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September 26, 2019, 11:20:13 AM |
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He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.
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The Cryptovator
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September 26, 2019, 11:44:32 AM Last edit: September 26, 2019, 12:32:37 PM by Coolcryptovator |
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Tagged,He wants to buy Red Trust accounts. What is his purpose? What to do with these accounts?
There would be two reason; 1. Join spam (signature) campaign of shit ICO or join giveaway. 2. Trade/sells sMerits with alts or others. Otherwise I don't see any other reason. Thanks for bring it up. Seems "Clovier" got 20 merit from single user. Merit sender supercops is red trusted. Here you can see details.Edit; ... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust. I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example.
Possibly they might use for fake conversation and fake reviews.
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September 26, 2019, 12:18:58 PM |
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... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust. I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example.
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September 26, 2019, 02:03:19 PM |
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What is his purpose? I figured I'd just ask on Telegram, and the answer is: "For campaign". That doesn't tell me anything ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ... Or start bumping service with those high ranked accounts, if they have merit then the bumping power will be higher and there you go, nobody cares that those accounts are with red trust. I was suspecting that this might happen and here we have a fresh example. The bumping power doesn't depend on rank, only on Activity and Merit earned in the past year. If he wants Merit or sMerit, I'd expect that to be specified. I kinda expect the accounts to be used to shill for a project, but who's going to believe a thread that has many higher ranked accounts with red trust posting in it?
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September 26, 2019, 02:28:42 PM |
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He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.
Yep, that's entirely possible. I usually don't think about the merit situation when I'm listing all the devious things one can do with a bought account. I figured I'd just ask on Telegram, and the answer is: "For campaign". That doesn't tell me anything ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It's probably not true anyway. There aren't many signature campaigns left, and generally you can't participate in one if you've got a DT negative on your trust page. It's possible that a buyer could get the neg(s) removed, but that's a long shot. Not sure about what the typical rules of altcoin-paying bounties are, but I think they pretty much accept anyone, including red-trusted accounts. Effing lovely. At least merit abuse is generally self-limiting, and this dude is probably paying a lot for those merits.
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September 26, 2019, 04:01:21 PM |
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He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.
It looks like this is exactly what he wants to do with those accounts. He received 20 merits from supercops who has been tagged for being an accounts seller/buyer. supercops woke up on 5/1/2019 and on the same day he sent 20 merits to Clovier, 10 to muricide, 10 to NauticsS and 10 to Sushunt. I am not sure if this proves anything, but it looks shady to me.
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September 26, 2019, 07:09:56 PM |
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He probably wanted to milk the hell out of the smerits of those red trust accounts to rank up his alts.
It looks like this is exactly what he wants to do with those accounts. He received 20 merits from supercops who has been tagged for being an accounts seller/buyer. supercops woke up on 5/1/2019 and on the same day he sent 20 merits to Clovier, 10 to muricide, 10 to NauticsS and 10 to Sushunt. I am not sure if this proves anything, but it looks shady to me. The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process. Because there is really no reason why you want to buy a red tagged account aside from spamming/spreading trash in the forum or to do a bumping service like what others have said. The smerits left with those accounts will of course come as a consolation for them and I don't think that is his main priority for this transaction.
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khaled0111
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September 26, 2019, 09:29:20 PM |
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The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.
do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs! Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why.
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September 26, 2019, 09:40:46 PM |
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Doesn't YoBit sig campaign accept red trust accounts?
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September 26, 2019, 09:46:56 PM |
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Doesn't YoBit sig campaign accept red trust accounts?
Officially - no: https://yobit.net/en/signature/details/Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed. But they have paid red-trusted users in the past and with the new flag system I doubt they even bothered to update whatever bot they use to count the posts.
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September 26, 2019, 11:45:12 PM |
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The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.
do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs! Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why. Right, so instead of buying merits, it's much easier for those abusers to just get and buy those red trust accounts. They have total control over it recycle the merits between their alts and will try to avoid detection by distributing it slowly. The key here is that they have control, they can even start to sell those smerits as well. Time to hunt them down and piece the puzzle together.
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September 27, 2019, 06:56:28 AM |
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The two transactions might not be connected at all. The one where he received 20 merits from supercop might be his first attempt to buy smerits but if he wants to milk the smerits out from this sr. member+ accounts why not just buy the smerits out of it and not buy the red tagged sr. member accounts in the process.
do you know how much buying a Sr.member account or + costs, how much buying merits costs! Buying a red trusted account with 50 sMerits is far less cheaper than buying 50 merits and I assume you know why. Right, so instead of buying merits, it's much easier for those abusers to just get and buy those red trust accounts. They have total control over it recycle the merits between their alts and will try to avoid detection by distributing it slowly. The key here is that they have control, they can even start to sell those smerits as well. Time to hunt them down and piece the puzzle together. I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. Merit seller gig :- https://www.fiverr.com/crypto_ico_/supply-merits-for-your-bitcointalk-and-member-rank-accounts?ref_ctx_id=19177339-374c-4014-8704-1fd7e8dfad3c
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JeromeTash
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September 27, 2019, 08:43:26 AM Last edit: May 14, 2023, 04:38:27 PM by JeromeTash |
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I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F05%2F14%2Fblob762511b0772724d3.png&t=665&c=mzZwMahzzNGraQ) Member account = $85 10 Merits only = $150
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khaled0111
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September 27, 2019, 09:58:32 AM |
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I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity. ... Member account = $85 10 Merits only = $150
Buying accounts is cheaper because it is more risky. It is easier to detect bought accounts. Also the original owner can get the account back by claiming that it was hacked whilst sent merits can't be reverted. Also, it is hard to prove that someone bought merits.
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September 27, 2019, 10:23:43 AM |
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I am quite intrigued how buying Merits is even more expensive than buying an account itself which already had activity. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtJHk5cM.png&t=665&c=Arrg67kK02mfUg) Member account = $85 10 Merits only = $150 Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.
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The Cryptovator
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September 27, 2019, 11:32:01 AM |
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Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.
No, he is serious about selling merits or account. Because this is not auto buy link, its through fiverr. And no one will able to scam you there. There is if you not accept delivery of product then seller will not get his payment there. So if seller not provide you account or merit then buyer will not accept delivery. If incase there is arguments then fiverr will handle it manually. Then they will decide what should do with fund. On the other hand even after delivery you could dispute fund if product is corrupted, obviously there is timeframe (not sure how many dyas). And all process will done manually when seller and buyer not convinced.
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September 27, 2019, 12:24:12 PM |
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Maybe he is not serious about selling merits and accounts at all. Remember he is selling through auto-buy links so you never know for sure if he will scam you or he will actually give you.
No, he is serious about selling merits or account. Because this is not auto buy link, its through fiverr. And no one will able to scam you there. There is if you not accept delivery of product then seller will not get his payment there. So if seller not provide you account or merit then buyer will not accept delivery. If incase there is arguments then fiverr will handle it manually. Then they will decide what should do with fund. On the other hand even after delivery you could dispute fund if product is corrupted, obviously there is timeframe (not sure how many dyas). And all process will done manually when seller and buyer not convinced. Its just like an on-site escrow. So, yes it could be genuine too.
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LoyceV
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September 27, 2019, 01:10:04 PM |
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I saw a gig on the fiverr with Merit sell. Seeking $15 for each merit, which is a very expensive. That means it will cost $150 to build a member account. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) It also means I gave away over $90,000 worth of sMerit ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) That just means the buyers really can't create any decent post, I don't have high requirements for new users to send them Merit. All I want to see is someone who doesn't look like a spammer. I love how spammers just can't make one good post ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Wouldn't it be a better business to sell decent posts? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) That gives the risk of plagiarism and thus a ban for the buyer, so it's risky business too.
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