WhatsMiner M20 to be delayed 2-3 weeks (edit) may be 5-7 week delay not sure

[philipma1957]

Twitter announcement made.

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT/status/1174010108549853185



Looks like a delay on all those m20s units on order.  Things are swing in the favor of bitmain  and maybe avalon.

It is possible that this gear could face  longer delays then 2-3 weeks.  Based on other companies and delays that have happened in the past.

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[Sparow0841]

Bad news ... I have 8 units on order at home I got the news yesterday from my supplier ... Hoping it meets the 3 weeks max

[philipma1957]

Bad news ... I have 8 units on order at home I got the news yesterday from my supplier ... Hoping it meets the 3 weeks max

M20 or m20s?

That is over 520th if m20s.

Three week delay is 0.20-0.21 Btc before you count your power cost.

Much much much worse then my 9 day delay from innosilicon.

That was about 0.01 btc

[Sparow0841]

8x M20S unfortunately, big loss for, me who thought the assets to touch has a good price ..
I pay € 0.07 / KWH

the worst is the following orders october november, ... which also will be delayed.
A commercial gesture from them would be welcome

[Steamtyme]

Start messaging them for compensation. It won't be much but you should be able to receive something. Starting the conversation now at least gives you an idea of where things are going.
Odds are though it will just be a promise to give you a deal in the future.

[philipma1957]

Start messaging them for compensation. It won't be much but you should be able to receive something. Starting the conversation now at least gives you an idea of where things are going.
Odds are though it will just be a promise to give you a deal in the future.

They may send him a m21 as compensation. Worth about 880 usd.

I know biffa had late t3 t43s and got t3 t50 upgrade on some units.

Maybe he can confirm this. And sparow0841 could point out the upgrade biffa got.

In my case a 9 day delay I was not offered anything from innosilicon.

[Steamtyme]

Yeah I'm just going off my experience with the M20S that was nearly a month late. Right before gear pricing went up and delivery went long; they offered to sell me my next gear at a discount. I believe I had one chance to maybe take them up on this offer, but by the time they got back to me to confirm the time had passed. This is definitely a different situation with a larger order, so I would imagine they should try and do something to accomodate, I doubt it will be a refund, just a deal next time.

Kind of annoying they haven't updated their telegram group with this information.

[philipma1957]

It is buried in there.  But I found link to confirm on a different thread.

[Biffa]

I know biffa had late t3 t43s and got t3 t50 upgrade on some units.

I did, but they were replacements for T39's but then I had little choice.

For the delayed T43's they are offering the split the difference now and ship T50's

But the T50 isn't as efficient as the T43.

I might cancel and just buy bitmain/avalon gear instead.

[Sparow0841]

I sent an email to the press conference I'll come back to you if I have a return

Hello ,
So I made all the steps with my dealer, They told me he was communicating with MicroBT for a fee that will certainly be a good acahat.
And my miners still have not started from their factory .. hoping to have a weekend expedition notice.
I wake up to you once I receive the shipping notice & (voucher

[philipma1957]

I have heard some chatter that pangolin is not shipping and the 2-3 weeks have past it is closer to 5 weeks.

Has anyone had a m20s shipped from pangolinminer in the last 10 days?

https://pangolinminer.com/557-2/

Also has anyone had a m20s shipped from whatsminer.net in the last 10 days?

https://whatsminer.net/shop/

I am trying to determine if any microbt gear is shipping. From the resellers above.

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT

this is the statement on delay of 2-3 weeks

https://twitter.com/Whatsminer_MBT/status/1174010108549853185

made sept 17  today is Oct 8 21 days later.

I am Looking for any confirms on shipped gear.

[Steamtyme]

I can't imagine anything moved last week. Not sure which one but it was a national holiday. Are Laurent and Yang not answering? I've noticed the telegram group has become a shady spam fest.

[fccs]

I am on the October batch for m20.  My guess is I will get delayed too.  I would however expect shipping to start next week if something isn't up unusual.  Last week I'm sure doesn't count due to the holiday, gotta keep that in mind.  I'm expecting on hearing word coming up on my m20's I have ordered for end of month saying I won't get them till end of November at this rate.  Bitmain is the only one actually delivering lately.  Least it's not like strongu, that has never delivered 1 miner all year and is to the point of people saying they are changing the specs on miners that were ordered in April.. aka fraud.

[philipma1957]

I am on the October batch for m20.  My guess is I will get delayed too.  I would however expect shipping to start next week if something isn't up unusual.  Last week I'm sure doesn't count due to the holiday, gotta keep that in mind.  I'm expecting on hearing word coming up on my m20's I have ordered for end of month saying I won't get them till end of November at this rate.  Bitmain is the only one actually delivering lately.  Least it's not like strongu, that has never delivered 1 miner all year and is to the point of people saying they are changing the specs on miners that were ordered in April.. aka fraud.

My fears are something happened beyond  what has been revealed.  We will know just how late this gear will be. As we do have more then one person waiting for shipping in October lets hope gear does start out this week or next week.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Bitmain is the only one actually delivering lately.

Wrong.
So far Canaan has been on sched with their A1047 miners. Got my latest 'Sept delivery' one last week with no reason (so far) to think their Nov and Dec deliveries would be delayed. Their 50THs beast - who knows but historically Canaan has been good with dates.

Back to the Whatsminers, I know they mentioned "Foundry troubles" which I rather take as (pure speculation) they got a large batch of off-spec chips that won't hit normal speeds. MicroBT does like to push their chips to the max and like BM does, will populate a miner with a combo of 2 great boards and 1 'meh' one. Miner still meets specs but I've love to see a M10 with all 3 boards running 523MHz vs for example, one of mine doing 523, 512, & 435MHz... Point is they need enough top-grade chips to make the 'great' boards.

[fccs]

Canaan is always good but worthless when it comes to efficiency.  Bitmain so far this year has not been delayed more than 1 week for every single miner I have ordered.  So.. I can't really say I've had a bad experience this year, in fact bitmain has been on the ball with things if anything this year as far as im concerned.  Also 50th is nothing when it's a shit efficiency.  I could have bought in stock in hand ship same day m21s's for $1900 in August and didn't because I don't want miners that can't plug into pdu's.  Right now canaan is similar pricing..... for December.  So I wouldn't call that as anything amazing by any means.  No reason for canaan to ever be delayed because they are although one of the most reliable best miners to buy.. they are always OLD tech and never top dog in terms of efficiency.  This is coming from someone who had about 40-80 841's at one point so I love canaan but I can't deal with their efficiency of miners lately.

[philipma1957]

I have a used a1041 coming this week.

Canaan has been okay for timely ness.

But the 31-37 a1041 beta models are about 60watts at 30th setting and 65 watts at 37th setting.

The s17 pro 53th keeps giving me 2225 watts and 53-54th in a warm room. This is better then spec.

41 watts a th.  And the ability to use PayPal with six months to pay no interest.

Bitmain is clearly offering the best deal .

[fccs]

Even my t17 is way better than spec.  I got what was told 40-42th models.  Yet, I avg 43-44th at 2200 watts all day long.  My s17's in turbo mode are doing 59 60th since the firmware update as well.

[Sparow0841]

I received news from my salesman that tells me that my 8 machines are part of the MicroBT factory to their premises. I come back to you once the tracking number received.

[philipma1957]

I received news from my salesman that tells me that my 8 machines are part of the MicroBT factory to their premises. I come back to you once the tracking number received.

Thank you.  Please let us know exact delay time 3-5 weeks I guess is close.