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Breaking news which came out a couple of hours ago.
John Bolton, Trumps National Security Advisor, has been fired by Trump. Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc. Bolton had feuded with many in the administration on many occassions, including President Trump, Sec of State Mike Pompeo, and so on and so forth.
Would love to hear what people think about this firing, as this really did come out of left field.
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Breaking news which came out a couple of hours ago.
John Bolton, Trumps National Security Advisor, has been fired by Trump. Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc. Bolton had feuded with many in the administration on many occassions, including President Trump, Sec of State Mike Pompeo, and so on and so forth.
Would love to hear what people think about this firing, as this really did come out of left field.
IMO he was just using him to keep the hawks off balance and satiated like they had an in for a while. A keep your enemies closer kind of thing. I feel like he had a rather tight leash on him during his tenure and was using him as a bogey man/sock puppet to keep people distracted. Now that the military is shifting its focus toward Asia, the old Middle East war hawks are increasingly irrelevant. This is in addition to him now having more control over this whole clusterfuck Russia collusion narrative. He now has a lot of the individuals responsible for this coup attempt by the balls, and as a result he has a lot more room to resist the Neocon/RINO establishment.
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Breaking news which came out a couple of hours ago.
John Bolton, Trumps National Security Advisor, has been fired by Trump. Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc. Bolton had feuded with many in the administration on many occassions, including President Trump, Sec of State Mike Pompeo, and so on and so forth.
Would love to hear what people think about this firing, as this really did come out of left field.
I'd reinstall Flynn. But that's just me...
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September 11, 2019, 01:29:24 AM |
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He claims he resigned. You believe Trump??
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Breaking news which came out a couple of hours ago.
John Bolton, Trumps National Security Advisor, has been fired by Trump. Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc. Bolton had feuded with many in the administration on many occassions, including President Trump, Sec of State Mike Pompeo, and so on and so forth.
Would love to hear what people think about this firing, as this really did come out of left field.
I'd reinstall Flynn. But that's just me... Can you imagine the raucous autistic screeching that would occur if Trump pardoned him and appointed him to a cabinet position? The funniest part is it would just draw more attention to him being steamrolled illegally.
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September 11, 2019, 03:32:00 AM |
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He claims he resigned. You believe Trump??
Resigning and being fired are often the same thing. Also - A letter of resignation is not effective unless accepted. Some bosses get a letter of resignation on the first day of hire, and hold on to it until they want to execute it. Breaking news which came out a couple of hours ago.
John Bolton, Trumps National Security Advisor, has been fired by Trump. Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc. Bolton had feuded with many in the administration on many occassions, including President Trump, Sec of State Mike Pompeo, and so on and so forth.
Would love to hear what people think about this firing, as this really did come out of left field.
I'd reinstall Flynn. But that's just me... Can you imagine the raucous autistic screeching that would occur if Trump pardoned him and appointed him to a cabinet position? The funniest part is it would just draw more attention to him being steamrolled illegally. I'd love it. Reverse Kavanaugh tactic.
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September 11, 2019, 04:30:42 AM |
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He claims he resigned. You believe Trump??
He claims he resigned, Trump says he fired him. I don't think it really matters, though I do think that Trump fired him. I guess it could also be an issue of Trump asking for a resignation could be interpreted as resignation by Bolton if he was to just say yes and agree to resign. This is just more drama in an administration which is filled with it. Can't wait to see who replaces Bolton though, this will show the way that Trump is planning to go on foreign policy for his releection.
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... Can't wait to see who replaces Bolton though, this will show the way that Trump is planning to go on foreign policy for his releection.
Based on Trump's performance so far I'm expecting him to find someone even worse than Bolton. It's hard to think of any worse un-American traitor off-hand. Maybe Joe Lieberman? Rabbi Dov Zakhiem perhaps? Probably it'll be Jarred Kushner. Need a hard-core Zionist for the upcoming war with Iran. Someone who will nuke the non-chosen en-mass and who has the guts to sacrifice a bunch of the 'chosen' as well. 'Burnt Offerings' dontcha know? It'll be worth it to usher in the Messianic Age.
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September 11, 2019, 01:38:06 PM |
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... Can't wait to see who replaces Bolton though, this will show the way that Trump is planning to go on foreign policy for his releection.
Based on Trump's performance so far I'm expecting him to find someone even worse than Bolton. It's hard to think of any worse un-American traitor off-hand. Maybe Joe Lieberman? Rabbi Dov Zakhiem perhaps? Probably it'll be Jarred Kushner. Need a hard-core Zionist for the upcoming war with Iran. Someone who will nuke the non-chosen en-mass and who has the guts to sacrifice a bunch of the 'chosen' as well. 'Burnt Offerings' dontcha know? It'll be worth it to usher in the Messianic Age. Honestly at this point it's pretty tough to find someone worse then Bolton, as he's a hawk. He's going to pick someone who has little to no ideology (or if one, maybe someone that wants to end foreign wars) and they're just going to be at Trumps pleasure. So yeah, don't expect this pick to be too crazy.
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September 11, 2019, 02:30:55 PM |
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There are a few people looking for jobs at the moment. Theresa May, and Bercow for example. Angela Merkel could help him with immigration. Juan Guaidó could help him to take control of countries with un-American politics.
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Word is that Adelson told Trump to put in Bolton or else. From: https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/59jbvk/what-you-need-to-know-about-super-hawk-john-bolton“ He’s a bomb thrower,” Ailes said of Bolton. “ And a strange little fucker. But you need him.” I'd bet money that Bolton has ' been over to Epstein's house' so-to-speak and that's why he's out on his keister. More to follow. Probably half of Trump's team has done the dirty. Likely more than half.
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September 11, 2019, 11:49:05 PM |
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Woah. That's an insane allegation to attempt to make, and I doubt that's the case. Trump picked him because he was on fox news all the time defending the Trump admin, shitting on Obama and Clinton, and so on. He was someone who was big on America first, and Trump thought that'd he would be loyal to the admin and would provide expertise ( as he is a smart guy)
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Woah. That's an insane allegation to attempt to make, and I doubt that's the case. Trump picked him because he was on fox news all the time defending the Trump admin, shitting on Obama and Clinton, and so on. He was someone who was big on America first, and Trump thought that'd he would be loyal to the admin and would provide expertise ( as he is a smart guy) Lol. I'd hate to meet an 'America Last' person then! And being called a 'strange little fucker' by the likes of Roger Ailes is quite an accomplishment. I'm sure Ailes has his reasons. Trump's mentor was Roy Cohn. You clearly don't have have a very clear picture of what we're dealing with here. Don't worry; it'll come into focus...just not on Jewtube. There is a reason for the desperation behind the censorship push and it is a LOT bigger than just 'picking on right-wingers.'
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September 12, 2019, 01:39:01 PM |
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It was a terrible decision to hire him in the first place. Bolton is a merciless warmonger who's never heard of an intervention he didn't like.
I like that Trump has lately been particularly anti-war, apparently actively seeking to reduce war risk in Afghanistan and Iran. He's probably more anti-war than all but a couple of the Democratic candidates would be, surprisingly. The neocon establishment still has a lot of influence over him, though: just look at the fact that Pompeo is secretary of state.
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September 12, 2019, 02:48:07 PM |
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A letter of resignation is not effective unless accepted. Some bosses get a letter of resignation on the first day of hire, and hold on to it until they want to execute it.
What? Non-US here, how the hell does that work? If you want to resign and your boss refuses you're supposed to continue working? Oo Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc
IMO he was just using him to keep the hawks off balance and satiated like they had an in for a while.
Again, non US here, what does hawk mean? Both wikipedia and linguee agree on the fact that it's a bird but I guess it's also English slang for something else, anyone could give me a small definition?
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September 12, 2019, 02:56:05 PM |
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A letter of resignation is not effective unless accepted. Some bosses get a letter of resignation on the first day of hire, and hold on to it until they want to execute it.
What? Non-US here, how the hell does that work? If you want to resign and your boss refuses you're supposed to continue working? Oo Bolton is known for being a hawk and supporting regime change in Iran, North Korea, etc
IMO he was just using him to keep the hawks off balance and satiated like they had an in for a while.
Again, non US here, what does hawk mean? Both wikipedia and linguee agree on the fact that it's a bird but I guess it's also English slang for something else, anyone could give me a small definition? Hawk means that someone who supports war, someone who wants would much rather use military force and threats rather down diplomacy. Doves would be the opposite. In the US, sometimes Presidents will ask a collection of cabinet members (or anyone that they can hire and fire as they please) for their resignation and then they'll pick who they want to allow to resign. Resigning would, in theory, allow for someone to collect benefits if they're eligible instead of just being fired. Plus there is much more decency in just resigning instead of being fired. Take Preet Bharara as an example. Trumps DOJ, when they first came in, asked some federal attorneys for their resignations. Preet had been one of them, and he failed to give in his resignation. He was then terminated.
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September 12, 2019, 03:11:06 PM |
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In the US, sometimes Presidents will ask a collection of cabinet members (or anyone that they can hire and fire as they please) for their resignation and then they'll pick who they want to allow to resign. Resigning would, in theory, allow for someone to collect benefits if they're eligible instead of just being fired. Plus there is much more decency in just resigning instead of being fired.
Take Preet Bharara as an example. Trumps DOJ, when they first came in, asked some federal attorneys for their resignations. Preet had been one of them, and he failed to give in his resignation. He was then terminated.
Thanks a lot! So that's something specific to cabinet members, if you're a random worker you don't have to wait for your boss to accept your resignation?
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In the US, sometimes Presidents will ask a collection of cabinet members (or anyone that they can hire and fire as they please) for their resignation and then they'll pick who they want to allow to resign. Resigning would, in theory, allow for someone to collect benefits if they're eligible instead of just being fired. Plus there is much more decency in just resigning instead of being fired.
Take Preet Bharara as an example. Trumps DOJ, when they first came in, asked some federal attorneys for their resignations. Preet had been one of them, and he failed to give in his resignation. He was then terminated.
Thanks a lot! So that's something specific to cabinet members, if you're a random worker you don't have to wait for your boss to accept your resignation? I wouldn't say its specific to cabinet members, nor the President. Your boss could ask for your resignation if you've been there for 10 years and you're eligible for a pension, or healthcare in retirement. And instead of fighting it and being fired, you could accept whatever your job is giving you to walk away -- instead of having to be fired and losing all of this (if you had done something wrong on the job) But I know that it is most typically cited as being done in politics. As you want a team of people below you who support your cause.
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The firing was a good move but I don't like how President Trump talked the reasons he fired him to the media, making it look like though it was influenced by the North Korea. Yes, he suggested Libya type of solution for North Korea. That's just a suggestion and should be kept secret. Telling the media about it is a complete off for me.
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