[SOLVED] Abuser gave me a negative feedback.

[StonerStanley]

Hello, few years ago on this forum someone gave me a negative "trusted" feedback for nothing. It doesn't appear on my profile until today... (it was in "untrusted feedback" before)

ABitNut   2014-07-08   Reference   This is an alt account, so whoever you're dealing with is hiding.

This account made a lot of false accusations against lot of members, look at his feedback history.... and this feedback is non-sense. Please how to remove it ? If i start a thread for a project i'm gonna be labeled as a "probable scammer" which is innaceptable....

This kind of act should be bannable.

1: It's not an alt account.
2: Alt accounts are not prohibited.

Thanks.

[nc50lc]

First, Technical Support isn't the right board for this kind of issues (this belongs to meta).

Secondly, AbBitNut isn't even in the DT2/DT1 list so there's no way that "that" old trust rating will show by default.
Next, Trust isn't moderated: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ means that moderators will not meddle with trust issues (with some exceptions).
Lastly, check your Trust Settings if you've manually included him in your trust list or you might have selected Trust depth 3-4 and he's on that list.
If you did, set it back to default = 2.

[Vod]

This kind of act should be bannable.

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

[StonerStanley]

First, Technical Support isn't the right board for this kind of issues (this belongs to meta).

Secondly, AbBitNut isn't even in the DT2/DT1 list so there's no way that "that" old trust rating will show by default.
Next, Trust isn't moderated: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ means that moderators will not meddle with trust issues (with some exceptions).
Lastly, check your Trust Settings if you've manually included him in your trust list.

I can confirm you that the trust rating wasn't not show by default i checked my account few times per day in the previous days so it's 100% sure in the week i was even thinking about my trust rating. 100% sure.
There is nobody in my trusted list.

I have to present my project soon, so i'm gonna appear as a scammer, so i won't present my project on this forum which is a shame i'm here since 2014.......

This kind of act should be bannable.

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

Where i did it ? they did it to me so i replied Check the list of "untrusted feedback" in my profil, i only saw that today so i replied to all those untrusted and fake feedback. You don't seem to like me, why ? If someone come to your account and he give you a negative feedback for nothing, what you gonna do ? you will give him the same i bet.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

If someone come to your account and he give you a negative feedback for nothing, what you gonna do ? you will give him the same i bet.

Giving retaliative feedbacks doesn't solve the issue, it might make you feel good but it doesn't solve anything. Untrustworthy feedback (from non DT members) are as good as useless especially as it doesn't affect your profile or reputation (on the forum) unless, your trust page get viewed. If you think a users is abusing the trust system (multiple abuse and not just on your account), you can bring such cases opening to the public and that user might get what he/she deserves.

Hardly before you see any user doing something right not get a false feedbacks. So from my point of view, if you get a false feedbacks that doesn't affect your account, you let it go and continue your activity on he forum.

He is in DT2, due to some inclusions from a DT1. I see it under trusted feedback on OP, I am using default trust list FYI.

Thanks, just notice it also from using the default trust viewing option. Hope he resolved the issue soon.

[hacker1001101001]

It doesn't appear on my profile until today... (it was in "untrusted feedback" before)

It is because someone from DT1 has included @ABitNut to there trust list, which made his feedback as someone from DT2 and it appeared under trusted feedback this week.

As you can see, according to last Saturday's trust list update, no one from DT1 included him until then, hence the feedback appeared under untrusted feedback.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-08-31_Sat_06.04h/331100.html.

Please how to remove it ? If i start a thread for a project i'm gonna be labeled as a "probable scammer" which is innaceptable....

I see no solid, evidence ( like connected address ) of you being an alt of someone in the reference thread link posted with your tag so I am inclined to think it is a abuse. But the only way to get rig of it is to ask the persons himself to remove the tag from your account, or convince the DT1 who have included him in there trust list to remove him.

And yaa, that's not a bannable offence, so don't stir it !  

Secondly, AbBitNut isn't even in the DT2/DT1 list so there's no way that "that" old trust rating will show by default.

So from my point of view, if you get a false feedbacks that doesn't affect your account, you let it go and continue your activity on he forum.

He is in DT2, due to some inclusions from a DT1. I see it under trusted feedback on OP, I am using default trust list FYI.

[nc50lc]

Secondly, AbBitNut isn't even in the DT2/DT1 list so there's no way that "that" old trust rating will show by default.

So from my point of view, if you get a false feedbacks that doesn't affect your account, you let it go and continue your activity on he forum.

He is in DT2, due to some inclusions from a DT1. I see it under trusted feedback on OP, I am using default trust list FYI.

Weird, one of my trust list must have distrusted ~ABitNut thus removed him in the DT2 list on my trust page.
I'm not seeing the negative rating.

But it's displayed if I set my trust list to default.@StonerStanley It's not a major trust issue anyways, people usually refer to Trust flag for possible scammer profiles.

[ABitNut]

I've not been active on this forum for long. But I got a notification that I had a private message so I checked it out:

Few years ago you gave me a wrong feedback "untrust" saying that i'm an altcoin which is false. Now i gave you one negative feedback too saying that you are a scammer.

Delete your sh*t.

I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude
2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback
3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

So I'm disinclined to oblige your request.

Have a nice weekend.

[StonerStanley]

I've not been active on this forum for long. But I got a notification that I had a private message so I checked it out:

Few years ago you gave me a wrong feedback "untrust" saying that i'm an altcoin which is false. Now i gave you one negative feedback too saying that you are a scammer.

Delete your sh*t.

I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude
2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback
3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

So I'm disinclined to oblige your request.

Have a nice weekend.

It's false, all my feedbacks are real (talk about yours in first, be honest)

You admit to being wrong but don't want to delete your wrong feedback ? you are untrustable and a very dishonnest person.
You should understand why i reacted like that, look at your feedback history...

What a world i was born into. People who want the justice but act like you....

"delete your sh*t" is less rude than having a negative feedback for nothing real, but i'm gonna contact theymos.

As a developer, i find this "trust feedback" system is badly designed if there i no moderators to moderate the wrong and useless feedbacks.

[Vod]

This kind of act should be bannable.

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

Where i did it ? they did it to me so i replied

So then why this thread?

They did something to you.  You do it back to them. 
Why are you complaining about it?

[StonerStanley]

This kind of act should be bannable.

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

Where i did it ? they did it to me so i replied

So then why this thread?

They did something to you.  You do it back to them.  
Why are you complaining about it?

Why are you complaining about it? it's a bit crazy that you are complaining about something that has nothing to do with you while 'im complaining about my own case.

i started the thread after replied to the feedbacks. When you have +29 / -3 feedbacks like you then it's easy to talk.

And this thread is because i have serious projects to present so yes my reputation is important this guy isn't doing anything for the community and bring nobody.

By the way i never said to ban him "it should be bannable" to give fake feedbacks.

[LoyceV]

ABiNut has been included by TECSHARE for as long as I can see:

Trust list for: ABitNut (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-07_Sat_06.07h)
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ABitNut is Trusted by:
1. TECSHARE (Trust: +33 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (0) 397 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

What changed, is that TECSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago.

I checked the feedback I left. Yes, I called you out for being an alt account years ago. And that's exactly what my feedback means. I (as an individual) was convinced that the person that controlled your account had multiple accounts.

Your Reference link is a deleted post, and that thread doesn't show any evidence. You're on DT2 now, which means your feedback should be accurate and ideally convincing too. Can you convince me?
Note that having an alt-account by itself is not a valid reason to give red trust. You're included by TECSHARE, and I've often seen him ask for proper use of the Trust system. If you want to remain on DT2, it doesn't hurt to convince your DT1 "sponsor" that your feedback is accurate.

Now I'd be open to reasonable arguments but:

1) Your message to me is rude

Being on DT means you should have a thicker skin. Being rude shouldn't be the reason to leave red feedback on any account.

2) You're abusing the trust system by leaving false feedback

True. StonerStanley: until today, you hadn't sent any feedback, now you're retaliating. That doesn't help your case.
You should at least supply proper Reference links to your accusations.

i'm gonna contact theymos.

You're wasting your and his time. Feedback isn't moderated.

3) You're accusing me of being a scammer

Being on DT, that's not a reason to tag an account. You may want to read the arguments in this thread, from when I received a similar incorrect tag.

But it's displayed if I set my trust list to default.

Add ;dt to any URL to view it as DT. Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=348604;dt

[TECSHARE]

StonerStanley, remove your retaliatory negative rating and I will help you sort this out. Your rating is not a valid use of the trust system. If you must, a neutral rating would be appropriate, but also counterproductive for you.

[StonerStanley]

StonerStanley, remove your retaliatory negative rating and I will help you sort this out. Your rating is not a valid use of the trust system. If you must, a neutral rating would be appropriate, but also counterproductive for you.

Ok thanks.

I know it's not good to act like i that but i felt angry.

I remove my feedback.

[TECSHARE]

StonerStanley, remove your retaliatory negative rating and I will help you sort this out. Your rating is not a valid use of the trust system. If you must, a neutral rating would be appropriate, but also counterproductive for you.

Ok thanks.

I know it's not good to act like i that but i felt angry.

I remove my feedback.

Great. That is understandable, but you are really only hurting yourself. Please observe how to approach such a situation in a more productive manner.

ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.

[marlboroza]

I checked reference link and it points to missing post, however, someone archived it http://web.archive.org/web/20150517200326/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.20 (post #29), StonerStanly posted:

Vod is an abuser and he's a moderators friend, i already got the experience from them Wink so don't waste your time, like me: make a new account and be careful when you talk because this forum is full of corrupted/idiots mods.

ps: yes this is not my main acc.

Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback, however, I am really surprised that OP said it is not alt account while they clearly said it is. Question is, which main account has been tagged (hm...banned?) and for what reason?

[TECSHARE]

I checked reference link and it points to missing post, however, someone archived it http://web.archive.org/web/20150517200326/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.20 (post #29), StonerStanly posted:

Vod is an abuser and he's a moderators friend, i already got the experience from them Wink so don't waste your time, like me: make a new account and be careful when you talk because this forum is full of corrupted/idiots mods.

ps: yes this is not my main acc.

Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback, however, I am really surprised that OP said it is not alt account while they clearly said it is. Question is, which main account has been tagged (hm...banned?) and for what reason?

Irrelevant. This s not the intended use of the trust system. This is a, matter for moderator if anyone. Also at this point your involvement is unrequested and counterproductive.

[StonerStanley]

I checked reference link and it points to missing post, however, someone archived it http://web.archive.org/web/20150517200326/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677224.20 (post #29), StonerStanly posted:

Vod is an abuser and he's a moderators friend, i already got the experience from them Wink so don't waste your time, like me: make a new account and be careful when you talk because this forum is full of corrupted/idiots mods.

ps: yes this is not my main acc.

Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback, however, I am really surprised that OP said it is not alt account while they clearly said it is. Question is, which main account has been tagged (hm...banned?) and for what reason?

No. It's not an alternative account, it wasn't my main account in 2015 when i written the message you quote (because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name)

Anyway i'm gonna present my project here in 2020 so people will know my identity and they will also know that i'm not someone that is hiding himself behind an alternative account like the negative feedback is saying.


(i removed the post because of people like you who don't search to understand why i made a new account, which is obvious.... But that doesn't change the situation: I'm Real. And i doesnt even have the password
of my old account... and i don't sell anything so why i would hide myself since all this times ?)

[marlboroza]

because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback

Irrelevant. This s not the intended use of the trust system.

I posted my observation, but why are you repeating what I have said?

This is a, matter for moderator if anyone.

Trust is not moderated so it is not for moderator.

Also at this point your involvement is unrequested and counterproductive.

So is your involvment in DT. Go spam somewhere else.

[Vod]

What changed, is that TECHSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.

ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.

@ABiNut, no one will blame you if you tell the hypocrite TECHSHARE to fuck off.   He really should look at his abusive feedback before he comments on others.  If TECHY threatens to distrust if you don't do as he demands, myself and many others will counter his baseless accusation.