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September 17, 2019, 01:34:14 AM |
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Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?
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September 17, 2019, 02:55:44 AM |
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I really can't put a number to it because there are simply too much factors to take into account, but I personally think it's easily easily in the millions range. In an internet marketing perspective, while most of us think that bitcoin.com is definitely not a reputable site/domain, the Google search algorithm thinks otherwise. The domain simply is being used since forever(in bitcoin terms) as far as I know, and the domain has a pretty high domain authority as a result. It has a shit-ton of backlinks. If you're interested in statistics concerning the domain: tldr; it's worth A LOT.
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September 17, 2019, 06:22:16 AM Merited by malevolent (1) |
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The political value of bitcoin.com far outweighs the FMV of the domain IMO.
I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
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September 17, 2019, 09:07:13 AM |
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I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
Logically a person who holds the dotcom domain name of the biggest cryptocurrency in the world would not sell it unless they fall into some dire situation and become needy of financial support readily. I am sure RVer does not happen to go into such a crisis. After all every altcoin people create is a money making method for them only and not the traders of that coin. However lack of logic and reasoning is pretty high in RVer's mindset and the way he approaches to anybody regarding a criticism does make people think that he is mentally unstable on different levels. Hence it be very much possible that the domain gets out on auction and its price would be huge, you cant even start to imagine that.
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September 17, 2019, 10:15:45 AM |
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I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
I still don't see Ver selling bitcoin.com even if BCH dies. The potential money that could be made using the domain is still a lot, and that it could also be worth a lot more in the future as more money comes into bitcoin and as adoption grows. Unless of course, that he would be offered a huge sum of money; higher than it's current value(whatever the value may be).
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September 17, 2019, 12:41:01 PM |
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Definitely well in the millions, but that's today. If you add world reserve currency status at one point in the future, this domain could very well be a few hundred million dollars at today's purchasing power ratio. It's a powerful weapon for both a good and ill minded entity. In Roger's case it (unfortunately) is being used by an ill minded entity. What I am more interested in is to find out whether he actually owns the domain in full or not. Before the @Bitcoin Twitter shifted narrative people assumed it was Roger's toy, but turns out it wasn't at all. I wouldn't be too surprised if the same applies to bitcoin dot com. Too bad for Roger that the whitepaper refers to bitcoin.org which everyone in the space is well aware of. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 17, 2019, 01:22:56 PM |
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Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?
He leased / rented it a few years ago for something around 10k/month, but the people who leased it were garbage at running a website / business and he took it back. As for the value I don't think he will sell it and doubt he'll put a value on it.
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September 17, 2019, 03:13:30 PM |
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Some of these sites are useful in spreading rumors, especially for new members, Bitcoin.com is one of those sites. If Roge offers it for sale, Did you think that theymos will buy it? I don't know but I think he has enough money and motivation to do it. What I am more interested in is to find out whether he actually owns the domain in full or not. Before the @Bitcoin Twitter shifted What happened to that account, s/he started giving inaccurate and sometimes conflicting information, I tried to correct one of that information but he blocked me. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) At least it's better than before.
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September 17, 2019, 05:08:28 PM |
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The political value of bitcoin.com far outweighs the FMV of the domain IMO.
I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
this is key---roger has sunk a lot of capital into BCH. the launch of the bitcoin.com exchange (pushing BCH pairs) shows he's obviously prepared to dig himself even deeper. there's no way he's giving up the domain, especially after losing the @bitcoin twitter handle. If Roge offers it for sale, Did you think that theymos will buy it?
hell will freeze over before he sells to theymos. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 17, 2019, 05:50:41 PM |
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Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?
He leased / rented it a few years ago for something around 10k/month, but the people who leased it were garbage at running a website / business and he took it back. As for the value I don't think he will sell it and doubt he'll put a value on it. Please can you share the history of bitcoin.com domain? I am really interested how Roger get his hands on this domain and somehow curious, why theymos and people behind bitcointalk.org / bitcoin.org didn't get that domain. On another hand OP, it doesn't matter much what was website's history which was built on bitcoin.com domain if Roger plans to sell because this is top domain. Just check yourself keyword "Bitcoin" in google keyword planner and you'll see the results. So domain bitcoin.com worths millions and if we consider the fact that it's news website, these news worths money too and it adds extra price to it but domain alone still rocks.
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September 17, 2019, 07:49:17 PM |
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If Roge offers it for sale, Did you think that theymos will buy it? I don't know but I think he has enough money and motivation to do it.
I don't think theymos has a few spare millions to blow on a domain. It's more likely that it would be bought by Jack, Twitter and Square CEO, or maybe Tim Draper if he feels it can help him business-wise. It's a great domain for sure, but the thing is that not many people can put that domain to work in an efficient and profitable way. Roger has shown how to turn it into a money making machine and symbol of power. Roger has enough BTC left he can dump to finance his businesses. He would do everything to not sell it. At the end of the day, just keeping that domain will only cost him $10 a year. Not a big deal.
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September 17, 2019, 09:30:43 PM |
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I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
I still don't see Ver selling bitcoin.com even if BCH dies. The potential money that could be made using the domain is still a lot, and that it could also be worth a lot more in the future as more money comes into bitcoin and as adoption grows. Unless of course, that he would be offered a huge sum of money; higher than it's current value(whatever the value may be). Anything does have a price and we wouldnt know if Ver will reconsider it if he do see some considerable numbers that been offered but for sure it wont be cheap but for now I dont see a reason for him to sell it out, when it comes to financial aspect we know Rogers capability and for sure he wont need some cash at the moment. The time comes where he do need to pull out some then the possibilities is always there.
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September 17, 2019, 11:00:35 PM |
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What happened to that account, s/he started giving inaccurate and sometimes conflicting information, I tried to correct one of that information but he blocked me. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) At least it's better than before. It seems that @Bitcoin is owned by someone unkown who's leasing out that account to the highest bidder. The highest bidder used to be Roger Ver, hence the BCash propaganda posts, but now it's controlled by a true Bitcoiner with a dislike towards everything Roger Ver was Tweeting about. The downside to this is that we don't know what will happen when the person who's currently in control of the @Bitcoin account no longer has the funds to extend the lease. In that case I'm pretty certain that Roger will attempt to get it back to shill BCash crap again. It really sucks that the actual account owner only cares about profiteering and not about the community that Roger has been lying to for so long. This is the current account lessee; https://twitter.com/theinstagibbs/status/1163837511287869441
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This domain is not easy to estimate the price I'm sure the value will be a hundred k+ or millions due to high traffic and high authority backlinks like the analysis from similarweb posted above. As you can see on the analysis that the half of the traffics comes from a direct source it means most people directly type bitcoin.com into the browser. Why not use some Domain value calculator? I think it will give you the estimated value of the website, not accurate but it will still give you the idea of how much will be the value of the website. Look at this estimator here https://bitcoin.com.cutestat.com/ The estimated value for that domain is $ 1,580,040.00 Too expensive... How about this estimator http://www.markosweb.com/www/bitcoin.com/The estimated domain worth is $6,002 Pretty cheap compared to above... So it's not easy to estimate what will be the value of this domain if you want a list of website value estimator you can check them from here 9 Websites to Check Your Website Value Online
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September 18, 2019, 04:12:53 AM |
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I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
I still don't see Ver selling bitcoin.com even if BCH dies. The potential money that could be made using the domain is still a lot, and that it could also be worth a lot more in the future as more money comes into bitcoin and as adoption grows. Unless of course, that he would be offered a huge sum of money; higher than it's current value(whatever the value may be). If the domain no longer serves the political purpose of promoting BCH, Ver can calculate how much income the domain is expected to generate over time, and use a net present value estimation of the value of the future income to determine how much the domain is worth. If he receives an offer greater than this amount, he will likely sell the domain. The political value of bitcoin.com far outweighs the FMV of the domain IMO.
I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
this is key---roger has sunk a lot of capital into BCH. the launch of the bitcoin.com exchange (pushing BCH pairs) shows he's obviously prepared to dig himself even deeper. there's no way he's giving up the domain, especially after losing the @bitcoin twitter handle. Ideally he will eventually come to his senses regarding BCH. I really don't see the value in storing a transaction for every time someone buys a coffee in New York or Miami (I have no interest in keeping transactions from across the country). I don't know how much of his net worth is tied up in BCH, and how much BTC he has left, and how easily he could convert his BCH into BTC without destroying the price of BCH.
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September 18, 2019, 05:13:50 AM |
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I don’t see Ver selling bitcoin.com unless bcash is no more, or Ver decides to get back into bitcoin.
Roger never left bitcoin to want to come back to it. he has always been "in" bitcoin! things like BCash are only additional revenues for people like him to make themselves richer. you are right about the "political value" of this domain though and i don't think he will ever sell it even if BCash died and someone offered a very good deal for the domain. it is not like he needs the money. at some point having the "power" is more important than the money.
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September 18, 2019, 05:42:56 AM |
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If the domain no longer serves the political purpose of promoting BCH, Ver can calculate how much income the domain is expected to generate over time, and use a net present value estimation of the value of the future income to determine how much the domain is worth. If he receives an offer greater than this amount, he will likely sell the domain. Yeap. It completely boils down to how much the offer would be; and knowing how passionate Ver is, the offer would need to be far bigger than it's current worth for him to consider selling it. The potential money to be made from making bitcoin.com an on-ramp exchange is just too big. I'm very sure that Roger could get away with selling bitcoin with a 20% premium just because of the domain itself, from taking advantage of people who think bitcoin.com is sort of like the "official bitcoin website" or something lol.
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September 18, 2019, 02:46:22 PM |
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Estimates on how much bitcoin.com would fetch on the open market?
He leased / rented it a few years ago for something around 10k/month, but the people who leased it were garbage at running a website / business and he took it back. As for the value I don't think he will sell it and doubt he'll put a value on it. Please can you share the history of bitcoin.com domain? I am really interested how Roger get his hands on this domain and somehow curious, why theymos and people behind bitcointalk.org / bitcoin.org didn't get that domain. On another hand OP, it doesn't matter much what was website's history which was built on bitcoin.com domain if Roger plans to sell because this is top domain. Just check yourself keyword "Bitcoin" in google keyword planner and you'll see the results. So domain bitcoin.com worths millions and if we consider the fact that it's news website, these news worths money too and it adds extra price to it but domain alone still rocks. I'm not sure of specifics, I know many years ago bitcoin.com just redirected to bitcoin.org. Then it was leased to a group from Roger and the next part of what I remember is a tweet / message from Roger bashing on the people he leased it to after they claimed they couldn't run it at a profit. Sometime after that it was returned to his control and then it became the bitcoin.com of today (well started to at least). To be fair he was "bashing" on them because they claimed they couldn't pay but still wanted to run the site. His bashing was along the lines of how to run a website and what things you could do to bring in some revenue so they could pay him.
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September 18, 2019, 06:22:46 PM |
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Please can you share the history of bitcoin.com domain?
According to the man himself (if you can bear to give him a click) https://news.bitcoin.com/the-history-of-bitcoin-com-an-introduction-to-our-new-company-blog/If you can't Bitcoin.com was registered in January of 2008, a year before the protocol was released by Satoshi Nakamoto back in January of 2009. After the domain was created, one of the earliest bitcoin exchanges, Tradehill, took over the website six years ago but the ownership didn’t last long. The trading platform fell apart, and the domain was then transferred over to Roger Ver in April of 2014. Ver explains that he purchased Bitcoin.com for an undisclosed sum. Originally Blockchain.info was going to use the website as the main landing page Ver says, but the idea never came to fruition. Following this Ver negotiated a deal with the Chinese exchange, Okcoin, to lease the website as he had several other offers from interested parties. Ver says that Okcoin provided the best offer for the lease agreement and the two parties worked out an arrangement. Okcoin didn’t put much work into the website’s design and in May of 2015 Ver revealed to the public that the exchange owed him funds for overdue payments. Ver explains that “Okcoin breached the agreement in every manner possible.”
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September 19, 2019, 12:44:35 AM |
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Not sure how much roger would sell it for, but I'm guessing over 25 million, even more, if the government or a political force will buy it up.
I'm going off this figure from recent sales from other popular crypto based domain, like the ones below.
Crypto.com was sold for 12 million to a finance project. (biggest domain sale ever) Tokens.com was sold for 500,000. Tokens.com was also sold for an undisclosed price, I'd assume around the 2 million mark. ETH.com was sold for 2 million.
So 25 million is a fair price assuming that it is the most popular domain in crypto, and the amount of political influence someone or something would have with that domain.
I don't think he would ever sell or lease it again unless it was to a pretty trusted exchange, or a bcash supporter, because I don't think anyone is willing to purchase the domain right now, and Roger has already been screwed over by Okcoin before so it'll be ever harder to get the trade through.
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