Question About Item Listings in Goods

[Judge-Dredd]

Are tasers a prohibited item?

They would be sold only to buyers that live in a jurisdiction where they're legal. It was recommended I post this question here instead of the goods board.

Thanks in advance for any info!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Good to see the new topic here. It was me who advised you in the Goods section to move the topic here. Anyway, as I said in the other post, in my opinion tasers should be a prohibited item. I think one needs a license before buying such items.

[Judge-Dredd]

Good to see the new topic here. It was me who advised you in the Goods section to move the topic here. Anyway, as I said in the other post, in my opinion tasers should be a prohibited item. I think one needs a license before buying such items.

Thanks again for pointing me here. Perhaps I'll get the answer I need. It's really not a big deal if it's a no. Just trying to ditch them since all they're doing now is collecting dust. I guess it was stupid of me to end up with 20+ tasers in the first place.

If it's prohibited life goes on  

Edit: I'm sure this has been addressed at some point in the history of this forum if I dig enough..

[Upgrade00]

I highly doubt there would be an official stance on the matter, the moderators would have to use their own discretion to decide whether or not to permit it.
And both parties involved in the sale would also have to show their license and prove they are from a jurisdiction that permits it's sale.

[Judge-Dredd]

I highly doubt there would be an official stance on the matter, the moderators would have to use their own discretion to decide whether or not to permit it.
And both parties involved in the sale would also have to show their license and prove they are from a jurisdiction that permits it's sale.

When you phrase it that way it probably isn't worth it. While they are legal where I live there is no license required, so I'd have no proof of that which is a bit of a double edged sword in this case.

Maybe I'll search elsewhere and sell them in bulk to one someone who meets the qualifications.

On that note is there an actual list of prohibited items listed somewhere on the forum or is it more of an apply-common-sense situation?

[TECSHARE]

Theymos has made his position clear in the past. As long as items being sold are legal in the buyer and the seller's jurisdiction, he will not interfere. There may be a few small exceptions for liability sake of meeting the laws of the jurisdiction of The United States where the forum is (kind of) based, but this is not one of them. Tasers are widely available in the US to anyone over 18 in most states.

[OgNasty]

I've seen users sell guns here in the past.  Tasers should be fine so long as the buyer and seller are both obeying local laws with the sale/purchase. 

[Judge-Dredd]

@TECSHARE
@OgNasty

Thanks for the input on this. All good information. I'll round 'em all up, get some good pictures, and go from there with it.

I wouldn't try a gun on here myself. Seems like you'd be asking for trouble doing that. To each his own though    definitely support the freedom to do whatever the hell you want with your own property.

[eddie13]

And both parties involved in the sale would also have to show their license and prove they are from a jurisdiction that permits it's sale.

Prove it to who? A mod? I don't think so..

Listen to TECSHARE and OgNasty.. I think you're fine..

in my opinion tasers should be a prohibited item.

Why would you want tasers prohibited?

[TECSHARE]

@TECSHARE
@OgNasty

Thanks for the input on this. All good information. I'll round 'em all up, get some good pictures, and go from there with it.

I wouldn't try a gun on here myself. Seems like you'd be asking for trouble doing that. To each his own though    definitely support the freedom to do whatever the hell you want with your own property.

Every gun seller I have seen on this forum is obeying both state and federal laws requiring firearms be transferred to a federally licensed gun dealer per regulatory requirements. There is no reason they would be inviting trouble because they accept Bitcoin as payment as long as the law is being followed. I should add too, I have seen tasers for sale here in the past on multiple occasions, and there were no issues.

[Judge-Dredd]

@TECSHARE
@OgNasty

Thanks for the input on this. All good information. I'll round 'em all up, get some good pictures, and go from there with it.

I wouldn't try a gun on here myself. Seems like you'd be asking for trouble doing that. To each his own though   definitely support the freedom to do whatever the hell you want with your own property.

Every gun seller I have seen on this forum is obeying both state and federal laws requiring firearms be transferred to a federally licensed gun dealer per regulatory requirements. There is no reason they would be inviting trouble because they accept Bitcoin as payment as long as the law is being followed. I should add too, I have seen tasers for sale here in the past on multiple occasions, and there were no issues.

It makes sense.. as far as freedom and freedom of speech goes this is still a significantly better alternative to many major websites like ZuccBook. Just wanted to clarify some of those rules before I post something that gets me a ban.

I'm pretty sure you can't even list guns on ZuccBook. Same way Google no longer shows firearms in search results.

Edit - google shopping I should say. Who uses it anyway

[Judge-Dredd]

And both parties involved in the sale would also have to show their license and prove they are from a jurisdiction that permits it's sale.

Prove it to who? A mod? I don't think so..

Listen to TECSHARE and OgNasty.. I think you're fine..

in my opinion tasers should be a prohibited item.

Why would you want tasers prohibited?

I'll take the words of wisdom. Thank you. Have a bunch of expandable batons and machetes to unload too. You know, normal human goods  oh and lifestraws. Maybe I'll stick it in one large sale post.

[Pmalek]

What are we trying to create here, a Silk Road type of marketplace! Fireams and marijuana, how about prostitution? It is legal in Germany and Austria so can we advertise them here as well and sell the services only to jurisdictions where it's allowed?  

No offense to OP but I don't think this is the right place for such items even if they are allowed in certain jurisdictions. Just my personal opinion. It can draw in the wrong kind of prying eyes.

[TECSHARE]

What are we trying to create here, a Silk Road type of marketplace! Fireams and marijuana, how about prostitution? It is legal in Germany and Austria so can we advertise them here as well and sell the services only to jurisdictions where it's allowed?  

No offense to OP but I don't think this is the right place for such items even if they are allowed in certain jurisdictions. Just my personal opinion. It can draw in the wrong kind of prying eyes.

That is the beauty of Bitcoin. No one has to give a fuck about your opinion. I assure you "the wrong kind of prying eyes" have plenty of other more interesting stuff to look at around here.

[Pmalek]

No one has to give a fuck about your opinion.

You are absolutely right. Even though we might have different opinions on that particular subject I think we can both agree we wouldn't want to see a 'This Domain Has Been Seized' notification with an FBI logo in the background.

I assure you "the wrong kind of prying eyes" have plenty of other more interesting stuff to look at around here.

Not sure if they wouldn't be interested in weapons and marijuana sellers/buyers as well and the origin of them.

[Judge-Dredd]

No one has to give a fuck about your opinion.

You are absolutely right. Even though we might have different opinions on that particular subject I think we can both agree we wouldn't want to see a 'This Domain Has Been Seized' notification with an FBI logo in the background.

I assure you "the wrong kind of prying eyes" have plenty of other more interesting stuff to look at around here.

Not sure if they wouldn't be interested in weapons and marijuana sellers/buyers as well and the origin of them.

Whoa nobody said anything about selling banned substances. My tasers are for tobacco use only   

I'm going to have to go with TECSHARE on this one. The prying eyes are already here and I'd assume have much bigger fish to fry. I don't have anything for sale that would "Ross" this forum.

I did notice someone claiming to be selling CVVs the other day. That's going to draw some scrutiny. Post was reported.

[TECSHARE]

No one has to give a fuck about your opinion.

You are absolutely right. Even though we might have different opinions on that particular subject I think we can both agree we wouldn't want to see a 'This Domain Has Been Seized' notification with an FBI logo in the background.

I assure you "the wrong kind of prying eyes" have plenty of other more interesting stuff to look at around here.

Not sure if they wouldn't be interested in weapons and marijuana sellers/buyers as well and the origin of them.

If that was a possibility I assure you Theymos would be all over it. I don't know where you are from, but it is obviously not the US. Here anyone over 18 can buy tazers in a gas station with a drivers license (just to check age) in most states. Americans can legally own firearms that are capable of exploding an engine block from 2 miles away. I assure you tazers are not even a blip on the LEO's radar.

[SaltySpitoon]

What are we trying to create here, a Silk Road type of marketplace! Fireams and marijuana, how about prostitution? It is legal in Germany and Austria so can we advertise them here as well and sell the services only to jurisdictions where it's allowed?  

No offense to OP but I don't think this is the right place for such items even if they are allowed in certain jurisdictions. Just my personal opinion. It can draw in the wrong kind of prying eyes.

That kind of falls under the category of some of the exceptions to the rules regarding buying/selling whatever is legal in your jurisdiction. Someone had asked a while ago about whether sexually explicit content was allowable to be sold between people of their country, where the age barrier was below the common 18 year mark. That one had to be turned down because it could potentially have repercussions. I've seen marijuana seeds for sale here before, but again I believe the actual grown product isn't allowed for similar reasons.

You can buy tasers on Amazon, you are good to go.

*edit*
Baby walkers are illegal in Canada for example, it would be strange to have to ban all items that may or may not be allowed in each country. Don't do anything to get yourself in trouble, and the forum doesn't care (with those few exceptions above).

[Pmalek]

My tasers are for tobacco use only   

Wait! Are we talking about the same thing here? Tasers aka stun guns?



What are tasers for tobacco?

Americans can legally own firearms that are capable of exploding an engine block from 2 miles away.

I know, I am well aware of that...

[TECSHARE]

My tasers are for tobacco use only  

Wait! Are we talking about the same thing here? Tasers aka stun guns?

...

What are tasers for tobacco?

In the USA there are many state and local level ordinances banning the sale of marijuana pipes and other paraphernalia. Businesses get around these restrictions by selling these items "for tobacco use only", as a result it has kind of turned into a joke over time. Similarly they get away with selling things like crack pipes in some areas by including a tiny plastic rose in a glass tube and pretending people are buying it for the fake flower and the tube is just packaging.