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This is a topic na sobrang importante especially sa mga taong gumagawa ng study regarding sa mga bagay bagay dito sa ating mundo. Most of the time ang topic na ito ay sobrang useful sa mga science related projects or devices. The reason why I created this topic because ang dami ng threads especially sa Bitcoin Discussion na tungkol kay Satoshi Nakamoto and some of it ay sobrang useless at nonsense na pagusapan. I guarantee you na alam ko 'tong topic na ito because one of my course subjects that's related to project study taught us this topic so na-irelate ko siya sa issue about sa bitcoin ngayon.

Lately, ang mga mga topic na sobrang overrated sa Bitcoin Discussion ay yung about kay Craig Wright na gustong mag-apply for patent as inventor of bitcoin. There are various articles you can read about it:
and until know, hindi pa rin napapatunayan or nabibigay ang ownership kay Craig Wright kasi kulang ng evidences and possible na isa siyang fraud. So let's start the real topic about Patent and Intellectual Property.


Ano ang Intellectual Property?

Simple lang ang definition ko dito, ito ang isang unique na idea or concept na ginawa ng utak mo.

It means na lahat ng naisip mo at nagawa mo na hindi pa naiisip/nagagawa ng iba ay masasabing isang Intellectual Property. Sa larangan ng idea at concept, pagaaral at pagsusuri ay masasabi mong pagmamayari mo yun dahil ikaw ang naka-isip non.

Ang blockchain at bitcoin ay isang intellectual property ni Satoshi Nakamoto kaya't malaki ang chance na kapag nag-apply siya for patent in real world, siya ang mag mamayari ng bitcoin at blockchain at siya ang kikilalanin as the inventor.

Ano ang Patent?


Ang patent naman ay isang bagay na inaapply mo para sa iyong invention upang mapasayo ang titulo as an inventor. Halimbawa na lamang si Craig Wright ng NChain ay nag-aapply ng patent para sa bitcoin ngunit hanggang ngayon ay hindi pa rin naaapprove dahil sa kakulangan ng evidences na siya si Satoshi Nakamoto.

Kaya siya binansagang fraud sa larangan ng bitcoin community sapagkat pinipilit niya ang kanyang sarili upang mapasakanya ang bitcoin. Kaya sabi ng judge sa kanya na ipakita niya or ibigay ang mga million na bitcoin kung siya ba talaga si Satoshi Nakamoto at kapag nagawa niya yon ay maapprove na ang kanyang patent for Bitcoin.

Ito rin ang reason kaya naiinis ako sa mga nag-shashare ng mga false information about kay Satoshi Nakamoto and I'm tired of seeing it, it might sound unprofessional pero ang daming existing threads about SN without knowing about patent at IP.


Intellectual Property in the Philippines.

  • Article XIV, Section 13 of the 1987 Constitution

"The state shall protect and secure the exclusive rights of scientist, inventors, artists, and other gifted citizens to their intellectual property and creations, particularly when beneficial to the people, for such period as may be provided by law" [1]

  • Republic Act 8293

An Act Prescribing the Intellectual Property Code and Establishing the Intellectual Property Office, Providing for its Powers and Functions.
-Signed into law on June 6, 1997. [2]


The different kinds of Intellectual Property.
  • Patent
  • Trademark
  • Utility Model
  • Industrial Design
  • Geographic Indications
  • Layout of IC
  • Trade Secret
  • Copyright

Paano magiging approved ang Patent ni Craig Wright?

1. Kapag pinakita/binigay niya ang millions of bitcoin na natitira na hawak ni Satoshi Nakamoto.

2. Kapag napakita niya ang layout model or design sa paggawa ng blockchain at ng trademark ownership ng Bitcoin. One of the easiest way, kaya yung iba sobrang ignorante at napapaniwala agad na sila ang tunay na Satoshi Nakamoto, hindi nga nila mapakita yung simpleng model or layout.

3. Through bitcointalk.org, hindi natin sure kung legit yung account niya dito pero it has more chances dahil ang bitcointalk.org ang kaunaunahang forum site na related sa cryptocurrency at nakakapaglabas ng updates about BTC.

So here's the recent issue about a patent for bitcoin also known as PATENT WARS.
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The race to file blockchain patents has accelerated lately with one specific firm, Nchain Holdings, attempting to capture hundreds of distributed ledger-related patents. According to reports, self-proclaimed Satoshi – Craig Wright – and his Nchain business claim to have filed 666 patent applications to date, capturing a gigantic portfolio of intellectual property.

So this guy, Craig Wright, as I've mentioned earlier na isang scientist from Nchain ay nag-attempt na ng ilang beses para makuha ang pagmamayari ng bitcoin at sinasabing ginawa niya daw ang bitcoin dati pa.

Ang kanyang patent application ay number 666. [3]

Saan pwede mag Patent?

Kahit saang lugar mo gusto na gusto mong dalhin sa market ang naimbento mo. Since madami ng bansa ang gumagamit ng bitcoin, you need to include a lot of countries sa patent application mo para mapatunayan na sayo yung bitcoin sa bansa na yon.

Kumbaga possible magkaroon ng iba't ibang applications from different countries pero iisa lang ang pwedeng maging eligible owner/inventor, kaya lang naman nakikipagunahan yung iba at nagkakaron ng patent wars dahil sa profit na makukuha mo sa market kahit na malaking tax ang babayaran nila sa iba't ibang bansa. So baka may nagtataka at hindi nakakagets kung bakit kailangang i-patent sa iba't ibang market ay upang siya ang marecognized na owner sa bansa na yon.



So katulad nito, makikita niyo sa designated states. For example ang china, which is very professional for copying, they're just looking for inventions across the world tapos sila ang magpapatent sa sariling bansa nila kaya maraming negosyo sa China dahil ganon sila kagaling mangopya. Kaya kung mapapansin niyo na business minded ang mga chinese dahil alam nila ang process of applying patent at uunahan lang nila ang original inventor sa pag patent sa bansang China.

If curious naman kayo about sa business ng China, read it here:


We have our own IPO (Intellectual Property Office) dito sa Pilipinas.
If you have something na kailangang mong i-apply for original inventor/ownership, ito ang need mong lapitan:

INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY OFFICE OF THE PHILIPPINES (IPOPHIL)

As part of this community, ang masasabi ko lang din ay disagree ako sa pag-patent sa ganitong bagay sapagkat ang inventor ng bitcoin na nagtatago sa pangalang Satoshi Nakamoto ay nagtatago na talaga simula palang, so it means na hindi niya irereveal yung sarili niya no matter what happens. Ang blockchain ay isa sa mga achievement na nagawa ni Satoshi, syempre ipa-patent mo ito sapagkat ito ay may malaking ambag sa larangan ng teknolohiya pero bakit hindi niya ginawa dati pa? Ito ay planado na niya umpisa palang at kung aamin man ang tunay na Satoshi Nakamoto, may malakas siyang evidence na ipapakita para ma-approve agad kapag nag-apply siya for patent.

So basically, hindi pa rin ako naniniwala sa mga nagclaim na sila si Satoshi Nakamoto kaya't sana ay hindi na tayo gumawa ng mga false threads about Satoshi Nakamoto. Yes, we're curious at karamihan sa atin ay obsessed hanapin at kilalanin siya pero hindi pa ba enough ang i-appreciate ang mga gawa niya under the name of SN? For me it's enough. Through this learnings, masasabi ko agad based sa evidences kung possible ba na sila si Satoshi Nakamoto.

References:

[1] - https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/constitutions/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines/the-1987-constitution-of-the-republic-of-the-philippines-article-xiv/
[2] - https://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1997/ra_8293_1997.html
[3] - https://news.bitcoin.com/craig-satoshi-wright-claims-to-have-filed-666-blockchain-patents/
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Good Idea na gumawa ka ng ganitong mga information para sa ating mga kababayan na kulang ang knowledge about sa Patent and intellectual property. Yung example mo na nagclaclaim na siya ang inventor ng bitcoin ay mahirap patunayan kung siya ba talaga ang inventor kaya kinakailangan ng proof para malaman kung siya ba talaga ang legit o hindi.
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Mahalaga din malaman na merong expiry date ang isang Patent. Ayo sa section 54 ng R.A. 8293, hanggang 20 years lang ito.

Section 54. Term of Patent. - The term of a patent shall be twenty (20) years from the filing date of the application. (Sec. 21, R.A. No. 165a)



Ibang terms na related sa patent:

Double patenting - the granting of two patents for a single invention, to the same proprietor and in the same country or countries (source). Ilang bansa pa lang ang pinapayagan ito at magkakaiba sila ng patakaran. Alam ko wala pa neto sa Pinas.

Patent Pending - are legal designations or expressions that can be used in relation to a product or process once a patent application for the product or process has been filed, but prior to the patent being issued or the application abandoned (source). Ginagamit na din ito ngayon ng ilang start up blockchain projects. Nakikita sa website or whitepaper nila. 
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Patent Pending - are legal designations or expressions that can be used in relation to a product or process once a patent application for the product or process has been filed, but prior to the patent being issued or the application abandoned (source). Ginagamit na din ito ngayon ng ilang start up blockchain projects. Nakikita sa website or whitepaper nila.  

Obviously, ang patent pending ay syempre pagtapos mong mag-apply, waiting for approval.

I didn't add those terms on the thread since hindi naman masyado ginagamit ang double patenting at limited lang sa ibang bansa. Since science and technology is rising, syempre dapat open tayo sa pag innovate ng mga existing devices, so if meron mang nag dodouble patent, maeextend lang ang term niya for being owner of that invention at syempre walang sinuman makakagalaw ng invention because of that.

The innovative people will wait for the expiration of patent para lang magamit or magalaw yung invention and after ma-innovate and develop, doon lang din kasi pwede i-apply for another patent kasi may binago ka.
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Last edit: October 07, 2019, 12:06:31 AM by finaleshot2016
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More issues about the real Satoshi are getting released because Craig Wright is still trying to claim he's Satoshi, try to read this para malaman niyo yung informations regarding patent, this is also an issue to our country dahil nagnanakawan tayo ng ideas dito. This is an important matter to read, hope you give time on this thread.
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bump to this thread.

There's another issue regarding CSW, and through this thread malalaman niyo na imposible talaga yung pag-claim ni CSW bilang Satoshi Nakamoto.

Local discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218000.0
Bitcoin discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217867.0
Patent claim discussion (beginners & help): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217925.0
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Naisip ko lang nung mga panahong naghahanap ang mundo ng crypto kung sino ba itong si nakamoto ay todo tanggi nung ilang tao na subject, pero bakit ngayon may lumabas na nag-caclaim nito.
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Naisip ko lang nung mga panahong naghahanap ang mundo ng crypto kung sino ba itong si nakamoto ay todo tanggi nung ilang tao na subject, pero bakit ngayon may lumabas na nag-caclaim nito.
Sa kadahilanan na mas maraming benefit na ang makukuha kapag na-claim mo ang ownership ng BTC ngayon. Kaysa dati na, hindi nila ma-foresee yung mga chance ng pag-angat ng value ng BTC kaya walang pake yung mga tao at tinatanggi nila.

Mahahalata mong business minded ang mga tao for claiming the patent of BTC, kasi alam nilang malaking profit at ang balik kaya si Craig Wright, pursigido sa pag-claim kahit non-sense nung mga evidences na pinapakita niya.
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