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A quote from my correspondence with one of their team.

"The salaryof all team members will be tied to the ICO rounds of our ecosystem. It means that the monthly fee of each team member (including you and me) will be fixed in euros, but payment will be made only in EurBit stabletokens. And in order to pay for our work, they first must be released.They can only be released in ICO rounds. Such rounds will be held on average once a month. Surely preparing for the first and the second round will take more time. But then, with each new round, our team will act more and more orderly, harmoniously and quickly. We will put the ICO rounds on the conveyor and we will make them on a regular. Gradually we'll go out to one round every 4 weeks, and then maybe once every 3 weeks. There are 2 required conditions: 1) The project founder receives his fee the last. It means that he will not receive a cent until all the other team members will have received their full salary. 2) Tokens, earned by the project, are spent primarily on team salaries, and only then on marketing and other expenses. What salary per month do you want to receive if it is tied to the euro?"

Note to all potential applicants, working for tokens in any part-time to full-time capacity is complete lunacy. STOP WORKING FOR TOKENS AND TRASH PROJECTS WILL STOP APPEARING.
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September 29, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
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Forget working for tokens.

Any organization that discriminates against immigrants is acrimoniously shunned and discarded like the filthy pile of garbage that it is. This is the 21st century and philologists can come any corner of the world and neither their ethnicity nor their ancestry can or should be the determining factor when it comes to the eligibility of employment for such a person.

I am surprised that people even would tolerate such an idea in this day and age.


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September 30, 2019, 11:24:23 AM
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Note to all potential applicants, working for tokens in any part-time to full-time capacity is complete lunacy. STOP WORKING FOR TOKENS AND TRASH PROJECTS WILL STOP APPEARING.
What specific sentences from the WP or from this video  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KyXTGcGai7f46_gpjLcV1bQXEhkLaW4J/view   do tell you that this is a “TRASH PROJECT”? Or do you slander, without even bothering to read the WP?
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September 30, 2019, 11:27:05 AM
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Forget working for tokens.
Yes, unfortunately, the vast majority of tokens are very bad. Therefore, we would not work for bad tokens ourselves, and we would not advise them to anyone. But it does not apply to the EurBit token. It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?
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But it does not apply to the EurBit token. It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?

This is just an assumption, without any supporting evidence. Any sane person would prefer to accept BTC or fiat instead of your token simply because your token is not on the market yet, and therefore there is no guarantee they can liquidate it. You can't promise people to pay with something that will worth $1000 in the next few months when you hire them to do a full-time job.
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September 30, 2019, 12:23:13 PM
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Forget working for tokens.
Yes, unfortunately, the vast majority of tokens are very bad. Therefore, we would not work for bad tokens ourselves, and we would not advise them to anyone. But it does not apply to the EurBit token...

Why not? let me try to rephrase this so it gets through to your thick skull.

YourShit token is not better than BTC or other Tokens. It is (probably) worse.

Please, refrain from defending yourself further. The moment you said this :
It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?
.. is the exact moment you became a laughing stock for the rest of humanity. Goodbye.


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September 30, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
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Forget working for tokens.
Yes, unfortunately, the vast majority of tokens are very bad. Therefore, we would not work for bad tokens ourselves, and we would not advise them to anyone. But it does not apply to the EurBit token. It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?

I wonder how does the eurobit became more better than bitcoin and fiat? Do you have any strong support on this claim? People is not interested on Eurbit payments and why your company make it a BTC or cash payment? Do you have funds? Or our of it? Since if you don't have funds then you cannot support the growth of your coin and by that the efforts of the one who works with you will became worthless and that will be a bullshit.

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September 30, 2019, 02:32:42 PM
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Forget working for tokens.
Yes, unfortunately, the vast majority of tokens are very bad. Therefore, we would not work for bad tokens ourselves, and we would not advise them to anyone. But it does not apply to the EurBit token...

Why not? let me try to rephrase this so it gets through to your thick skull.

YourShit token is not better than BTC or other Tokens. It is (probably) worse.

Please, refrain from defending yourself further. The moment you said this :
It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?
.. is the exact moment you became a laughing stock for the rest of humanity. Goodbye.
Only very stupid people or very unprofessional ones can publicly evaluate projects and tokens without even reading their WP. Which of these two groups do you belong to?
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September 30, 2019, 02:35:42 PM
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But it does not apply to the EurBit token. It is better than both the bitcoin and the dollar. It is better than any fiat and crypto currency. So why not to work for the best money in the world?

This is just an assumption, without any supporting evidence. Any sane person would prefer to accept BTC or fiat instead of your token simply because your token is not on the market yet, and therefore there is no guarantee they can liquidate it. You can't promise people to pay with something that will worth $1000 in the next few months when you hire them to do a full-time job.
First you should read the WP of the EurBit ecosystem and then all doubts about the reliability and value of our token will immediately disappear. And if after reading some questions will remain, I will be glad to answer them. The main thing is to hurry up, otherwise this position in our team will be taken by someone else.
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September 30, 2019, 03:50:10 PM
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Only very stupid people or very unprofessional ones can publicly evaluate projects and tokens without even reading their WP. Which of these two groups do you belong to?
But that does not mean that your token is going to be better than Bitcoin. Saying so only makes your credibility not even zero but to the negative side of the number line. You are in a bitcoin forum and the biggest one of them in the universe. Show some respect to the members who are pro-bitcoin.

Even if you dont know how to show respect, the way to post and the low level of professionalism that is evident makes your project a very shady one.

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September 30, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
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Only very stupid people or very unprofessional ones can publicly evaluate projects and tokens without even reading their WP. Which of these two groups do you belong to?


Only very stupid people or very unprofessional ones can publicly evaluate projects and tokens based on just their WP. Which of these two groups do you belong to?

I can create my own token and create a WP which says I will create a new planet out of the debris around Ceres.. does not mean that there's a shred of evidence to it..


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September 30, 2019, 04:52:58 PM
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OP, as you said "the monthly fee of each team member (including you and me) will be fixed in euros, but payment will be made only in EurBit stabletokens", why don't you pay with EUR instead? Maybe you are not the owner of this token, and you have been fooled.

I will tell you why they don't pay you and everyone else with EUR: Because they do not have the EUR, only EURbittokens. And as they can just create tokens out of nowhere, nobody can be sure if 1 token = 1 EUR after the release.
The most probable outcome of this project (statistically, as we have seen the past ICO carnage)  is that 1000 tokens = 0 EUR.

So, unless you pay people with real money (BTC or FIAT), you will only hire amateurs. Wanna pay with tokens? There must be some warranties, like , at least, big names involved (like facebook company, Vitalik Buterin, or something like that).

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September 30, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
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Only very stupid people or very unprofessional ones can publicly evaluate projects and tokens without even reading their WP. Which of these two groups do you belong to?
But that does not mean that your token is going to be better than Bitcoin. Saying so only makes your credibility not even zero but to the negative side of the number line. You are in a bitcoin forum and the biggest one of them in the universe. Show some respect to the members who are pro-bitcoin.

Even if you dont know how to show respect, the way to post and the low level of professionalism that is evident makes your project a very shady one.
The EurBit token is a bitcoin with minimal volatility, whose price never falls and it is always at its maximum. What is better in your opinion: the Bitcoin, that dangles in all directions like a weather vane in the wind, or the EurBit token with minimal volatility, which never falls and it is always at its maximum?  You think that bitcoin is better, I believe that EurBit. Only time will show which of us is right. It is pointless to argue about it, especially with a such person, who have not read our WP.
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September 30, 2019, 06:56:32 PM
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OP, as you said "the monthly fee of each team member (including you and me) will be fixed in euros, but payment will be made only in EurBit stabletokens", why don't you pay with EUR instead? Maybe you are not the owner of this token, and you have been fooled.

I will tell you why they don't pay you and everyone else with EUR: Because they do not have the EUR, only EURbittokens. And as they can just create tokens out of nowhere, nobody can be sure if 1 token = 1 EUR after the release.
The most probable outcome of this project (statistically, as we have seen the past ICO carnage)  is that 1000 tokens = 0 EUR.

So, unless you pay people with real money (BTC or FIAT), you will only hire amateurs. Wanna pay with tokens? There must be some warranties, like , at least, big names involved (like facebook company, Vitalik Buterin, or something like that).
1) If a team of a project creates money and does not want to receive a salary in their own money, this means that the team itself does not believe in its ideas, does not believe in the prospects of its project. So this team has no moral right to offer their money to other people. Money that your own team does not believe in - does not need to be created. The EurBit team believes in its revolutionary ideas, knows for sure that huge success awaits us, knows for sure that getting paid in our tokens is better than getting paid in euros, dollars or bitcoins. I understand that it sounds like a fantasy, and I also thought so, until I read the WP of this project. After some time, the whole world will be convinced in practice that it is true. We do not need people for one-time cooperation, who do not care about the project. We need people who read our ideas in the WP, see the enormous potential of our project and want to become a part of our team.
2) They cannot create their own tokens in any quantities. The issue of tokens directly depends on the number of bitcoins and ethereum of investors participating in the token sale rounds.
3)1 token is not equal to 1 euro. This token is tied to bitcoin, and not to the euro.
4) Vitalik Buterin and Satoshi Nakamoto also weren't big and famous names when they started their projects.
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October 01, 2019, 07:34:07 PM
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Reading through, I saw the skepticism that surrounds payment in your proposed token and and at the same time, saw how frantically you trying to defend the position but really those who express the fears and the concerns are valid because quite a number of people have worked for tokens either the project eventually did not launch, or the token didn't worth anything at all. It means the individual has just worked full-time for nothing.

Way out is to propose a meet at the middle for a part payment in btc and a part payment in the token. This would give a guarantee to whoever is indicating an interest to be sure that there is certainty on ground at the moment. Consider that option and maybe you have a pool of interested people to pick from.
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Reading through, I saw the skepticism that surrounds payment in your proposed token and and at the same time, saw how frantically you trying to defend the position but really those who express the fears and the concerns are valid because quite a number of people have worked for tokens either the project eventually did not launch, or the token didn't worth anything at all. It means the individual has just worked full-time for nothing.

Way out is to propose a meet at the middle for a part payment in btc and a part payment in the token. This would give a guarantee to whoever is indicating an interest to be sure that there is certainty on ground at the moment. Consider that option and maybe you have a pool of interested people to pick from.
I understand the concerns of all people who do not want to work for shit tokens. Moreover, I fully support them, because I would not work for such tokens myself. But on the other hand, you need to understand that tokens are different.
Yes, 95% of them are outright rubbish. Either they have already died, or they will die in the next year or two. But besides garbage, diamonds are occasionally found among tokens.

Our project solves dozens of the most important problems of crypto investors. The problem of volatility is among them. And we solve it much better than the classic stabletokens (tied 1:1 to fiat currencies) do it. Our token is tied to bitcoin, but unlike it, it has almost no volatility. And that residual volatility is pleasant for the investor - our token cannot fall, but it can grow.This is the ideal volatility for all manufacturers, sellers and buyers of any goods and services from around the world. We do not cooperate with any state in the world. We do not submit to any public authority of any country. We have the increased anonymity. Our ecosystem has a built-in protection for crypto investors and their investments not only from falling token prices, but also from scam and dead projects. We will remove the tokens that you don’t like from the market, because one of the ideas of our ecosystem is the use by thousands of projects entering the ICO of one common top token (ours), instead of thousands of their own little shit tokens. I will not list other problems that the EurBit project solves; they can be found in the WP. If someone still does not understand, so we are creating a new global financial system. We are making a new state-independent crypto Fed.

So the fact is that our team needs people who are able to consider our diamond token in a large pile of shit tokens. If you are able to do this, then you are welcome to our team. And if someone does not see this or even does not want to consider, then we do not need such people in our team at all, and not only for bitcoins or euros, but also for free.
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October 05, 2019, 06:34:47 PM
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Reading through, I saw the skepticism that surrounds payment in your proposed token and and at the same time, saw how frantically you trying to defend the position but really those who express the fears and the concerns are valid because quite a number of people have worked for tokens either the project eventually did not launch, or the token didn't worth anything at all. It means the individual has just worked full-time for nothing.

Way out is to propose a meet at the middle for a part payment in btc and a part payment in the token. This would give a guarantee to whoever is indicating an interest to be sure that there is certainty on ground at the moment. Consider that option and maybe you have a pool of interested people to pick from.
We have never told someone that we represented a big business.  We are ordinary people, most of us are small businesses representatives.  In general, our project is officially non-profit (in order to protect us from public authorities of any countries). But we came up with money that is better than the Bitcoin, the dollar, and any other money in its characteristics. And we will issue it. We know many ways how to make good money on it for the whole team. How do you think the Fed creators have made good money on this?  (and continue to earn them) And we will make a new crypto Fed and a new global financial system.  So all the people who dare to join our team at the very beginning will earn in the end much more than ordinary translators. It depends on the question of human ambitions and desires. Does he want to be an ordinary translator for the whole life and receive the usual amount of money for the translator or to climb the career ladder much higher and start earning much more? Does he want to stay a "noname" for the rest of his life or want to go down in history as a member of the team of creators of the new global financial system?  Everyone answers this question for himself.
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Answers to the most popular questions from candidates for our team...

All team members have families and everyone needs to feed them. None of the team members are going to work for free, you are not the only one. There will be no problems with the exchange of our stable tokens. Firstly, during the first round of the token sale of our ecosystem, IEO will take place. Which means that listing on the external exchange will immediately take place and you will immediately have the opportunity to exchange our tokens at the stock exchange according to the speculative rate to everything you want.  Secondly, the second joined to the ecosystem project will be our internal ecosystem exchanger, with the help of which it will be possible to exchange our tokens for any fiat currencies of any country and the most popular cryptocurrencies at the internal ecosystem rate. Therefore, if it will be more profitable for you to change tokens according to the external exchange rate - change according to the external one, if it will be more profitable to change them according to the internal exchange rate - change according to the internal one. There are no problems with the exchange. And then all sorts of shops will join the ecosystem, then it will not be necessary to change, because anything will be able to be bought for our tokens at the internal rate.
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Nobody hires you anywhere. The EurBit project is a completely non-profit one. We are looking for team members for our nonprofit project. And as members of the nonprofit project team, we will not officially earn anything. But we know many ways how to make good money on developing the ecosystem of our project. A long line of commercial projects has already been lined up. They consider our idea very cool and want to become part of our token ecosystem. All of them need to conduct their tokensales, and we will help them as a team of bounty translators to translate their sites, White Papers and other content. And we will also help these commercial projects as managers to localize their business in their countries. We will not be listed in these commercial projects, but we will earn money on them. This is a whole endless conveyor for conducting tokensales, into which we will all be integrated. We know other options for making money on the development of this ecosystem. Therefore, we do not invite you to work for some employer as an employee. We invite you as an individual entrepreneur to a team of other individual entrepreneurs to earn money together around this very cool idea.
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