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March 16, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
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I was thinking, what would the community want most in a altcoin? Something that is possibly original?
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March 16, 2014, 08:49:31 PM
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Maybe a new algorithm?
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March 16, 2014, 08:53:24 PM
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I was thinking, what would the community want most in a altcoin?

What about a multi-threaded, plugin capable, multi-platform java client? Like the one Goldcoin (GLD) is about to release!  Tongue
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March 16, 2014, 09:21:50 PM
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Energy efficient way to solve the double spend problem.

10 sec confirmation time.

Send to email address.
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March 16, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
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ASIC resistant like Vertcoin.
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March 16, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
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An alt coin that could be usable at merchants, and block reward voting like Heavycoin.

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March 16, 2014, 09:49:20 PM
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some kind of sliding window, not an ever growing download/sync



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March 16, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
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high fiber and low carbs
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March 16, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
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Anonymous decentralized sex monkey game?  Lips sealed
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March 16, 2014, 10:10:59 PM
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Some good ideas here; and many of these can be implemented in an existing coin.
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March 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
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Maybe a new algorithm?

Like Cuckoo Cycle (https://github.com/tromp/cuckoo) ?
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March 16, 2014, 10:16:53 PM
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At this time, I don't even want another altcoin. It seems like all the new altcoins (xx per day) is ruining the marked for existing coins.. And most of these new altcoins are just a quick dump coin.

A great altcoin should be fast, reliable, someone against quick dumps, has unique features, many options to use (in for example webshops, and not directly linked to BTC) and a strong team behind it.

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March 17, 2014, 12:49:02 AM
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i want an altoin, that acts as an reliable store of value. It doesn't need to make 1000% in 24h ... is is better if it grows at sustainable and stable rates so i don't have to check twice a day if it is dead and abandoned already after the first bubble crashed or if i got myself two more days to sell it off at only a small loss before it is then finally abandoned for the next new shit.
So right now i would buy any coin that won't be worthless in 8 weeks
It can also be an old coin brought back to life.
I would prefer some of my older coins i am still bagholding (because i didnt want to sell at a loss) would come back a bit. Would prefer that over new features of wothless new coins. I am more interested in that 'value-feature' than in chatboxes in clients.
For sure we don't need more trash that fades after only one cycle of buying, crashing and burn.
Devs should create sustainability, reliability and trust right now instead of promises and gimmicks.
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March 17, 2014, 01:14:15 AM
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1. Fast transaction times / confirmation times
2. No bloated blockchain
3. Good client that does not leak ram or require enormous ram
4. Multiple algorithms that ensure that if one breaks, another can hold it together. Ideally the algorithms should be quantum computing resistant and not follow stuff like prime numbers which might have hidden patterns / order in chaos that might be predictable.
5. Optional privacy features that are NSA-proof and Artificial-Intelligence-Analysis proof, even from AI that will be created in the next 20-30 years, which will be able to detect patterns and assemble the "puzzle" that today might not be able to be assembled.
6. Network security that is NSA-proof
7. Scarce + valuable with a good mining curve that ensures network safety and miners
8. Low inflation
9. A way to make mining, more PC-centric rather than farm centric.
10. A way to resist NSA-takeover of the network if they ever desire to develop asics for "asic-proof" coins (bitcoin is paradoxically more secure due to asics being deployed to private parties)
11. Easier transactions and friendly client - one that your grandma can use, without being afraid that her coins will be stolen or that she'll lose some, but at the same time being safe.
12. An address-shortening service (?) like tiny url for large addresses
13. An added value network within the currency network that allows people to interact through messages or voice or camera, in an encrypted/secure way, by paying the miners.
14. An AI modular interface. Currencies, up to now, are mechanistic with if/then/else. A modular currency can allow the running of it by an AI "clerk" that will process all transactions all the while ensuring all other aspects of network operation. Currently the network operation is handled by strict and "dumb" algorithms. This could change in the future by having a "mr Data" type of AI running all transactions. That AI will be neutral, but smart, in that it will be able to mitigate DOS attacks, prioritize payments, services, updates etc, protect the network from forks by sending the appropriate notifications or taking the right measures, protect the network from malicious 51% attacks and double spending - no matter the level of collusion present, make adequate adjustments in order to completely anonymize transactions or to randomize/induce chaos for preventing pattern recognition, optimize bandwidth usage or blockchain stuff, or other encrypted services running over the same network etc. It could even detect patterns of controlled nodes by one part who seeks to understand the anonymous network by controlling as many nodes as possible. To these type of nodes, the AI could send them garbage as "noise" in order to counter-them / mislead them...

* In my opinion, the next best solution to the Byzantine General problem that also eliminates the 51% threat, could be an AI solution, where a neutral "robot" (program in actuality) will be a metalayer of transaction approval - denying 51% double spending exploits. Being neutral the AI will allow everything except those things that jeopardize a coin's integrity, the network safety etc etc. We are talking about metahuman levels of intelligence here that could be possible in, say, 15-20 years.
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March 17, 2014, 01:40:37 AM
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1. Fast transaction times / confirmation times
2. No bloated blockchain
3. Good client that does not leak ram or require enormous ram
4. Multiple algorithms that ensure that if one breaks, another can hold it together. Ideally the algorithms should be quantum computing resistant and not follow stuff like prime numbers which might have hidden patterns / order in chaos that might be predictable.
5. Optional privacy features that are NSA-proof and Artificial-Intelligence-Analysis proof, even from AI that will be created in the next 20-30 years, which will be able to detect patterns and assemble the "puzzle" that today might not be able to be assembled.
6. Network security that is NSA-proof
7. Scarce + valuable with a good mining curve that ensures network safety and miners
8. Low inflation
9. A way to make mining, more PC-centric rather than farm centric.
10. A way to resist NSA-takeover of the network if they ever desire to develop asics for "asic-proof" coins (bitcoin is paradoxically more secure due to asics being deployed to private parties)
11. Easier transactions and friendly client - one that your grandma can use, without being afraid that her coins will be stolen or that she'll lose some, but at the same time being safe.
12. An address-shortening service (?) like tiny url for large addresses
13. An added value network within the currency network that allows people to interact through messages or voice or camera, in an encrypted/secure way, by paying the miners.
14. An AI modular interface. Currencies, up to now, are mechanistic with if/then/else. A modular currency can allow the running of it by an AI "clerk" that will process all transactions all the while ensuring all other aspects of network operation. Currently the network operation is handled by strict and "dumb" algorithms. This could change in the future by having a "mr Data" type of AI running all transactions. That AI will be neutral, but smart, in that it will be able to mitigate DOS attacks, prioritize payments, services, updates etc, protect the network from forks by sending the appropriate notifications or taking the right measures, protect the network from malicious 51% attacks and double spending - no matter the level of collusion present, make adequate adjustments in order to completely anonymize transactions or to randomize/induce chaos for preventing pattern recognition, optimize bandwidth usage or blockchain stuff, or other encrypted services running over the same network etc. It could even detect patterns of controlled nodes by one part who seeks to understand the anonymous network by controlling as many nodes as possible. To these type of nodes, the AI could send them garbage as "noise" in order to counter-them / mislead them...

* In my opinion, the next best solution to the Byzantine General problem that also eliminates the 51% threat, could be an AI solution, where a neutral "robot" (program in actuality) will be a metalayer of transaction approval - denying 51% double spending exploits. Being neutral the AI will allow everything except those things that jeopardize a coin's integrity, the network safety etc etc. We are talking about metahuman levels of intelligence here that could be possible in, say, 15-20 years.

What a list  Grin

Many of these items are good and doable even in an existing client.

Keep it rolling folks; I have no doubt that we will start seeing some of these suggestions in alt-coins soon.
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March 17, 2014, 01:42:29 AM
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Simples, scrypt ASIC proof POS coin, zero premine, 2% of mining coins goes to a fund to create a business.
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March 17, 2014, 02:25:32 AM
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Aside from the above "specifics" of the coin I think you need to think about value.
How do you add value to a coin/ currency?
You need to link it with a business, a big, reputable business.
Therefore alot of groundwork and negotiations needs to take place before launching a coin.
Lets give some examples:
PCCOIN. Used to purchase PC equipment,
MEDICOIN-pay for your surgery, GP visits etc
BDAYCOIN-used to give vouchers in any currency as a digital gift
FOODCOIN-used for your groceries.

So rather than a 1 coin fits all mentality of bitcoin for everything, create coins for niche markets with real value.
The question will then arise whats in it for the businesses?
They can sell more products!
They simply have a price tied to bitcoin for example, 1 laptop =1000 PCCOINS and 1000 PCCOINS = 1 bitcoin
1000 PC coins is then converted to bitcoin then ultimately fiat (if they have to).
if I could say to myself, hmm "I think I need a PC upgrade, I may go mine some PCCOINS", how awesome would that be!
Much better than, Oh  i think i need some doge coins but hang on, what's that for?
Or: I need a new PC, I better go get a fiat job and pay my taxes like a good boy.
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March 17, 2014, 05:12:24 AM
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Totally anonymous transactions. Cant be traced.
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March 17, 2014, 05:20:48 AM
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Totally anonymous transactions. Cant be traced.


I think that's an amazing idea...

Plus a coin that is easily used in the general market... so that I don't have to convert it to USD. Cheesy

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September 15, 2018, 12:23:42 PM
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1. Quick exchange times/affirmation times

2. No enlarged blockchain

3. Great customer that does not spill slam or require gigantic smash

4. Numerous calculations that guarantee that on the off chance that one breaks, another can hold it together. In a perfect world the calculations ought to be quantum figuring safe and not take after stuff like prime numbers which may have concealed examples/arrange in turmoil that may be unsurprising.

5. Discretionary protection includes that are NSA-confirmation and Artificial-Intelligence-Analysis verification, even from AI that will be made in the following 20-30 years, which will have the capacity to recognize designs and gather the "baffle" that today probably won't have the capacity to be collected.

6. System security that is NSA-evidence
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