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September 13, 2019, 01:36:09 AM
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Update:

Will be back in operation around about June 01, 2020, 02:00:00 AM (your local time) for main-net and test-net lightning network loans up to seven days duration after having managed to finally get all my funds out of the old Éclair wallet and install a new Éclair wallet with healthy inbound and outbound capacity.  Main-net: (Inbound BTC 0.02 and outbound BTC 0.005 - Test-net is similar)

Other updates are in progress.

My Lightning Node Lending is now ON_LINE for 2020!



Timelord2067's Timely Test & Main-neT LighTning Loans to a "T"



(last modified 26th November, 2019 dot point seven)

  • Loan repayment to be seven days from when the loan is funded. E.G. I advise the loan was funded at three fifteen A.M. on Monday, then you are obliged to repay by three fifteen A.M. the following Monday. See also dot point 12 for one day, one week or longer loan rates.
  • Main-net loan:

    Amount: 0.1 mBTC (0.0001 BTC, or 10,000 satoshi).
    Duration: one week.
    Interest: 1% (0.001 mBTC (=0.000001 BTC or 100 satoshi)).

    Test-Net loan:

    Amount: 1.0 mBTC (0.001 BTC, or 100,000 satoshi).
    Duration: one week.
    Interest: 1% (0.01 mBTC (=0.00001 BTC or 1000 satoshi)).
  • Please set your requests to a six hour duration as I may not be online at the same time as you.
  • Please use the format:  [code]<your lightning payment request>[/code]  as I have found some requests don't copy properly if posted without the [code][/code] tags.
  • If you don't repay me on time then I reserve the right to open a scam accusation against you.
  • I will not be giving merits or positive trust/feed back wall reviews, nore am I asking for any merits or trust/feedback reviews in return
    (unless I open a scam accusation against you when I'll freely splash some Red Paint ™ on your Trust/Feedback Wall)
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    • I may decline a loan application if you have other outstanding loans. (Or, make multiple loan applications simultaneously (example)
    • From time to time, I may limit the number of open loans to ten on each of the lightning (test and main-nets) while I am re-balancing my inbound capacity.
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    • I have inbound capacity of BTC 0.01 on the main-net node ACINQ (as well as a few other smaller ( 0.0011 ) channels on various LN wallets).  If possible, it might speed up your repayment if you have this node on your channel list.
    • On the testnet I have numerous channels open, so will leave it up to you which channel to open.
  • If you are unable to make a payment due to connection fail, then:

       
    • I will send two additional payment requests (one each for the three mobile devices that I have Lightning Networks on) choose one and repay one of the three (not all three).
    • If you are still unable to make a repayment, then I will send you a block chain wallet address to make payment on.
    • If you are still unable to make a repayment (we're talking less than one whole dollar here) then I reserve the right to open a scam accusation against you.  If we have been communicating in open forum then I will take this into consideration as the LN is a very fickle beast.
  • Due to the small loan size, it is preferred that split repayments are not accepted to ensure you do not short change your repayment obligations.
    • PM's for loan applications will be ignored.
    • Late payment advice via PM will be ignored unless I have asked you in this thread to PM me. (again, we're talking BTC 0.0000202 which is valued at here).
  • Loan terms can be one of three options:

       
    • Max 24 hour loans - 0% for the purpose of testing the lightning network.  Usually you would ask for a repayment request, or, I would send one at the same time the loan is funded.  24 hour loan capped at 0.0001 mainnet and 0.001 testnet.
    • Up to seven day LN loans - I can send a seven day loan repayment request at the time of funding. Terms 1%.
    • Over seven days - currently not available.

  • I reserve the right to open a scam accusation if you don't repay test-net bitcoins that I have loaned you as they were loaned to you to and you agreed to repay them with the relevant interest.
  • As I am only doing small loans primarily to test out the lightning network, anyone wanting to take out a loan with other lenders should try these people:





Updated terms:

  • Lending amount changed to BTC 0.00002 and I no longer lend testnet coins (but will do a test exchange where you send first)
  • 24/Nov/2019 Loan terms updated in dot point 12. 24 hours = zero %. Up-to seven days = 1%. Over seven days = not available at this time.
    26/Nov/2019 added dotpoint 14 - list of other lenders (not exhaustive). Added to dot-point 7a - will deny if you make multiple loan applications simultaneously.
  • 16 Oct 2019 Dot point 9iii If we have been communicating in open forum then I will take this into consideration Dot point 12 now becomes 11b.
  • 28/Sep/2019 Dot point 7a - I may decline loan if you have other outstanding loans.
  • 22/Sep/2019 Clarified dot points 10 (prefer no split payments) and 13 (right to start a spam accusation)

Daily bump.

Am around for next couple of hours if people want to submit lightning loan applications.


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I am starting a Lightning Loan thread with near identical conditions to the one that LoyceV recently locked.

Locked: LoyceV's Legendary Little Lightning Loans

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Loan
No collateral required.
Amount: 0.1 mBTC (0.0001 BTC, or 10,000 satoshi).
Duration: one week.
Interest: 1% (0.001 mBTC (=0.000001 BTC or 100 satoshi)).
Conditions: Members (and higher) without red trust on DT2 all account ranks can apply.

To apply
1. Make sure you have inbound capacity.
2. Post a Bitcoin Lightning Network payment request for 0.1 mBTC. Make sure it doesn't expire too soon (in case I'm not online).
Repayment
3. When you want to pay back, let me know and I'll post a payment request.

Disclaimer
Self-moderated to stop spam from users who don't read and ask for a on-chain Bitcoin loan.
I reserve the right to reject or accept users as I please.
This topic is experimental, if it works out I might add Larger Lightning Loans later.
Don't take a small loan to get positive feedback, join to try the Lightning Network  Smiley

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September 13, 2019, 01:36:41 AM
Last edit: November 23, 2019, 11:22:05 PM by Timelord2067
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Timelord2067's Timely Test and Main-neT LighTning Loans to a "T" Tally-room.

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I've bumped the channels up to five each on the three devices so I should have plenty of scope to do a lightning transaction in or out.

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  • Split repayments not accepted.
This may be needed in some cases, considering how difficult it is sometimes to send a transaction through LN.

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I think this is a bit harsh and you might scare off potential users. Testnet faucets already pay more, but that's on-chain, and Testnet coins are never supposed to have any value.

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  • Split repayments not accepted.
This may be needed in some cases, considering how difficult it is sometimes to send a transaction through LN.

I did have a think about that - for 0.0001 I feel it would be getting to splitting hairs for even smaller transactions to then go adding up. Besides, what if four or five transactions are a few Satoshi short? Will people support a flag or scam accusation for a couple of Satoshi?

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I think this is a bit harsh and you might scare off potential users. Testnet faucets already pay more, but that's on-chain, and Testnet coins are never supposed to have any value.

Value no.

I'm not supplying a faucet of test net BitCoins, they like their main net counterparts are being loaned. I expect them to be returned (plus interest) as agreed.

But I will consider what you have said especially given we are trying to encourage new users into the Lightning-network who may feel more comfortable using testnet BitCoins before taking the plunge with real BitCoins.

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Why not open this in project development and hand out 0.0001 testnet BTC to anyone who posts? I think anyone can obtain 1-5 testnet coins pretty easily -- or is this for the 'try out the network / apps' part of it? I'll be setting mine up and come back to you and test it out.
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I'm still not that familiar with Lightning, but, yeah, shouldn't testnet be bigger? Because those coins don't really have value (or aren't supposed to have value.)

Anyway, I'm gonna go download an app for my phone and grab some from a faucet, see how that works. Then I'll "borrow" some from you so I can pay you back a week later. I'll probably get more from the faucets than from you. Smiley

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Ok, I'm new to this Lightning thing, and I'm not sure I've configured capacity properly; I put something called autopilot. I'm on testnet. Here is my code:

Code:
lntb1m1pwej3njpp5c7qtrg58xac20s55df3l33mqgh6m95t4mxw0upzfeq6vwqp6patsdq8g3skyuccqzpgxqy9gcqnpv7hfu6j3v5345qqcmney49cwruuk26yk8qpmern5vtfvkkf9032n38rek8vaj9mx4q88z8uy0vd33zf030zla3996md9lsagm8krsqqs8nrd

Let me know if it works. I'll pay you back in a week or sooner.

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Why not open this in project development and hand out 0.0001 testnet BTC to anyone who posts? I think anyone can obtain 1-5 testnet coins pretty easily -- or is this for the 'try out the network / apps' part of it? I'll be setting mine up and come back to you and test it out.

Hi Marco, there's a discussion just prior to your post. I'm not running a faucet and as such the only way to ensure I have testnet faucets going forwards is to ensure they are returned to me with the nominal interest. If you don't want to pay interest then thanks for your enquiry.

Ok, I'm new to this Lightning thing, and I'm not sure I've configured capacity properly; I put something called autopilot. I'm on testnet. Here is my code:

Code:
lntb1m1pwej3njpp5c7qtrg58xac20s55df3l33mqgh6m95t4mxw0upzfeq6vwqp6patsdq8g3skyuccqzpgxqy9gcqnpv7hfu6j3v5345qqcmney49cwruuk26yk8qpmern5vtfvkkf9032n38rek8vaj9mx4q88z8uy0vd33zf030zla3996md9lsagm8krsqqs8nrd

Let me know if it works. I'll pay you back in a week or sooner.

I'm trying to send testnet Bitcoins to your request, but it's not finding a path. I'll keep trying to send.

Do you have "inbound capacity" and did you set your request for six hours?

*Edit* Is your wallet on/open? I'm unable to send as no connection can be found.

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I don't think I have inbound capacity, LOL ... I downloaded Lightning Testnet Wallet for Android.

Do you have a recommendation for a Lightning wallet for Android, and some simple steps to configure on it? I got some testnet coins from faucets, more than enough to pay you back.

Wallet should be open ... I don't know if it "closes" if it's not the app I am using on the phone. Doesn't say anything about duration, but inbound capacity is zero.

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You can search for nodes that offer reciprocal channel connection (for a nominal fee) via the website 1ml.com. By using testnet Bitcoins you can afford to buy (yes, buy) inbound connections.



I use both ZAP (on PC) and Eclair lightning wallets on two mobile devices (Android). My Android devices while open are offline when the screen goes blank, so no inbound while offline. (I find the LN very clunky but am persevering nevertheless)




Am online for next couple of hours too.

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I don't think I have inbound capacity, LOL ...
You can buy a few Blockaccinos with testnet LN, if you buy enough of them you should get inbound capacity.

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I don't think I have inbound capacity, LOL ...
You can buy a few Blockaccinos with testnet LN, if you buy enough of them you should get inbound capacity.

Thanks for the reminder, I'll add the info to the OP when I get back to Australia.



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Ok. Try again? I overdosed on the blockaccinos and fraps and whatevs on there.

It says:

Can Receive 0.00141214

So I should be good to go? Will leave wallet open.

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So I should be good to go? Will leave wallet open.

I've had High Tea at Hippopotamus across from Te Papa, have scoured Arty Bees, Unity Books and am out the front of Pegasus Books getting free Wi-Fi, so send your requests with six hour timeouts and we should be good to go.

*First edit* Pegasus Books then Ferrit Books, Hell Pizza and Monteith's Third eye pub before cocktails at The Hawthorn on Tory Street.

*Second Edit* am online for another hour or so then back out into Wellington's windy (rainy day). (Free Wi-Fi on the street has been a bonus).

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Hi

I only have a Luno wallet active. I would like to apply for a loan.

Let me know if you can help.

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Hi

I only have a Luno wallet active. I would like to apply for a loan.

Let me know if you can help.

Thanks

Denied as you're a newbie fresh out of the packet and 90 minutes ago made another loan application.

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Thanks for replying.
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