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September 22, 2019, 08:28:27 AM
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hello guys , hope you are doing well and me ? not doing well
actually i've done a big mistake , the story is , someone asked me to exchange his money to bitcoin ( she claimed she is in Poland and can't do it herself) and i did it . now police has accused me of doing phishing on the accounts that have deposited money to my account . i checked the wallet ,he(which i later figured out it's a 'he') has transferred the funds to this wallet : 1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n

Can you help me please to figure out which exchange website uses this wallet ?
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September 22, 2019, 08:37:43 AM
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Can you help me please to figure out which exchange website uses this wallet ?

It doesn't seem to be an address of any exchange. Take a look at this article. Someone had to pay a ransom in order to obtain a decryption key for the files encrypted by the malware. Later, the funds from the provided BTC address were transferred to the address you mentioned.

Of particular interesting is a transaction of 65 bitcoins being sent from this address to the 1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n bitcoin address, which has received over 11,000 bitcoin addresses. The  1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n address could be used as a mixer to make it harder to law enforcement to track these bitcoins.
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September 22, 2019, 08:40:06 AM
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yep i've seen this , i checked its transactions and it also can't be controlled by a person , transactions are done automatically . I'm really confused
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September 22, 2019, 08:47:20 AM
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yep i've seen this , i checked its transactions and it also can't be controlled by a person , transactions are done automatically . I'm really confused

If the coins were transferred to a mixing service then tracking them will be no longer possible. Why were you accussed of phishing? Can't you provide correnspondence with the person who asked you to buy the coins to the police?
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September 22, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
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yep i've seen this , i checked its transactions and it also can't be controlled by a person , transactions are done automatically . I'm really confused

If the coins were transferred to a mixing service then tracking them will be no longer possible. Why were you accussed of phishing? Can't you provide correnspondence with the person who asked you to buy the coins to the police?
yes thank you for replying back
actually i can prove it since i've made and took both video and screenshots of the chats we had on telegram , but lawyers say it is highly likely that you have to pay all the money back to the victims
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September 22, 2019, 01:18:41 PM
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actually i can prove it since i've made and took both video and screenshots of the chats we had on telegram , but lawyers say it is highly likely that you have to pay all the money back to the victims
Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?

This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.
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September 22, 2019, 09:22:52 PM
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actually i can prove it since i've made and took both video and screenshots of the chats we had on telegram , but lawyers say it is highly likely that you have to pay all the money back to the victims
Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?

This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.
That's probably what happened to the guy i almost fell for this same tactics a few months ago but i taught to myself that why will someone i don't know before give me the login details to his funds asking me to transfer it to another wallet and asking me to take a huge percentage out of it.

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September 22, 2019, 09:24:41 PM
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What Men would not do for women.  Roll Eyes  You see a pretty face on social media and you immediately think it is a damsel-in-distress  Roll Eyes .... Scammers knows this and they identify their mark by targeting the wannabe hero out there.  Roll Eyes

Unfortunately all their actions leave a digital footprint out there and if you get people with enough knowledge, you can collect that data and show that to the Police. Sorry you fell for that.... but a sucker are born every day.  Sad

Good luck ..... hope your scammers left some footprints.  Wink

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September 22, 2019, 09:57:30 PM
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Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?

This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.

I think what happened here is someone first transferred money to OP's bank account, and then OP used the money he received to buy bitcoins on an exchange. If he were to use a bank account belonging to the phished person, he would have trouble passing KYC.

Not that it's huge difference for him, if his lawyers are saying he'll have to pay it back, that is probably the case.

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September 22, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
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I believe that Op has been frauded somehow. This is the reason some people don't do favour on line but in OP's issue, he probably was engrossed in what to get.
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September 22, 2019, 10:03:28 PM
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I believe that Op has been frauded somehow. This is the reason some people don't do favour on line but in OP's issue, he probably was engrossed

If you have no slightest idea who you are dealing with, better not to pursue the transaction whatever he is promising to you to that you will get afterwards. Nowadays, it is very hard to trust somebody you don't know that will ask a small favor. High likelihood that it might ended up a fraud. A lesson learned by the OP. So he should be more vigilant next time.
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September 23, 2019, 04:46:09 AM
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hello guys , hope you are doing well and me ? not doing well
actually i've done a big mistake , the story is , someone asked me to exchange his money to bitcoin ( she claimed she is in Poland and can't do it herself) and i did it . now police has accused me of doing phishing on the accounts that have deposited money to my account . i checked the wallet ,he(which i later figured out it's a 'he') has transferred the funds to this wallet : 1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n

Can you help me please to figure out which exchange website uses this wallet ?

In the first place, it will be impossible to track it mate. Maybe you must learn from your mistakes mate, that's the only thing you can do while we can't do anything about your problem, only tips of advise that's we can give to you. Just be careful and don't just easily transact with anyone especially strangers, good day.
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September 23, 2019, 05:07:13 AM
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I think what happened here is someone first transferred money to OP's bank account, and then OP used the money he received to buy bitcoins on an exchange.
If this is the case, and a hacker has logged in to someone else's account and transferred money to OP, rather than sending the logn details to OP, then if I were OP I'd be asking my lawyers to contact the sending bank and request the activity logs on that account. It's a very slim chance, but perhaps IP logs might help to show that it wasn't you who stolen that money. If you can match the bank login IPs to the scammer's Telegram IP, then even better.

I have never used Telegram so no idea how difficult it would be to get them to release IP data.
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September 23, 2019, 05:09:33 AM
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hello guys , hope you are doing well and me ? not doing well
actually i've done a big mistake , the story is , someone asked me to exchange his money to bitcoin ( she claimed she is in Poland and can't do it herself) and i did it . now police has accused me of doing phishing on the accounts that have deposited money to my account . i checked the wallet ,he(which i later figured out it's a 'he') has transferred the funds to this wallet : 1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n

Can you help me please to figure out which exchange website uses this wallet ?
I've also received an offer like yours before. It happened via Telegram and thankfully I didn't bit his/her bait since I'm not negotiating to any person online who pm me first out of nowhere; without seeing his/her identity. The only way to track that wallet down is to know if it's an exchange's address so you may contact that exchange for them to help and assists you. However, your chances of recovering it is too small.
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September 23, 2019, 06:18:34 AM
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hello guys , hope you are doing well and me ? not doing well
actually i've done a big mistake , the story is , someone asked me to exchange his money to bitcoin ( she claimed she is in Poland and can't do it herself) and i did it . now police has accused me of doing phishing on the accounts that have deposited money to my account . i checked the wallet ,he(which i later figured out it's a 'he') has transferred the funds to this wallet : 1CnCfvUTFQf11QNeBEpk29rRXfNFg75R9n

Can you help me please to figure out which exchange website uses this wallet ?
I've also received an offer like yours before. It happened via Telegram and thankfully I didn't bit his/her bait since I'm not negotiating to any person online who pm me first out of nowhere; without seeing his/her identity. The only way to track that wallet down is to know if it's an exchange's address so you may contact that exchange for them to help and assists you. However, your chances of recovering it is too small.
well it appears to be a mixing service which makes it impossible to trace
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September 23, 2019, 06:32:03 AM
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actually i can prove it since i've made and took both video and screenshots of the chats we had on telegram , but lawyers say it is highly likely that you have to pay all the money back to the victims
Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?

This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.
no logging in occurred on my party , sir . he sent me the money from the victim's bank account and i bought him bitcoins . who to blame? don't you think banks are to blame? low security is to blame not me
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September 23, 2019, 07:05:23 AM
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actually i can prove it since i've made and took both video and screenshots of the chats we had on telegram , but lawyers say it is highly likely that you have to pay all the money back to the victims
Imagine someone said to you "Go take $100 out of that wallet that is lying there, use it to buy bitcoin, and send the bitcoin to my address. It's totally fine, that's definitely my wallet and my money, I just can't do it myself." Would you do it?

This is essentially what has happened. Someone has given you log in details to a third party's (or parties') account(s). You have logged in to the account of these innocent people, stolen their money, used it to buy bitcoin, and sent it to the scammer. If you are prosecuted for this, then your lawyer is right. The excuse of "Someone else told me to do it" isn't exactly going to stand up in court, even if you have proof of them telling you to do it.
no logging in occurred on my party , sir . he sent me the money from the victim's bank account and i bought him bitcoins . who to blame? don't you think banks are to blame? low security is to blame not me

Okay. Trump is to be blamed for letting things like these happen.  Roll Eyes
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September 23, 2019, 08:30:17 AM
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What Men would not do for women.  Roll Eyes  You see a pretty face on social media and you immediately think it is a damsel-in-distress  Roll Eyes .... Scammers knows this and they identify their mark by targeting the wannabe hero out there.  Roll Eyes

Unfortunately all their actions leave a digital footprint out there and if you get people with enough knowledge, you can collect that data and show that to the Police. Sorry you fell for that.... but a sucker are born every day.  Sad

Good luck ..... hope your scammers left some footprints.  Wink

Yeap too many of these scammers pose as bimbos on telegram as well and try to lure all these desperate men into doing stupid things and they are all male scammers, who know how men think lol! They see a profile of some blonde bimbo then they become controlled by these scammers. Also most of the peeps in Bitcoin and generally crypto are men and they become gullible targets for these stupid activities. You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee and realize that a fake pretty face is not going to get all your desires filled or your purses full of Bitcoin. You took part in fraudulent activity by logging into someone else's wallet. Didn't you know going into someone else's property is illegal lol? I would be very careful next time not to listen to even allow contact with bimboesque profiles on the Internet and telegram is full of them, along with Facebook.


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