Journey to the Mars,Elon Musk vision!

[ChrisPop]

I have a lot of respect for Elon Musk and making close deadlines is a way for auto-motivation, but I don't think 5 years is a feasible timeframe. Maybe 15-20 years, but seriously now.. living on Mars is a lot of years ahead of us and second of all where is he going to find 1 million people willing to move planets?! lol  Of course that colonization of other planets is something that needs to come in the future as there is only so much population that the Earth can support.

[btcdie]

I think it's too early for the next 5 years to go to Mars. I absolutely do not believe in Elon Musk's vision if in the next 5 years will go and occupy the planet Mars.

hard to believe elon musk, spaceX and rocket projects that are currently being made (BFR: "Big Fucking Rocket"). Elon Musk is too ambitious in his mission, as reported at the International Astronautical Congress, which brings together around 4,000 world space experts in Adelaide, Australia. logic I do not believe it will all happen next 5 years, maybe if + -20 years in the future it will happen.
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I want to know how much it costs to fly to Mars with Elon Musk. Is 5 BTC enough?   Hahaha ,, LOL 

[Spendulus]

I think it's too early for the next 5 years to go to Mars. I absolutely do not believe in Elon Musk's vision if in the next 5 years will go and occupy the planet Mars.

hard to believe elon musk, spaceX and rocket projects that are currently being made (BFR: "Big Fucking Rocket"). Elon Musk is too ambitious in his mission, as reported at the International Astronautical Congress, which brings together around 4,000 world space experts in Adelaide, Australia. logic I do not believe it will all happen next 5 years, maybe if + -20 years in the future it will happen.
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I want to know how much it costs to fly to Mars with Elon Musk. Is 5 BTC enough?   Hahaha ,, LOL 

50 million - 50 billion per person is a reasonable projection.

[tippytoes]

Musk's vision is really overwhelming sometimes. But at least he has that kind of vision where it seemed so impossible for ordinary individuals. He already studied that possibility and from his perspectives it can be done. So maybe, it really can be done. But year 2025, it is like too soon to do that. Let us see in the coming years what's gonna be the progress on this mission.

[Spendulus]

Musk's vision is really overwhelming sometimes. But at least he has that kind of vision where it seemed so impossible for ordinary individuals. He already studied that possibility and from his perspectives it can be done. So maybe, it really can be done. But year 2025, it is like too soon to do that. Let us see in the coming years what's gonna be the progress on this mission.

There are a hundred types of technology that must be developed before humans go to Mars or the Moon to stay.

Those are either being worked on or they are not. If one believes Musk vision, then give him money for rockets, those technologies will be ignored or relegated to the back of the priorities.

And Where does that get you?

We've had rockets that were perfectly capable of getting us to Mars since Apollo. The delta-V thrust to Mars is less than the Moon.

[BADecker]

Musk's vision along with thousands of other visions made by hundreds of other people, must be accomplished. Why? Because the world is running out of people and companies to keep the banking Ponzi going.

Musk will borrow a bunch of the money that he spends on the project. He will make payments on the loans. If he fails, the defaults don't really hurt the banking Ponzi, anyway.

The point is that the banking fiat debt Ponzi must be kept alive through loan payments like Musk's. If it isn't, the banks and fiat will fail. Bitcoin isn't ready, yet. So the resulting chaos from the bank Ponzi failure will destroy a lot of people and nations.

[akram143]

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His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.

Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though.

[clickerz]

Musk's vision is really overwhelming sometimes. But at least he has that kind of vision where it seemed so impossible for ordinary individuals. He already studied that possibility and from his perspectives it can be done. So maybe, it really can be done. But year 2025, it is like too soon to do that. Let us see in the coming years what's gonna be the progress on this mission.

Its 6 years from now, no it wont happen in my opinion. But for long term yes the possibility is always there. More preparation should be done, research, experiments and testing before  our scientist go full blast and 6 years is not enough.

I still hope his vision comes true in our lifetime to witness the future.

[Spendulus]

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His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.

Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though.

So he's trying to get huge amounts of government money for an impossibility.

[akram143]

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His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.

Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though.

So he's trying to get huge amounts of government money for an impossibility.

Not from the government,he wanted to take money from rich people who don't know what to do with their money and got fantasy of living in space or in other planet.

[Spendulus]

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His vision isn't impossible. But the time period in which the aim is impossible. ...

So he's lying.

Let's keep it simple.

Yes literally,but people who investing or paying for going mars are the stupid and Musk is genius though.

So he's trying to get huge amounts of government money for an impossibility.

Not from the government,he wanted to take money from rich people who don't know what to do with their money and got fantasy of living in space or in other planet.

Maybe both.

[BADecker]

The Mars project is foolish. It is designed as a distraction from something way more important.

We are people of Earth. Going to Mars means we need to protect ourselves from the harshness of space, and take "some" Earth along with us just to survive.

But how long will we survive? On Earth, in the best of natural habitats, a few of us might live for more than 100 years. Our biosphere habitats basically failed. We don't know how to live without being on Earth. Even taking some Earth along, and trying to protect ourselves from the harshness of space, isn't going to work well.

Thinkers know this. Musk knows this. Why are we being distracted from something that is way more important? The thrill of Mars is distracting us. Shouldn't we be focusing on extending life? Shouldn't we be focusing on what the spirit and soul really are, so we can figure out if there is some kind of life after death?

Mars is all a big distraction. And NASA is getting into it with their Artemis program. Why are they distracting us with something that isn't going to work? If the banking system crashes (like many financiers believe it will), we certainly won't be organized enough to produce the technology that it will take to go to Mars... and maybe even return to the moon.

[styca]

I believe that Musk is making the attempt, yes, but not on that timescale. He often says things in order to get a reaction and news coverage (although it backfired a bit with that paedo diver thing in Thailand, I think the court appearance is in December).

Musk does have vision though, and he does have talent. But a lot of his projects seem overambitious. We will see I suppose. I do think that prviate industry is slowly taking the lead on space travel, and it's probably a good bet that the first man (or woman) on Mars will be raising a corporate flag rather than a national flag. If Musk gets there first, I'll bet Bezos will be offering Prime delivery to Mars shortly afterwards

[BADecker]

I think that this makes sense. But the process is too generalized in the article. And, since most of us don't think like this, it's difficult to wrap our minds around what is really being said. Check out the links at the site, AND the process, itself.


Elon Musk Owes His Success to This Accelerated Learning Process Used by Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla

-It's easy to link Elon Musk's rapid success, ability to solve unsolvable problems, and genius-level creativity to his incredible work ethic.

-But during a one-on-one interview with TED curator Chris Anderson, Musk attributed to his genius-level creativity and success to a method of reasoning called first principles.

-First-principles thinking works like this: First, you identify and define your assumptions; then, you break down the problem into its fundamental principles; and, lastly, you create new solutions from scratch.

By the age of 46, Elon Musk has innovated and built three revolutionary multibillion-dollar companies in different fields -- Paypal (financial services), Tesla (automotive), and SpaceX (aerospace).

This list doesn't include Solar City (energy), which he helped build and acquired for $2.6 billion.

At first glance, it's easy to link his rapid success, ability to solve unsolvable problems, and genius-level creativity to his incredible work ethic.

Musk himself said that he worked 100 hours a week for over 15 years and recently scaled down to 85 hours. Rumor also has it that he doesn't even take lunch breaks, multitasking between eating, meetings, and responding to emails all at the same time.

No doubt work ethic plays an important role in unlocking your inner creative genius and becoming the best at what you do -- but there's more to this -- there are extremely hardworking people who still make little progress in life and die before sharing their best work with the world.

What, then, is this missing link for innovative creativity and accelerated success?

Just like Musk, some of the most brilliant minds of all-time -- Aristotle, Euclid, Thomas Edison, Feynman, and Nikola Tesla -- use this missing link for accelerated learning, solving difficult problems, and creating great work in their lifetime.

This missing link has little to do with how hard they work. It has everything to do with how they think.

Let's talk about how you can use this genius problem solving method.

First-principles thinking

During a one-on-one interview with TED curator Chris Anderson, Musk revealed this missing link, which he attributes to his genius-level creativity and success. It's called reasoning from first principles.

Musk: Well, I do think there's a good framework for thinking. It is physics. You know, the sort of first-principles reasoning. Generally, I think there are -- what I mean by that is, boil things down to their fundamental truths and reason up from there, as opposed to reasoning by analogy.

Through most of our life, we get through life by reasoning by analogy, which essentially means copying what other people do with slight variations.

First-principles thinking is basically the practice of actively questioning every assumption you think you know about a given problem or scenario, and then creating new knowledge and solutions from scratch. Almost like a newborn baby.

On the flip side, reasoning by analogy is building knowledge and solving problems based on prior assumptions, beliefs, and widely held "best practices" approved by majority of people.

[senne]

The private company Spacex is getting ready to move the passengers from Earth to Moon by the year 2025 and also he mentioned that they will move 1 Million people to Mars and create the first civilization of Mars along with himself.

Do you believe this will become possible in the next five year? Or just a sci-fiction story!

It wont be really possible in next 5 years but I see that happening in maybe future when Musk's kid is leading the command. Even pioneers like Virgin group with their Virgin galactic and Bezoz's vision to Mars shows that we indeed will colonize to Mars sometime in future. As it is, Mars is considered as twin sister of Earth and holds evidence of life and supportive environment.

[BADecker]

The private company Spacex is getting ready to move the passengers from Earth to Moon by the year 2025 and also he mentioned that they will move 1 Million people to Mars and create the first civilization of Mars along with himself.

Do you believe this will become possible in the next five year? Or just a sci-fiction story!

It wont be really possible in next 5 years but I see that happening in maybe future when Musk's kid is leading the command. Even pioneers like Virgin group with their Virgin galactic and Bezoz's vision to Mars shows that we indeed will colonize to Mars sometime in future. As it is, Mars is considered as twin sister of Earth and holds evidence of life and supportive environment.

World financial collapse is near enough that it will never happen.

[BADecker]

With a good plan, anyone can start doing this by getting government grants.


"Cash Strapped" Elon Musk Is Buying Up Entire Neighborhoods In Los Angeles

Believe it or not, but these "financial hardships" haven't stopped Musk from buying out entire neighborhoods in Los Angeles, according to the Wall Street Journal, which took a look into the CEO's property portfolio.

Over the last seven years, Musk has bought up six houses on two different streets in the "lower" and "mid" areas of the Bel-Air neighborhood of Los Angeles. If he hasn't bought them under his own name, he has bought them with LLCs that have addresses tied to Musk companies.

When those purchases are combined with the purchase of a 100 year old estate in Northern California, Musk has spent about $100 million on seven properties.

In 2012, Musk bought a 20,248 sq. foot white stucco Colonial mansion and LLCs tied to him own two other houses on the same street, including a ranch once owned by Gene Wilder. That ranch was then turned into a private school for Musk's five sons, according to a Beijing TV interview.

[Spendulus]

The private company Spacex is getting ready to move the passengers from Earth to Moon by the year 2025 and also he mentioned that they will move 1 Million people to Mars and create the first civilization of Mars along with himself.

Do you believe this will become possible in the next five year? Or just a sci-fiction story!

It wont be really possible in next 5 years but I see that happening in maybe future when Musk's kid is leading the command. Even pioneers like Virgin group with their Virgin galactic and Bezoz's vision to Mars shows that we indeed will colonize to Mars sometime in future. As it is, Mars is considered as twin sister of Earth and holds evidence of life and supportive environment.

Really? Cold enough to keep Co2 in snow form, and it's our twin sister?

Evidence of life? Nope.

Supportive environment? Peroxides in the dirt would kill most any living thing.

Try again...

[BADecker]

^^^ Way back, before they sent probes to Mars or Venus, Venus was considered to be our twin. The only reason was that Venus is only a little smaller than Earth. The shininess of Venus (the morning star) was thought to be a watery world, with the sun reflecting off the water. Mars was always known to be far less habitable than Venus... until they went to both and found that both are far from habitable.

[Vispilio]

Really? Cold enough to keep Co2 in snow form, and it's our twin sister?

Evidence of life? Nope.

Supportive environment? Peroxides in the dirt would kill most any living thing.

Try again...

Still Mars is considered the most likely candidate with current human technology,
the other ones being one of the moons of Jupiter and one of Saturn...

Overpopulation is becoming an inevitable and the predominant political problem on Earth. Much of what was considered a natural part of every day life (even simple things like grass fed meat, owning a piece of land, etc.) for our ancestors have already become great luxuries due to an exponentially increasing population and scarcity of limited resources here...

So it's either Total World War 3 on Earth, or space colonization, and possibly both...