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September 06, 2019, 09:27:24 PM
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The address below has received 94,500 bitcoins.
37XuVSEpWW4trkfmvWzegTHQt7BdktSKUs
According to what I read in some reports, it is the richest non-exchange address. I also read that at least one third of these bitcoin has been transferred from Huobi exchanges. As Withdrawing that big amount of bitcoin from Huobi exchange require KYC, so Huobi should know the person behind this transaction.
Assume that the government find this transaction suspicious and want to know the owner of these bitcoins. The government can force Huobi to give them the documents of the owner of this wallet. Huobi can be forced by court if they don't give those documents to government.

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September 06, 2019, 09:51:21 PM
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And then what? The government can't release it to the public. By the time they get the information if that person is in China he or she will be long gone. At least they should be if they start to expect the government is out to get them.

They can't be arrested for owning bitcoins and they can buy citizenship wherever they want including countries with no bitcoin tax like Malta.

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September 06, 2019, 10:01:46 PM
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And then what? The government can't release it to the public. By the time they get the information if that person is in China he or she will be long gone. At least they should be if they start to expect the government is out to get them.

They can't be arrested for owning bitcoins and they can buy citizenship wherever they want including countries with no bitcoin tax like Malta.
Yeah, I think whoever owns $ 1 billion will find a way to stay anonymous.People with that much money know how to do it.And the exchange( in principle any) under pressure from regulators will tell absolutely everything about the owner.(at least I think so).

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September 06, 2019, 11:38:42 PM
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I don't know how it works, but if the person is from some random country, and Huobi is from Singapore, there is a lot of obstacles about jurisdiction, international laws, the kind of relation between countries...
This is not so simple

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September 06, 2019, 11:52:18 PM
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Source: $1B BITCOIN TRANSACTION TRACED BACK TO MULTIPLE HUOBI ADDRESSES

Someone also on the Speculation section has monitored this wallet and posted just after the transactions were made.

This was the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2076717.20

I think whoever that person is intelligent enough to cover their identity and will act accordingly to not expose who he/she is unless doesn't care about personal security.

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September 07, 2019, 02:50:15 AM
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Is this really a transaction of a certain "person"? I highly doubt it is. 1 Billion USD in Bitcoin alone and owned by a single person? This is unlikely. My hunch is that this is owned by an institution or a company.

Or do you think it is just a coincidence that after the move Bakkt announced its opening of its Bitcoin warehouse?

"It looks like the address of an entity like Bakkt or perhaps VanEck..."

Source: https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/09/06/bakkt-opens-warehouse-hours-after-94000-bitcoin-move





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September 07, 2019, 03:20:01 AM
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lol. just another large transfer which "news sites caught" so everyone is going crazy about it these days. otherwise there are a lot of other transactions like this happening and lots of addresses with large amounts stored in them but people don't talk about only because the news sites never put them on their radar!
here are some examples;
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34xp4vRoCGJym3xR7yCVPFHoCNxv4Twseo 164,281
35hK24tcLEWcgNA4JxpvbkNkoAcDGqQPsP 151,000
385cR5DM96n1HvBDMzLHPYcw89fZAXULJP 120,804
3Nxwenay9Z8Lc9JBiywExpnEFiLp6Afp8v 107,848
183hmJGRuTEi2YDCWy5iozY8rZtFwVgahM 85,947
1FeexV6bAHb8ybZjqQMjJrcCrHGW9sb6uF 79,957
3D2oetdNuZUqQHPJmcMDDHYoqkyNVsFk9r 76,893
1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx 69,370
3E35SFZkfLMGo4qX5aVs1bBDSnAuGgBH33 65,077
1LdRcdxfbSnmCYYNdeYpUnztiYzVfBEQeC 53,880
and out of this 10, only 5 of them are obvious exchange wallets!

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September 07, 2019, 07:14:36 AM
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Go ahead if you want to know who is the person. But then after you know that person, what you will do? Do you want to ask him to send some bitcoin to you?

I think let them have that bitcoin, and we don't have to search who is behind that wallet because we have a more important thing that we should do now than to know that person. But it is up to you, and you have the plan Grin

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September 07, 2019, 07:20:06 AM
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As Withdrawing that big amount of bitcoin from Huobi exchange require KYC, so Huobi should know the person behind this transaction.

Do you think that a guy with a billion dollars in his account would give his real identity to some random exchange.
If he manage to keep that amount of bitcoin till now, for sure he is not some random stupid guy.
I'm sure no one will ever know who that guy is...





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September 07, 2019, 08:38:22 AM
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more likely the exchange moving from hotwallet to cold wallet/vault

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September 07, 2019, 09:46:17 AM
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Assume that the government find this transaction suspicious and want to know the owner of these bitcoins. The government can force Huobi to give them the documents of the owner of this wallet. Huobi can be forced by court if they don't give those documents to government.

Sure that can happen but the government will have to come up with a good enough reason before Huobi will complie unless Huobi already has a hidden agreement with the government before now. This transaction in my opinion is just a distraction, maybe to create fomo, the bitcoin wasn't exchange to fiat per se but rather transfer from an exchange to a personal wallet meaning this most be a new whale as the coins were bought recently considering nobody keeps such huge amount on exchange especially as they're liable to hack and the old whales are already aware of this possibility.

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September 07, 2019, 09:52:41 AM
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Wasn't it also suggested that this was either a huge send to a Bakkt warehouse wallet (they started the service on the same day) or a pre consolidated send from earlier smaller clients.

I don't think it would be easy to determine that until Bakkt is operational. Should be a matter of time only.

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September 07, 2019, 10:04:27 AM
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I agree that this is just a journalistic exaggeration, they use fiat value instead of BTC, $1 billion sounds a lot better then 94,500 BTC. We need to be aware that there are people who have invested in Bitcoin from the beginning, as miners or just by buying coins with fiat.

Bitcoin is in its beginnings interesting to a very small circle of people, mining was easy and price low - so amounts of 90k BTC even being in the possession of one person is not strange. Even in 2014 one person (Tim Draper) bought 30 000 BTC in auction which cost him just $18 millions.

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September 07, 2019, 10:50:39 AM
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The address below has received 94,500 bitcoins.
37XuVSEpWW4trkfmvWzegTHQt7BdktSKUs
According to what I read in some reports, it is the richest non-exchange address. I also read that at least one third of these bitcoin has been transferred from Huobi exchanges. As Withdrawing that big amount of bitcoin from Huobi exchange require KYC, so Huobi should know the person behind this transaction.
Assume that the government find this transaction suspicious and want to know the owner of these bitcoins. The government can force Huobi to give them the documents of the owner of this wallet. Huobi can be forced by court if they don't give those documents to government.

Well that is indeed the largest non exchange address but i think news website are little overexaggerating. we saw people holding larger amounts of bitcoins roger ver, was holding around 300k btc reportedly dumped for exchange of bitcoin unilimited in 2017 i don't if he did actually done it though, and also we have the largest bitcoin transaction which was done in 2011 valued at 500,000 btc i don't know what exactly happened but 194k bitcoin was part of 500k btc was dumped in bitstamp in 2013. anyways, the 94,000 bitcoin transaction is back at huobi exchange after the speculators seen the transaction lol.

 
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I suspect its Vitalik Buterin. How many people has 1 billion worth of cryptos?
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September 07, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
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Is this really a transaction of a certain "person"? I highly doubt it is. 1 Billion USD in Bitcoin alone and owned by a single person? This is unlikely. My hunch is that this is owned by an institution or a company.

Or do you think it is just a coincidence that after the move Bakkt announced its opening of its Bitcoin warehouse?

"It looks like the address of an entity like Bakkt or perhaps VanEck..."

Source: https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/09/06/bakkt-opens-warehouse-hours-after-94000-bitcoin-move

Its definitely a possibility that this is owned by a single person, there is a lot of hidden wealth in the world.  The forbes list is not the true list of wealthiest people in the world. 


If I was sending these types of amounts I would be checking the address 20 times and would still be super nervous about doing it correctly even though I've sent and received bitcoin many times in the past.
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September 07, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
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As long as the person has no criminal record, the government will do anything about it. But I don't like the idea of transferring fund from a centralized exchange to my main wallet, and this person's wallet is massive. Nothing to fear though, but keeping one's identity in a region that the government is still confused about bitcoin can be wise.

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Is this really a transaction of a certain "person"? I highly doubt it is. 1 Billion USD in Bitcoin alone and owned by a single person? This is unlikely. My hunch is that this is owned by an institution or a company.

Or do you think it is just a coincidence that after the move Bakkt announced its opening of its Bitcoin warehouse?

"It looks like the address of an entity like Bakkt or perhaps VanEck..."

Source: https://www.trustnodes.com/2019/09/06/bakkt-opens-warehouse-hours-after-94000-bitcoin-move
Yes, I also wanted to ask this question. If the sender's address belongs to Huobi exchange, it does not mean that the recipient's address belongs to a specific person. After all, it could even be Huobi transferring the money to a different wallet for their own reasons. Or something related to Bakkt, I saw people suggesting it before as well. And I don't understand why there's so much hype around this transaction. Clearly, as the price indicates, this movement is not related to buying/selling BTC, seems to be more of an operational thing.

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September 07, 2019, 11:48:11 AM
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The address below has received 94,500 bitcoins.
37XuVSEpWW4trkfmvWzegTHQt7BdktSKUs
According to what I read in some reports, it is the richest non-exchange address. I also read that at least one third of these bitcoin has been transferred from Huobi exchanges. As Withdrawing that big amount of bitcoin from Huobi exchange require KYC, so Huobi should know the person behind this transaction.
Assume that the government find this transaction suspicious and want to know the owner of these bitcoins. The government can force Huobi to give them the documents of the owner of this wallet. Huobi can be forced by court if they don't give those documents to government.

This is just pointless drama.Whoever it is,it doesn't matter that much for the crypto world.I think those bitcoins belong to a company,not an individual.It would be nice to have more crypto whales,who have more thna 1billion USD stored in bitcoin,but it would be more dangerious as well,because those people can do whatever they want with the bitcoin price.


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September 07, 2019, 11:59:14 AM
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My money is on "Bakkt" but I have nothing to back this opinion. It is a new service, so there are not a lot of tracking history to determine what service this is, like most of the other services that were identified through their transaction history.  Wink

A 1 Billion dollar transaction on the Stock exchanges will hardly get noticed, because institutional investors move that kind of money with a single click of a button, while they are eating a sandwich with the other hand.  Tongue 

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