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September 13, 2019, 03:01:00 PM
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My acc - (TotSamiy) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1772877

May I ask the reason?
What can I do to get my account back?


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September 13, 2019, 03:09:14 PM
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Probably ban evasion:


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September 13, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
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Probably ban evasion:
Somebody used my Facebook link. He is banned. What’s the problem with my account?
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September 13, 2019, 05:11:47 PM
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Probably ban evasion:
Somebody used my Facebook link. He is banned.

Or you used that someboday facebook link? Tongue

Somebody posted the facebook link on May 24, 2018.

And you used the facebook link as well on July 07, 2018.



What’s the problem with my account?
25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.

or that somebody is using your account.

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September 13, 2019, 06:39:15 PM
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This is my first bounty campaign - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2804960.0

Spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HEOsh2PW-qKafSBW5je7RTNuEBfaaHOOHDHNCUw8O2k/edit#gid=1898052114
Line - 680
It's my Facebook page!

Date - 15.02.2018
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September 13, 2019, 08:05:26 PM
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It doesn't matter who was the first person or which profile was the first to use the Facebook profile link. Question is why are two bitcointalk accounts using the same Facebook profile?
When they use the same profile, it means it's the same person behind the forum profiles(thou sometimes people make mistakes to copy other people's social media links)
Some times ban evaders have been caught doing this.

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September 13, 2019, 10:31:05 PM
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After some digging I'm certainly sure that this account: bubbalex is an alt account of yours.


#1
You're admitting in this post to Lauda that these two ETH addresses are yours:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105875.msg49581133#msg49581133

  • 0xCb0A7a1Ae93ea9750868348247590Fd2817aBF8a
  • 0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35

Both of these addresses have transfered ETH multiple times to this address of bubbalex (eth address on his profile - archived) and vice versa: 0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46


0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35  -> 0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46 -- 0x32155ddc794e350b5df07c173d00e7326e2e3f4930e739c40cf5e125ff708ce8
0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46  -> 0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35 -- 0x5666b25206195d0d5e9fa5f26fc088f45fffc5590c90bf21d4877ad6b107c185

0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46 -> 0xCb0A7a1Ae93ea9750868348247590Fd2817aBF8a -- 0xc35ba4c140f97692edf2956cd2aa3608b314d1b9da7f6e6c65cf707cefe8ad29



#2
Merit transfer between the two accounts:
7 Merits from bubbalex to TotSamiy - bpip
8 Merits from TotSamiy to bubbalex - bpip
Interesting one here: 3 minutes between the merit transfers:
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Date/Time                      From           To
6/27/2018 6:45:00 PM   TotSamiy   bubbalex   2
6/27/2018 6:48:00 PM   bubbalex   TotSamiy   2

#3
Similar registration dates - less than a day apart - and same local time:
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Name:   TotSamiy
Date Registered:   January 29, 2018, 11:33:35 PM

Name:   bubbalex
Date Registered:   January 30, 2018, 02:12:28 PM

#4
Suspiciously fast response from bubbalex on TotSamiy's post in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105875.20

TotSamiy post February 05, 2019, 05:03:58 PM
bubbalex post February 05, 2019, 05:06:59 PM (archived)


Could be ban evasion...
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September 13, 2019, 11:49:31 PM
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Nice investigation you got up there @mainconcept. This is probably a case of ban evasion and i know OP knows deep down in his heart what he did. I only recall one incident where someone was wrongly banned for plagiarism because they were framed.

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September 14, 2019, 12:50:38 AM
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That's some in depth investigating mainconcept. Nice work!
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<...> I only recall one incident where someone was wrongly banned for plagiarism because they were framed.

There have been several cases of wrong bans, but I believe that errors are inevitable for forums with so many users.
Fortunately, moderators are always willing to fix their mistakes:

# https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3610357.msg36715859#msg36715859
# https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4601461.msg41539819#msg41539819
# https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4805466.msg43369551#msg43369551
# https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5076021.msg48269635#msg48269635
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September 14, 2019, 09:10:03 AM
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If you look at the profile of this person, he always used the link to his Facebook. Only once he used the link to my facebook. Do I understand correctly, if someone once used links to your social networks and he is blocked, then they block you too?

I can’t see any logic here. I can post a link to facebook or twitter of any person on this forum and break the rules. After you block me, will this person be blocked too?

Don't you find this to be strange?



We are friends. We created bounty campaigns and did the design together.

When we were paid, we sent money to each other.

One year ago, we decided to work independently.

We are two different people, we are not anonymous.

My photo is on Twitter and Linkedin. You can compare my photos with the video on my YouTube channel.
 
bubbalex - you can also look at his photo on facebook, linkedin, telegram, YouTube.

I can provide you with any evidence.
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September 14, 2019, 01:09:34 PM
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If you look at the profile of this person, he always used the link to his Facebook. Only once he used the link to my facebook. Do I understand correctly, if someone once used links to your social networks and he is blocked, then they block you too?

It all depends on the date of publication of the link. mdafjal786 posted a link on Facebook much earlier than you. How could he know the link was yours? There's only one option - account mdafjal786 belongs to you.


I can’t see any logic here. I can post a link to facebook or twitter of any person on this forum and break the rules. After you block me, will this person be blocked too?

No. If you post "a link to facebook or twitter of any person" later than the other person and you are banned, the other person will not be banned.

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September 14, 2019, 02:16:42 PM
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TotSamiy has posted facebook link in question 3 months prior to mdafjal786 in AKAIITO bounty (spreadsheets are also public).

mdafjal786 has a different facebook link posted/repeated more than 15 times, they have used "id=100024281163954" only once which also happens to be one of their last posts made (seems a bit weird don't you think)?

disclaimer: I haven't looked at any other connections except for that specific facebook url. (on vacation)

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September 14, 2019, 02:57:43 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2019, 03:10:19 PM by GpII-dd
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I’ve posted my Facebook link much earlier.
This person wasn’t registered on this forum at that time, check the dates, please.
Here is the spreadsheet.
Line - 680 (Facebook)

I have nothing in common with this account!

https://i.imgur.com/JnxNC0i.png
https://i.imgur.com/tFAPtab.png

It all depends on the date of publication of the link. mdafjal786 posted a link on Facebook much earlier than you. How could he know the link was yours? There's only one option - account mdafjal786 belongs to you.
How could he post the link earlier, if I posted it on February 15, but he registered on this forum just on March 19?

My second bounty - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3263020.0
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Line - 927 (Facebook)
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September 15, 2019, 05:37:06 AM
Last edit: September 15, 2019, 05:51:51 AM by bubbalex
 #15

After some digging I'm certainly sure that this account: bubbalex is an alt account of yours.


#1
You're admitting in this post to Lauda that these two ETH addresses are yours:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105875.msg49581133#msg49581133

  • 0xCb0A7a1Ae93ea9750868348247590Fd2817aBF8a
  • 0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35

Both of these addresses have transfered ETH multiple times to this address of bubbalex (eth address on his profile - archived) and vice versa: 0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46


0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35  -> 0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46 -- 0x32155ddc794e350b5df07c173d00e7326e2e3f4930e739c40cf5e125ff708ce8
0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46  -> 0xDC8bEEeA0a5e114A8dcC2b2A621f6B700784Bb35 -- 0x5666b25206195d0d5e9fa5f26fc088f45fffc5590c90bf21d4877ad6b107c185

0x8B9d4e5145c71De5ecd37D7D06d015B807a08A46 -> 0xCb0A7a1Ae93ea9750868348247590Fd2817aBF8a -- 0xc35ba4c140f97692edf2956cd2aa3608b314d1b9da7f6e6c65cf707cefe8ad29



#2
Merit transfer between the two accounts:
7 Merits from bubbalex to TotSamiy - bpip
8 Merits from TotSamiy to bubbalex - bpip
Interesting one here: 3 minutes between the merit transfers:
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Date/Time                      From           To
6/27/2018 6:45:00 PM   TotSamiy   bubbalex   2
6/27/2018 6:48:00 PM   bubbalex   TotSamiy   2

#3
Similar registration dates - less than a day apart - and same local time:
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Name:   TotSamiy
Date Registered:   January 29, 2018, 11:33:35 PM

Name:   bubbalex
Date Registered:   January 30, 2018, 02:12:28 PM

#4
Suspiciously fast response from bubbalex on TotSamiy's post in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105875.20

TotSamiy post February 05, 2019, 05:03:58 PM
bubbalex post February 05, 2019, 05:06:59 PM (archived)


Could be ban evasion...

We are worked with TotSamiy in 2018, because started as one team, and transferred some eth to each other, about merit - we was newbies and didn't noticed that sending merit to each other can be a problem. I'm absolutely unrelated to TotSamiy since August 2018, only once after that I helped him with accusation from Lauda, because Wipro involved both of us in this case. That's all, I don't know the reason of TotSamiy ban, but I definitely not his alt. And yes, we're both have YouTube channels where you can see our identity

This is my YouTube, also you can see my post history and all my work to easily understand that we're not same person
https://www.youtube.com/user/tixoxodka
I'm doing my job separately and in different way, we are now competitors who once started together, nothing more

Nothing suspicious in previous fast response, we still have contact to each other (whole situation with Wipro and Lauda was strange) and I responded here because mangioromo bot sent me notification

I have only one alt account - bountyflex, it's indicated in my trust

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September 18, 2019, 09:33:35 AM
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There is no reason to bump this.

You asked a question and received the answer. Ban evasion.

There is enough evidence that both accounts belong to the same person.
The excuse of a 'friend' (or sister, brother, mother, grandfather, ..) is the cheapest one you could come up with ?

1) Same facebook account used and 2) Depositing to the same account from multiple addresses (posted by 2 accounts) is enough to believe both accounts belong to the same person.


You - as a person - are banned from this forum. This includes any account owned by you and any account you will own in the future.


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September 18, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
Last edit: September 18, 2019, 03:50:48 PM by morvillz7z
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@bob123

I believe TotSamiy is banned on the premise that he is an alt of mdafjal786 (not bubbalex) and both accounts share the exact same facebook account.

mdafjal786 has used this facebook address around and over 15 times (43 total post/newbie account): https://www.facebook.com/mdafjal786
and only once the address TotSamiy uses, which by the way was posted twice prior to mdafjal786's post!

My question is...what is stopping a newbie throwaway account to take your btc or eth or whatever address/social media handle to use it as their own and then get banned? How is that TotSamiy's fault? Are there any other connections between mdafjal786 and TotSamiy?


edit:

Whoever made that report quoted by hilariousandco is inaccurate, to put it mildly.

rzflf who was banned alongside TotSamiy has used "yusniar88" twitter handle probably 50 times prior to mdafjal786's post from May 31st (which again like TotSamiy's facebook link was used only once).

Following Xal0lex's reply, both rzflf and TotSamiy have shared their social media handles before mdafjal786 hence they should not be banned.

It all depends on the date of publication of the link.

No. If you post "a link to facebook or twitter of any person" later than the other person and you are banned, the other person will not be banned.

Am i missing something?

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It doesn't matter who was the first person or which profile was the first to use the Facebook profile link. Question is why are two bitcointalk accounts using the same Facebook profile?
When they use the same profile, it means it's the same person behind the forum profiles(thou sometimes people make mistakes to copy other people's social media links)
Some times ban evaders have been caught doing this.

I'm not defending OP but this statement is wrong.
Many times I've found several people (generally newbies) using other people accounts.

This can be explained with 2 reasons

1: they copypasted a random message on probably the same thread form another person to get the submission form already done and after they simply forgot to change all data. (Believe I found several of them)

2: they are doing it to harm someone, to get him banned or to steal stacks for him. (found some of those too)

A good way to do some researches is to type this string on google

Code:
Yoursocialmedia handle site:bitcointalk.org -yourbitcointalkusername

It can be done with an address too

Code:
your address site:bitcointalk.org -yourbitcointalkusername

It is not 100% accurate but it works better than nothing





I hope people are doing triple check before reporting people.

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You know that you're not getting unbanned, right?

Trust me, people come here with new excuses every day and evidence is enough to link you with that other account.

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September 20, 2019, 03:12:57 PM
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You know that you're not getting unbanned, right?

Trust me, people come here with new excuses every day and evidence is enough to link you with that other account.
This man used link to my Facebook. Should I be banned on this forum just for this reason?
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