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https://medium.com/@samwill102244/the-tulip-trust-is-fake-8f1e15fae491

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The Tulip Trust is fake.
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Here are 3 reasons why.

Craig Wright’s story involves a Trust document between himself and David Kleiman created in June, 2011. This Trust was supposedly superseded by more formal Trusts, but this article will only focus on this first Trust document. This original Tulip Trust has recently been defended by Eli Afram as not sufficiently proven to be a fake. I will show that it is undeniably a fake, and Afram is either complicit in the lie or just a willing pawn.

The original documents are available at this link. The file called “requested_attached..rar” contains the same .msg file submitted by Wright’s team as part of discovery. That file includes three attachments: the original Tulip Trust PDF (Tulip Trust.pdf), a PGP signature for that file (Tulip Trust.pdf.asc) and a PGP-encrypted .tar file (Tulip Trust.pdf.tar.asc). The PDF’s signature correctly validates the PDF file against “David A Kleiman”’s public key. While there are no obvious errors with dates and times, there are several undeniable mistakes that prove this is a forgery.
The Tulip Trust PDF was actually signed by “David A Kleiman”’s PGP key, but not actually in 2011.
Reason Number 1: the GnuPG version headers indicate the document was signed after 2013

Dr. Matthew Edman described how the GnuPG software would include the full version number during the time period when the Tulip Trust was supposedly signed. For example: “Version: GnuPG v2.0.22”

The change to emit only the major version was made in late November, 2013, and released in mid-2014.
Change to only emit major version (eg — Version: GnuPG v2)

The armor version in both .asc files contains only the major version.
GnuPG v2 would have been emitted after late 2013

While the version number itself is not signed, it is unbelievable that someone would manually edit the number to remove the minor version. This shows that the signature was not actually made until at least late 2013, and the key did not belong to David Kleiman.
Reason Number 2: three of the PGP keys referenced in the Trust document are backdated
Wright’s keys were not updated.

This argument has been around for a while. However, the rebuttal given by Craig Wright has been thoroughly debunked. In a nutshell, the evidence is that the keys referenced in the Tulip Trust have certain algorithms in a certain order that were incredibly unlikely to have been present at the time they were created. Wright’s paper argued that the keys could have been updated at a later time. However, updating a PGP key to include a different set of those algorithms would re-sign the key, and update the timestamp to match when they were updated and re-signed. This did not happen with Wright’s key, so we know they were not updated. They were just backdated to 2008.

Additionally, Wright’s key includes a signed User ID Packet:
Email with domain integyrs.com supposedly signed in January 2008.

The signature was supposedly created on January 17, 2008 using an email address of craig@integyrs.com.

However, the domain integrys.com did not exist until April 26, 2009.
domaintools history for Integyrs.com

The business itself was not registered until May 11, 2009.
Integyrs business registration

Either Wright somehow knew that he would use that email address almost a year and a half before he bothered to register it, or the key was not actually created in 2008.
Reason Number 3: the emails and PDF files containing the Trust files were forged

As part of the discovery process, Wright turned over a number of PDFs and emails relating to the Tulip Trust. These have all been shown to be forgeries. An excellent detailed summary of the recent court proceedings can be read here. Basically, the PDFs contained metadata that included email headers which showed the message was actually sent from Wright to himself in 2014.

In addition, the PDFs also had metadata showing the PDF document itself was modified to change the text to indicate the message was sent in 2011 instead of 2014.
From wizsec.

Finally, Dr. Edman analyzed a .msg file and found it, too, had been forged.
Unix Timestamp (with milliseconds) highlighted.

It includes a Unix timestamp on the receiving SMTP server ID. The timestamp is October 24, 2012 in UTC. This indicates this .msg file was simply modified from an existing .msg file around late 2012.

However, Eli Afram’s version of the .msg file does not seem to include that timestamp.
Eli Afram’s version seems to be a truncated and modified version of the ‘original’ .msg file

His version does not include many of the header fields from the .msg file submitted by Wright. Also, the Message-ID is completely different. Finally, the timezone of the Date field indicates a UK timezone, when the ‘original’ .msg header indicated a timezone consistent with Florida, where Kleiman lived.

The question is, why is Afram talking about this new .msg file and throwing around accusations that Wright did not get a chance to submit it as evidence?

Is he lying or is he simply a willing pawn?

Many thanks to @jimmy007forsure and @wizsecurity


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Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF


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Nobody really knows, except a very few.

But I like how this guy tries to go down the rabbit hole

https://youtu.be/uyMXjSA3Rds

And true, how decide on 'partnership'?

And how so much 'forgery' next to computer forensics in the house?

Was there some other 'experts' close by with open bills to pay back?



Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

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Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

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In before "Craig S. Wright, not an actual person, but an alias of another person who claims to be another person who invented Bitcoin". Hahaha.

Reminds me of the character Robert Downey played in Tropic Thunder.


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Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

If he really is Satoshi the thing he was doxxed and hacked, it would make sense. He was stating such quite frequently and also when 'he came out" with all of that.

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Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

If he really is Satoshi the thing he was doxxed and hacked, it would make sense. He was stating such quite frequently and also when 'he came out" with all of that.

That doesn't make sense at all.
He was not doxxed, but he came out of nowwhere trying to convince people of him being SN using forgery and lies all over his path.

What makes sense is, that he has read about his old colleague computer expert Dave Kleiman (RIP) being one of the people said to be a possible Satoshi Nakamoto candidate. As he was in financial trouble, he used this rumour and Dave Kleimans death to build up his story. I guess the main reason would be to find investors that he can dupe or old creditors that he has to pay.

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Some additional info:

https://twitter.com/kyletorpey/status/968187874268114944
Wright used a font called Otto to forge Dave Kleiman's signature

http://archive.is/wiNYc
Dr. Wright and the altered PDF



We could agree on: Some used to do the forgery. No evidence for who actually was it.

In a mass documents producing process for court all the shit might happen as well.

So you think CSW has been bamboozled and he is probably the victim here?

If he really is Satoshi the thing he was doxxed and hacked, it would make sense. He was stating such quite frequently and also when 'he came out" with all of that.

That doesn't make sense at all.
He was not doxxed, but he came out of nowwhere trying to convince people of him being SN using forgery and lies all over his path.

What makes sense is, that he has read about his old colleague computer expert Dave Kleiman (RIP) being one of the people said to be a possible Satoshi Nakamoto candidate. As he was in financial trouble, he used this rumour and Dave Kleimans death to build up his story. I guess the main reason would be to find investors that he can dupe or old creditors that he has to pay.

I see. But what makes u sure he wasn t doxxed? He claims in his first interviews that this all shouln t ve happened that way.

And he was in trouble cause of ATO such that he d to close companies where coworkers got in troubles as well. Even try ti steal his funds ...

Again we have no evidence but things make sense that way

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Ideally CWS would suffer some serious consequences for lying to the court and forging evidence, and of course trying to steal Satoshi's identity, but I doubt that it will happen, if the court is so incompetent that they've let in all slip under their noses, CWS will just continue fooling everyone, because that's what con artists do. This case is no different from how he tricked those journalists a few years ago with his fake signatures.

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But what makes u sure he wasn t doxxed? He claims in his first interviews that this all shouln t ve happened that way.

He announced to the entire internet that he was Satoshi Nakamoto and then went on to claim that he didn't want any publicity.  That would be like me announcing I'm the second coming of Christ and then saying "but don't tell anyone".  

I get why you're eager to defend the man, as he says lots of things that support your personal views about how Bitcoin should work, but there comes a time where you should probably just recognise him for what he is:  A liar.

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Something that always baffled me, was that Craig Wright was already a very talented and rich person before he started all these antics. He also planned way in advance for most of these stunts, so this was not just something he put together in a week or two..  Roll Eyes

What would be the ultimate goal for people like this to go through such extremes to try and fool people that they are someone controversial as Satoshi Nakamoto. Money is obviously not the only motivating factor behind this, because he has some money.  Tongue   Fame and fortune drive people crazy.  Shocked

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But what makes u sure he wasn t doxxed? He claims in his first interviews that this all shouln t ve happened that way.

He announced to the entire internet that he was Satoshi Nakamoto and then went on to claim that he didn't want any publicity.  That would be like me announcing I'm the second coming of Christ and then saying "but don't tell anyone".  

I get why you're eager to defend the man, as he says lots of things that support your personal views about how Bitcoin should work, but there comes a time where you should probably just recognise him for what he is:  A liar.


We might agree upon that Satoshi is gone and Bitcoin should not need any central figure to ensure governance of it, but that is some ideal that might not be that whatever we have, for sure not with core and BS

Bitcoin should not be about what individuals tell us Bitcoin should be, but what Satoshi has created it.

Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not, but all others want him to be the liar, don't getting real evidence, rather only fishy hints he might.

Anyhow all this shows how the social media and fake proofs work these days.

Metanet is about to fix it, despite what CSW says or does.




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This crypto circus has been going on for a while and it seems the odds are not in favor on Craig Wright's side which I think could very

well damage his reputation and integrity! I think it might be better if he could distance himself from BCHSV project to prevent it from

being dragged down to the bottom along with faketoshi. Smiley
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CSW is been proved a fraud multiple times. He could be suffering from some sort of mental disorder but that doesn't completely redeem of his criminal acts. He could have possibly know about the Satoshi and knew that satoshi won't claim back his identity, that whether he was dead or is a large criminal.

There would be multiple opportunities for people to correct themselves but if they refuse to do so, they'll eventually end up being a criminal. The more you hide your mistakes, the more larger lies you need to make.



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September 07, 2019, 02:58:33 PM
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Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not, but all others want him to be the liar, don't getting real evidence, rather only fishy hints he might.

he is the liar no matter how you define being a liar means.
his attempts has been of power grabbing agenda and personal profit making type. on top of that his lies are not just about claiming to be Satoshi, but insisting on it for years and even be foolish enough to try and convince people with a fake signature thinking the world is stupid enough to not know how cryptography works!

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September 07, 2019, 03:25:04 PM
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Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not, but all others want him to be the liar, don't getting real evidence, rather only fishy hints he might.

he is the liar no matter how you define being a liar means.
his attempts has been of power grabbing agenda and personal profit making type. on top of that his lies are not just about claiming to be Satoshi, but insisting on it for years and even be foolish enough to try and convince people with a fake signature thinking the world is stupid enough to not know how cryptography works!

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

He did P2P, pretty much like BitCoin works.

So to find out the truth is always about doing PoW, do ur own studies. Like BitCoin works, find ur own blocks.

And doing just trolls a favor, like move a coin, I d not follow such wish either.

This, btw, is also no poof he is Satoshi

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September 07, 2019, 06:56:09 PM
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Nobody really knows, except a very few.

what's the explanation for all the forgeries? why keep your faith in someone who has offered no proof, and a boatload of lies?

Any ppl try to govern Bitcoin and grap the power and alter it for sake of any hidden agenda, these are the liars. In that view CSW is not

all he does is FUD the market while trying to pump BSV. the only rational explanation for CSW emerging as a self-proclaimed satoshi is so he could grab power and facilitate his own agenda.

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

He did P2P, pretty much like BitCoin works.

he can't prove anything to anybody. all he has are endless elaborate excuses. somehow, his inflated ego and megalomania appeal to some people and that's how he retains a following.

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September 07, 2019, 07:13:06 PM
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Yet another statement/claim made by CW proven to be fake, can't wait for another sue attempt against CW Tongue

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

And he also can't prove anything to non-troll (journalist, cryptographer, etc.)

If one can't prove his/her claim, then he/she shouldn't state such claim in first time.

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September 07, 2019, 08:17:58 PM
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Yet another statement/claim made by CW proven to be fake, can't wait for another sue attempt against CW Tongue

Nope, he just cannot prove anything to trolls, there is no way to do it.

And he also can't prove anything to non-troll (journalist, cryptographer, etc.)

If one can't prove his/her claim, then he/she shouldn't state such claim in first time.

Right, seems he never really  wanted to.



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September 07, 2019, 08:38:08 PM
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Is there anything related to CSW/Satoshi to be proven to be true except that CSW is not Satoshi??
He is a madman suing people for not believing his lies.
There are 1000 ways to prove a simple thing and yet he is continuing with this circus, he is just pathological lier or schizophrenic really believing that he is someone that he is not. Keep talking about him is like feeding the troll, that's what he wants... Attention.

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