Timelord2067's Timely Test & Main-neT LighTning Loans to a "T" in 2021>22

[Dabs]

I'm using the Lightning Labs testnet wallet, it does not have any option to set any timeout, so my request is still "in progress" ... and now I think I have inbound capacity.

So you can try that one, or let me try to make another request:

Code:

lntb1m1pwema9gpp557ehzx5n0nkaa24wea0fxtqhl5wx5q76fnkxa4dx0cwqm6cylq2sdqqcqzpgxqy9gcqrzjqd4eder3830cfh9cqvze9cdag23dnfpaj8azu56mn07stuk9mmumjxqaagqqq5sqqqqqqqlgqqqqqqgq9qm9x57n34zjamgdd2e3mu5n558z2zu7mm59jyqkg2fh4sj7lyc9y8gjq02hmzd5cdd69pmurple2dcdzwwc2fkvlarl3r3xhcf2ulguqqrfvvd6

Let's see if this one works.

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1715436656

[Timelord2o67]

...

This one is at least trying to find a path.

Am just starting up my other device.

[Dabs]

Keeping the phone turned on and app in foreground. Still says "In Progress" ... We'll see. I thought these things would be instant. Also says "100% on Lightning" with a green dot.

*Edit* ooooh, something happened. It's marked as "Complete" now.

[Timelord2o67]

*Edit* ooooh, something happened. It's marked as "Complete" now.

Payment sent

Code:

a7b3711a937ceddeaaaecf5e932c17fd1c6a03da4cec6ed5a67e1c0deb04f815

Please let me know when you'd like to repay this loan in the next seven days so I can send you a payment request, thanks.

[Dabs]

Ok. When do I pay you back? How much should I send 0.00101?

[Timelord2o67]

Ok. When do I pay you back?

When you're ready (anytime in the next seven days) I'll send you a payment request

How much should I send 0.00101?

Yes, that's correct, thanks.


I'm on for another hour before I go out exploring sunny downtown Dunedin.


Am on for next four hours or thereabouts.

[LoyceV]

Can I get a LighTning TesTnet Loan? I sometimes had a hard time sending just 10,000 satoshi with on-chain LN, and I'm curious to see if this is less of a problem with LN. My theory is that Testnet channels get funded with higher amounts, and I "bought" liquidity from the node too.
If I'm right, Testnet works better. And if that's the case, I'm hoping LN's problems will get less once channels get funded with higher amounts.

I made 2 options:
1 mBTC:

Code:

lntb1m1pw6xu7qpp5w7n39960c0dprekjguydhk27dlg7ac56fzvvmnese346h5nq7zdqdqqxqr4rqrzjqwfn3p9278ttzzpe0e00uhyxhned3j5d9acqak5emwfpflp8z2cngxqltuqqq0sqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqm2lam35ptthwkfcv6dthrkq7a6nhyah5gm0sanvnje3ae7xdng3na0hcsh7ux56fe4vu4tdd5v2k4sansztx0s8fz89lvr9zcy53t4cq03av7d

10 mBTC:

Code:

lntb10m1pw6xul9pp5gku6x3fwvd8s3nlrrehzt4xr6t2p4kyjwpvv4apn76277x7x5nmqdqqxqr4rqrzjqwfn3p9278ttzzpe0e00uhyxhned3j5d9acqak5emwfpflp8z2cngxqltuqqq0sqqqqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjq9nd0esn3axe0aukt5sn3x2vwc63unwqz0cd6pxn8kc08np760q8h6axkp5ct43fe2uxesetp4u5hj5fm58xmvucx99u999umru8d8fcqa92jga

(if you need more Testnet funding for this last one, just post a Testnet addy first)

Both are valid for 6 hours.

[Timelord2o67]

...

Both requests are trying to go through but can't find a path, I'm endeavoring to retry.

My funds are great on testnet with multiple 0.167772 Chanel's open.

*Edit*

Still can't find a channel and I'm also getting a wired error that Satoshi 's are missing.

Second Edit - payment request has expired, when are you on next?

[LoyceV]

Both requests are trying to go through but can't find a path, I'm endeavoring to retry.

That's the next problem with LN: on a desktop, it wouldn't be a problem to stay online, but on mobile, it's terrible.
When paying a business, that's not a problem, but between users it is quite annoying

Second Edit - payment request has expired, when are you on next?

I'll try later, when I have time to keep it on the charger with the screen on and Eclair showing.

[Dabs]

When Electrum starts supporting LN, that's what I'm going to use more often. I just read something that indicates they are working on this for their next major release.

Before I forget and you start tagging me, @Timelord, give me a payment request thingy code and I'll send it over. I'm using the Lightning Labs testnet wallet I found on Google Play, it's the purple looking wallet, seems to have worked, I don't see any option to set 6 hours or anything, but maybe that's because it's on autopilot? Not sure.

That's the next problem with LN: on a desktop, it wouldn't be a problem to stay online, but on mobile, it's terrible.
When paying a business, that's not a problem, but between users it is quite annoying

I think we may have just stumbled upon what will some day be a third layer. If bitcoin transactions are the first layer, and Lightning is one (of many possible) second layers, asynchronous transactions would be a third layer. Or it just might depend on the particular wallet or some other centralized service, which, if it works like ElectrumX servers still be somewhat decentralized. Or something like all these "instant messaging" apps now, where you send a message to a server, it will eventually find its way to the other side when they turn on their phone or app.

[Timelord2o67]

Hi Dabs,

Code:

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

Am online and am reading posts. Will reply when I can.

If anyone has a link for a PC version of a testnet Lightning Wallet I'd appreciate it.

[Dabs]

Sent.

Invoice ID: 81e24b9a2ee20ce9bc78219933163bb7dddd6a8fc2ffcd5172a487e504e4fe28
Proof of Payment: 60cfe793f6a016008840e8a8d2d788b5d318bdf1db6ba7d272ab0c7b48d4fb6c

[Timelord2o67]

Sent.

Invoice ID: 81e24b9a2ee20ce9bc78219933163bb7dddd6a8fc2ffcd5172a487e504e4fe28
Proof of Payment: 60cfe793f6a016008840e8a8d2d788b5d318bdf1db6ba7d272ab0c7b48d4fb6c

Hi Dabs, repayment received, many thanks.

[Timelord2067]

Daily bump.

Am around for next couple of hours if people want to submit lightning loan applications.


Does anyone know how to do BBCODE for count-downs? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4738016.msg52581428#msg52581428

Also, @LoyceV - did you want to try testnet transfers in another day or two's time?

[LoyceV]

Does anyone know how to do BBCODE for count-downs? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4738016.msg52581428#msg52581428

I don't think the forum supports it. Maybe an animated GIF could work as a count down, but a new one has to be created at each refresh, and browser cache will probably mess it up anyway.

Also, @LoyceV - did you want to try testnet transfers in another day or two's time?

Let's do this, pick one:
1 mTBTC

Code:

lightning:lntb10m1pw6cwpjpp54qe89mu04e6c3gkzwsdqlsqap954hpq6gtgx3xj064a7jxe5ccssdqqxqr4rqrzjqwfn3p9278ttzzpe0e00uhyxhned3j5d9acqak5emwfpflp8z2cngxqlvvqqqvcqqyqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqqwhy4eyp9wl9khymamfcfftxwx4jyuszx3m2umkxlzy00pqu5mljs0zyfxfjpxv9tajxasu8u8pr6gvrqqk3l4rpanee0qqc6uc7ukqpgg43yt

10 mTBTC

Code:

lightning:lntb1m1pw6cwqlpp5ge757nug2vtzxadrrwu38ghcsd9zhkwzhn8xutw6an6v2z7r55nsdqqxqr4rqrzjqwfn3p9278ttzzpe0e00uhyxhned3j5d9acqak5emwfpflp8z2cngxqlvvqqqvcqqyqqqqlgqqqqqeqqjqsyncyua854xs5sndgm5hcrka2ph6mcjjht98quy7y5w9wm3exvu8n0hcfgwdg5cvwd0lxqxtgs032ftdttncqcnhyergfwpamgtcnlgp46qnlc

I've set the screen timeout to 30 minutes.

[Timelord2o67]

I've been trying the first one and getting this error message quite a lot:

Code:

insufficient funds: missingSatoshis=949101 reserveSatoshis=50000 fees=0

Will try the second.

I'll be home in a couple of hours so will try the other LN wallet.

[LoyceV]

I tried sending a small Testnet Lightning payment to my (online) wallet on https://htlc.me/, and that too didn't work. I am slightly disappointed

[Timelord2067]

I tried sending a small Testnet Lightning payment to my (online) wallet on https://htlc.me/, and that too didn't work. I am slightly disappointed

I won't be online again for another twelve hours - when I got home I wasn't able to connect to bCT as it was in a type of maintenance mode.

[Timelord2067]

Daily bump.

Am around for next couple of hours if people want to submit lightning loan applications.

Am going to be on limited internet hours over the next five days - will be back around this time Monday my time (GMT +10) I'll be looking in for a few minutes at a time, but can't guarentee any transactions in next 120 hours. (and still hunting for BBcode count down that I can use here)

[jackg]

Managed to St up my channel, can you send an invoice?