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September 11, 2019, 08:21:29 AM |
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Huge Country means more people more people means Also more money.
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September 11, 2019, 08:26:23 AM |
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Huge Country means more people more people means Also more money.
But this topic is about average savings not the total savings. And also poor countries has most richest people but their government is only poor.
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September 11, 2019, 09:42:19 AM |
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but Canadians won't really get many billionaires. because when saving too much, the cash flow in Canada will be greatly reduced and not generate profits for the whole country. Saving is one of the worst methods, we should really look for something to invest and always make a profit every year so our money doesn't lose value due to inflation.
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September 11, 2019, 09:42:35 AM |
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Lol, this is very informative, I can't imagine that some people are even living above their earning to the extent of having debt. Could it be that their cost of living is high? If the cost of living is high, then they should cut it down, because no one can tell me that it is tax that does that.
I have made attempt several times to relocate to the united states, but they kept discouraging me that the standard of their living is too high and that they paid tax a lot, and this makes me wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
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September 11, 2019, 12:29:37 PM |
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For me I don't see it as something to rejoice about for increased savings because it connotes lack of understanding on the part of the populace who likely believed that saving would make them rich eventually whereas the opposite is the case. A bank would encourage you to save so easily but not so easy to get loan in other to pursue a dream that would make you wealthy whereas the rich people can have access to all of these saving with little or no stress because they have the collateral and the right connections among the top hierarchy of the banks who could make funds available for them without too much stress eventually the rich get getting richer. If they don't save, they probably knows the reason why they are not mostly because they are already in debt so they take their money out of the banking system for the fear of direct debit or because they just want to enjoy life to the fullest not knowing what would happen the next day. Its that simple.
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September 11, 2019, 03:02:15 PM |
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Some people don't save although they live a simple life. Many people in the world find it very difficult to eat more than once a day due to poverty. Imagine if you are to be in such situation how can you use save for the future. Eventually, the few money you would gain would be used to cover basic needs your family needs.
Couldn't agree more with you, at some places people struggle to even survive living the life , never crossed in their mind to save money cause yeah they have not any / nothing left. But here's actually the concept of saving itself is not like these : You can buy a luxury car with $1,000 back in 1900 ... Can you imagine if you do save that $1,000 and spend it later today ? Yes you can buy an average bicycle Saving is not just about keeping money these days , practically it should be about putting money into something that could protect you from inflation ..... and the perfect form of this is cryptocurrency for me personally.
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September 11, 2019, 03:10:34 PM |
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Savings is a big thing that helps big with the growth of a country's economy. In my country half the earning will be saved for the future. This can be for the children and for the emergency needs. These days this has decreased a lot, as people just insure and pay premium for health and go with EMI on products that isn't affordable instantly. This has caused the savings go low day by day, but they've a satisfaction. Here the risk is at the times of economic downturn, because we don't know whether we'll be in the job tomorrow.
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September 11, 2019, 03:17:46 PM |
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Lol, this is very informative, I can't imagine that some people are even living above their earning to the extent of having debt. Could it be that their cost of living is high? If the cost of living is high, then they should cut it down, because no one can tell me that it is tax that does that.
I have made attempt several times to relocate to the united states, but they kept discouraging me that the standard of their living is too high and that they paid tax a lot, and this makes me wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
Not everyone can just cut their cost of living at will. People have medical expenses that aren't cheap and school in the United States is very expensive if you want to get a degree in something. Housing costs are continually rising and employers aren't increasing wages of their employees except for high level executives.
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September 11, 2019, 08:02:46 PM |
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Lol, this is very informative, I can't imagine that some people are even living above their earning to the extent of having debt. Could it be that their cost of living is high? If the cost of living is high, then they should cut it down, because no one can tell me that it is tax that does that.
I have made attempt several times to relocate to the united states, but they kept discouraging me that the standard of their living is too high and that they paid tax a lot, and this makes me wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
Inflation is one thing what makes prices going high! Yea USA will be great Place to live, im sure I would love to live in Miami or new York, if new York then I would like to work at wall street... Lol But inflation makes First the Property price go high
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September 11, 2019, 08:04:51 PM |
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Lol, this is very informative, I can't imagine that some people are even living above their earning to the extent of having debt. Could it be that their cost of living is high? If the cost of living is high, then they should cut it down, because no one can tell me that it is tax that does that.
I have made attempt several times to relocate to the united states, but they kept discouraging me that the standard of their living is too high and that they paid tax a lot, and this makes me wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
Not everyone can just cut their cost of living at will. People have medical expenses that aren't cheap and school in the United States is very expensive if you want to get a degree in something. Housing costs are continually rising and employers aren't increasing wages of their employees except for high level executives. That's true! Speaccially in Uk where is very expensive but wages seems to be stay Same or Even going lower
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September 12, 2019, 09:49:56 AM |
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I have debt but I am still hoping to get paid all of that. I DONT HAVE SAVINGS RIGHT NOW. But of course, I don't want to be like this for life. I want to have a better life. Most people here in our country has a lot of debt. So you are still lucky to have savings.
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September 12, 2019, 02:24:39 PM |
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Partly depends on the culture and also whether policies make it easier/safer to save. It's doable but it can be hard if you're cash-strapped to begin with. Don't Singapore require its citizens to set a part of their income for savings?
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September 12, 2019, 03:33:23 PM |
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When a country has a good number of people who are into savings money, there is a strong probability that its economy is doing well and can easily survive many economic and political catastrophes. That is why saving should have been a priority program for any county as a way to flourish and not just survive. Right now, USA is still not on a good shape as it is remains to be burdened by huge debt and soon this can be a big trap withering its global leadership into thin air. The country's formula of quantitative easing will be coming back to its economy like a big and scary monster.
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One must factor in the cost of living, average income and of course, taxes in the country. Those who save much are probably those that are living in countries where the economy is booming and no problems whatsoever occurring. There are quite a handful of people saving more than enough in the midst of poverty in a poor country but that isn't simply enough to lift/pad the stats up. Well I guess it boils down to lifestyle choices as well, too, and not just the whole macroeconomic aspect of saving.
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September 12, 2019, 05:17:48 PM |
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The average personal amount of savings are between $ 2,900 for the USA
Why does this not surprise me? People here are addicted to credit cards, keeping up with the Joneses, and living well beyond their means. I've met too many of them in my lifetime to count--people living from paycheck to paycheck, and yet they're driving huge SUVs, eating out all the time, and have way too much crap in their houses. It's an insane mindstate. Luckily I grew out of the temptation to do the above years ago, but it isn't like I don't see the appeal of owning tons of stuff. When you can't afford it, however.....yeah. I think this is a generational problem, too. My grandparents owned a house, but it wasn't anything fancy and they worked all their lives. The key thing was that they didn't incur tons of debt. I thought millenials were supposed to be breaking the bad habits of the previous two generations, but who knows. You can't always believe what you read--and from what I hear those millenials have a lot of student debt which could be keeping them from saving money.
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September 12, 2019, 05:34:51 PM |
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I think this is a generational problem, too. My grandparents owned a house, but it wasn't anything fancy and they worked all their lives. The key thing was that they didn't incur tons of debt. I thought millenials were supposed to be breaking the bad habits of the previous two generations, but who knows. You can't always believe what you read--and from what I hear those millenials have a lot of student debt which could be keeping them from saving money.
Not all debt is the same. I got a mortgage but LTV is below 50% so I'm far better off with it than renting, even if another housing bubble pops. A capable CS student can pay off $100k in student debt in a few years whereas an art major would likely be totally screwed. Unfortunately trying to avoid debt when everyone around you is borrowing would be a losing strategy in the long run.
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September 12, 2019, 05:38:02 PM |
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Inflation is one thing what makes prices going high! Yea USA will be great Place to live, im sure I would love to live in Miami or new York, if new York then I would like to work at wall street... Lol
But inflation makes First the Property price go high
I guess we have another whale or do we call them market makers in the making lol. This issue of inflation is really becoming very terrible in United states and I didn’t know what the government of united states is doing about this, they had better control it before you see the rich tuning to a poor person because really, I agree with sana, how can someone be earning that much, only to be able to have a take home of Such amount of money at the end of the year, and it in directly means that they are just working for their country. I am not sure that if they ever offer me to live in the united States, I will ever take it, except maybe I’m going there as an expatriate, then I know that all my expenses will be paid in full and I would have nothing to worry about those their expensive accommodation.
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September 12, 2019, 05:48:50 PM |
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wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
Some extremely rough averages for cost of living in the USA, sort of an average between individual and family numbers that I could find... 58000 (example income) - 10497 (federal income tax) - 2900 (state income tax, a very rough average, this can vary a LOT) - 17796 (housing cost, including property tax) - 1524 (gasoline for car) - 1116 (car insurance) - 5796 (car loan payment) - 1800 (heating and a/c) - 1200 (internet) - 540 (water/sewage) - 6602 (food) - 960 (cellphone) - 6924 (healthcare insurance) - 6170 (healthcare insurance deductible - you must pay this before you get benefits from insurance) => 63825 average expenditure leaving you with a grand total of -5825 usd you can sock away for your glorious poverty stricken retirement. And the above doesn't include averaged college tuition cost, which you will most definitely need if you want to guarantee a chance at 58000 usd per year salary. Note median household income in the USA is 61372 (from 2017) so there's approx 150 million people that are making lower than this. And it becomes a little clearer why the savings rate is so low.
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September 12, 2019, 06:08:27 PM |
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wonder why someone would earn $58,000 in a year and only able to save $11000, is that not too low? What exactly did they spend their money on? Groceries or what? My country, with that $58000, I will surely save at least $30000 per year. For me, I am still able to save at least.
Some extremely rough averages for cost of living in the USA, sort of an average between individual and family numbers that I could find... 58000 (example income) - 10497 (federal income tax) - 2900 (state income tax, a very rough average, this can vary a LOT) - 17796 (housing cost, including property tax) - 1524 (gasoline for car) - 1116 (car insurance) - 5796 (car loan payment) - 1800 (heating and a/c) - 1200 (internet) - 540 (water/sewage) - 6602 (food) - 960 (cellphone) - 6924 (healthcare insurance) - 6170 (healthcare insurance deductible - you must pay this before you get benefits from insurance) => 63825 average expenditure leaving you with a grand total of -5825 usd you can sock away for your glorious poverty stricken retirement. And the above doesn't include averaged college tuition cost, which you will most definitely need if you want to guarantee a chance at 58000 usd per year salary. Note median household income in the USA is 61372 (from 2017) so there's approx 150 million people that are making lower than this. And it becomes a little clearer why the savings rate is so low. Every debit is someones credit. To get debit someone have to borrow that Its like chair game with music, when music is stopped Everybody start fighting to get chair. There is never enough money to cover debt If it was the money will have no value! No Wonder Why Trump want rate cuts, its a Economic regressions over usa now That's Why. Rate cut will be the artificial way to boost economy until new regressions.
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September 12, 2019, 06:22:22 PM |
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Savings are basically more when when the spending is lesser, or essentially in places where the cost of living is comparatively lesser. For example, look at this comparison between Bern(Switzerland) and Washington DC(US): https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Switzerland&country2=United+States&city1=Bern&city2=Washington%2C+DCThe rent is 98% more higher in Washington DC when compared to Bern. So basically, in theory, if you spend 1000$ for rent in Bern, you'd spend 1980$ in Washington DC. So obviously the savings are lower. And besides, due the recession almost every country is in shambles, and there's no room for savings whatsoever.
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