Theymos vs Roger Ver (2:0)

[dkbit98]

Roger Ver posted new video regarding Bitcointalking forum
and moving this topic to Archival: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

Theymos is one of the worst things that happened to Bitcoin...

source video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU7343Ji8GI

 

I wonder what motives Ver has now
other than to promote his own 'liberal' forum and Bcash altcoin

I don't think Bitcointalk forum is some kind of Library that will keep all history of Bitcoin,
and that MemoryDealers post should never be moved to Archival section.




Maybe it has something to do with issues of his own Games gambling website being accused of SCAM
as you can see on multiple Scam topics:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179906.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173010.0

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[LeGaulois]

Topic Roger Ver is talking about in the video
Archival > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

But a topic is still here
Trading Discussion (Moderator: Cyrus) > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93110.msg1027941#msg1027941


The archived topic comes from the Russian forum. This man takes any opportunity to talk bad about BTC or BTC related stuff

Maybe it has something to do with issues of his own Games gambling website being accused of SCAM

No mate, this is Roger Ver lifestyle (misleading people, lying, posting fake pictures, fake events,...)

[theymos]

What really happened was that in 2012 he posted his Bitcoinica topic twice: once mistakenly in the Russian section, and once in the proper section. Then recently a Russian user happened to stumble across the Russian duplicate for some reason, reported it as non-Russian-language, and a Russian mod archived it. The real topic with replies was never touched. You can verify all of this with archive.org if you want.

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

[dkbit98]

He posted this link on his video description: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it),

I think he is  

[BCTinLOO]

He posted this link on his video description: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

https://i.imgur.com/eewEwv2.png

Another misdirection from him as usual. I think he knew it was the wrong one that moved to archive section and the right one is still there.

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

He is paranoid because he is seeing his BCH hashpower is dropping, very less people cares about it. He needed something so that he can tell people to buy his shit. If you noticed in the video he was asking people to join his BCH community and buy his shit. And not to mention, he was asking to subscribe his channel of 30k subscribers. He is a cheapshit. A misdirection in the Bitcoin community who cared only about his personal gain. Fuck this guy.

[Security Engineer]

He posted this link on his video description: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

https://i.imgur.com/eewEwv2.png

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it),

I think he is  

Hacker, Tihan,  Zhou,  Patrick, Donald, Amir, or anyone else with access to my money,  please return it to
###################

so that I can continue to effectively promote Bitcoin.

Return it to me, so that I can promote free speech, human rights, animal rights, stop climate change etc...

[malevolent]

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

He spends long enough time in his bubble that I'm inclined to say he's become out of touch with the world around him. /r/btc sometimes reads like /r/conspiracy.

[mikeywith]

Roger Ver is addicted to conspiracy theories , I remember watching a debate between him and Charlie Lee and I felt so bad for Roger that he has gone way too far with his bullshit, he someway thinks that even the simple matter of mathematics (Bcash Hardfork) was somehow manipulated by what he refers to as "Core Team", while I don't disagree with everything he says, it is always safe to assume that whatever shit he says is only meant to damage Bitcoin,and he spare no effort in doing so, and here is a an example of his last post (off-topic) on a scam accusation against " Bitcoin Games"

In regards to Bitcoin Cash, it clearly has more Bitcoin-ness about it than the BTC version of Bitcoin does.

[Security Engineer]

Roger Ver is addicted to conspiracy theories , I remember watching a debate between him and Charlie Lee and I felt so bad for Roger that he has gone way too far with his bullshit, he someway thinks that even the simple matter of mathematics (Bcash Hardfork) was somehow manipulated by what he refers to as "Core Team", while I don't disagree with everything he says, it is always safe to assume that whatever shit he says is only meant to damage Bitcoin,and he spare no effort in doing so, and here is a an example of his last post (off-topic) on a scam accusation against " Bitcoin Games"

In regards to Bitcoin Cash, it clearly has more Bitcoin-ness about it than the BTC version of Bitcoin does.

I'm addicted for scanning the entire Internet.   Super fun.... Maybe this Roger guy owns the domain BITCOINTROLL.ORG

[libert19]

He's just trying to stay relevant, without his dramas he is nothing and he knows it very well.

Next time he will create satoshi.bitcoin.com  

This domain name is already taken.

[Quickseller]

There are archives of the thread with replies going back to 2014 and the thread that was in the Russia sub from over a month ago.

It is kinda embarrassing how he put in so little effort into verify such a bold claim. Perhaps theymos should demand a retraction and he’ll have to pull a Lawrence O’Donnell and issue a retraction a day later.

I do support a lot of the same things that Ver is trying to support, such as free speech and free markets, even if I don’t support everything he says, does or supports.

[hd49728]

After running his campaign to fork bitcoin and get shit Bitcoin Cash, I think now is a very good time for him to run another campaign to ask for community support and fork Bitcointalk.org forum. Unfortunately, I don't think there are significant users here support his coming forked forum, from our beloved forum.

[Tytanowy Janusz]

other than to promote his own 'liberal' forum and Bcash altcoin

Bcash altcoin. That's correct name! Nice that more and more people are using it

Let's insult more this person who is "never wrong only because he is self made millionaire".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI

BTW Did you guys know that he was an Advisor of Azbit - shitcoin that was struggling to reach sofltcap (9 000 000$) for around a year (ICO, extended ICO, extended ICO, IEO, another round of ICO, next IEO)? That's how insignificant his name is for investors.

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it),

I think he is  

I think he exactly knows that it is a lie but he is so desperate for attention that he don't care. He knows that 90% people are too lazy to check if it's true. That 90% is enough for him.

9 out of 10 Americans don't fact-check information they read on social media

[Jet Cash]

Bitcoin is a unique product, and I don't believe there will ever be another virtual product to compete with it as a store of wealth. Many other products will appear, and they may be better and more fit for various other purposes, but I don't believe Bitcoin will ever have another rival as a decentralised store of wealth. I really wish that all these guys who create alternative products would accept that their creations can never compete with Bitcoin. I'm sure there will be many products that will provide better payment services, but they will not provide a secure store of wealth in my opinion.

[TheUltraElite]

Btrash drama queen will never give up with his manhood being small and so he had create something to stand out in the crowd and even go to the extent of lying to people about what bTrash was and how it was the original than bitcoin "core". I guess some people never learn to come out from their 12-year old brains of fairytales and dreamlands about being king of the world and the good example of this is RVer.

He promotes bTrash by using his own money and even gives it out for free at conferences. Just a lobbyist who should be ignored with his propaganda. But I feel the community needs to understand and take their own decisions about what to follow and whom to follow based on past records and proper information.

[Steamtyme]

Well that makes 2 Roger Ver videos I've watched in 2 days, and they just feel like watching one of those Cringy scenes from "The Office"; Prison Mike style. 

I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

I believe you should change your title to "totalitarian censorship promoting tyrant". While ambitious I feel it falls well within the troll wheelhouse. It might even make him feel better he is deeply concerned this will taint or misinform people about the history of Bitcoin.

[TheNewAnon135246]

other than to promote his own 'liberal' forum and Bcash altcoin

Bcash altcoin. That's correct name! Nice that more and more people are using it

Let's insult more this person who is never wrong only because he is self made millionaire.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI

BTW Did you guys know that he was an Advisor of Azbit - shitcoin that was struggling to reach sofltcap (9 000 000$) for around a year (ICO, extended ICO, extended ICO, IEO, another round of ICO, next IEO)? That's how insignificant his name is for investors.

I love that video.

*flips someone off*

> Post this video so people can see how rude you are to me.

.

[dkbit98]

Well that makes 2 Roger Ver videos I've watched in 2 days, and they just feel like watching one of those Cringy scenes from "The Office"; Prison Mike style.  

I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

I believe you should change your title to "totalitarian censorship promoting tyrant". While ambitious I feel it falls well within the troll wheelhouse. It might even make him feel better he is deeply concerned this will taint or misinform people about the history of Bitcoin.

After being a member of Bitcointalk forum for 8 years, Roger still does not know how to use it.... very sad

I wanted to add this "totalitarian censorship promoting tyrant" in post....BUT it was so long, boring and Sci-fi and I gave up.

I guess Roger is Theymos arch nemesis, and he is total opposite: 'untotalitarian censorship-free non-promoting democratic super-hero'  

Classical villain vs superhero story,
General Zod vs Superman story aka Theymos vs Roger

[TheNewAnon135246]

Roger has become completely irrelevant outside his own echo box so I wouldn't call him an 'arch nemesis'. More like an annoying chihuahua who continiously humps people's legs.

BuT i'M a SeLf MaDe MilLioNaIrE!

[dkbit98]

And now the infection is spreading:
https://www.cryptonewsz.com/roger-ver-alleges-theymos-behind-the-deletion-of-bitcoin-history/39619/

[TMAN]

CH/TAA reminds me of Ver, shouting and screaming the same shit that no one cares about.

twat

[Jet Cash]

Well there is no such thing as bad publicity, and hopefully all this stupidity will increase awareness of Bitcoin Talk, and maybe we will get an increase in membership. Maybe Theymos could create a history board - Oh Wait! isn't that the archive.

[dkbit98]

Well there is no such thing as bad publicity, and hopefully all this stupidity will increase awareness of Bitcoin Talk, and maybe we will get an increase in membership. Maybe Theymos could create a history board - Oh Wait! isn't that the archive.

Ver is not doing anything before thinking good...just remember his Mt.Gox video publicity    

[ChiBitCTy]

I’m no computer programming genius by a long shot, but isn’t that kind of an embarrassing situation for Ver that he left his coins on an exchange/online wallet to be hacked ? I mean the Bcash community follows him like a cult follows their leader. Not sure I’d be following someone who didn’t have the foresight to know better..can’t see a Mr Robot/Satoshi type ever making a mistake like this.

[dkbit98]

https://cryptoslate.com/nobody-seems-to-trust-roger-vers-newly-announced-cryptocurrency-exchange/

[AB de Royse777]

Bitcoin Cash as it is the platform that promotes free speech and transparency

https://www.cryptonewsz.com/roger-ver-alleges-theymos-behind-the-deletion-of-bitcoin-history/39619/

Do they even have few hundreds active users?

This stupid gone mad lately. Someone please show him that he was not talking about the correct thread. Also tell him that he has short term memory problem. His memory is not serving that he made the same post twice and one was in the wrong section.

“Roger Ver is a scammer and a fraud! No, it will not be safe and I will not use it,”

https://cryptoslate.com/nobody-seems-to-trust-roger-vers-newly-announced-cryptocurrency-exchange/

This explains everything :-D

[dkbit98]

Hahaha  here is 'El Peligroso' again  on CoinTelegraph  
Lets see if he will mention Bitcointalk forum again....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bBzdsdLTU


EDIT:
Nope.
But he did say he will be back promoting BTC if developers increase block size...

[eddie13]

I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

Based

[Initscri]

I used to be a fan of Roger back in the day TBH. But honestly, this is just stupidity in it's prime. He should have realized by now that the original thread was still avail, at the very least before posting a 7 minute video about it.

The threads started by user link takes a whole, what, 4 clicks to get to...

[dkbit98]

I did small test and register on his 'liberal freedom forum',
it looks dead with no active users at all, and it is 100 times more restrictive than Bitcointalk forum.

I can't even type simple bitcoin.com in any post...
idk maybe it's a scam or they are bombarded with spam.

Place is like an empty desert... so I don't know why he is calling people to join there.
I wanted to talk with Roger, as he is not active here anymore.

[LTU_btc]

Wow, and this is best what he can. When I watched video I thought that he will have some arguments which may look valid. But everything what I found is just fake news at it's finest. But actually, Ver knows how to spread propaganda. Just look at comments under video - some people blindly believe what Ver are saying. And as we can see in link posted by user above, these fake news is spreading over the internet...

[dkbit98]

Wow, and this is best what he can. When I watched video I thought that he will have some arguments which may look valid. But everything what I found is just fake news at it's finest. But actually, Ver knows how to spread propaganda. Just look at comments under video - some people blindly believe what Ver are saying. And as we can see in link posted by user above, these fake news is spreading over the internet...

Yes, I know and I saw this
That is why I created this Topic, and I even went so far and visited his sanatorium forum,
but I found no Ver and nobody else...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

/r/btc sometimes reads like /r/conspiracy.

I'll have to take your word for it, as I don't think I've ever visited that particular subreddit--Reddit sucks, IMO, and I'm glad Satoshi and the early bitcoiners created this forum instead of clinging to Reddit. 

I've only seen a couple of videos of Roger Ver, but he seems like a crazy person to me.  Not sure what his real beef is with bitcointalk, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was conspiracy theory-based.  He moved on to BCH if I understand correctly (I don't follow the big names in crypto), so it's also not shocking that he'd diss Theymos and the forum.  It isn't like any arrows he shoots in this direction are going to have any sort of effect.  Traffic here is probably as high as it's ever been.

[Last of the V8s]

... little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

Sad to read this, and it seems an unfair self-appraisal. Look at all you've achieved.

[hilariousetc]

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

This sort of pettiness can make intelligent people look like children. When somebody feels wronged by something its very easy for them to think they're being victimised and look towards a conspiracy when in reality the truth is far more logical. If he took a minute to even think about this or do some research he would likely realise that there's likely nothing to complain about but that doesn't suit his agenda, and that's what conspiracy theorists do. They're not really interested in facts or doing any actual research just anything that might tenuously support their beliefs or victim-hood. He obviously flew off the handle and just sees this as another way to have a whinge about someone who he feels has it out for him but the truth isn't sexy and wouldn't do anything for him so it's irrelevant.

[AdolfinWolf]

The comments under that youtube video are pretty worrisome.



 

This sort of pettiness can make intelligent people look like children. When somebody feels wronged by something its very easy for them to think they're being victimised and look towards a conspiracy when in reality the truth is far more logical. If he took a minute to even think about this or do some research he would likely realise that there's likely nothing to complain about but that doesn't suit his agenda, and that's what conspiracy theorists do. They're not really interested in facts or doing any actual research just anything that might tenuously support their beliefs or victim-hood. He obviously flew off the handle and just sees this as another way to have a whinge about someone who he feels has it out for him but the truth isn't sexy and wouldn't do anything for him so it's irrelevant.

I agree. It's obvious he has been inserting conspiracy theories and controversial shit wherever possible for a long time now, considering that's where he gets his traffic and following from-- Other complete nutjobs who believe everything is a giant conspiracy, or those who seem him as some sort messias steering the right path through other "conspiracies".

There's no way you can convince these people in the comments otherwise, unfortunately. They either have a vested interest in sharing these conspiracy theories with him (BCash bag holders), or see him as the guy who's going against the mainstream. It's really becoming cult-like as in facts don't matter at all anymore. His following seems to eat up this misinformation like crazy.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Roger's focus is on slandering Bitcoin, he should spend time marketing his altcoin instead. Seeing a lot of arguing between devs/community members on r/btc lately. Capitulation is close!

[Smokey23]

Theymos is going to be a celebrity soon!

[dkbit98]

Theymos is going to be a celebrity soon!

I don't think he will release TheymosCash or Tcash to compete with Bcash any time soon...

Here is Roger's NEW video related with his war against Theymos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxqg48sIs4I

shame on you Theymos...

[DdmrDdmr]

Carrot and stick in the latest video: He apologized twice to @theymos, only to dwell on Bitcointalk censorship within the same breath on each of the occasions. Anyhow, it seems that is was Google’s fault for making him jump to conclusions about the (non) deleted thread …

Of course, if you delimit the Google search with the site (site:https://bitcointalk.org "A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC"), then both threads appear (as they do even using the forum’s search feature).

[hilariousetc]

Here is Roger's NEW video related with his war against Theymos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxqg48sIs4I

shame on you Theymos...

Well at least he was man enough to apologise so I'll give him that. The censorship argument though is still biased and based on victim mentality. It's like how people complain here that they'e being censored because they've had their ref link or undeleted bump removed. They just take it personally and are not willing to see it from the other side. Bitcoin Cash isn't being censored here, or it if is I never got the memo. Just all talk of it is moved to the alt coin section because that's what theymos and many others believe it to be. He obviously doesn't but it's also obviously not the original bitcoin as much as Ver claims it to be in the original vision of.

[The-One-Above-All]

Here is Roger's NEW video related with his war against Theymos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxqg48sIs4I

shame on you Theymos...

Well at least he was man enough to apologise so I'll give him that. The censorship argument though is still biased and based on victim mentality. It's like how people complain here that they'e being censored because they've had their ref link or undeleted bump removed. They just take it personally and are not willing to see it from the other side. Bitcoin Cash isn't being censored here, or it if is I never got the memo. Just all talk of it is moved to the alt coin section because that's what theymos and many others believe it to be. He obviously doesn't but it's also obviously not the original bitcoin as much as Ver claims it to be in the original vision of.

Since the intelligent reader will realize that the lemmings, ass licking dregs on meta will say anything for favor from theymos then they could be right to be wanting to hear from someone that actually does not shy away from expressing how things REALLY ARE HERE. Your wait is over.

Ver vs theymos in this instance theymos wins for sure. Seems a non issue after a little investigation.

As a person theymos seems to be the better man in terms of attempting to be fair and not directly supporting scam projects also like ver does. I don't refer to bch (although we don't follow that one much as we prefer to stick with btc)  in this case but other ones he has backed that are clearly scammy even after being called on it.


However, your final point hilarious weasel (like most of your points  is garbage). The moderation here is PROVABLY bias and corrupt. So we can not be sure if he is over reacting or this is not an isolated incident. Whether theymos realizes or cares is another matter. You though are a piece of shit hilarious and co and give merit to posts that are clearly off topic and derailing. You also refuse to delete posts that blurt out things like " who made this cunt bleed" or "shut up you used tampon"  with no supporting argument nor anything else, these are just one line vents with zero value. So VER may have been at the rough end of your bias moderation many times before and could be forgiven for naturally assuming this was just another example of it. Hence explaining the over-reaction.

Theymos vs ver = yes theymos is certainly more trustworthy on a personal level

This boards moderation vs Ver's complaint = VER could have been a long suffering victim of this boards bias moderation previously so could be excused for having an outburst over something that when analysed was not as bad as he assumed.

You need to clean up your act here else we will see you cast a scam facilitator and CORRECTLY SO. You can not remove posts that are on topic and relevant and then merit posts from people that admit they have not read the OP and just spam it FUCK OFF TROLL or other one liner empty insults that fail when challenged to provide substance to their claims. There is also the case of you INCLUDING on DT observable scammers. You are not fit to be a moderator here or anywhere you sig spamming weasel. You go around meriting posts that are observably incorrect and when challenged on their claims run away. Like you did when we challenged you to present OUR RUBBISH POSTS you just then said I can believe they are rubbish if I want, but did not dare bring one so we could analyse it did you? You will not find ONE SINGLE post where our central point has been debunked and yet you keep giving merit to posts that just blurt out (after they admit they never read our posts) "stop feeding the troll" - this is a clear attempt to derail and not sensibly contribute to the thread at all. We report for deletion YOU FUCKING REFUSE AND THEN GIVE IT MERIT YOU CORRUPT PIECE OF SHIT.

Theymos needs to get a grip on this board. Sure you may be fair and honest yourself. However if you are going to allow other people that are PROVEN SCAMMERS to be on your trust system and give red trust to members that have ZERO instances of financially motivated wrongdoing AT ALL just because they whistle blew on them .. AND if you are going to sit there and let your moderators give merit to posts that are blatant low value off topic groundless spam, and refuse to delete when reported one liner post that say " Who made this cunt bleed"  " you are a used tampon".

Then theymos you are actually allowing the board to be turned into an echo chamber and VER will have a point.

Read this entire post. If you can debunk any of this then bring your arguments. Do not scream troll, spam, lies, or just delete it. Ver may have been subjected to hilarious and co like moderation in the past so is super touchy about it.  Theymos may well be honest himself, may well want free speech here himself but if he is allowing his sig spamming scammer supporting Moderators to act as we have DEMONSTRATED CLEARLY they are acting then THEYMOS could be argued himself is allowing just the type of censorship that VER is claiming takes place here.

This is NOT a joke. Ver is wrong or over stating the malice ..on this single instance but is totally correct about the boards lack of free speech now on some aspects or members ...theymos may not be corrupt himself but allows (by doing nothing about it) this place to be turned into an echo chamber favoring scammers and other financially dangerous scum.

We see Theymos is trying to sort it out and we strongly support his new flagging system (this demonstrates theymos is not corrupt himself for sure) but Theymos needs to wake up here and analyse what is happening with the moderation and the decentralized systems of control that have slipped in under admin.

I see a lot of people complaining about moderation here being very one sided - that is NOT a complain you want people to have clear evidence to PROVE IS TRUE.

Start waking up a little more theymos. The trust system improvements ie flagging is a good step. Now tackle the mods. We have given you CLEAR examples of corrupt and bias moderation. We had been pointing out mods should not be including proven scammers on DT for a while. Start acting on it and supporting the platform of free speech where all members are treated equally and given fair chance to express themselves if they substantiate it with reasonable and verifiable evidence. OR this board will slowly creep into PIT where satioshi would be unhappy with.

Get rid of any mod demonstrating clear corruption. Get rid of any DT /MS with any instances of observable financially motivated wrong doing. How hard can this be?

All rules must be transparent and applied equally to all members. Anything else is not a conspiracy theory hilarious weasel. Now get to my other thread and defend your actions you scumbag hiding away in here. You are terrified we will pull your actions to pieces.

TLDR


Theymos vs  VER = theymos more honest personally and would we would take what he personally posts with more faith that vers. (except advice on how to design systems of control perhaps)

VER vs Bitcointalk cencorship =  Ver very well may have a point right now. We still have very good standards of free speech here over many aspects but if you question the observable actions of some DTs or moderator members you may find your posts vanishing, and you may find one liner insults  that are groundless being merited by moderators. Let's fix this so people can not criticize this great forum and substantiate their claims with observable instances.

You have maybe 25 people on this board ruining it for all the others.  Get rid of them. Their effect is felt over the entire board. Our fighting them and fighting for fair and transparent rules for all members disrupts a couple of threads on shitty meta board... this is not counter productive this is helpful. This board is the best forum on the net and we need to stop these self serving scum bags casting a shadow over the entire board.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Literary diarrhea

Waiting for Suchmoon's cliff notes.

On topic: Roger has a huge victim mentality. He loses pointing fingers at others and starts whining once someone points a finger at him.

[dkbit98]

VER vs Bitcointalk cencorship =  Ver very well may have a point right now. We still have very good standards of free speech here over many aspects but if you question the observable actions of some DTs or moderator members you may find your posts vanishing, and you may find one liner insults  that are groundless being merited by moderators. Let's fix this so people can not criticize this great forum and substantiate their claims with observable instances.

Compared to VerForum
Bitcointalk is a paradise.

There you can't even write Bitcoin.com inside post...
If you don't believe me then try it yourself  

VerForum is like Phantom Zone
from Superman universe

[malevolent]

Well at least he was man enough to apologise so I'll give him that. The censorship argument though is still biased and based on victim mentality. It's like how people complain here that they'e being censored because they've had their ref link or undeleted bump removed. They just take it personally and are not willing to see it from the other side. Bitcoin Cash isn't being censored here, or it if is I never got the memo. Just all talk of it is moved to the alt coin section because that's what theymos and many others believe it to be. He obviously doesn't but it's also obviously not the original bitcoin as much as Ver claims it to be in the original vision of.

The censorship argument comes from the fact that theymos is in charge both /r/bitcoin and bitcointalk.org, and the former is heavily moderated, so bcash fans largely congregating on /r/btc assume this forum is equally heavily moderated.

[The-One-Above-All]

VER vs Bitcointalk cencorship =  Ver very well may have a point right now. We still have very good standards of free speech here over many aspects but if you question the observable actions of some DTs or moderator members you may find your posts vanishing, and you may find one liner insults  that are groundless being merited by moderators. Let's fix this so people can not criticize this great forum and substantiate their claims with observable instances.

Compared to VerForum
Bitcointalk is a paradise.

There you can't even write Bitcoin.com inside post...
If you don't believe me then try it yourself  

VerForum is like Phantom Zone
from Superman universe

As we said this place is great until you want to bring up some observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing by DT members. Try that and see if you get away with out a ton of scam tags screaming you are a defamer and scammer. You say you can't give me a scam tag for presenting FACTS in the history that anyone can verify

THEY WILL SAY

"I CAN I WILL AND I JUST HAVE"

this is from a confirmed and documented auction scammer who supports a proven scammer who was caught red handed denying the project he held bags of tokens for was premined/instamined and he knew this because he was on the POW launch. It is accepted and documented FACT that it took place, there is strong case for him extorting people and a shady escrow to his name that many believe was for a small fortune.

You mention any of it and you will get a scam tag and THEYMOS allows this to happen and says if you whistleblow on observable financially high risk DT members - you MAY have a case for saying this is wrong, but now you got angry about being trust abused by proven scammers that means you are CRAZY so therefore there is some mental gymnastics that say although you have been here years, done one trade (successful) and never attempted any others, fought the largest scams and won a 2 000 000 000 USD airdrop compensation offer to the board and made many people rich from presenting your trading advice for which they have been publicly grateful. That even so.. because you got angry the same scammers you fought and defeated to induce a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer have BRANDED ALL YOUR THREADS AS ONES STARTED BY A SCAMMER... now you are actually a scammer yourself?  errrr okay theymos

What about them the real scammers those with observable instances of financially motivated wrongdoing ? well Theymos says, I will talk to OG and other members and work things out so any scam tags the REAL SCAMMERS have on them can be taken away so there is no more fighting. Fighting is counter productive.

Only because people Theymos is familiar with OG, lauda, Vod and other meta board people were effected did he bring forth the much needed flagging system. Theymos does not care about other members not from meta board in our opinion because he does not hear about it and can get back to watching tv.

You don't have to be dishonest or against free speech yourself when you are running a forum to indirectly allow an environment that crushes free speech. If you want to be warden of this board you need to ensure you are keeping an eye on things like this and not allow a 2 tier system to spring up where rules only apply to "some people".

This is a very important movement taking place and this is the center of it. You don't want a censored ANTI SATOSHI  2tier system springing up at the center. Fair transparent rules FOR ALL MEMBERS. If best efforts are not taking place to ensure this then for sure ROGER VER and anyone else can start saying Theymos is responsible for it since he is the warden of this board. That is why it is VERY IMPORTANT that theymos stamps out any corruption or double standards as soon as he sees them. Not just say oh its a few red marks on their account what's the big deal, or a few deletes here and there. Stop squabbling and being counter productive.

Clear double standard from mod or system controller = Last warning before perm expulsion.

Clear scamming or financial wrong doing from anyone in the trust system = Out and perm ban

no sweeping it under the carper or roger ver can not be denied to having a point, whether theymos is directly or indirectly involved.

We support theymos as a person and believe he is honest and want the best for the forum. FOR SURE WHY WOULD HE NOT
We don't support the "oh it will sort itself out" "oh what you're and auction scammer and observable imbecile - sure DT and merit source for you",  " what you have never scammed anyone and have no observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing  but scammers gave you a scam tag.... shut up with your boring long winded moaning "

Wake up , Man up and get rid of the censorship on this board in terms of dirty corrupt moderators and scamming untrustworthy DT members and their weak ass supporters....this is all a form of censorship if you allow them to have power to damage other persons accounts and put notices on the top of their threads saying THIS THREAD STARTED IS A SCAMMER.... you are censoring their entire output here and years of their hard work.


Let's get on with it. So people like VER say hey theymos board is censoring me and deleting my posts. We can say NOT TRUE unless you broke the rules that apply to ALL MEMBERS if you stay within the rules your post was 100% NOT DELETED AND NOT CENSORED. We can not say that right now.

You can say what you like with a negative trust score but you will be censored because

1/ people will fear saying or asking certain things (even if they are true) because they don't want red trust
2. People will be  also be ignored (just because they spoke the truth) as they have big scam sign on their account. Who bothers to read what they have to say after that is on the top.

This is wrong.

We are STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THEYMOS HIMSELF because he seems to be the best person for this type of movement in that he does not seem greedy or dishonest and does support free speech.

However he is NOT perfect. He needs to man up and get rid of the corrupt and observably financially dangerous scum bags here. They are the censorship because you allowed them (as selfish , greedy and corrupt people do if you don't keep an eye on them) to gain a lot of power and influence here.

Theymos also does not like to debate. Especially if you start demonstrating his initial assumption (based on lack of bothering to examine evidence) is either wrong or certainly not accurate. He just vanishes and that's that.

So theymos 8/10  - ten for intentions being good , but room for implementational improvement for sure.

Ver appears to be more difficult to gage but seems willing to back scams - this we can not support in anyway. Especially when this was made clear and there were threads about those projects some from one of the best scam hunters here Bruno. If he was unaware before that is a possibility.

TLDR??

You don't have to directly censor yourself to be responsible for censorship. That is theymos's current issue. He needs to get on top of it.
Overall we think you can trust theymos on a personal level for sure.

If ver is allowing censorship then he is again open to criticism. Although why you can not mention the domain he owns is confusing. We have not used his forum and do not intend to. This is the prime forum for crypto and should remain so. That is why we need to make it a non hostile environment. We can only do that if if it is provably a fair and open environment where rules are applied equally to all members.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I do agree that the bitcoin reddit is super moderated, it is ridiculous, don't use reddit anymore if you care about freedom of speech.

Lot of you guys talking shit about bitcoin cash but its still in the top 5 and ahead of ltc.

Without moderation r/bitcoin would be infested by idiots who consider an altcoin to be Bitcoin.

[dkbit98]

Roger is back with his new video...
Lightning Network vs Bcash Statistics Battle on Twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MPaYLfwsus

[shahzadafzal]

Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me

wait a minute... well I know Wikipedia isn't trusted source but still "he sold explosive on eBay"

[malevolent]

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

[dkbit98]

I don't believe him very much...
but he committed a crime and confessed it.

'I sold my Lamborgini to buy Bitcoin, and I sold my Bitcoin to buy Bcash...'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x21hs3qNi0A

yeah right...
Now he is creating mini-series of himself as selfmade millionaire ... 

[Bill Gates]

I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

A multi-millionaire, or probably a billionaire, with zero personal ambition!

Welcome to Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

[1Referee]

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

If that's the story as it is, then sure, it's indeed excessive, but the problem with Roger is that he is always hiding something. The very fact that he is willing to go very far in order to get things done just doesn't sit well with me. It's not just on the edge of being illegal, but mostly well over it. It all comes down to his state of mind as he is a very emotional person.

But then again, we are somewhat programmed to only see bad in him after the split. I remember the good times where I actually looked up to him for everything he did for Bitcoin. He ruined it for himself.

[malevolent]

I remember the good times where I actually looked up to him for everything he did for Bitcoin. He ruined it for himself.

Same here, I also used to like him, even if labeling him 'Bitcoin Jesus' was a bit too much for me. The sad thing is, because he's so strongly invested in promoting BCH/trashing BTC, he's unlikely to change his course anytime soon even if doubt starts creeping into his mind, just think of all the bagholders when the price crashes if Roger Ver decides to abandon bcash.

[rosezionjohn]

This may be off-topic but I just saw his account back again

If someone buys BTC thinking it is "Bitcoin, a peer to peer electronic cash system" they are being scammed. 

[dkbit98]

This may be off-topic but I just saw his account back again

If someone buys BTC thinking it is "Bitcoin, a peer to peer electronic cash system" they are being scammed.  

His own 'liberal' bcash forum is dead and has no activity at all,
so he needs to come back here and post his anti-theymos and anti-btc stuff.

And he was a cool guy once upon a time...

[suchmoon]

This may be off-topic but I just saw his account back again

He's just trolling now, that's all he can do here.

[TheNewAnon135246]

All he does is repeat the whitepaper title over and over again. Sad thing is, he doesn't even understand (or wants to understand) what 'electronic cash' truely means.

[Welsh]

I'm convinced that he uses these sorts of conspiracy theories to keep himself relevant these days. Shame cause he could have been an inspirational authority within the Bitcoin space if he played his cards right. Instead, he makes bold accusations to keep himself relevant.

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

Yeah, its ridiculous sometimes the length people will go to tarnish someone's name. Without knowing the ins, and outs of the listing if it was as innocent as listing firecrackers seems it would be a moderation issue with Ebay for breaking TOS rather than being labelled as selling explosives.

[JollyGood]

I'm convinced that he uses these sorts of conspiracy theories to keep himself relevant these days. Shame cause he could have been an inspirational authority within the Bitcoin space if he played his cards right. Instead, he makes bold accusations to keep himself relevant.

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

Yeah, its ridiculous sometimes the length people will go to tarnish someone's name. Without knowing the ins, and outs of the listing if it was as innocent as listing firecrackers seems it would be a moderation issue with Ebay for breaking TOS rather than being labelled as selling explosives.

To be honest I was really surprised at the way Ver lost the plot in the video when he was being interviewed about BCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4OlPDXqoz0

It seems as though he definitely feels the need to stay relevant. In my opinion, with Ver throwing tantrums the way he did proves how unstable and immature he is but others might disagree.

[Cøbra]

Roger is permanently mentally trapped in the block size wars, he won't ever get out. He has nothing better but to come up with conspiracy theories and talk shit about Bitcoin because that's basically become his sole reason for living at this point. I actually feel quite sorry for him.

[dkbit98]

Roger is permanently mentally trapped in the block size wars, he won't ever get out. He has nothing better but to come up with conspiracy theories and talk shit about Bitcoin because that's basically become his sole reason for living at this point. I actually feel quite sorry for him.

Looks like we now continue with domain karate war   

bitcoin.org   vs     bitcoin.com
 Cobra Kai    vs   Roger Miyagi-do

[mikeywith]

He has nothing better but to come up with conspiracy theories.

I must agree ! actually, Roger made the exact following statement some time ago

"someone named their lightning node Roger Ver and non of the other lightning nods were connecting to it"

he really thinks that thousands of nodes "conspired" against that node that has his name ! it is sad that he doesn't have the slightest clue about how lightning network operates.





Zoom-In





The image is not fake, but there is no conspiracy in it.

[philipma1957]

VER vs Bitcointalk cencorship =  Ver very well may have a point right now. We still have very good standards of free speech here over many aspects but if you question the observable actions of some DTs or moderator members you may find your posts vanishing, and you may find one liner insults  that are groundless being merited by moderators. Let's fix this so people can not criticize this great forum and substantiate their claims with observable instances.

Compared to VerForum
Bitcointalk is a paradise.

There you can't even write Bitcoin.com inside post...
If you don't believe me then try it yourself  

VerForum is like Phantom Zone
from Superman universe

As we said this place is great until you want to bring up some observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing by DT members. Try that and see if you get away with out a ton of scam tags screaming you are a defamer and scammer. You say you can't give me a scam tag for presenting FACTS in the history that anyone can verify

THEY WILL SAY

"I CAN I WILL AND I JUST HAVE"

this is from a confirmed and documented auction scammer who supports a proven scammer who was caught red handed denying the project he held bags of tokens for was premined/instamined and he knew this because he was on the POW launch. It is accepted and documented FACT that it took place, there is strong case for him extorting people and a shady escrow to his name that many believe was for a small fortune.

You mention any of it and you will get a scam tag and THEYMOS allows this to happen and says if you whistleblow on observable financially high risk DT members - you MAY have a case for saying this is wrong, but now you got angry about being trust abused by proven scammers that means you are CRAZY so therefore there is some mental gymnastics that say although you have been here years, done one trade (successful) and never attempted any others, fought the largest scams and won a 2 000 000 000 USD airdrop compensation offer to the board and made many people rich from presenting your trading advice for which they have been publicly grateful. That even so.. because you got angry the same scammers you fought and defeated to induce a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation offer have BRANDED ALL YOUR THREADS AS ONES STARTED BY A SCAMMER... now you are actually a scammer yourself?  errrr okay theymos

What about them the real scammers those with observable instances of financially motivated wrongdoing ? well Theymos says, I will talk to OG and other members and work things out so any scam tags the REAL SCAMMERS have on them can be taken away so there is no more fighting. Fighting is counter productive.

Only because people Theymos is familiar with OG, lauda, Vod and other meta board people were effected did he bring forth the much needed flagging system. Theymos does not care about other members not from meta board in our opinion because he does not hear about it and can get back to watching tv.

You don't have to be dishonest or against free speech yourself when you are running a forum to indirectly allow an environment that crushes free speech. If you want to be warden of this board you need to ensure you are keeping an eye on things like this and not allow a 2 tier system to spring up where rules only apply to "some people".

This is a very important movement taking place and this is the center of it. You don't want a censored ANTI SATOSHI  2tier system springing up at the center. Fair transparent rules FOR ALL MEMBERS. If best efforts are not taking place to ensure this then for sure ROGER VER and anyone else can start saying Theymos is responsible for it since he is the warden of this board. That is why it is VERY IMPORTANT that theymos stamps out any corruption or double standards as soon as he sees them. Not just say oh its a few red marks on their account what's the big deal, or a few deletes here and there. Stop squabbling and being counter productive.

Clear double standard from mod or system controller = Last warning before perm expulsion.

Clear scamming or financial wrong doing from anyone in the trust system = Out and perm ban

no sweeping it under the carper or roger ver can not be denied to having a point, whether theymos is directly or indirectly involved.

We support theymos as a person and believe he is honest and want the best for the forum. FOR SURE WHY WOULD HE NOT
We don't support the "oh it will sort itself out" "oh what you're and auction scammer and observable imbecile - sure DT and merit source for you",  " what you have never scammed anyone and have no observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing  but scammers gave you a scam tag.... shut up with your boring long winded moaning "

Wake up , Man up and get rid of the censorship on this board in terms of dirty corrupt moderators and scamming untrustworthy DT members and their weak ass supporters....this is all a form of censorship if you allow them to have power to damage other persons accounts and put notices on the top of their threads saying THIS THREAD STARTED IS A SCAMMER.... you are censoring their entire output here and years of their hard work.


Let's get on with it. So people like VER say hey theymos board is censoring me and deleting my posts. We can say NOT TRUE unless you broke the rules that apply to ALL MEMBERS if you stay within the rules your post was 100% NOT DELETED AND NOT CENSORED. We can not say that right now.

You can say what you like with a negative trust score but you will be censored because

1/ people will fear saying or asking certain things (even if they are true) because they don't want red trust
2. People will be  also be ignored (just because they spoke the truth) as they have big scam sign on their account. Who bothers to read what they have to say after that is on the top.

This is wrong.

We are STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THEYMOS HIMSELF because he seems to be the best person for this type of movement in that he does not seem greedy or dishonest and does support free speech.

However he is NOT perfect. He needs to man up and get rid of the corrupt and observably financially dangerous scum bags here. They are the censorship because you allowed them (as selfish , greedy and corrupt people do if you don't keep an eye on them) to gain a lot of power and influence here.

Theymos also does not like to debate. Especially if you start demonstrating his initial assumption (based on lack of bothering to examine evidence) is either wrong or certainly not accurate. He just vanishes and that's that.

So theymos 8/10  - ten for intentions being good , but room for implementational improvement for sure.

Ver appears to be more difficult to gage but seems willing to back scams - this we can not support in anyway. Especially when this was made clear and there were threads about those projects some from one of the best scam hunters here Bruno. If he was unaware before that is a possibility.

TLDR??

You don't have to directly censor yourself to be responsible for censorship. That is theymos's current issue. He needs to get on top of it.
Overall we think you can trust theymos on a personal level for sure.

If ver is allowing censorship then he is again open to criticism. Although why you can not mention the domain he owns is confusing. We have not used his forum and do not intend to. This is the prime forum for crypto and should remain so. That is why we need to make it a non hostile environment. We can only do that if if it is provably a fair and open environment where rules are applied equally to all members.

Yeah people do fear talking against staff and moderators.  But every board on every forum I have been on people fear pointing out staff and mods doing wrong.

I have had run ins on anandtech with a staff/mod I simply don’t post their often anymore.
It was easy enough to leave that forum as I came here and did not look back.

If staff or a mod really pushed me hard on this forum I would mention it and most likely leave the forum for a while.

[JollyGood]

Yeah people do fear talking against staff and moderators.  But every board on every forum I have been on people fear pointing out staff and mods doing wrong.

I have had run ins on anandtech with a staff/mod I simply don’t post their often anymore.
It was easy enough to leave that forum as I came here and did not look back.

If staff or a mod really pushed me hard on this forum I would mention it and most likely leave the forum for a while.

It would be interesting to see what types of posts are made on any forum Ver is operating at his bitcoin.com domain. I would not be surprised at all if censorship was going overboard over there but I have no intention of finding out what is going on over there.

I never used anandtech before other than if it came up on a search engine results page and I was not exactly impressed with I saw anyway.

[dkbit98]

What do you guys think about new bcash.com CEO Stefan Rust ??
He reminds me on some comedy actor in a way we looks and talk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl88ftoNNSQ

Can't remember exact actor name...

EDIT:
Ben Stiller aka Zoolander

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Roger Ver posted new video regarding Bitcointalking forum
and moving this topic to Archival: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

Theymos is one of the worst things that happened to Bitcoin...

source video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU7343Ji8GI

 

I wonder what motives Ver has now
other than to promote his own 'liberal' forum and Bcash altcoin

I don't think Bitcointalk forum is some kind of Library that will keep all history of Bitcoin,
and that MemoryDealers post should never be moved to Archival section.




Maybe it has something to do with issues of his own Games gambling website being accused of SCAM
as you can see on multiple Scam topics:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179906.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173010.0

I love Ver and respect theymos, but to be frank (not Frank, my uncle), Ver's forum is a ghost town. That said, I'm sure this forum will double to over 4M users once the new forum is completed within the next ten years (humor at theymos' expense).

[shield132]

Topic Roger Ver is talking about in the video
Archival > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

But a topic is still here
Trading Discussion (Moderator: Cyrus) > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93110.msg1027941#msg1027941


The archived topic comes from the Russian forum. This man takes any opportunity to talk bad about BTC or BTC related stuff

Maybe it has something to do with issues of his own Games gambling website being accused of SCAM

No mate, this is Roger Ver lifestyle (misleading people, lying, posting fake pictures, fake events,...)

Shady behaviors again, I think he is doing his best in destroying his reputation rather than others'. I don't know why this man believes that shady promotion works, no, it lessens your chances because as time goes, everyone sees that you are liar. I think this man is even trying to sink his project.
Btw did Roger forget that he was running signature campaign on bitcointalk? If this website is bad and useless and his forum is better, then just tell me, why to promote on bitcointalk? Especially when you consider this forum and owners your and your loved one BCH's enemy.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Apparently they are running BitcoinDotCom without any of the required licenses: https://twitter.com/JihanWho/status/1176232390987059202?s=19

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Apparently they are running BitcoinDotCom without any of the required licenses: https://twitter.com/JihanWho/status/1176232390987059202?s=19

Ooch!

Aside: This is my 22,000th post with this user account. I'm da man!

[suchmoon]

Apparently they are running BitcoinDotCom without any of the required licenses: https://twitter.com/JihanWho/status/1176232390987059202?s=19

Wait, wasn't this Jihan dude a bcasher back in the day? I think I even had to buy that crap once or twice because there was no other way to pay for antminers.

[JollyGood]

Apparently they are running BitcoinDotCom without any of the required licenses: https://twitter.com/JihanWho/status/1176232390987059202?s=19

Wait, wasn't this Jihan dude a bcasher back in the day? I think I even had to buy that crap once or twice because there was no other way to pay for antminers.

@JihanWho as mentioned in the link above is a parody account of @JihanWu on Twitter. The parody account even states this in the Twitter profile.

If memory serves correct both Ver and Wu were the main people behind the launch of BCH. In one interview I think he openly stated he was mining BCH in mass quantities to exchange for BTC. He seems to be anti-BTC but uses it to line his pockets.

Yes he is the 'antminer' creator. I have no time for people such as Wu: https://coincentral.com/jihan-wu-bitmain-bitcoin-cash/

[joniboini]

Wait, wasn't this Jihan dude a bcasher back in the day? I think I even had to buy that crap once or twice because there was no other way to pay for antminers.

It isn't his account. His real Twitter account is @JihanWu.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Apparently they are running BitcoinDotCom without any of the required licenses: https://twitter.com/JihanWho/status/1176232390987059202?s=19

Wait, wasn't this Jihan dude a bcasher back in the day? I think I even had to buy that crap once or twice because there was no other way to pay for antminers.

It's a parody account (check its bio).

[suchmoon]

Ok, makes sense, order is restored to the universe. I was worried for a minute that Roger lost his only friend.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Ok, makes sense, order is restored to the universe. I was worried for a minute that Roger lost his only friend.

Please set me straight. Was the above link BS?

[suchmoon]

Ok, makes sense, order is restored to the universe. I was worried for a minute that Roger lost his only friend.

Please set me straight. Was the above link BS?

The link is fine and apparently Roger's site is breaking some law somewhere. It's just the twitter account is a parody account.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Ok, makes sense, order is restored to the universe. I was worried for a minute that Roger lost his only friend.

Please set me straight. Was the above link BS?

The email is legit. Anyone can verify.

[JollyGood]

Ok, makes sense, order is restored to the universe. I was worried for a minute that Roger lost his only friend.

Please set me straight. Was the above link BS?

 

Definitely was linked to a fake Twitter account

[dkbit98]

Here he is back again...with his new creepy Youtube video
and explanation why bcash is better

Sep 27, 2019

'Bitcoin Core Is Slow and Unreliable - Roger Ver'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYPmQgS7Pk
'see you on next video...'




He is so boring at this point...
I don't know what more to say

[JayJuanGee]

Here he is back again...with his new creepy Youtube video
and explanation why bcash is better

Sep 27, 2019

'Bitcoin Core Is Slow and Unreliable - Roger Ver'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyYPmQgS7Pk
'see you on next video...'




He is so boring at this point...
I don't know what more to say

I had to abandon half way, dkbit98.  I am sorry.  I could not take it.

Roger's points are such non-representative bullshit, and so disingenuine, and relying on a period in which BTC's network was being spammed in late 2017 and early 2018 in order to get as much bang for the buck as he can from that money that nutjobs were then able to afford to spend on such attack, but apparently they could not continue to afford to continue to spam the bitcoin network in order to attempt to cause the same alleged slowness and expensiveness.

In other words, Roger and his fellow nutjobs are getting desperate.  They cannot afford to continue to attack the bitcoin network, so they rely on their old data to propagate non-representative bullshit.

I suspect that if any of the Bcashers are able to achieve a sufficient pumpening of their coin,  whether Bcash SV or Bcash ABC, they are going to use those proceeds to attempt to create the impression of another one of these kinds of spam attacks, but they are likely becoming so damned frustrated because it cost more and more to be able to spam BTC's network because of the ongoing rising of hashing power, and at the same time, their bullshit scam coin (attack vectors) are losing value faster than they are able to sufficiently keep up the value in order to be able to use resources from the price of their shitcoin(s)...

Probably a better idea would be for Roger and Craig to reunite, and join forces, maybe even add vitalik into the mix, and Justin Sun and a few other "leaders", and pool their resources.. because each project on its own is not really making any kind of meaningful dent against king daddy bitcoin.

[dkbit98]

After all his videos and propaganda, Youtube decided to ban and delete Rogers youtube Bcash channel.
I don't like youtube deleting anyone channel, but I have to be honest and say I am not so sorry in this case.
RIP

Bcash youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/bitcoincomofficialchannel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCetxkZolEBHX47BqtZktbkg





However I do think it is time we slowly move away from youtube to some alternative platforms.


EDIT:

https://twitter.com/BitcoinCom/status/1272476443591802881

[ChiBitCTy]

Roger was fooled by CSW and has had his own coins hacked before, what more do you need to know that this guy is not someone you want to follow as a cryptocurrency expert and central figure over his unproven/untested coin.  He's also an unstable pathological liar, so there's that too.  He stated today (maybe yesterday) on twitter that bcash is anonymous ...news to me. It's really that simple when it comes to Ver.

[JollyGood]

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

[JayJuanGee]

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

He is one of those spoiled brats who never really had to account for his selfish behaviors, and even though he got a light sentence, he feels that he was treated unfair and punished excessively, so he never really has figured out ways to take responsibility for his own fuckups, whether current or historical.

Poor lil roger.       Always the victim, but never his fault.

[Timmzzy]

What really happened was that in 2012 he posted his Bitcoinica topic twice: once mistakenly in the Russian section, and once in the proper section. Then recently a Russian user happened to stumble across the Russian duplicate for some reason, reported it as non-Russian-language, and a Russian mod archived it. The real topic with replies was never touched. You can verify all of this with archive.org if you want.

I wonder if he's actually paranoid enough to believe that I'm secretly editing this kind of ancient history for some arcane reason (while also sending out notifications about it), or if it's pure propaganda. I've always found it amusing how Roger Ver, who styles himself some "high-powered CEO", seems to get so worked up about little old me, a 4chan troll at heart who admits to having essentially zero personal ambition.

Well, sir you know in life one will definitely have a competitor. So is good you find it amusing with all the act he pulled up there. And not to take things too further. Once again Happy birthday sir

[JollyGood]

Ver made millions of USD$ off the back of being an early adopter but as time went by it seems he decided to follow a different route from the mainstream users.

Does being a whale give a right to own or control the future path of the whole crypto?

I could be wrong but it seems obvious his failure to effectively become a de-facto leader or controller of Bitcoin led to his passion to create BCH and his attempt to directly/inadvertently destroy or damage Bitcoin.

Quite sad to see his fall from grace actually, he could have been an ambassador for Bitcoin but ended up being regarded by many people as an ungrateful traitor to the very hand that made him a multi-millionaire.

It is an old post but deserves a reply. Yes prison time really does sound excessive but for some reason or another Ver was sentenced to serve time in jail. Am not too sure exactly how that would have affected his mindset which led him to leaving the US behind and giving up his US citizenship but he did return to attend some sort of events to talk about Bitcoin (and BCH).

As far as I remember all he did was sell flash powder based firecrackers on eBay, i.e. potassium (per)chlorate + aluminium, something even kids play around with, and some are making him out as if he sold octogen to terrorists. Maybe he shouldn't have stored it in his apartment building but prison time seems excessive.

He is one of those spoiled brats who never really had to account for his selfish behaviors, and even though he got a light sentence, he feels that he was treated unfair and punished excessively, so he never really has figured out ways to take responsibility for his own fuckups, whether current or historical.

Poor lil roger.       Always the victim, but never his fault.

[dkbit98]

Now Ver  is blaming 'Bitcoin core anti-competition maximalists false reported videos...' for reporting his videos and bringing down his Youtube channel.  
He does look very sad poor old chap... again talking how bitcoin is 'bad'.
source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/h95tfy/youtube_is_becoming_a_tool_for_social_media/

[JollyGood]

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the "BCH official" channel or the "Roger Ver official channel" that was removed?

~snip~
Now Ver  is blaming 'Bitcoin core anti-competition maximalists false reported videos...' for reporting his videos and bringing down his Youtube channel.  

[dkbit98]

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the BCH official channel or the Roger Ver official channel that was removed?

It was BCH official channel.
I wrote about that few posts above... terminated for violation of YouTube's Terms of Service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180012.msg54620580#msg54620580

[JollyGood]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Does anybody know why Youtube removed his channel?

And was it the BCH official channel or the Roger Ver official channel that was removed?

It was BCH official channel.
I wrote about that few posts above... terminated for violation of YouTube's Terms of Service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180012.msg54620580#msg54620580

[dkbit98]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Sure, but I think that only Ver and youtube stuff knows the true reason,
and in Ver's latest video on reddit he did not say much about this...

[hulla]

Do you know the specific reasons why the channel was removed? The generic reason given by Youtube explains nothing:

"This account has been terminated for a violation of YouTube's Terms of Service."

It would be interesting know what exactly Youtube what found to be in breach of their ToS

Sure, but I think that only Ver and youtube stuff knows the true reason,
and in Ver's latest video on reddit he did not say much about this...

Youtube permission and restiction are numerous but it clearly stated by Youtube that they can remove any content that breach their rules and regulations. However, I think his account was just penalized and not totally terminated because it all back on but it would have been something exciting if it totally terminated.
As stated by dkbit98 Ver understand the reason why the whole thing happened.

Removal of Content By YouTube
If we reasonably believe that any Content is in breach of this Agreement or may cause harm to YouTube, our users, or third parties, we may remove or take down some or all of such Content. We will notify you with the reason for our action unless we reasonably believe that to do so: (a) would violate the law or the direction of a legal enforcement authority, or would otherwise risk legal liability for YouTube or our Affiliates; (b) would compromise an investigation or the integrity or operation of the Service; or (c) would cause harm to any user, other third party, YouTube or our Affiliates. You can learn more about reporting and enforcement, including how to appeal on the Troubleshooting page of our Help Center.

[LTU_btc]

It would be interesting to know exact reason why his channel was banned. I haven't followed content of his channel, but I imagine what I kind of stuff it had. Actually, I have my Youtube channel (not related to crypto) and I don't like Youtube policy which is getting more and more ridiculous. But it's good that one source of disinformation is gone from Youtube.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Youtube might have pulled it because it could be seen as potentially deceiving people into buying BCH when they thought they were buying BTC.

It might come under some kind of T&C or legal stuff linked to tricking consumers into buying the wrong goods.

Ver’s got form for tricking dumb noobs into buying BCH instead of BTC on bitcoin.com