This is not a ponzi scheme, Remember????????

[firmino10]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key 

[Kvalentine]

Thanks for sharing your wisdom, people of nowadays want to get rich without giving anything in return, tell me how will they end up been rich when they can't even endure and learn how to get better? there is no short cut to legit success unless you want to take the bad path to achieve your goals, stop expecting things to be easy, thats not real life

[DarkDays]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key  

You are always going to get people complaining about their losses. These are usually the people that buy in during the FOMO periods and then get rekt shortly after.

Educated traders, analysts and successful investors don't have the time to come on Bitcointalk and start bawling over their losses.

Pro tip: if you come on here and start complaining about losing some cash, you were not qualified to invest in the first place.

[AjithBtc]

Everytime we cannot expect things to go as we predict. There will be changes in between which is common with each and every form of investment. When it comes to cryptocurrency something gets termed to be a scam when the price that dropped low will never get recovered in the long term. This can be based on the lack of development, lack of funding and various other factors. I've come across very few projects that keep on working to retain the potential which is been lost due to some reason. Those will surely profit big in the long term.

[Mighty_crypt]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key  

You are always going to get people complaining about their losses. These are usually the people that buy in during the FOMO periods and then get rekt shortly after.

Educated traders, analysts and successful investors don't have the time to come on Bitcointalk and start bawling over their losses.

Pro tip: if you come on here and start complaining about losing some cash, you were not qualified to invest in the first place.

Simple as that! You nailed it pal, right from the start every investors should know that crypto investment is risky and they shouldn't complain after things go sideways, they should be expecting that already, want i do know is where there is no risks there will never be enough gain or rewards

[bitstalker]

The adage that you quoted is true, but I think it's only natural that they say scam because there is a possibility that the project they chose is really a bad project and potentially scam, especially if they invest in projects in 2017/2018 some projects that have experienced all time high destroyed, and maybe the members here have been stuck buying them and holding them back if they say scam to the project that I mean I feel is very reasonable.

[bigcash2011]

Yeah i totally agree and i think that your due diligence and research before investing is the key and once you are satisfied with the project, product and the team then you should invest confidently and then also be patient and let the team develop and deliver before you should take profit.

[poornamelessme]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key 

Agreed, but that's kind of human nature. So it doesn't surprise me in the least. Although to be fair, it's not uncommon for projects to be actual scams here, and although investors should understand the risks, it's not unreasonable to complain when a dev absconds with a pile of cash.

But when folks complain because a new token/coin dumps as soon as it hits the market, especially when there were early investors who bought at like 2-3x less than you, then it's not warranted. That info should have been out there, so they should have understood the risks.

The only part of folks complaining that I find odd and which annoys me somewhat is when certain coins are labeled shitcoins or scams simply because the entire market is down. That never made an ounce of sense to me when referring to decent coins... ETH is a shitcoin,  blah blah. If the entire market is down, I'm not sure what they expected really, it's not an individual coin issue, just a market issue.

[jessyj48]

No risk no reward, newbies you've been warned, if you can't endure all the pains how will you gain? know that there is possibilities of losing and there is possibilities of wining too, whatever the case might be you should be ready for the worst, good things always takes time

[Chuky92]

Yes you right, risk is part of the things to bear in mind in any Investment, even also, most teams will add risk assessment in their whitepaper to educate their investors but sadly enough most don't read the whitepaper and will also be quick to say all sorts of things. On the other hand, most times investors can be right too when the team aren't doing anything to assure them they are working; imagine after listing and the team goes mute, no development, I have seen cases like this and it's what leads investors into badmouthing the project they once supported. Some that did ICO last year are yet to list while they keep saying they are working and yet nothing to show for.

[jossiel]

The belief of the newbies that if someone invests to a project it means that their money will multiple easily. They don't mitigate and analyze the risk that it has before they invest.

That belief is still there due to the hype that we have seen during 2017. And they don't even analyze the project that they are about to invest, as long as they have heard someone tells that it has the potential, they will invest without hesitation.

[jagaban]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key 

Listen, investors won't complain much if they can see a project actually working. And trust me, ceo and team members taking photos at a crypto event is not a sign of a project that is working. Teams cannot be trusted. In fact they dump tokens at will and then go silent when they have lost their way. They will not announce to investors that the project is dead. They will keep silent. Investors will bear the brunt. So let them complain if they see something off or they notice that the team is lagging. Its their money for fucks sake!!!

[taufik123]

Newbie investors might think this is a Ponzi scheme, but if it's been a long time in the crypto world, it will need patience to get satisfying results. Not all crypto projects are successful when listing to the stock. For example, when a coin is listed on the current exchange, the price does not go up and does not reach the ICO or IEO price, because the market is not possible. It takes time to develop according to the roadmap. So the key to investment is patience and must be vigilant with the SCAM project so that your money is not wasted.

[lobo13hf]

that's true, but so many investors can't even deal with the risk that they have faced it when the price of token is going drop to the bottom. i don't need to mention shitcoin even a token like gram has been loosing more than 50% from its ico price just in a few days. The price of token will not depend on how big the platform or the name of company and even major company that has already known by so many people are giving very bad performance.
Just try to invest that you afford to lose it and this is what must be remember by crypto investors.

[knuckey]

There is an adage that says "if we all knew the outcome of investment then we would all be very rich".
It amazes me when I see investors complaining that the price of a project token dropped after listing and they go on to label the project as scam.
The fact is that they have forgotten the risk part of investment, you can't just expect everything to just come out 100% safe without risk. The price drop is the risky part of it, and you have to be willing to cope with that, support the team and wait for them to turn things around. Remember that it is not a ponzi scheme where your money magically increases over night. Patience is key 

it is true, therefore developers have a plan that they make into a road map as a strategy that they will run, so that the project stays alive and continues to grow.

[tranduong123]

Those are the thoughts of new people or illusionists about this market. The crypto market with projects with profits tens of hundreds of times is making a lot of people have an unrealistic view of investment.

[jorenpo]

its easy. don't invest on crypto if you dont want to lose some money. crypto is very volatile. theres no guarantee that the price goes up or down.
just invest what you afford to lose.

[Alluro]

It depends on the project and team. First of all, you need to understand about token metrics before invest. Because some projects will be offering a huge bouns in private sale and pre-sale. That means the price will be dumping after releasing that tokens. The team members also dumping their tokens. That's why token metrics are very important. The next thing is the price will be depending on the future update of the project after listing. Then you have to keep in touch with the project updates.

[Ghenjer]

I will only say, do not ever spend money as long as you can not manage financial management properly. high risk investments and you need to be responsible for every decision you make. in crypto no one gets rich quickly, all have their own consequences.

[Nasonn]

Patient is the key but have we also considered the loses investors face due to the lack of work from the lack of activity or inactivity of project developers. If a project is good it should add value to investors money not to reduce their investment. This isn't ponzi we all know but projects should work to develop their proje t by adding utility.