Special badge for signature campaign managers?

[poptok1]

Special badge for signature campaign managers would be quite useful feature, i think but...there is always a but.
I have found myself posting to or about people who are not managers, or at least not the managers of the campaign in question.
Can something can be done about it? More importantly, should anything be done to address the issue?
Special colour codding for the coins, for the most renown people, may not be the best solution, it will only indicate that someone is a manager but question will remain, of which of the campaigns.
Requirement for the signature marker, maybe? But that would mean that introduction of a new global rule is mandatory.
How to tackle this? I know that most likely the best solution is no solution at all... but here we go again.

If similar topics where discussed before, please link me to it.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Theymos was thinking to create a different type of account when you create account for a bounty hunters and regular members. There was something mentioned for the bounty managers as well. I'll find it and i'll post ti.

OMG, you are also wearing this avatar.. now I really have to look for who is posting..

[dothebeats]

Sounds like a good idea, but probably not a necessary one. Offer still stands for having your custom title and distinction in ranking in the forum, though I believe that none would take that offer anytime soon knowing that we're not in 2011-2012 anymore. Anyway, perhaps the solution is to be extremely careful when PM'ing/dealing with other people? I mean, we can ask for it to be done but apparently, there are some other things needed to be done in this forum than creating another rank/title/distinction for a select few individuals.

[tranthidung]

Theymos was thinking to create a different type of account when you create account for a bounty hunters and regular members. There was something mentioned for the bounty managers as well. I'll find it and i'll post ti.

I don't think there are new badges like what you said. There are misconception that signature campaigns, bounties belong to the forum. In fact, they are  not. From that, I don't see theymos have reasons to create new badges for campaign managers and/ or bounty hunters.

He only wrote (or forum users proposed) that if things become worst, there will likely required fees to wear signature, and companies have to pay some fees per fixed period (monthly, eg.) to run their campaigns or bounties.

It's too early to get a clear picture, but my thoughts so far:

First, most people complaining about merit are constantly posting garbage, and should not rank-up. The forum is not a welfare system; you don't run through a few hoops and then get paid for doing something that nobody actually wants. I like that good forum members can make money, especially when said forum members are in poorer countries and this is a major opportunity for them. I very much do not want to destroy the sig-ad/airdrop/bounty "industry". But I am not going to tolerate people posting garbage upon garbage. If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).

He only said if merit system fails (what it has not failed, fortunately), he will consider to remove all signatures globally in the forum. If all signatures removed, there are no reasons to have such badges for bounty hunters and bounty/ campaign managers.

[Lucius]

Special badge for signature campaign managers would be quite useful feature, i think but...there is always a but.
If similar topics where discussed before, please link me to it.

I really don't see how special badge would be "quite useful feature" for any signature manager? After all, we all know who are the best campaign managers, and their number is very limited, maybe 10 or something like that?

Some signature managers do their job very poorly, do they also deserve a special badge? Maybe we should have two types of badges, one for good managers, other for bad

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Before you suggest for the forum to acknowledge signature managers, you first have to recommend the moderation of signature campaign, which type is accepted on the forum, rule for signature management and all that. The forum can't acknowledge them if that sector isn't been moderated. The moderators, admin etc have an outlined guideline that give them an idea of their duty that's why they're been recognized with tags.

The signature mangers just like merit sources are like every other regular users of the forum meaning the need for recognition isn't necessary. Anyone can become a merit source, anyone can become a signature manager but not anyone can become a moderator (adminstrative forum user). You have to meet some certain criteria to become a moderator but it take only the approved of the project been promoted to become a signature manger.

[poptok1]

After all, we all know who are the best campaign managers...

OK, so your point is that the best solution is no solution at all? I totally get it. Why fix things that ain't broken, right?
Now here comes my "but":

OMG, you are also wearing this avatar.. now I really have to look for who is posting..

Everything tends to homogenise itself. That's even a law in physics.
One, best signature for all the best posters, most popular / meaningful / whatever, avatar on most accounts etc.
I think we really need some form of unambiguous, visual indicator. One more extra line of personal text maybe?

[NeuroticFish]

A special badge for campaign managers will not be good imho.
First of all, as said, you may end up talking with a campaign manager, but not for the campaign that interests you. Second, there are a lot of campaign manager wannabes, that may want to "enter the business", but since they don't have the badge, they may get even less chance to get a customer.

And unfortunately I don't also have a good idea what could be done...

[poptok1]

And unfortunately I don't also have a good idea what could be done...

Thanks for the input. I think I got it, thanks to you guys cause you kept me thinking.
The answer could be freedom, as always
A check box before new topic in services, that makes your username red green or whatever, just different.
And one extra, unofficial rule "posing as a manager, without campaign to pilot may get you banned/red flagged/is forbidden"
This would of course mean that switching managers during the camp. would require entire new topic. 

[royalfestus]

what happens to campaign started by newbie that cant even carry any avatar? Although, some of this cases the newbie is known to his familiar followers by telegram, however the newbie rank doesn't make him less. Manager should equally have the right to campaign for any project of interest, it could show his preference to other. I dont really see the reason for the badge for now  

[The Cryptovator]

Managers are not related with any forum functions. So from forum side there should not be any special badge for managers. Is there is anything for forum for managers then who will be responsible for if happen any scam. Because we know all about it that scam isn't moderated by forum. So managers couldn't be moderated as well. Anyone able to make thread on bounty section, so it will be hard for forum moderate managers. Implement a badge means forum is related with managers.

Managers could use their own avatar or signature like yahoo62278. It's not necessary they should have badge. What will be happen if a project do not like to hire manager and if they want to manage by themselves? Badge should be added for them also? I think a reputed manager do not need any badge because every hunters know very well.

[Lucius]

OK, so your point is that the best solution is no solution at all? I totally get it. Why fix things that ain't broken, right?

You're looking for a solution for something that is completely irrelevant, how such badge can help in anything? Do we maybe need to ask for a special badge for some other things/users, maybe badge for users with most reports (this was also idea some time ago)? How about badges for users who fight against scammers or ones who send most merits?

These are the things that are probably on the bottom of the priority list for admin at the moment.

[dkbit98]

I think badge is to complicated to integrate in current forum,
but adding plain text on top of the user profile would be much easier solution

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Theymos was thinking to create a different type of account when you create account for a bounty hunters and regular members.

Really?  I don't recall reading anything about that, but it's possible I missed it.

In any case OP, Theymos doesn't seem to be too keen on creating badges for anything, because there have been a lot of suggestions and he hasn't acted on any of them.  I don't think your idea is a bad one at all, though I don't think a badge for campaign managers is necessary.  Right now there aren't a whole lot of them left as far as I can tell, simply because there aren't that many campaigns running anymore.  Old managers like Edwardard and noatek(sp?) seem to have just dropped off the map (although the latter may still be around).

I'd rather see badges for members who've ranked up under the merit system--that was the last suggestion I saw, and it's a real achievement.

[poptok1]

I'd rather see badges for members who've ranked up under the merit system--that was the last suggestion I saw, and it's a real achievement.

Yeap, definitely an achievement worthy of at least one fancy bitcointalk coin
And what's your opinion on my idea from post #9? Everybody seem to have missed this "solution".

You're looking for a solution for something that is completely irrelevant...

Agreed, its a first world problem. No pressure though, I'm just throwing ideas.

[Coyster]

We're yet to get the reporter badges, I doubt we'll ever see this one, at least not for now. Why would one want to identify campaign managers differently, you'll also have to understand that campaign managers come up everyday, mostly ICO CM.

I think if the suggestion had been a sort of badge for the best campaign managers around the forum, then it'll be much more interesting as CM's would then try to do a good job on the campaigns they manage to earn them such badges, but a badge for everyone of them would not work.

[examplens]

Special badge for signature campaign managers would be quite useful feature, i think but...there is always a but.
If similar topics where discussed before, please link me to it.

I really don't see how special badge would be "quite useful feature" for any signature manager? After all, we all know who are the best campaign managers, and their number is very limited, maybe 10 or something like that?

Some signature managers do their job very poorly, do they also deserve a special badge? Maybe we should have two types of badges, one for good managers, other for bad

If someone finds how this badge can be useful I would like to know also.
how will we know who is signature campaign manager and who is wannabes CM like NeuroticFish says? whether a license will be claimed?
And what to do with users who are offering escrow service, whether they deserve some badges?

[Last of the V8s]

We should have a special badge for suggesting special badges. Probably brown.

[Krislaw]

Ideas and plans of theymos for the forum improvements

[thorRJ]

We should have a special badge for suggesting special badges. Probably brown.

And how could the process be so that the (manager) could earn the badge? Voting? Merits?