain's system. Mind you, i'm talking about odds, not certainty's... Like i said, i have never met you, i have no proof, i haven't seen anything about you => It's just statistically speaking from my rather lengthy experience in this community, i'd say the odds of the problem being on your side are bigger than the odds of the problem being on their side...
I try not to victim blame... It doesn't really matter if it was blockchain, a virus, a plugin, an OS vulnerabilitly... It was awefull for you to lose your funds, and it's defenately somebody else's fault (i'm not being sarcastic here!).
Anyways, it was a rather expensive lessen for you, i'd recommand to switch to a more secure wallet... Pop $100 and buy a hardware wallet. If not, take an old pc, remove the network card and install a cold (air gapped) wallet. Or learn about paper wallets (do be carefull, you need to take caution and follow the proper procedure to create one of those)
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August 29, 2019, 06:56:17 AM |
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I've used blockchain.com and there's a verification everytime I log in, it doesn't go directly to my wallet. Having that said about the notifications, there's an email notification before proceeding. Thank you, there was no email notification, and, right, they couldn't get my private keys, the true reason was blockchain.com security breach, which they never admit.
If you have checked it already and no notification has ever found. Did you looked at the other folders of your email? sometimes it's on spam folder and other unnecessary folders of our email. Otherwise, this is like the case that I've seen before that his funds were retrieved by someone although he's really technically aware of what he does and knows how to protect his funds including private keys, recovery phrases and login details.
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@bxmail can you tell us your bitcoin address, a transaction id, and a full story? it would be more helpful if you can share the story from the beginning about how you received the bitcoin, when you realize you lost it, and what you do with your computer during that time? did you just create the account recently? any information can help us figure out what happened to your bitcoin
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Check your email, whenever you login or have new transactions from your blockchain account they usually send out notifications.
The hacker can't get your private key because on blockchain's wallet they don't give out private keys anymore unless you've been using their wallet since the old version and your old addresses was imported.
Thank you, there was no email notification, and, right, they couldn't get my private keys, the true reason was blockchain.com security breach, which they never admit. Blockchain can't access your account, so it is unlikely that a security breach at Blockchain is the cause.
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I will never use again and will discourage other people to use your service.
Good. All the others said is correct: there's much bigger chance that your private key was "leaked" than something on their side. However, the first thing to do is to check your address(es) with another block explorer to make sure indeed your funds are gone and there's no other issue. About the "leak", there are a lot of ways to happen: from malware and key loggers to accessing a phishing site or storing the data in e-mail, cloud services, or somebody you know physically accessing (your computer/account, or the paper where it was written onto). As you can see, all are on your side (and against you) OP. But as started: good. Don't use online services to hold your money, especially if you don't believe in their safety (and blockchain.com is old, big and targeted by a lot of phishing). Use something safer. If you don't plan to spend, generate safely(!) a paper wallet and put your (next) bitcoins there. Or use a hardware wallet. Or use air-gaped cold storage, already an USB stick with Tails can do that if you make sure it'll never go online and read how to properly use cold storage.
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@bxmail can you tell us your bitcoin address, a transaction id, and a full story? it would be more helpful if you can share the story from the beginning about how you received the bitcoin, when you realize you lost it, and what you do with your computer during that time? did you just create the account recently? any information can help us figure out what happened to your bitcoin
My BTC address: 1FgpbfQ8nVMS523Btnyv3rxhF7YxtiEdr7 Created with blockchain.com 2 years ago. Funds received more than a year ago. It was safe during all period, I always paid much attention to security. The loss was realized yesterday, Aug 27, 2019 morning, I turned on computer, checked my e-mail as usual (again there was no notification from blockchain.com), before that, the computer was turned off all night. 2019-08-27 07:03:08 Amount: 0.035 BTC (350 USD) Transaction ID: 4d412c58ab3dba8a138557e41e9ace1c8b36ee3d44107a930c8f31f0198d2b93 Recipient address: 1PdXxtu8Laq773RXT5q5pp6qtaG3HvSw2r
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The hacker can't get your private key because on blockchain's wallet they don't give out private keys anymore unless you've been using their wallet since the old version and your old addresses was imported.
This is something new for me. Wasn't it good before? Everyone should have own their own private keys/seed. I can not remember when was the last time I used blockchain wallet but as a newbie it was very handy for me long ago. I hate Coinbase by the way. My BTC address: 1FgpbfQ8nVMS523Btnyv3rxhF7YxtiEdr7 Created with blockchain.com 2 years ago. Funds received more than a year ago. It was safe during all period, I always paid much attention to security. The loss was realized yesterday, Aug 27, 2019 morning, I turned on computer, checked my e-mail as usual (again there was no notification from blockchain.com), before that, the computer was turned off all night.
2019-08-27 07:03:08 Amount: 0.035 BTC (350 USD) Transaction ID: 4d412c58ab3dba8a138557e41e9ace1c8b36ee3d44107a930c8f31f0198d2b93 Recipient address: 1PdXxtu8Laq773RXT5q5pp6qtaG3HvSw2r
Your information was compromised for sure. I am afraid to tell you that, there are nothing much you can do now. This is the reason I do not use online hot wallets even I do not use a standard wallet for large percentage of my Bitcoins. I use 2/2 multiSig wallet. My suggestion is that - consider it as a lesson and move on. Sorry for your lose.
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August 29, 2019, 10:25:11 AM |
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This is one of the risks of having digital assets in crypto. You are very upset with losing your assets because if it is made money is also very decent. Actions like this sometimes we also don't realize because we feel that the private keys are stored securely.
This obviously becomes a lesson for you and provides information with other users. So for the future be more cautious in storing digital assets.
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A similar incident happened to me about a year ago and unfortunately I didn't get any help from Blockchain support. I mean, I'm sorry, but I don't think you can find a solution.
Still, think twice if there is a possibility that the private key may have been stolen!
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August 29, 2019, 10:46:29 AM |
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I've used blockchain.com and there's a verification everytime I log in, it doesn't go directly to my wallet. Having that said about the notifications, there's an email notification before proceeding. Thank you, there was no email notification, and, right, they couldn't get my private keys, the true reason was blockchain.com security breach, which they never admit.
If you have checked it already and no notification has ever found. Did you looked at the other folders of your email? sometimes it's on spam folder and other unnecessary folders of our email. Otherwise, this is like the case that I've seen before that his funds were retrieved by someone although he's really technically aware of what he does and knows how to protect his funds including private keys, recovery phrases and login details. They really have some issues, for example on one of my account, I was always unable to log in even after email verification, that was happening only on one wallet, others are still working fine. Also checking email has no idea, user had to gain access on email in order to log in on blockchain.com's website, so he would delete information. But there would be some issue from OP's side, if there is security breach on Blockchain.com then not only his but a lot, really a lot of wallets would be hacked, security breach can't get only one user's account into other's hands, breach gives access on some part of wallets. Hard case OP, can you think more deeply and remember, what happened? Did you install unknown antivirus? Pirate windows?
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August 29, 2019, 11:06:06 AM |
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I've been using an online wallet and I don't have a problem.
These kinds of sites have their own security, you can always connect your email, some have their 2FA, some even require a phone number and I am wondering how can someone access your wallet without you being notified of that. Two points to consider, it is either your fault or the sites fault but I don't think the site will just let someone use your balance without logging to your account.
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