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September 06, 2019, 06:15:50 AM
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My point of view is that any coin that has bounty is automatically a shitcoin, because if it was anything serious, it would have attracted millions in investments and the devs would be able to hire a proper marketing team. Instead they rely on cheap work that they hire for nearly free - a red flag for any company. Of course having proper marketing doesn't necessarily mean that a coin is not a shitcoin either, but it would at least survive longer.

So, with or without bounty hunters dumping their rewards, ico investors are still going to lose money in the long run.
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September 06, 2019, 09:20:25 AM
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Those are just bad projects, good projects will never let prices collapse quickly
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September 06, 2019, 09:46:59 AM
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2% from total supply could be huge dumped indeed If all of bounty hunters selling their coins at the same time through an one exchange especially if buy support lower than sell support possibly the price will hard to be pumped again and if we facing the situations similar like this then the key probably to the investors itself that if they decide to sold too their coins then possibly the price will hard to bounce back
This is one of the reason why we are seeing most of the eth tokens now that are almost worthless in value.
Back in 2017, I am actively participating in bounty campaign, was able to sell some of my reward and also keep some thinking it will grow and rise more in the future. In 2018, the struggle begins but I still don't sell and I notice that slowly the value is dropping but since I don't panic I never mind it.

I realize that when the market is bad, meaning more sell orders than buy orders, it's a bad time for a project that will dump even if a small percentage because those times, people aren't interested to buy, they will play safe with coins with high liquidity.

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September 06, 2019, 10:04:39 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Have you considered it from the angle of early investors dumping their tokens especially those investoes that bought during the pre-sale stage with bonuses of 10-30% off. The hunters allocations aren't that huge and hardly before you see a project distribute bounty tokens immediately after crowdfunding of a project is over.

Here's a proposal which might work to prevent dumping as understandable if there aren't enough buying support, hunters selling their tokens will surely bring down the price value of a coin. The proposed strategy goes like this, distribution should be done in batches also there should be a break of 15-30 days between each distribution date. Some projects already using this technique are recording a successful. Irrespective of all these, a shitproject without any real value will still lose price value whether or not they get dump by hunters.

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September 06, 2019, 10:29:08 AM
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My point is that, there is a small portion that affects the dump price of  tokens, why? because bounty tokens were released right after few months of being listed in exchanges, so it does not mean that bounty hunters are the cause of the dump, hence, i agree its all about the offer and demand.

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September 06, 2019, 10:45:06 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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There's really going to be a huge selling pressure that's going to happen, even if it's only a small percentage, but there are investors and those early birds who expect dumps and they are the one that will likely buy the token, provided that the project is good enough.

Investors know that when a coin hit the market, it will be 20 to 50% lower because of early buyer who got a bonus or bounty hunters who want to sell their coin, they are the one most likely to buy the token.

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September 06, 2019, 11:34:45 AM
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Projects should cost bounty allocation in liquid tokens of Eth or Btc or Xrp or Eos and not their native tokens. If payment is made in other listed know tokens their native token price won't be dumped in the market after bounty payout. Also there should be high utility for every token as such hunters will like to hodl for a while.
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September 06, 2019, 11:40:49 AM
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THere are some project who always throw the blame to bounty hunters when it came to market price.
Those people are brainless, in every token percentage bounty budger is the smallest.
A very little percent of the whole pack. for me they must focus more on how they will handle the private and early investors.



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September 06, 2019, 11:55:37 AM
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think again. did they just buy the token and not use it? Well, if not, of course, because a project works not according to what they want. when a project develops for the better, or in accordance with the concept, then people who are interested in the concept will buy it again.

I think bounty hunter is quite influential in price because sales are done at the same time. however, if the project is made based on user needs, I think, the price will slowly go up again because many people want to use it. it's not just buying and selling, but how useful the project is for most people.

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September 06, 2019, 12:01:08 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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I disagree with your opinion, in my opinion the first is because of the greed of investors trying to dump tokens as low as possible and want to buy more as much as possible. But we are currently in a long bearish trend so that all investors do not want to take too much risk, the two projects or a good team will not let the price of tokens be dumped for a long time. They got a lot of money from the ICO why didn't they want to buy the price of the token which dropped 50%-80% from the ICO price even though the bounty hunter allocation was only 2%-3%. If they buy tokens at a price below 50% ICO price with a token allocation equal to 2% tokens it won't be their financial problem
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September 06, 2019, 12:04:43 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Have you considered it from the angle of early investors dumping their tokens especially those investoes that bought during the pre-sale stage with bonuses of 10-30% off. The hunters allocations aren't that huge and hardly before you see a project distribute bounty tokens immediately after crowdfunding of a project is over.

Here's a proposal which might work to prevent dumping as understandable if there aren't enough buying support, hunters selling their tokens will surely bring down the price value of a coin. The proposed strategy goes like this, distribution should be done in batches also there should be a break of 15-30 days between each distribution date. Some projects already using this technique are recording a successful. Irrespective of all these, a shitproject without any real value will still lose price value whether or not they get dump by hunters.

Exactly! Bounty allocations nowadays are much lesser than before that its impact once dump will be almost negligible! My hint is that the teams are also dumping their tokens /coins on the market alongside with early investors and often bounty hunters are usually blamed for the sudden price crash. We must also remember that not all bounty hunters prefer to dump their tokens / coins right away especially if they believe on the merits of the project.
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September 06, 2019, 12:38:56 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Have you ever tried to ask yourself why there are no adequate buy orders when a coin is listed?
This is what ought to have been addressed before launching a project and before listed its coin on exchange.
A project with no working project might suffer from such setback. Investors PR users may not have reasons to buy the coin, because it has no use.
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September 06, 2019, 01:10:15 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Only projects with no real use case will face such failure on exchanges,if the project is good enough there will be demand for the coin or token on exchanges its been listed on,bounty hunters need to think twice before promoting any project and the only way is better research,stay away from projects with no real use case

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September 06, 2019, 01:19:34 PM
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I do not think that participants in the bounty companies are to blame for the drop in the price of tokens after the ICO. As noted above, on average, about 2% of tokens are allocated to a company's bounty, and if suddenly, and as often happens, there are few buyers, this most likely means that this token and its project are of no interest, and now you need to figure out why going on. Personally, I see a problem in the team itself, which launches the project and offers tokens. If the team is not interested in maintaining and developing the token itself, then we can safely say that its price will go down and it will not be interesting. And for that matter, and someone believes that the bounty participants are dropping the price of a token, then let them pay not in tokens, but for example in ETH.
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September 06, 2019, 01:32:33 PM
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Guess you're OK with people dumping their coins whenever they want?
Well, dumping won't be a big problem for developers who already have their funds in  established cryptocurrencies. I noticed that many project developers don't even care about dumping once they are funded successfully through ICO or other means.
Developers who solely rely on increase in their coins price for funding could easily run out of fund once the coins are dumped.
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September 06, 2019, 01:43:32 PM
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What's been allocated to bounties were very small in percentage when compared to the supply of the respective token. Another thing, even the participants weren't paid with the rewards once after the ICO sale or the promotion is over. This small percentage might make a small impact on the market value of the token. Dumps were mostly due to the improper development and funding to the project.

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September 06, 2019, 02:07:16 PM
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I think that participants in the bounty campaigns cannot influence the market. Early investors and overpriced buying bonuses have a much more negative impact.
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September 06, 2019, 02:10:41 PM
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I think that participants in the bounty campaigns cannot influence the market. Early investors and overpriced buying bonuses have a much more negative impact.
I have same opinion. Private investors are buying with 50-100% high bonuses. Even they earn just few % by selling tokens after token listing, they earned.
While retail investors and bounty participants are loosing with every price dump. And other important factor is that most of recent bounty campaigns lock bounty tokens for few months. So how can they cause a dump then?  Wink

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September 06, 2019, 02:25:03 PM
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Dumping are not just done by bounty hunters but more so by token holders especially if they can already be gaining some profits or if they feel that the project is not really worth to hold on. Like what you said, 2% of the token supply can be a force but what about the other 98%...are they not the much bigger force? Good thing that right now there are now proven ways to counteract dumping...by releasing the tokens for bounty hunters weeks after the token can be found in many exchanges which can mean that bounty hunters are left with almost valueless tokens at their hands.
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September 06, 2019, 02:25:23 PM
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that is the reason why they sell because if the coins do not have enough buyers then they will suffer losses because there may be people who sell while they want to wait for another purchase
lucky if the bounty hunter can get a good project but if not then they will also be the losers when they decide to continue hodling
if you already know how all of this works then I suggest that you don't waste the opportunity while your coins have a good price
because you know very well that bounty hunter is a dumper so sell first before bounty hunter sells
that's my advice and opinion

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