China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling!

[rodel caling]

Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

[nakamura12]

Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

I don't know what will chinese people think about banning them in philiplines. I'm sure you know what chinese people did to spratley island. Even their warship is in Philippine Area of Responsibility. Duterten said that it's okay that they can come in philippines just don't bring drugs or duterte will kill the chinese drug pusher.

[AmoreJaz]

Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

exactly! am not being a racist here but common, i have had encountered chinese in my lifetime in so many ways, so i fully understand what youre saying here. they should not dictate the philippines on what to do but tell it to their people. tbh, they are out of the line here.

[sweetbet]

The thing about online gambling is that there are literally hundreds of online gambling sites located throughout the world, so banning online gambling in one country is not going to make a significant difference especially when one can use a VPN to access any online casino, poker room, sportsbook or bingo hall from anywhere in the world.

[fortunecrypto]

Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

I agree with you I think they are even encouraging their people to immigrate to China because they know they can act a superior here, Philippines immigration should limit the number of Chinese coming in, some of their businessman here are just exploiting local people by not giving the right wages.

[maydna]

Is that not fault pf the Philippines government, china people has no discipline because they all greedy, we know a lot of online gambling operate herein the Philippines is legit but some china citizen, stay herein in the phillipines to operate illegal gambling.
I think not a solution suspension, the solution is banned the Chinese people to enter in the Philippines due to bad reputation of their people.

Not all Chinese people don't have discipline in the gambling game. I am sure they have those discipline, not just in gambling but also in the other field. But I think that what your saying is right that some Chinese people run the gambling business in the Philippines. Perhaps, the Philippines government doesn't need to ban online gambling because that will be too difficult to do, except they block the internet access which contains the word "gambling" so all people in the Philippines cannot access online gambling websites. But that will not stop people from playing gambling as now, and they have another option to visit the gambling websites.

[rhomelmabini]

What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

If even 90% that does online gambling here in the Philippines are only Chinese I guess that's more reasonable for China to ask but if not then I don't think it needs some attention by the Philippine government. Not all that do online gambling in the Philippines are Chinese and if that's the only reason they can think of then they should issue visas for their citizens that ban operating gambling or even gamble on offline/online casinos in the Philippines.

[peter0425]

I don’t know what’s the real motive of China about this another controversy but what I think is the issue of illegal gambling in the Philippines and also the illegal workers that involving all Chinese people.but whatever’s their position in this matter they should have asked the president politely not like slaves that whenever they declaring something Filipino has no option but to follow them.l
But you are right that President Duterte is still the last words for this and I trust him to give good verdict in everything special involving our sovereignty and freedom

It's because Chinese people are trying to go here just to do gambling. China has already banned gambling in their country so some Chinese businessman are trying to make money here in the Philippines through Gambling.

Online gambling is not available to customers based in the Philippines and websites of such firms are blocked. ... Online gambling remains illegal under Chinese law, but as of June 2019, there were 56 licensed POGOs and an estimated workforce of over 100,000 Chinese citizens in Manila working in this sector.

Well, it's for our own security and hopes that China doesn't have any plan to destroy our economic stability.

To read more: https://www.rappler.com/nation/238192-china-wants-philippines-ban-online-gambling

I think China has no care what’s the economy of every countries they are abusing because what’s important to them is to gain and to benefits from the gambler in each country

And I believe that this is not about the Chinese creating gambling business here but it’s about the Philippine government and the law must be implemented ,because admit it or not there are still people in government that letting this  abuses happen just for good amount to go under their tables,things that the people of the Philippines are suffering.
Yeah President Duterte want everything to be under the law but he cannot do it herself and he needs us

[Golftech]

Any further explanation about this news? Why are they talking about "modern slavery" is they are bullying a country and I think it is like the Philippines are their slaves telling us what to do or what to think of. It is all in the hands of our President, Rodrigo Duterte to ban or not to ban online gambling.

It's still dependable from how the Pres will see this concern. And since he's the leader of this country, then he's the one who's responsible whatever he wanted to treat this case. China can speak according to how they are seeing the problem. But since their jurisdiction is limited, they will need to wait from what the Philippine president's final statement, either it will be in their favor or if there's other way to treat this matter.

[nydiacaskey01]

What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

I am not sure what the "modern slavery" is all about if we are talking about the working conditions here in the Philippines for this Chinese workers. I see them walk around freely in Ortigas Center Pasig and live among the locals and they can easily blend with the crowd. If its the salary that they are talking about, that is subjective because the worker agreed to be paid in that amount. 

[btc78]

I don’t need to extend another sympathy on this issue as it was already mentioned everything above ,but what I want to share is my Respect to the Philippine President Rodrigo Roa Duterte as a man of power and dedication.

He will never let any country to dictate over him just like what he does in his past decision regarding EU and US,for sure he is will not doing any action if not for the country

On the other side the China’s word is an advice to stop the issue about the growing Illegal gambling and also illegal migrant in the Philippines.many are just over exaggerating the issue but it’s for the benefits of both countries I believe

[Tungsten-1]

Philippines is a small economy and it depends on more neighboring countries for the development. This can be of infrastructure, and various other forms of development. China will not force without any perfect plan, and this time of Philippines didn't take necessary precautions China will surely make some strategies to eliminate.

From a common man's view Philippines won't consider this a big issue, because even if Philippines ban all form of gambling activities still there'll be gambling through bookies and other sources.

If someone violating the rules of their country then they will face legal actions so most of the activities will be stopped from gamblers side but like you said it will encourage more illegal form of gambling which can be never restricted by the government and also they will lose taxes by banning the gambling activities in their country.

Well in China, the things is very different if you compare it with the US. It is all banned in China. You are penalized if you are spotted gambling or providing gambling facilities. I think same is the case in Philippines where gambling is illegal. But there are no laws about the online gambling so majority of people are very involved in the online gambling.

[vintages]

Whatever reasons the Chinese government have, I feel it's still not their call to make. An outside government has no business with how the other government runs his country.
What the Chinese government has to do is to caution his own citizens.
And I feel the Chinese government is being too rigid to their citizens especially on the issue of gambling. This is why most of them migrate to other countries where there will be lesser power control.

[sana54210]

I don't know how much influency China have on Philippines and it's difficult to trust in China government
Why don't give better jobs for people instead of try do obligate another country to do something?

This is the simple solution, if these people have good jobs, they won't seek in another places

They have influence on Philippine to a good extent but this is still not enough to enforce a decision that’s against their will on them. I am waiting to read the response of the Philippines government.
I want to correct the impression that China did not provide job for the citizens, this is absolutely not true. I believe you understand their population, and their economy is also good. Maybe you should visit my country and know the definition of unemployment.

I just want to read the reaction of the government if they would really stoop low to implement the ban because I don’t understand the essence of that ban at all. Philippines are very good with gambling and china is also into gambling, so many of their citizen’s gamble and most of them are into online betting.

[Theb]

The irony here is it's not even the only employed job for Chinese citizens here in the Philippines, aside from gambling they are also being employed to a lot of blue collard jobs from construction to manufacturing. If they are really aware of the situation they would stop all of these Chinese "tourist" to be working illegally here in the Philippines. Like I said the illegal Chinese workers here as tourist and there only reason on visiting the Philippines is not to tour the country but to find work illegally. The Chinese government is spreading their own story and is making it look like the Philippines is the ones at fault here when they can't even control their own citizens on finding ways to work illegally in the Philippines. A much more stricter travel regulation for their citizens and certain sanctions could help them stop it but they would rather want to stop a certain business sector of the Philippines so that it would go away which is really a dumb idea tbh.

[stomachgrowls]

I don't know how much influency China have on Philippines and it's difficult to trust in China government
Why don't give better jobs for people instead of try do obligate another country to do something?

This is the simple solution, if these people have good jobs, they won't seek in another places

They have influence on Philippine to a good extent but this is still not enough to enforce a decision that’s against their will on them. I am waiting to read the response of the Philippines government.
I want to correct the impression that China did not provide job for the citizens, this is absolutely not true. I believe you understand their population, and their economy is also good. Maybe you should visit my country and know the definition of unemployment.

I just want to read the reaction of the government if they would really stoop low to implement the ban because I don’t understand the essence of that ban at all. Philippines are very good with gambling and china is also into gambling, so many of their citizen’s gamble and most of them are into online betting.

Its completely illegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_China
Havent you consider why these Chinese nationals tend out to fly to Philippines? because its completely prohibited on there.
They do make operations online in PH and their main customer are China citizens itself.

[STT]

Gambling in China is allowed in Macau or Macao as its a partially self autonomous territory, they have a setup where gambling is controlled and Chinese citizens can visit and gamble, a bit like Vegas perhaps.  Similar to Hong Kong this is a former colonial area transferred over to Chinese control in 1999 and in some way separate to the rest of China and its laws, its economy is mostly driven by gambling as far as I know.    

Chinese government probably found it disturbing also that they are missing out on the incomes generated from online casinos.

Of course every government wants people to serve only their purposes when a population will always go its own way and be most productive and active when allowed to innovate inside a free economy.  China has a command economy and expects to command everything and everyone, this is not the most productive economy imo.
    China actually has a falling working population, its a giant of a country and in some ways communism allows it to appear very focused but they have weaknesses developing for sure.   I worry about China believing they can pressure and control other countries like they control their own people, it may cause conflict in the region.

[michellee]

Gambling in China is allowed in Macau or Macao

Then it doesn't make sense if the Chinese government want to ask the Philippines to ban all online gambling website in the Philippines because they allow gambling in Macau. But if the reason is that the Chinese government doesn't want their citizen who lived in the Philippines become poor when they involve in gambling, then it makes sense. The Chinese government doesn't want their people will get poverty in the other country because they are work in the Philippines to get money, so they need to save that money than to use for playing gambling.

[crwth]

There are a lot of reasons that China wants to ban online gambling. What I could think of right now are the taxes to be paid to the government. Like now, the gambling industry residing in the Philippines are spending a lot of money with regards to taxes, Php 579 Million in 2018 was reported in this article [1]. They are significant revenue for the Philippines, and the Chinese government might want that, but the reason that they have is that it is for money laundering, which can be real and it houses on what they call "modern-day slavery." [2]

In my view, they are just looking out for their people. Let's see how it would turn out soon — hopefully more updates to come.


References

[1] - China wants Philippines to ban online gambling by Sofia Tomacruz (Rappler)
[2] - China can’t dictate online gambling ban on the Philippines by Alexis Romero (The Philippine Star)

[fortunecrypto]

Online gaming operators in the Philippines employ about 130,000 Chinese nationals.

This is a very huge number when the fact is they are only giving half of this number working visas, some of them are illegally working in the Philippines, we do get taxes on this online gambling, but we so many Chinese coming in the country and working illegally, we will have a hard time tracking who are working legal and illegal, in fact, some of them are working as construction workers here.