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July 13, 2012, 03:14:54 PM
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Please help me.
I have 24,841 bitcoins on deposit with Bitcoinica.
I have provided them with my full and complete account history including every transaction since day one.
There is no question as to exactly how much I am owed. (I'm happy to provide proof to other trusted entities)
I have patiently been asking for them for my money back for months, but they have refused to return even a single Bitcoin to me.

I'm a core Bitcoin proselytizer.
I'm responsible partly or in full for:

www.Bitinstant.com
www.coinlab.com
www.lovebitcoins.org
www.ogrr.com
www.bitcoinchipin.com
www.memorydealers.com
National Bitcoin radio adds @ $2,800 a month for over the last year.
The Bitcoin Bet.
Bitcoin Billboard
Numerous national radio interviews.
Several more projects that are in the works including a Bitcoin competitor to newegg.com.

For the last 1.5 years I have spent every waking moment promoting Bitcoin,  and my 24,841 Bitcoins were to be used exactly for that.

Hacker, Tihan,  Zhou,  Patrick, Donald, Amir, or anyone else with access to my money,  please return it to
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so that I can continue to effectively promote Bitcoin.
Returning my funds will likely make everyone's worth even more in the long run.
I promise I will continue using them to help advance Bitcoin.

Roger Ver
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July 13, 2012, 03:18:30 PM
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Very sorry, Roger.  I don't know what your options are at this point.  It's looking more and more like this is going to be the way to go, but I doubt that'll end up being very satisfying in the end.  This is a real mess.
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July 13, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
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Very sorry, Roger.  I don't know what your options are at this point.  It's looking more and more like this is going to be the way to go, but I doubt that'll end up being very satisfying in the end.  This is a real mess.

I don't know if it is coincidence,  but Bitcoinica announced the latest hacking one day after myself and three other major creditors threatened to take legal action.  The timing seems too convenient for them.

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July 13, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
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Very sorry, Roger.  I don't know what your options are at this point.  It's looking more and more like this is going to be the way to go, but I doubt that'll end up being very satisfying in the end.  This is a real mess.

I don't know if it is coincidence,  but Bitcoinica announced the latest hacking one day after myself and three other major creditors threatened to take legal action.  The timing seems too convenient for them.

Roger, I've been trying to hold my tongue on any conspiracy theories and such, but this whole thing keeps looking more and more suspicious.  Obviously, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but this whole thing was strange enough a few months ago that it prompted me to take my personal bitcoin security very seriously (offline wallets, multi-factor auth, fireproof safes, etc.).

I really wish there were some way to help you, because you've done a tremendous amount work for the project in lots of different ways.  Again, so sorry for this.  As I've said before, I hope that everyone is learning the value of bitcoin as a way to secure your own wealth.
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July 13, 2012, 05:17:42 PM
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This is just a hunch but maybe try posting this plea in he Russian forums.

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July 13, 2012, 05:23:10 PM
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 Sad

People have no clue what a bigger effect this has on bitcoin when you effect users who are passionate about it. The "stolen btc" has just a small effect compared to the damage it does to bitcoin's image and the people who take time to help  promote it. If someone like Roger was to leave the community it has far-reaching effects.

If bitcoinica, Intersango want to truely show they have bitcoin as a whole in their interest they would send Roger bitcoins to him asap.

Just really,really bad to do this. Nobody, should be pleaing on a public forum for their money back wtf  Huh

edit: I mean really think about it. Roger does an interview and the interviewer asks what does he think about all the bitcoin related hacks and problems so far how is he going to be able to keep a straight-face and say things are getting better? just so frustrating.
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July 13, 2012, 05:31:00 PM
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I'm feel very bad when I hear stories like this, I can't believe that somebody can destroy someone's life and sleep well at night. I really hope that you will get your money back and that one who stole them will face the consequences.
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July 13, 2012, 05:36:14 PM
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That sucks, I hope you get your money back.

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July 13, 2012, 05:55:03 PM
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I hope you get your coins.  It would be nice if they just showed up to your posted address.  What a scam that group of owners have pulled.  Someone or a group of someones need to take some legal action against these people.  Scammer tags should be initiated immediately.

Dude, again I hope you get your coins.  That's a lot of money.  Keep doing what your doing regardless of the outcome.
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July 13, 2012, 05:56:44 PM
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good luck mate, I hope you get at least some of those btc back

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July 13, 2012, 05:57:30 PM
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There's not much I can do to help but I will send one of mine to: 16HMoS4TryH7wWsAv2PtvxiHX8QGXMGczi

I encourage whomever is reading this to consider doing the same. Sucks to see bad things happen to good people.
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July 13, 2012, 06:00:17 PM
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Personally, it might not be fair to others that could potentially be ahead of Mem Dealers in line..

But, for the good of the community, and for outstanding characters like this, that have full documentation on funds in bitcoinica,

accounts like these should priority one.

Why should multiple bitcoin based business's suffer and potentially drown under the stupidity of Bitcoinica?



Also, I agree with Proudhon, this is looking more and more like a long con..

Coincidence..   I think not.. 


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July 13, 2012, 06:13:21 PM
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So with BTC there is no insurance or anything like that with your money? Basically anyone that has the knowledge to hack their way into your wallet/account and take your BTC they end up with it?


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July 13, 2012, 06:17:38 PM
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So with BTC there is no insurance or anything like that with your money? Basically anyone that has the knowledge to hack their way into your wallet/account and take your BTC they end up with it?

Correct. It's just like dollars or valuable jewelry in your house. If someone can hack their way into it they end up with it.
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July 13, 2012, 06:19:31 PM
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Please help me.
Apparently Mt.Gox knows who withdrew the 40k+40k, but they choose to protect the hacker. Roger, you know Mark personally, so call and ask him to whom he did send those funds. I am sure this will shed some light to the whole affair.
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July 13, 2012, 06:22:29 PM
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Correct. It's just like dollars or valuable jewelry in your house. If someone can hack their way into it they end up with it.

Though in this case it's hardly 'hacking' - the information needed to gain access to the account was publicly available Sad.

I'm truly sorry for Roger - he's one of the good guys in this community. Let's hope that the remaining Bitcoinica funds don't slip through their fingers before they can at least partially compensate him.
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July 13, 2012, 06:24:43 PM
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So with BTC there is no insurance or anything like that with your money? Basically anyone that has the knowledge to hack their way into your wallet/account and take your BTC they end up with it?

Correct. It's just like dollars or valuable jewelry in your house. If someone can hack their way into it they end up with it.

But as dollars or jewelry, you can, theoretically, insure them. It just happens that bitcoin is so new and unknown that I don't think there's any insurance available yet.

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July 13, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
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Im really sorry for you, and i hope you will get your coins back.
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July 13, 2012, 06:25:52 PM
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This is just a hunch but maybe try posting this plea in he Russian forums.

LOL, that's funny because it's true.

But I suspect memdealer would have better luck with less Cyrillic and more Mandarin...

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July 13, 2012, 06:32:29 PM
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I'm truly sorry for Roger
bitcoiners and accounts like these should priority one.

what's going on behind the scenes Tihan,  Zhou,  Patrick, Donald, Amir, or anyone else with access to Bitcoinica money HuhHuh??

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