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October 04, 2019, 02:04:07 AM Last edit: October 04, 2019, 04:37:20 AM by YOSHIE |
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I think, account: HavucHamdi#, specifically made for fraud, I'm very sure he was directly involved in the mycro work team, And my suspicion again, most likely many victims who have been deceived in addition to mycro jobs participants.
At least, from the evidence he spoke that he was originally a German.
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3299765.msg34447624#msg34447624
http://archive.is/4UcwV
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3406965.msg35662800#msg35662800
http://archive.is/Zoao6
Other evidence about payera.io, scam.
You can see here all the (ANN) topics were deleted without traces.1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5080233.msg48513985#msg485139852. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4837902.msg43645603#msg436456033. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3616035.msg36576921#msg36576921 Don't trust this team if you later get a new bounty that is held. This is a sneaky fraud team.Mycro team, con artists.Warning: If you deal with dogs and this person, you will be destroyed and cheated.
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October 04, 2019, 10:01:48 PM |
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At least, from the evidence he spoke that he was originally a German.
Yeah, looks like he's speaking German: Ich frage mich jedoch wie die Regierung dezentrale Kryptowährungen verbieten will. Ich denke dass es da eher um die Macht der Kontrolle von Kryptowährungen geht, weil um das verbieten zu können müssten Sie in ganz Deutschland das Internet abstellen oder Strom! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Die Medien werden genutzt um den Markt zu manipulieren und die Kurse zu drücken. Otto Normalverbraucher verschrecken bei Negativschlagzeilen und verkaufen direkt ab, somit wäre Ihr Ziel erreicht. I'll send him a PM tomorrow to ask him a few questions and evaluate if I'm going to support the flag or not (of course I won't oppose it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) The flag is active now even without additional support. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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October 07, 2019, 10:35:59 AM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 09:12:58 AM by YOSHIE |
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I'll send him a PM tomorrow to ask him a few questions and evaluate if I'm going to support the flag or not
I'm not sure he will answer PM, because @HavucHamdi #, has not visited his account since September 25, 2019, maybe he was having fun with MYO's tokens, someone else's sweat.It's been 13 days, I think he doesn't need that account anymore, A fraudster is very easy to create a new account again in implementing a new campaign, so at least I can recognize the existing Mycro Team, maybe for the future, if I find I do not stay silent.your input is very positive, don't be in a hurry, consider your decision carefully, everything is good and bad is in your hands, for me the wrong remains in the law, even though it's one house with me, that's my principle.Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg52689388#msg52689388
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Ok, little update from my side: I've PMed HavucHamdi# and he replied but he didn't go much into detail. His excuse was that he's not part of the team (without proof but we have no proof too.) I can somehow believe he's not part of the team but that doesn't help the scammed participants. I'm still waiting for another reply from him that he puts in at least some effort as bounty manager to get participants in his campaign paid by putting pressure on the scammers. It's not trustworthy for their shitcoin at all to scam bounty participants and spread lies. A bad reputation can kill their shitcoin (if it's not killed otherwise before ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) If he's a honest bounty manager showing responsibility for his management he will try to do something to put pressure on the scammers. I know it's a difficult job but if he cares for the bounty participants I can imagine some users might remove their support of the flag or negative trust and forgive him. If he just stays silent I don't see a way to solve that. He said he doesn't care for the negative feeback I've left him (well I didn't leave any feedback for him nor supported the flag yet). Seems like he's done for now. So, I guess we can't do much here anymore. Let's hope that mycro jobs will end like 99% of the other shitcoins: without value. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Sorry for everyone wasting time here. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) And good luck for future bounties. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Ok, little update from my side: I've PMed HavucHamdi# and he replied but he didn't go much into detail. His excuse was that he's not part of the team (without proof but we have no proof too.) I can somehow believe he's not part of the team but that doesn't help the scammed participants. I'm still waiting for another reply from him that he puts in at least some effort as bounty manager to get participants in his campaign paid by putting pressure on the scammers. It's not trustworthy for their shitcoin at all to scam bounty participants and spread lies. A bad reputation can kill their shitcoin (if it's not killed otherwise before ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) If he's a honest bounty manager showing responsibility for his management he will try to do something to put pressure on the scammers. I know it's a difficult job but if he cares for the bounty participants I can imagine some users might remove their support of the flag or negative trust and forgive him. If he just stays silent I don't see a way to solve that. He said he doesn't care for the negative feeback I've left him (well I didn't leave any feedback for him nor supported the flag yet). Seems like he's done for now. So, I guess we can't do much here anymore. Let's hope that mycro jobs will end like 99% of the other shitcoins: without value. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Sorry for everyone wasting time here. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) And good luck for future bounties. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) this bounty manager dont even check the replies for the signature campaign he gives stakes for inactive users he got all stakes and we really got scammed i think amount of tokens is lower than 600 k
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i am support of this. this guys are scammers and it is appealling that nobody has to say anything. admins here should help us. this project did a bounty for over a year. a year and few months. during the campaign, it was clearly stated that KYC WAS not required. unfortunately, the bounty ended and the project owners demanded for KYC to pay hunters. it is suspicious. THEY DON;T WANT TO PAY HUNTERS Worst still, KYC lasted for three days. this is terrible and it is very wrong.
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October 26, 2019, 05:17:32 PM |
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I would like to support your flag but I don't know how the bounty manager is related to the scammers. If he's part of the team and not hired independently he deserves a tag and a scammer flag. Is it known in which way he's related to the team?
HavucHamdi #, a team / member of Thomas Miller, @Thomas Miller, he is a mycro manager, and a derector of the mycro company. I once contacted him. A few weeks ago. But: Unfortunately it did not go smoothly, Thomas, it ran away. I get you 100% that the devs are scammers and deserve a red tag if they would have an account here. I would give it right away. But my problem is that I have difficulties in supporting the flag against the independent bounty manager who seems to be hired by the scammers. If I start tagging him as an independent bounty manager I would have to tag all other bounty managers where a bounty turned out to be a KYC-scam. So for supporting the flag I need a very strong proof that the bounty manager is a part of the team and involved in the scam by supporting it. Maybe that's also the reason why your flag hasn't sufficient support yet because the manager seems to be related to them but not with final proof. I checked his profile and he managed also some other campaigns before. i am sorry but i must say that the bounty manager must be held responsible for such act. it is wrong to say he is not aware of the scam activities perpetrated by the MYCRO Job team. he deserved to be FLAGGED as well because: 1:he pulled out immediately after the campaign and requested that all bounty issues should be forwarded to the Mycro job telegram group. Knowing fully well the consequences involved. he knows that participants will be banned and restricted in the telegram group if they requested for their token. 2; He( the bounty manager) should be held responsible please about the campaign. he was paid for that job and he NEVER SPEAK on behalf of his hunters. i asked why he failed to represent the telegram members that participated in that bounty and he said he is following orders from the mycro job owners.
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There is no two ways about it. he is involved in that project but acts like he knew nothing. i am sure he is the strategist and the master-minder behind the request for bounty participants to do KYC. I think he is responsible for insisting that the KYC should be held only for three days. i participated in TEMTUM Project that ended in Mid August. till date. there kyc bounty is still open for hunters to participate and the KYC was meant to take place on an exchange where the token is listed NOT a google stuff kyc.
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October 27, 2019, 05:34:33 AM |
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Are you also a MYCRO participant, are you not getting MYO tokens through their silly kyc. @TheBusstop, patiently everyone can handle it well, not how much money they want to give. Their mycro team's reputation is worse now than expected. Furthermore, when you enter the campaign in the future, see a professional and trustworthy manager.
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October 27, 2019, 05:06:35 PM |
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I get you 100% that the devs are scammers and deserve a red tag if they would have an account here. I would give it right away. But my problem is that I have difficulties in supporting the flag against the independent bounty manager who seems to be hired by the scammers. If I start tagging him as an independent bounty manager I would have to tag all other bounty managers where a bounty turned out to be a KYC-scam. So for supporting the flag I need a very strong proof that the bounty manager is a part of the team and involved in the scam by supporting it.
Maybe that's also the reason why your flag hasn't sufficient support yet because the manager seems to be related to them but not with final proof. I checked his profile and he managed also some other campaigns before.
That's the sad and risky part of being a bounty manager, they are the ones who can only be tagged from the devious activities of the project and he has totally no say or control on it. Sudden allocation changes and KYC requirement is not his job to do but that is what the project devs are asking him to do so. Tagging him won't solve anything and won't make the team to pay the right amount as well as pull out the KYC requirement. Since the bounty manager is the only one linking the project to the forum then he automatically becomes part of the liable party which shouldn't be in the first place, he might even be a victim here.
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If he's a honest bounty manager showing responsibility for his management he will try to do something to put pressure on the scammers.
Well, regarding his honesty, just have a look at the spreadsheet. He has given himself stakes for the full length of the campaign although he has not even come close to the required number of posts. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQ8xeqbk.jpg&t=665&c=DabaiVhfoC_ebQ) He said he doesn't care for the negative feeback I've left him (well I didn't leave any feedback for him nor supported the flag yet). Seems like he's done for now.
He had also never been interested in the Bounty campaign, simply entering weekly stakes without checking if the participants qualify. If you look at the wallet of the Bounty Manager, you see that he also got 200,000 tokens for this job. (with a Token Sale value of $50k) Not bad I would say, especially when you consider that the team finally took the Bounty campaign into their own hands.
And regarding the KYC provider: We were always told "We'll use a trusted KYC provider for your documents". Of course, I never got an answer to my question who this provider was. Even when I had a longer conversation with Thomas Bolleyer (COO) via PM, the provider's name was not communicated to me. In one of the last announcements it says now only "WE'RE going through the kyc". So now all of a sudden the team goes through the documents. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD9TA47j.jpg&t=665&c=yBuN242QZJzOag) source: https://t.me/mycrojobs/34776But as I said in one of my last posts, which serious KYC provider would collect the data via a Google form. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Oh, and one more thing: I ended up getting my tokens without doing KYC. But I also had longer correspondence with the COO. So if you haven't received your tokens yet or missed the KYC window, you should try to contact Thomas Bolleyer via telegram: @tbolleyer Good Luck.
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I think someone participating in the campaign can start a type 3 flag as an agreement about the total number of bounty tokens to be paid was made earlier and broken by the bounty manager or at most the team.
Yes, i think so too. Flag 3, from the beginning there was no KYC agreement, even worse, KYC, had to take a link via telegram, not published in the topic mycro bounty, I think only a few participants saw the telegram and got the KYC link. This is different from other prizes, they try to fool all MYO tokens, and per kyc slice makes no sense, burdening the participants.I agree with you, they really deceived the participants in the bounty. Moreover, they cut the pool without explaining anything to anyone. Unfortunately, there are more and more such fraudulent companies and there is no desire to participate in them. Because honestly performed work is not paid, and unscrupulous work is paid. For example, SparkPoint, these guys have not been distributing bounties for a year now and the slightest mention of the bounty disgusts them, they silently remove participants from the telegram chat.
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Well, regarding his honesty, just have a look at the spreadsheet. He has given himself stakes for the full length of the campaign although he has not even come close to the required number of posts. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQ8xeqbk.jpg&t=665&c=DabaiVhfoC_ebQ) He had also never been interested in the Bounty campaign, simply entering weekly stakes without checking if the participants qualify. If you look at the wallet of the Bounty Manager, you see that he also got 200,000 tokens for this job. (with a Token Sale value of $50k) Not bad I would say, especially when you consider that the team finally took the Bounty campaign into their own hands. Shitcoin business as usual and it would be okay in my opinion to add a neutral trust to point that out. Since he isn't active anymore it's not really needed but you can still do it as a participant of his bounty if you want. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
And regarding the KYC provider: We were always told "We'll use a trusted KYC provider for your documents". Of course, I never got an answer to my question who this provider was. Even when I had a longer conversation with Thomas Bolleyer (COO) via PM, the provider's name was not communicated to me. In one of the last announcements it says now only "WE'RE going through the kyc". So now all of a sudden the team goes through the documents. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD9TA47j.jpg&t=665&c=yBuN242QZJzOag) source: https://t.me/mycrojobs/34776But as I said in one of my last posts, which serious KYC provider would collect the data via a Google form. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) That's showing how unprofessional they are. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It's insane how they are handling the sensitive personal data of their own participants; without them, the project wouldn't exist. Another reason for the downfall of ICOs, everyone who's at least a little bit serious about his own privacy would avoid such shitty KYC without doubt. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Oh, and one more thing: I ended up getting my tokens without doing KYC. But I also had longer correspondence with the COO. So if you haven't received your tokens yet or missed the KYC window, you should try to contact Thomas Bolleyer via telegram: @tbolleyer Good Luck.
Nice to hear that you got paid finally and the COO solved the "problem" (which was actually completely caused by the team ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ). I hope these Shitcoins are at least worth a few satoshis or you could sell them immediately. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Oh, and one more thing: I ended up getting my tokens without doing KYC. But I also had longer correspondence with the COO. So if you haven't received your tokens yet or missed the KYC window, you should try to contact Thomas Bolleyer via telegram: @tbolleyer Good Luck.
I've participated in this bounty and it makes me sad, that I have ask (count it as beg) to get my reward. I've missed that "3 day window" to pass the KYC, because I was not able to monitor 24/7 updated in telegram group... With such a bad attitude to bounty hunter, hope they'll get it back as boomerang.
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Nice to hear that you got paid finally and the COO solved the "problem" (which was actually completely caused by the team ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ). I hope these Shitcoins are at least worth a few satoshis or you could sell them immediately. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Unfortunately I was not able to sell the tokens as of today. The order book is simply too thin. I've participated in this bounty and it makes me sad, that I have ask (count it as beg) to get my reward. I've missed that "3 day window" to pass the KYC, because I was not able to monitor 24/7 updated in telegram group...
Had you actually also contacted the COO I mentioned above? He once told me: "If there are any other challenges - it would be best to pass those people directly to me"
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