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September 20, 2019, 10:50:52 AM Last edit: September 21, 2019, 02:56:17 PM by Rikafip Merited by bones261 (4), Daniel91 (1), morvillz7z (1) |
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As it is usually the case, investigating one scam often takes you to another one. And in this one, Datbit brought me to Super8, highly suspicious project that has too many similarities with Datbit scam for it to be just a coincidence. Super8 websitehttps://super8.network/index.htmlArchive https://archive.fo/hQfkiNew Ann threadhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176333.msg52502723#msg52502723Archive https://archive.fo/epxdROld Ann threadhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158400.msg51600227#msg51600227So let's start with similarities between those Forum user that started 1st Super8 Ann (thomassaba) thread was also shilling Datbit thread, and for that he got negative trust https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1100821From my experience, this is simply too much to be just coincidence, most likely it is the same team behind both ICOs.
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I think you right on the money here, way too many similarities between those two projects, and to add to your findings i believe SUPER8 have added Jhon Loi (real name Loi Sun Kong or John Loi) without his consent. Super8 contact of Jhon Loi, according to ICOBench is this LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhon-loi-5a01bb193/ (b&w picture of him, also image is rotated). Here is his real LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-loi-311096170/ which is confirmed here: https://icobench.com/u/loi-sun-kong-john-loiAnother red flag would be Sakib Raj's involvement in Super8. He is listed as a team member Acash Coin, project caught by tvplus006 to have a plagiarized whitepaper (they also have at least one fake team member John James - H&M model).
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September 21, 2019, 08:11:43 PM Last edit: October 15, 2019, 04:34:59 PM by super8 |
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To clarify your doubts, Super8 is not a scam and we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. As a little startup team we had less members and more we said ok and he said i post on Bitcointalk but that post got red alert . So officially we created our account and posting here. By this negativity we removed him very soon. Registered company : https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12225004KYC Completed: https://icobench.com/ico/super-8
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September 21, 2019, 08:19:20 PM |
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I think you right on the money here, way too many similarities between those two projects, and to add to your findings i believe SUPER8 have added Jhon Loi (real name Loi Sun Kong or John Loi) without his consent. Super8 contact of Jhon Loi, according to ICOBench is this LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhon-loi-5a01bb193/ (b&w picture of him, also image is rotated). Here is his real LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-loi-311096170/ which is confirmed here: https://icobench.com/u/loi-sun-kong-john-loiAnother red flag would be Sakib Raj's involvement in Super8. He is listed as a team member Acash Coin, project caught by tvplus006 to have a plagiarized whitepaper (they also have at least one fake team member John James - H&M model). Yes John loi sir giving us suggestion and as mentor to us. Yes he had old LinkedIn profile too. New profile using for active and discussion with other through it for super8 coin and he had much interest in the pandaras project, he is one of inverter in it and promoting worldwide. And Sakib works for many projects and he only helps in listing to exchanges. He seriously working for Super8 coin success discussing with many exchanges and marketing agencies.
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September 21, 2019, 09:32:57 PM |
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To clarify your doubts, Super8 is not a scam and we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. As a little startup team we had less members and more we said ok and he said i post on Bitcointalk but that post got red alert . So officially we created our account and posting here. By this negativity we removed him very soon.
You are not related to Jhon Steaves , while you put him among core team members in your whitepaper? So you want to say you did no background check who you are putting in your whitepaper and naming as as one of core members? I am sorry but i don't buy that. Beside that, how do you explain Ashokkumar R.J having exactly the same experience as "Larry Ducles" who is btw fake person, that Datbit made? Yes John loi sir giving us suggestion and as mentor to us. Yes he had old LinkedIn profile too. New profile using for active and discussion with other through it for super8 coin and he had much interest in the pandaras project, he is one of inverter in it and promoting worldwide.
And Sakib works for many projects and he only helps in listing to exchanges. He seriously working for Super8 coin success discussing with many exchanges and marketing agencies.
So "Jhon Loi" made new LinkedIn account just for Super8 ? That doesn't make any sense Regarding Sakib Raj, he only helps with exchange listing, and yet you mentioned him as core team member? And what about @Jhonsteaves, as he is also mentioned in your contact as listing manager? You have 2 listing managers, Sakib Raj and @Jhonsteaves? So to sum it up, from 3 core team members you have: -1(Ashokkumar R.J0 that has exactly same experience as fake person from another scam project. -1(Jhon Loi ) that made brand new LinkedIn account just for Super8 purposes. -1 (Sakib Raj) that copied part of his experience from another scam project, was involved in another project that copied WP and has fake team member and is just "helping you with exchanges. So many questions, but no proper answers.
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September 21, 2019, 09:58:45 PM Last edit: September 21, 2019, 11:15:24 PM by super8 |
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To clarify your doubts, Super8 is not a scam and we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. As a little startup team we had less members and more we said ok and he said i post on Bitcointalk but that post got red alert . So officially we created our account and posting here. By this negativity we removed him very soon.
You are not related to Jhon Steaves , while you put him among core team members in your whitepaper? So you want to say you did no background check who you are putting in your whitepaper and naming as as one of core members? I am sorry but i don't buy that. Beside that, how do you explain Ashokkumar R.J having exactly the same experience as "Larry Ducles" who is btw fake person, that Datbit made? Yes John loi sir giving us suggestion and as mentor to us. Yes he had old LinkedIn profile too. New profile using for active and discussion with other through it for super8 coin and he had much interest in the pandaras project, he is one of inverter in it and promoting worldwide.
And Sakib works for many projects and he only helps in listing to exchanges. He seriously working for Super8 coin success discussing with many exchanges and marketing agencies.
So "Jhon Loi" made new LinkedIn account just for Super8 ? That doesn't make any sense Regarding Sakib Raj, he only helps with exchange listing, and yet you mentioned him as core team member? And what about @Jhonsteaves, as he is also mentioned in your contact as listing manager? You have 2 listing managers, Sakib Raj and @Jhonsteaves? So to sum it up, from 3 core team members you have: -1(Ashokkumar R.J0 that has exactly same experience as fake person from another scam project. -1(Jhon Loi ) that made brand new LinkedIn account just for Super8 purposes. -1 (Sakib Raj) that copied part of his experience from another scam project, was involved in another project that copied WP and has fake team member and is just "helping you with exchanges. So many questions, but no proper answers. Hello we didn't put team details initially in whitepaper @Jhonsteaves updated it. We removed him and update whitpaper with our profiles. Yes Jhon loi sir really working for us and pandaros comunity development, if you need i will give you his telegram id you can talk to him. so please remove this post it effecting our project
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Hello we didn't put team details initially in whitepaper @Jhonsteaves updated it. We removed him and update whitpaper with our profiles. Yes Jhon loi sir really working for us and pandaros comunity development, if you need i will give you his telegram id you can talk to him. so please remove this post it effecting our project
So now @Jhonsteaves was updating team details in your whitepaper (to be honest that is hardly a whitepaper, more like onepager at best) while you said: we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. . How can you allow listing manager that is not part of your team to update your whitepaper at willy nilly? I am looking at your team details, and all you did is that you changed description. Funny thing, Sakib Raj suddenly has less experience, from 5 years down to 3. In the best case scenario, even if what you are saying is true, you are very negligent as a team and you shouldn't be entrusted with someone else's money. Bottom line remains the same: you copied team description from another scam, and when you got caught, now you are putting real stuff(allegedly). And the thing is, since you lied before, i am inclined to believe that you are lying again.
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September 22, 2019, 01:05:16 PM Last edit: October 15, 2019, 04:48:26 PM by super8 |
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Hello we didn't put team details initially in whitepaper @Jhonsteaves updated it. We removed him and update whitpaper with our profiles. Yes Jhon loi sir really working for us and pandaros comunity development, if you need i will give you his telegram id you can talk to him. so please remove this post it effecting our project
So now @Jhonsteaves was updating team details in your whitepaper (to be honest that is hardly a whitepaper, more like onepager at best) while you said: we are not related to Jhon Steaves he approaches us to be part of our team as listing manager. . How can you allow listing manager that is not part of your team to update your whitepaper at willy nilly? I am looking at your team details, and all you did is that you changed description. Funny thing, Sakib Raj suddenly has less experience, from 5 years down to 3. In the best case scenario, even if what you are saying is true, you are very negligent as a team and you shouldn't be entrusted with someone else's money. Bottom line remains the same: you copied team description from another scam, and when you got caught, now you are putting real stuff(allegedly). And the thing is, since you lied before, i am inclined to believe that you are lying again. We want to be more transparent, so we updated all info with our core team, supporting team and other services with their contacts too. you can contact any one and ask about the things. Here is our whitepaper link : https://super8.network/whitepaper.pdf This is our team request remove these posts please Registered company : https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12225004KYC Completed: https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Can i know your Bitvest registration please?
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We want to be more transparent, so we updated all info with our core team, supporting team and other services with their contacts too. you can contact any one and ask about the things. Here is our whitepaper link : https://super8.network/whitepaper.pdf This is our team request remove these posts please From your updated whitepaper Your News Publisher "Emma Romano" This is actually a well known actress Ellen PageI don't wanna even check other members, as everything is obvious here.
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September 22, 2019, 02:37:12 PM Last edit: September 22, 2019, 04:47:55 PM by super8 |
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We want to be more transparent, so we updated all info with our core team, supporting team and other services with their contacts too. you can contact any one and ask about the things. Here is our whitepaper link : https://super8.network/whitepaper.pdf This is our team request remove these posts please From your updated whitepaper Your News Publisher "Emma Romano" This is actually a well known actress Ellen PageI don't wanna even check other members, as everything is obvious here. Bro please check this link https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?facetCurrentCompany=%5B%2214429449%22%5D . She takes money from us to publish news articles and published. I don't know that it was her pic or not but remaining pics are taken from them personally. you can contact any person ask about their work with us. Check this too: https://i.imgur.com/XvPpBgd.png
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September 24, 2019, 05:30:24 PM |
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper.
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September 26, 2019, 05:09:34 PM Last edit: October 15, 2019, 04:47:57 PM by super8 |
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper. I don't know whether she uses fake picture or not. We hire her and she did her job in hours of time, so we updated her profile in support services. You believe or not we says all the truth and displaying here because only people not misunderstand this project as scam because of wrong person, which we already removed from our team. Here is the chat that how we connected her Registered company : https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12225004KYC Completed: https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Can i know your Bitvest registration please?
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nice project that ieo on p2pb2b which top 1 exchange on cmc
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nice project that ieo on p2pb2b which top 1 exchange on cmc
I am not surprised that they found exchange like P2PB2B to host their IEO, since one of their team members claims that he works for that exchange. It's just another proof that most of the exchanges will accept just about any project that is willing to pay the fee, so everyone should do their own due diligence and not rely on the others.
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nice project that ieo on p2pb2b which top 1 exchange on cmc
I am not surprised that they found exchange like P2PB2B to host their IEO, since one of their team members claims that he works for that exchange. It's just another proof that most of the exchanges will accept just about any project that is willing to pay the fee, so everyone should do their own due diligence and not rely on the others. Registered company : https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12225004KYC Completed: https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Can i know your Bitvest registration please?
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So you want to say that because i am part of Bitvest signature campaign, i have some ulterior motive here? C'mon , don't be ridiculous.You are the one that used team description from another scam project and used some people with fake profiles in your whitepaper. And if you have any questions about Bitvest, ask in their BTT thread. And now let's get back to Super8. I see that you updated your website a bit, with FAQ section. But what is interesting about it is that you basically copied DASH FAQ. Super 8 archiveDASH FAQSuper8DASHSuper8DASHThere are more examples, but these are enough. So after all previous stuff, now we can add plagiarism as well. I am curious to see what you have to say about that, how do you explain it?
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper. I am now curious, who is an expert on Icobench? He gives rating 5 to Super8 team even if they impersonate in whitepaper person which hired to publish some news. https://icobench.com/ico/super-8
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper. I am now curious, who is an expert on Icobench? He gives rating 5 to Super8 team even if they impersonate in whitepaper person which hired to publish some news. https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Hah yeah, tells you everything you have to know about ICObench, ratings, and their "experts" . To give all three 5s to project with so many issues is beyond ridiculous. And from what i can see, they don't even care that they plagiarized DASH FAQ, i thought that they might remove it, but nothing so far.
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper. I am now curious, who is an expert on Icobench? He gives rating 5 to Super8 team even if they impersonate in whitepaper person which hired to publish some news. https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Hah yeah, tells you everything you have to know about ICObench, ratings, and their "experts" . To give all three 5s to project with so many issues is beyond ridiculous. And from what i can see, they don't even care that they plagiarized DASH FAQ, i thought that they might remove it, but nothing so far. Hello Super8 is fork of Dash coin, so we used the same faq because of similar things. If you use the wallet you would know it clearly we display in start of wallet.
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This doesn't help your case at all. It just confirms that you hired someone with fake LinkedIn picture, you did no background check, and what is even worse, you included that person in your whitepaper. I am now curious, who is an expert on Icobench? He gives rating 5 to Super8 team even if they impersonate in whitepaper person which hired to publish some news. https://icobench.com/ico/super-8Our team member did it mistakenly and we got noticed by Rikafip and we removed it same day. So you can contact any team member with help of their contacts display in website and ask about things.
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