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September 07, 2019, 04:02:47 PM
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I believe dump happens when buyers are lesser than sellers in the market. I believe we can not blame bounty hunters all the time for dumping because all bounty hunter does not sell instantly when listed. For price rise after listing project must have potential otherwise it will definitely fall even it is also true the projects launches on less popular exchanges are more likely to fail.

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September 07, 2019, 04:54:21 PM
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Yes that is true about demand and suply, how about the project owners having a buy back program that place them at an advantageous end of rebuying tokens, and either lock them for a period or burn them.
This acts brings about more invesors and helps to controll the market
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September 09, 2019, 04:14:30 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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I think the developer and the team will have a solution to prevent the dumps that will happen after their token listed on the exchanges. But if they don't have, then it is hard for them to keep the price is at a normal price because as you said, the price will going down deeper. I think that happens so far, and it's already happening with almost all tokens listed on the exchanges. If the project is a good project, then they will survive, and even they can pass the bad situations so the price can slowly to increase to the higher price.

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September 09, 2019, 04:23:20 AM
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If investors really trust and like the project then it is good for them to see the price dumping once listed.
They can get more of it at very low price. Don't under estimate bounty hunters as most of them know the market.
If the project are worth holding the coin becauses the team is good and the development is great then why they will sell?
Bounty participants never gets discount! they work for the token, and they have the smallest percentage among any groups.

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September 09, 2019, 04:25:21 AM
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Yes that is true about demand and suply, how about the project owners having a buy back program that place them at an advantageous end of rebuying tokens, and either lock them for a period or burn them.
This acts brings about more invesors and helps to controll the market
Those buybacks that will lead to burning the coins will give interest to the investors as they've got some good positive outlook regarding to the project, if the team have a good plans and really care about how the project will turned into a success, dumped coins that being buyback would allow new investors to think about working with the team, supports might be acquire if trust will be build.

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September 09, 2019, 04:49:27 PM
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Everyone that does not understand the tokenomics of a project, is blaming hunters for a massive dumps during the first listing. Dumps are happening because of the lack of buy back process and too big bonuses for pre sale participants.
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September 09, 2019, 11:27:34 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Obviously price reductions will occur and this is inevitable. Bounty hunters join the project in hopes of obtaining tokens. Once you get the token, it's normal to sell the coins. Many projects have been dumps, so this bounty hunter's mind wants to directly sell the coins before the coin price falls deeper.

However, each project certainly has its potential and has a team, developer. They have to work hard to improve the quality of their projects.

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September 10, 2019, 12:01:18 AM
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Everyone that does not understand the tokenomics of a project, is blaming hunters for a massive dumps during the first listing. Dumps are happening because of the lack of buy back process and too big bonuses for pre sale participants.
agree with this blaming bounty hunter is a classic reason and if the project wants to prevent this maybe the way that can be done is to improve their project and also possible if the bounty allocation is fairly large can impose a locking system with a long time (approx 3-6 month) and can also alternatively distribute batch systems (1-4 batches).
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September 10, 2019, 12:09:00 AM
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The price is dumping not because of bounty hunters, I mean not only, there are plenty of factors, the bear market is main,lack of liquidity of bad exchanges when listing

Many people blame the bounty hunter even though the bounty allocation is only 1% and divided among thousands of participants, I'm sure investors are the main factor that makes the price dumps, most ICOs provide bonuses so that investors immediately sell.


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September 10, 2019, 07:13:46 AM
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I think that participants in the bounty campaigns cannot influence the market. Early investors and overpriced buying bonuses have a much more negative impact.
No matter what the op said, 2 percent of bounty hunters is still not enough to cause dumping because when you even gave that percentage out, it was not just saturated into one hand, it was given to many people and there is no way that all of them can all think of selling their coins at the same time, some that believes in the project would still want to give the project benefit of doubt by waiting a little bit longer to see if there would be pump.

The main dumping to me come from major investors and sometime developers themselves, there are developers that just want the project to die because they are scam, while the free toke given to these investors in the name of promo or reward is just too much and could cause a major dump for coins.

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September 10, 2019, 07:34:03 AM
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Sorry, but if there is no demand for the newly listed token and if its listed on some low-tier exchange with low volumes/liquidity, 2% of total supply is more than enough to tank the price. And that price can suffer for months because of it as bounty hunters are filling the sell order list and preventing the price to rise.
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September 11, 2019, 09:13:33 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Bounty hunters have the right to sell their coins at any time, because they earned them honestly. If the project owners do not want to see a price dump, then let them pay the bounty hunters in Ethereum, which they received as an investment. And then there will be no problems with a price dump. How do you like this idea?

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September 11, 2019, 09:30:12 PM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Or they understand the supply demand very well and knows that as soon as the token is listed on a market, there will be an increase of supply thus causing the price to drop. So in order not to face such loss or to maximize their profit, they try to dump their tokens as soon as possible. As the token starts to spread out among different people, they start buying it back at cheaper price with the hope of the price rising back to normal or higher than what they have bought it for.

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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Bounty hunters have the right to sell their coins at any time, because they earned them honestly. If the project owners do not want to see a price dump, then let them pay the bounty hunters in Ethereum, which they received as an investment. And then there will be no problems with a price dump. How do you like this idea?
This is not the first time we have seen such offers but the meaning of the paying in ETH is not going to solve this problem. Bounty hunters don't want to hold the token they earned through bounty campaign but they want to sell as soon as possible for quick cash which they don't deserve in my opinion. The dump doesn't happened from the things like weather or the emotional shape of the bounty hunter, there are strong arguments behind every dump by the bounty hunters. As a passive income, bounty earnings distributed as a gift but this gift is locked for months. After the unlock period, I can't blame the bounty hunters for these reasons. They also need to make money.
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September 11, 2019, 11:03:40 PM
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Well, a good project must have anticipated a price drop, either because an initial investor sold his assets after listing, or a bounty hunter who sold his rewards after distribution. The high interest in demand is largely determined by the quality of the project, so the buy and sell walls are balanced. Lately, when the market is saturated, prices are difficult to develop, bounty hunters and investors want to immediately release their tokens before prices are getting dumped, not because they don't understand supply and demand strategies, I think.

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September 11, 2019, 11:17:51 PM
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A very small demand is the problem and the sale of unconstrained coins is the cause of the problem. So far it happens that after getting free coins, many bounty hunters sell immediately coins. Maybe the coin price can be back up after getting a great request. But not many projects like that and more coins are experiencing failures.

I think we should be patient and not in a hurry to sell coins.

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September 12, 2019, 12:23:44 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Bounty Hunters can decide when they want to sell their coin's. People have their own preiction and need. So, if they think it Will be better for them to sell their coins as soon as possible maybe they have their own reason. But, if they can be patient more, maybe they can get more income too.

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September 12, 2019, 02:50:00 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Bounty Hunters can decide when they want to sell their coin's. People have their own preiction and need. So, if they think it Will be better for them to sell their coins as soon as possible maybe they have their own reason. But, if they can be patient more, maybe they can get more income too.

Right. We cannot blame the bounty hunters for selling their token because they need to make money from the project, and that is the reason why the price of the token is getting dump too deep. It is a job of the developer and the team to prevent the drop of the price, and they will need to think to solve or prevent that.

If they are smart, they will make a way which will prevent the price from dropping, but I don't think that will make the bounty hunters happy to see that. The price after the ICO sale will be too higher, so that makes people doesn't want to buy the token, and maybe they want to buy the token at a low price. But maybe a low price can attract more buyer to buy the token if the project was good enough to compete with the other project so I think they can increase their price at the market.

But still, every time the token release at the market, the dump will happen, and I think that will be temporary because after that the token price will increase by slowly. But related to the current situation, I think the token will need more time to increase the rate.
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September 12, 2019, 03:19:24 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
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Sometimes if the price is lower then the ICO price, those who have already bought might buy even more until the price is back to the ICO price, then they have massive stashed of coins as well.
Sometimes by then the project loses interest to some but if you hold you might come off with a profit. I prefer to wait for dor an ICO to end and hit the exchange before I buy-in.

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September 12, 2019, 05:38:42 AM
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Many people do not understand offer and demand, how it really works.
If all bounty hunters would like to sell all their tokens (2% of total supply) it is a huge selling pressure. If there are not enough buyers, price is going down until encounters buy orders. And as you can guess, noone wants to buy ICO coins just after the ICO sale because those who wanted buy, they already bought. Smiley
Your point of view?  Cool

Sometimes if the price is lower then the ICO price, those who have already bought might buy even more until the price is back to the ICO price, then they have massive stashed of coins as well.
Sometimes by then the project loses interest to some but if you hold you might come off with a profit. I prefer to wait for dor an ICO to end and hit the exchange before I buy-in.
It can be a good chance if there's really a good future ahead for their said project, when the market bounce again your investment will bring a huge favor and make decent profits, though it's really a hard to predict which project will bring potential benefits, ico's who's experiencing huge fall but have a good possibilities will be able to recover and make a good place for your money.

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