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September 18, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
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This just came across my mind the other day as I was browsing the regular boards of this forum and found some users within the same board, replying to every topic in a short span of time. A few moments after that, on a different child board (under Alternate Cryptocurrencies), I see this particular user replying to some topics in a short span of time as well, albeit in a constructive manner. Perhaps this may have been discussed for many times now but I can't seem to find a topic here on Meta solely talking about the different facets of the term. So, if one user happened to reply on many topics in under 30 minutes, with constructive and helpful comments, would that still be considered as spamming/post bursting or no?

It occurred to me as sometimes, I open a topic, see another one on a different board, construct a reply to those topics and then forget about submitting reply (due to being occupied by other things at a time) and come back to it. What are the campaign managers' thoughts about this and the community as well?

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So, if one user happened to reply on many topics in under 30 minutes, with constructive and helpful comments, would that still be considered as spamming/post bursting or no?
Months ago, actmyname tested his posting speed when Yobit spam popped up. He made his posts at the rate around 58 posts/ hour (I remembered 5x posts/hours) with post quality is much higher than spam posts from shit posters.
Here you go:
Experiment Archives
Page 1 (1 - 20)
Page 2 (21 - 40)
Page 3 (41- 59)

Analysis
59 posts in 60 minutes. Not bad!
I doubt that if someone can make such posts, there is no reasons to judge them break forum rules.
Personally, if I compose my posts (with good quallity) for different topics, then post all of them at once; I don't see anything wrong and troubles with forum rules.
Nevertheless, in reality, no one has such posting skills. We (non-shitposters) usually spend our time for only one or two posts in different topics. We need time to read, search, compose, and answer with posts, and sure we can not do it at the same time over many topics.

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September 18, 2019, 03:18:49 PM
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There was a member not too long ago who got negged (or booted from a campaign) for post bursting if I recall correctly, but I can't remember his name for the life of me.  And the thing was, he wasn't a shitposter.  He was in a campaign, true, but when I looked at his post history most of his posts were pretty well thought out and constructive.  The only issue was that he made something like 150 posts per week and people were saying he was a spammer.

When I look at my unread topics list, often I see the same names pop up in the "last posted by" column, and usually those are the ones who are making rapid-fire posts with little thought to them, and that often happens in the altcoin section.

So, if one user happened to reply on many topics in under 30 minutes, with constructive and helpful comments, would that still be considered as spamming/post bursting or no?
There are members who are essentially talented forum writers, ones who can write down their thoughts very quickly and lucidly--and they can probably type very fast as well.  As long as a post is constructive and on-topic, I don't see what the problem is.  From a campaign manager's standpoint, however, it's very much frowned upon to make multiple posts within the span of a few minutes--and in a lot of cases, it's against the rules of the campaign. 

I tend to think a lot of members are trying to make the max number of posts for their campaign and are either trying to beat the weekly deadline or get their "work" done as quickly as possible.  Usually the outcome is a bunch of shitposts, but not always.

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September 18, 2019, 03:30:34 PM
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and then forget about submitting reply (due to being occupied by other things at a time) and come back to it. What are the campaign managers' thoughts about this and the community as well?
There is a possibility that the OP will not reply to messages from people who respond to certain topics.

1. The response is not what he wants off-topic, it's sometimes someone who is lazy to answer.
If someone asks about Bitcoin someone else answers about coins and so on.

There are also those who make a topic about information, other people answer what that information.

This is not fair to the people responding to a topic, IMO. People who reply to topics should know that if they are on-topic and they follow the rules, they will not be censored. Also, it is very annoying for reply-writers when they write long, detailed responses and then the topics become off-topic and useless.

Maintaining perfect on-topicness is difficult. In the future, discussions may be made threaded instead of flat, which will basically be like having a system that automatically creates new topics when people are posting off-topic things (in many cases).



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September 18, 2019, 03:56:03 PM
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Natural and composed knowledge brings forth an ease of communication, to which a user can respond to topics with a much higher relative speed than most other users.

I find that I enter a state of 'flow' when it comes to posts, in that I will often see a variety of topics that interest me and post replies to them all in (somewhat) quick succession. I would only truly consider egregious post bursting a significant offence, that is: posting generic or vague remarks that do not add anything to the discussion. This includes regurgitated replies, since repeating an already-stated comment doesn't contribute to anything.

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September 18, 2019, 04:08:35 PM
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Sometimes I "post burst" kinda and am somewhat an inconsistent poster..

Usually I just read and don't post anything, I have over 86 days login time (not always logged in) and visit often but don't post, but when I do get in the mood to post I might make a few posts, or post for a few days/weeks, and then not post for a while or whatever..

My interests also come and go.. I might be really into crypto, or this forum, for a couple months, get bored of it, and move on to one of my other hobbies/interests for a while..
Sometimes I put a huge amount of work into a project and just get burnt out on it and can't bring myself to touch it again for a few months or something, but I have many interests and just move on to something else for a while, and eventually come back to what I got burnt out on after a break from it..

I like not having to do anything and just do whatever I want.. When I must do or finish this or that, meet some deadline or quota, it sucks and I don't enjoy it.. Actually it kinda gives me a phobia of doing it at all if I have to do it which makes me procrastinate and sometimes decrease the quality of my work.. I like to take my time to do things right at my own pace and when I want to do it.. I wouldn't post here at all if I didn't want to do it..

This is the reason I don't apply for campaigns with minimum post quotas.. Just knowing that I have to do it will make me not want to do it and put me in a poor mindset..
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September 18, 2019, 04:26:54 PM
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Post bursting is mostly an issue to the campaign managers as they are thinking users who do such are not concerned about the forum, but are just trying to get their tasks over with.
Users most times get kicked out of campaigns due to that, but it's on extremely lame cases where the OP just acts foolishly and types out obvious gibberish over and again in such a short period of time, this sort of act is annoying really.

Most times I click the reply button without fully knowing exactly what to say, but the more i type, the more i get the flow, this most time takes me time, as i can take quite a lot of time in constructing a single post, then the proofreading aspect, all this makes the posts come out good to an extent and other users can read and appreciate them.
I'd always say it's better to forfeit a weeks bonus than trying to spam just to get there.

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Post bursting is not a problem until they are on topic and making some relevant content to the discussion but likely others said most campaign managers against the post bursting since its kind of activity to finish the post quota to get rewards.

So if you found someone post bursting with less quality posts you can report them to moderator for spam.

Loycev made the job easier for anyone to find who is bursting posts : Active users and top posters in the past 1h, 24h and 7d

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Post bursting is not a problem until they are on topic and making some relevant content to the discussion but likely others said most campaign managers against the post bursting since its kind of activity to finish the post quota to get rewards.

Somewhat, post bursting is not the problem, most campaign managers believe that you should take out your time to read a post before replying to it, majority of posts made already have discussions going on in the thread, so a user should take out time to read and ensure their contributions is relevant.

Same way we have a cool down time for merits awarding, searches and reports. All this measures prevents abuse of the system. (Or errors of double spending, in the case of merits).

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Campaign managers can simply void any posts they consider post bursting if they so wished. However, as long as the replies are constructive there's no rule against posting on multiple different threads in quick succession as long as its not breaking another rule such as low quality or multiple posts in a row etc.

From a personal standpoint I've seen some incredible posters who post in multiple threads at a time, and you might notice that the top 10 threads last reply was from them, but their replies are largely constructive. We haven't all got time to be on the forum throughout the day, and I don't expect users to split their posts out in 30 minute intervals like some of the campaigns suggest. Its down to the discretion of the campaign manager to determine what they want for their campaign for the most effective advertising. However, as a user I don't care if users "post bursting" in this manner as long as its constructive.

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I find that I enter a state of 'flow' when it comes to posts, in that I will often see a variety of topics that interest me and post replies to them all in (somewhat) quick succession. I would only truly consider egregious post bursting a significant offence, that is: posting generic or vague remarks that do not add anything to the discussion. This includes regurgitated replies, since repeating an already-stated comment doesn't contribute to anything.

If not for my current work on the laboratory, I would have spent a lot of time here in the forum and just reply to topics that I can add something to, or just enter a discussion I'm really interested on. I agree with the state of fluidity in posting whenever you're into it, and has happened to me every so often, especially when I'm not in the lab breaking stuff and ruining my setups.

But yeah, the forum moderators might not really consider posts that are made in quick succession a spam if it contributed to the topic in a huge way. Campaign managers might find it off and somewhat breaking the rules of the campaign, but for abiding the forum rules, that's not really a problem at all.

I like not having to do anything and just do whatever I want.. When I must do or finish this or that, meet some deadline or quota, it sucks and I don't enjoy it.. Actually it kinda gives me a phobia of doing it at all if I have to do it which makes me procrastinate and sometimes decrease the quality of my work.. I like to take my time to do things right at my own pace and when I want to do it.. I wouldn't post here at all if I didn't want to do it..

Why do I feel like you're personally attacking me in an indirect way? Because this is me in my dissertation currently Cheesy

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