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September 21, 2019, 07:17:42 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2019, 07:43:16 PM by witcher_sense
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What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper

Scammers Profile ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186487.0
https://web.archive.org/web/20190921190811/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186487.0


Announced by: ICO Clevebet
https://web.archive.org/web/20190921190932/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2677248


Scammers Website: http://clevebet.io/

https://web.archive.org/web/20190921191003/http://clevebet.io/


Scammers Whitepaper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GvoxTg_SRriYWIk-n9E9RnSqeM255FRV/view

https://web.archive.org/web/20190921191043/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GvoxTg_SRriYWIk-n9E9RnSqeM255FRV/view


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Domain Name: CLEVEBET.IO
Registry Domain ID: D503300000635387510-LRMS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 2019-09-20T23:27:54Z
Creation Date: 2019-03-01T15:44:31Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-03-01T15:44:31Z

  • Clevebet whitepaper is blatant copypasta from Bethereum whitepaper.
  • No links to resources used

Bethereum Whitepaper: https://www.bethereum.com/Bethereum-Whitepaper-EN.pdf?v=04
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Domain Name: BETHEREUM.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2121139118_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.regtons.com
Registrar URL: http://regtons.com
Updated Date: 2019-04-23T18:41:35Z
Creation Date: 2017-05-06T11:42:34Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-05-06T11:42:34Z

































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September 21, 2019, 08:02:35 PM
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There is another red flag that can tell us about the fraudulent nature of this project.



Clevebet team profiles on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-debort-a1b066194/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jomaz-erik-69b2349a/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ival-demmer-92a669193/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackson-hemmer-40b678190/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/do-franky-456455192/

Each profile above contains almost zero connections and looks like it was created specifically to convince
investors that the team is represented on the social network.


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Last edit: October 04, 2019, 01:16:36 AM by masulum
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I find their CEO real name is not Frank Debort but he was registered at meetup.com as Dennis B.
https://www.meetup.com/en-AU/postgresqlrussia/members/204116677/
archives: https://archive.is/XWf4y

Then, I am trying to search more information and find him at niceandeasy.com as Dennis Bogatyrev
https://www.niceandeasy.me/marathon/?source=post_page---------------------------




Updates 04/10/2019
New thread  has been created and he was changing their team members.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189769.msg52644535#msg52644535 | Archives https://archive.is/dxs7t




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October 04, 2019, 06:58:29 AM
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This is another huge red flag that confirms they provide false information for the purpose of fraud. After being caught and accused of plagiarism, they claim that they are not guilty, it is simply a failure of the people they hired. What an absurd and banal excuse, all scammers always say the same thing. Okay, let's say they hired the wrong people.  But who are these people who hired those?

The funny thing is that they completely changed the team, photos and names were changed. Can this be called trustworthy behavior? I don't think so. And I repeat, all these changes happened immediately after my accusation, before that they did not bother to check anything.

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The funny thing is that they completely changed the team, photos and names were changed. Can this be called trustworthy behavior? I don't think so. And I repeat, all these changes happened immediately after my accusation, before that they did not bother to check anything.

Yup, that is very funny, when they are saying if they already  revised their WP, they hope neg trust from you and Lafu will be removed. But, make a change of their team, this user making another mistake, maybe he was forget his team member. LOL.

That's why i say, if he on the right side, he could getting his neutral trust. Because I know, he will never get it back. we can't trust someone who starting with a lying and give our trust to him very easy.

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October 07, 2019, 10:11:24 AM
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Today, the same manager opened a new Bounty topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190677
Archive: http://archive.fo/nDFer
I checked the first page: plagiarism remained in place. And new members join this bounty, despite the fact that the manager has a red trust and an active flag. The first registered translators are those who want to translate Whitepaper plagiarism into other languages.





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<snip>

The funny thing is that they completely changed the team, photos and names were changed. Can this be called trustworthy behavior? I don't think so. And I repeat, all these changes happened immediately after my accusation, before that they did not bother to check anything.

Yup, that is very funny, when they are saying if they already  revised their WP, they hope neg trust from you and Lafu will be removed. But, make a change of their team, this user making another mistake, maybe he was forget his team member. LOL.


Many are plagiarism white books and teams to attract lots of people and they don't think in the future it's very stupid of them,

Is this done by one person or is there a scamer team?

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October 08, 2019, 09:54:03 AM
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !



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Everyone will experience mistakes the first time they work, and I acknowledge it for change. Hope you look at it positively
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !
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Please explain the newly-created linkedin profiles and who are these in your above photos?



The photos you posted don't match the profiles on your website. I don't think this is a good start for your project.
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !
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Please explain the newly-created linkedin profiles and who are these in your above photos?



The photos you posted don't match the profiles on your website. I don't think this is a good start for your project.
In our country, the use of linkedin is not common, I just created their account because it is a necessary procedure, we can provide other information such as facebook, etc. more popular  but not in the blockchain market. That is our fledgling. It is all the beginning. I hope you can sympathize with that
 
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !
--

Please explain the newly-created linkedin profiles and who are these in your above photos?



The photos you posted don't match the profiles on your website. I don't think this is a good start for your project.
The picture I posted currently has 3 people in my team working at the office. The other 2 people are on business trips. You can recognize the young Duc Long in the picture.
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As a CEO, I'm sorry for our mistakes. And today I'm here to look forward to a review from everyone.
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we can provide other information such as facebook, etc. more popular  but not in the blockchain market. That is our fledgling. It is all the beginning. I hope you can sympathize with that
That's what you would have done in the first place. It's not all about whether the social network is popular in the blockchain market or not. What people what to know is whether the people behind your team are real or fake.

Any scammer can gather a group of people, take them photos in an "office" and create brand new LinkedIn Profiles using the same pictures and just alter names... so easy.

You also already created doubt among members because of your plagiarized whitepaper, a tactic used by so many people here, why would you want people to believe you right away?

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we can provide other information such as facebook, etc. more popular  but not in the blockchain market. That is our fledgling. It is all the beginning. I hope you can sympathize with that
That's what you would have done in the first place. It's not all about whether the social network is popular in the blockchain market or not. What people what to know is whether the people behind your team are real or fake.

Any scammer can gather a group of people, take them photos in an "office" and create brand new LinkedIn Profiles using the same pictures and just alter names... so easy.

You also already created doubt among members because of your plagiarized whitepaper, a tactic used by so many people here, why would you want people to believe you right away?
I do not ask for an immediate trust. I just want you to be able to review everything. We have all the necessary documents to prove our team members. We welcome everyone who can come to check in at our office.It is an honor to us .
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October 08, 2019, 01:47:55 PM
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Again, I hope everyone can see my effort here, I will try to confirm that my project is not scam at all. It is really promising. I hope you understand and can forgive us for the mistakes of the first time working .
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October 08, 2019, 06:10:52 PM
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !
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Please explain the newly-created linkedin profiles and who are these in your above photos?

https://i.ibb.co/879vyY0/Screen-Shot-2019-10-08-at-6-07-36-PM.png

The photos you posted don't match the profiles on your website. I don't think this is a good start for your project.
They looks like real, perhaps they had not good start, however now is everything lookds like ok.

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October 08, 2019, 09:25:59 PM
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Now, guys, let's talk about this.
1. After you guys talked about the plagiarism issue, we revised the whole thing
2. We acknowledge our mistake of trying to hire representatives and as a result, they brought us a fake team. And now, we put our work team up to retain our brand. It shows that we are not worried about the issue of being told a scam. Our project is perfectly reasonable. Pay attention to the content we build. Please reconsider those. Thanks !
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Please explain the newly-created linkedin profiles and who are these in your above photos?



The photos you posted don't match the profiles on your website. I don't think this is a good start for your project.
They looks like real, perhaps they had not good start, however now is everything lookds like ok.

Have you thoroughly look at the photos he posted? I do not buy the idea of this young Duc Long in the group photo. Because his linkedin profile is totally a different person. The photo doesn't match. You have been busted this early. So I don't think this project will go that far. Besides very few gullible investors are buying in ICO phase anymore.
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October 08, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
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I decided to run the images through a well-known face detection program and compare the group photo vs. LinkedIn profile photos.
For reference, AWS matches that indicate 98%+ similarity should be considered as 100% correct.

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The only negative match that i got was with the girl.

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October 09, 2019, 12:45:06 AM
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I decided to run the images through a well-known face detection program and compare the group photo vs. LinkedIn profile photos.
For reference, AWS matches that indicate 98%+ similarity should be considered as 100% correct.

Here are the results (if anyone needs them):





The only negative match that i got was with the girl.
Thank you for your attention . As I said above, we currently have employees on long business trips, who are not in the office, sir.
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