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September 29, 2019, 07:44:03 PM
Last edit: October 02, 2019, 09:52:01 AM by ideas500k.com
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INTRO
0x60 is a decentralized platform powered by smart contracts on the Ethereum blockchain.

0x60 is intended as a potential additional revenue stream for blockchain enthusiasts and for crypto
startups to help them gain more exposure.

It is essentially an incentivized advertising platform and, as far as we know, the first of its kind.

WHAT'S COOL
Earn tokens by commenting on the topic

Earn enough tokens to change the topic

Each topic has a minimum of 60 minutes of air-time

WHITEPAPER
https://0x60.app/0x60-Whitepaper.pdf

WHAT'S UP
We are currently looking or Beta testers who can test the system and comment on improvement and report bugs.

HOW TO POST A COMMENT
1. Download MetaMask - Chrome - FireFox or simply Google: MetaMask or check your app store

2. Choose ''Ropsten Test Network'' in your MetaMask Network settings. This is the test network we are using before we are getting on the ETH mainnet.

3. Go to https://0x60.app/

4. Click on: ''connect to metamask''

5. Get free tokens to test the 0x60 project by going to https://faucet.metamask.io/

6. Click 1 Ether

7. Go back to https://0x60.app/ and connect to metamask.

8. Write a comment, click ''Submit'' and in the transaction (it might pop-up or you have to click on the metamask icon in your browser (it will have a notification 1)) click on ''Edit'' in the ''GAS FEE'' section and choose the ''fast'' transaction available for fastest comment approval.

9. VOILA!

HOW TO CHANGE THE TOPIC
To change the topic you have to look at how many board tokens you need to change it (it is displayed under the topic box, currently it is standing at ''Change topic for 6 tokens [Create & publish]''

So, you need to make at least 6 comments to change the topic. For now, the only way to get the tokens is by commenting, later you will be able to buy them.

WHAT'S NEXT
Report your results in this thread or simply have a chat with us.

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September 29, 2019, 07:48:24 PM
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Well, well, another smart contract to play with. Interesting use case too - something similar to Steemit? But what about the cost to comment in the live network? Isn't that a non-starter if the cost is too expensive, just to comment?

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September 30, 2019, 11:21:59 AM
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In the whitepaper, you wrote that to combat spam, it is provided for: writing a comment once a minute. It seems to me that this will not stop spammers. Maybe you have other methods of fighting spam?
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September 30, 2019, 05:11:11 PM
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Hello everyone I am the lead developer on this project here to answer some of the questions!  Wink



something similar to Steemit? But what about the cost to comment in the live network? Isn't that a non-starter if the cost is too expensive, just to comment?

I guess it's sort of like Steemit? The way 0x60 is built though, it resembles more of a social pyramid/hybrid in my opinion.

There's the dev on top who earns from topic creations

Below are topic creators who earn from users commenting their topic

And finally there are the users commenting who directly earn from the act of commenting alone

However unlike a normal pyramid the actions of the users below don't give any gains to the dev on top.

The cost to comment on a live network is indeed an obstacle, but it is my belief that when a comment costs money, users would naturally be more careful in choosing the right words etc. to get their point across without unnecessary spam. Hopefully this leads to more meaningful discussions?



Maybe you have other methods of fighting spam?

In addition to the fact that each comment will cost you Gas, there is a built in function in the smart contract to "ban" users.

The way it works is anyone will be able to (not implemented in the front end dapp yet) give a warning to a user.

A warning will cost you 1 BOARD token which gets burned.

If a user receives a total of 10 warnings, they will be unable to create topics or post comments on the platform.

There is a way for the admin to remove this block should the need arise.

I left this part out of the whitepaper for now because we haven't actually tested the functionality yet.



Since BOARD is an ERC20 token I believe the price will naturally adjust on the open market and theoretically it won't go lower than the amount of Gas it takes to mint 1 token. There is no incentive to sell the tokens for a lower price. Of course we cannot know this and the success of the project (or experiment, if you will) is dependent on whether or not users believe there will be value in the BOARD token in the future. So basically just like any other token out there. Except we start from a working use case, not from simply copy pasting a token contract  Wink



Ideally 0x60 will be a system that feeds itself if the following conditions are met:

1) The users see potential value in BOARD token and are willing to spend their Gas on it in order to sell their token later when topic creation becomes more expensive
2) The advertisers realize that people are interested in BOARD token and visit the platform (traffic for advertisers increases) and want to create topics about their own projects in order to gain new users

And since the outbidding of topics increases by 1 BOARD token each time, it will take more and more tokens to get their topic out there.
This makes sense because as time goes by, more people will hear about 0x60 and it means more visitors land on the platform which justifies the increased costs to advertise!
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September 30, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
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The cost to comment on a live network is indeed an obstacle, but it is my belief that when a comment costs money, users would naturally be more careful in choosing the right words etc. to get their point across without unnecessary spam. Hopefully this leads to more meaningful discussions?

In essence, what you are saying is 0x60 will become something similar to a paid forum where members will have to subscribe in order to interact or reply to posts. I don't know how will you promote this site to potential users when the whole internet is used to freemium models.

May I suggest that you consider the BETA with Ropsten ETH as the live one? Meaning if there are at least 1,000 - 10,000 users in beta, you port the content into the live one. Kind of like "post now while it's free."

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Yesterday I wrote a comment on your forum, but today it is no longer there. Was it deleted?
If so, how is the deletion of the comment, who can do it?
Transaction Comment: 0x024a77acb3268dfed85c41b495cc47722ab6cba65b0cf91b537302ed40c2d4c7
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October 01, 2019, 06:13:36 AM
Last edit: October 29, 2019, 07:42:12 PM by mprep
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In essence, what you are saying is 0x60 will become something similar to a paid forum where members will have to subscribe in order to interact or reply to posts. I don't know how will you promote this site to potential users when the whole internet is used to freemium models.

May I suggest that you consider the BETA with Ropsten ETH as the live one? Meaning if there are at least 1,000 - 10,000 users in beta, you port the content into the live one. Kind of like "post now while it's free."

To view comments and topics you just have to establish a web3 connection. It doesn't cost anything.

The cost per comment depends on current network conditions so it can fluctuate. And it's not that high in my opinion for it to be a major problem if a user feels like they have something important to contribute, but at the same time it is high enough to stop mindless spamming.

BOARD token is also a deflationary token which hopefully will help the project gain traction because there are a ton of deflationary coins out there with no actual use case, yet people still want them. In the end it all depends on whether users feel like the price per token (Gas) justifies itself in the long run. Nobody can guarantee there will be any value in it of course, but hopefully the deflationary aspect will help.

I also thought about your idea of leaving it on testnet at first. I guess the best we can do is offer testnet tokens to be converted into main net tokens 1:1 once we are ready to go live?



Yesterday I wrote a comment on your forum, but today it is no longer there. Was it deleted?
If so, how is the deletion of the comment, who can do it?
Transaction Comment: 0x024a77acb3268dfed85c41b495cc47722ab6cba65b0cf91b537302ed40c2d4c7

Strange indeed. I could not find your tx on Etherscan either. Since everything is stored on the Ethereum blockchain nobody can delete anything. The comments and topics will all be permanently available even if our front end doesn't display them. Sort of like a censorship free message board Wink

We are planning on making an archive type page where the history can also be viewed easily.

As for your comment, not sure what happened. Did it actually go through or is it still pending? Then again if we can not find the tx on Etherscan it simply doesn't exist. Maybe you gave the wrong hash? Sure the network was Ropsten?
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October 01, 2019, 08:30:28 AM
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Awesome! We are getting new testers to make comments and try the essence of the project. Nobody has been able to change the topic yet, because you need to have at least 6 Board tokens in order to do it. That means, you must make 6 comments to be able to do it. You can make those 6 comments across many different topics or under one topic.
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Yesterday I wrote a comment on your forum, but today it is no longer there. Was it deleted?
If so, how is the deletion of the comment, who can do it?
Transaction Comment: 0x024a77acb3268dfed85c41b495cc47722ab6cba65b0cf91b537302ed40c2d4c7

Strange indeed. I could not find your tx on Etherscan either. Since everything is stored on the Ethereum blockchain nobody can delete anything. The comments and topics will all be permanently available even if our front end doesn't display them. Sort of like a censorship free message board Wink

We are planning on making an archive type page where the history can also be viewed easily.

As for your comment, not sure what happened. Did it actually go through or is it still pending? Then again if we can not find the tx on Etherscan it simply doesn't exist. Maybe you gave the wrong hash? Sure the network was Ropsten?
This transaction is not on Etherscan io, but here it is https://blockscout.com/eth/ropsten/address/0x192a2c9ae6fc9a04bb696dbf547e695e8b8ee235/tokens
Yesterday my comment was displayed on the forum, they gave me one coin BOARD, and today the comment is gone.
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October 01, 2019, 12:14:31 PM
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Transactions don't just disappear. They can get stuck from time to time, but would still show up as pending. When I look at your address, I don't see any outgoing tx. Just the incoming 1 testnet ether

https://ropsten.etherscan.io/address/0x192a2c9ae6fc9a04bb696dbf547e695e8b8ee235

Something else must be going on if you insist that you indeed submitted the comment. But from what we can see and verify, it looks like you never submitted a comment on the platform. Even your 1 eth is untouched which indicates you didn't use Gas.
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October 01, 2019, 01:17:24 PM
Last edit: October 29, 2019, 07:42:37 PM by mprep
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Yesterday I wrote a comment on your forum, but today it is no longer there. Was it deleted?
If so, how is the deletion of the comment, who can do it?
Transaction Comment: 0x024a77acb3268dfed85c41b495cc47722ab6cba65b0cf91b537302ed40c2d4c7

Strange indeed. I could not find your tx on Etherscan either. Since everything is stored on the Ethereum blockchain nobody can delete anything. The comments and topics will all be permanently available even if our front end doesn't display them. Sort of like a censorship free message board Wink

We are planning on making an archive type page where the history can also be viewed easily.

As for your comment, not sure what happened. Did it actually go through or is it still pending? Then again if we can not find the tx on Etherscan it simply doesn't exist. Maybe you gave the wrong hash? Sure the network was Ropsten?
This transaction is not on Etherscan io, but here it is https://blockscout.com/eth/ropsten/address/0x192a2c9ae6fc9a04bb696dbf547e695e8b8ee235/tokens
Yesterday my comment was displayed on the forum, they gave me one coin BOARD, and today the comment is gone.

Could you, please, make a new comment? We want to make sure everything is working fine, but for now it looks like no comment was made (hence, no gas was used from your account).

We are still in a test period and any feedback is considered. T

https://0x60.app/



Got a little conversation going on on the DAPP already. The spammers won't be able to get away with their dirty work because they can get banned.
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October 01, 2019, 07:04:00 PM
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In essence, what you are saying is 0x60 will become something similar to a paid forum where members will have to subscribe in order to interact or reply to posts. I don't know how will you promote this site to potential users when the whole internet is used to freemium models.

May I suggest that you consider the BETA with Ropsten ETH as the live one? Meaning if there are at least 1,000 - 10,000 users in beta, you port the content into the live one. Kind of like "post now while it's free."

To view comments and topics you just have to establish a web3 connection. It doesn't cost anything.

The cost per comment depends on current network conditions so it can fluctuate. And it's not that high in my opinion for it to be a major problem if a user feels like they have something important to contribute, but at the same time it is high enough to stop mindless spamming.

BOARD token is also a deflationary token which hopefully will help the project gain traction because there are a ton of deflationary coins out there with no actual use case, yet people still want them. In the end it all depends on whether users feel like the price per token (Gas) justifies itself in the long run. Nobody can guarantee there will be any value in it of course, but hopefully the deflationary aspect will help.

I also thought about your idea of leaving it on testnet at first. I guess the best we can do is offer testnet tokens to be converted into main net tokens 1:1 once we are ready to go live?

Well, I guess that's better than nothing. Anyway, you know what I'm talking about. Even people here in Bitcointalk don't know what a web3 browser is. (browser that can connect to DApps, currently through Metamask). I'm seeing the forum is going to be a niche (DApps interaction) within a niche (crypto-centric internet users). 0x60.app is truly five steps ahead of its time.

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Yesterday I wrote a comment on your forum, but today it is no longer there. Was it deleted?
If so, how is the deletion of the comment, who can do it?
Transaction Comment: 0x024a77acb3268dfed85c41b495cc47722ab6cba65b0cf91b537302ed40c2d4c7

Strange indeed. I could not find your tx on Etherscan either. Since everything is stored on the Ethereum blockchain nobody can delete anything. The comments and topics will all be permanently available even if our front end doesn't display them. Sort of like a censorship free message board Wink

We are planning on making an archive type page where the history can also be viewed easily.

As for your comment, not sure what happened. Did it actually go through or is it still pending? Then again if we can not find the tx on Etherscan it simply doesn't exist. Maybe you gave the wrong hash? Sure the network was Ropsten?
This transaction is not on Etherscan io, but here it is https://blockscout.com/eth/ropsten/address/0x192a2c9ae6fc9a04bb696dbf547e695e8b8ee235/tokens
Yesterday my comment was displayed on the forum, they gave me one coin BOARD, and today the comment is gone.

Could you, please, make a new comment? We want to make sure everything is working fine, but for now it looks like no comment was made (hence, no gas was used from your account).

We are still in a test period and any feedback is considered. T

https://0x60.app/
I left a comment from a different address, everything turned out the first time. https://ropsten.etherscan.io/tx/0x1132bc4d39e43896946bf583ee8f1066fca7adb0ce624f8252592e7fb3989d50
I don’t know why it didn’t work out in the past. Maybe need to create a new address in Metamask, and not import the old one.
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October 02, 2019, 05:12:46 AM
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I left a comment from a different address, everything turned out the first time. https://ropsten.etherscan.io/tx/0x1132bc4d39e43896946bf583ee8f1066fca7adb0ce624f8252592e7fb3989d50
I don’t know why it didn’t work out in the past. Maybe need to create a new address in Metamask, and not import the old one.

Glad to hear it worked out! Just saw your comment too thanks Smiley
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For all the testers out there, try to get 6 BOARD tokens to change the topic of your desire. You earn 1 BOARD for every comment somebody makes on it. This is your opportunity to get everyone to talk about your idea, project, question, discussion etc.



We are looking for more testers to give feedback on the design, user experience, and report bugs if you find out any!  Smiley

+ Try to attempt to change the board topic, you need to have 6 BOARD tokens to do so - meaning that you need to post 6 comments on the existing board.
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We are looking for more testers to give feedback on the design, user experience, and report bugs if you find out any!  Smiley

+ Try to attempt to change the board topic, you need to have 6 BOARD tokens to do so - meaning that you need to post 6 comments on the existing board.
I tried to change the topic, everything works fine.
But I can’t say yet that it’s convenient. Need to get used to such a forum. I think advertisers will be interested in it, because an ordinary user is unlikely to want to spend his coins without receiving any benefits.
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I tried to change the topic, everything works fine.
But I can’t say yet that it’s convenient. Need to get used to such a forum. I think advertisers will be interested in it, because an ordinary user is unlikely to want to spend his coins without receiving any benefits.

Just saw your comment, good job!

Well, there is still the chance that you can turn a profit as in you earn back more tokens than you spent when others comment your topic.

Remember you have 60 minutes of guaranteed exposure where nobody can change the topic. This is a window to earn back your investment.

And eventually, once there are daily active users, perhaps the advertisers are willing to simply buy tokens from a decentralized exchange? Especially when the outbid price is higher so it's not worth spending time on earning tokens Roll Eyes

This could make the platform profitable/useful for everyone involved.
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So far it is looking very good. People can make comments and change the topic. This project now needs more attention in the crypto space.
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I tried to change the topic, everything works fine.
But I can’t say yet that it’s convenient. Need to get used to such a forum. I think advertisers will be interested in it, because an ordinary user is unlikely to want to spend his coins without receiving any benefits.

Just saw your comment, good job!

Well, there is still the chance that you can turn a profit as in you earn back more tokens than you spent when others comment your topic.

Remember you have 60 minutes of guaranteed exposure where nobody can change the topic. This is a window to earn back your investment.

And eventually, once there are daily active users, perhaps the advertisers are willing to simply buy tokens from a decentralized exchange? Especially when the outbid price is higher so it's not worth spending time on earning tokens Roll Eyes

This could make the platform profitable/useful for everyone involved.
When a user creates a new topic, do the tokens burn out completely or go to the storage bank? ... or how? )
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When a user creates a new topic, do the tokens burn out completely or go to the storage bank? ... or how? )

When a user creates a new topic then ALL spent tokens will burn completely, decreasing the total supply. There is no "bank" or reserve.

The same function then mints 1 new token to developer's address, increasing the total supply by 1.
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