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October 02, 2019, 06:21:45 PM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?

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October 02, 2019, 06:27:04 PM
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As thether claiming that in order to mint new thether they must have 25% of real currency in their fractionar reserve.

So in order to create 75mil usd they just have to have 25mil usd.



Could be the tether will be the gate to the crypto markets for the new printed Money entering in crypto?
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October 02, 2019, 06:33:20 PM
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As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!
You sound almost gleeful about the rampant money printing and I would be careful about that.  The stocks, metals, and real estate assets that have gone up over the past few years may not be a good thing at all.  If there's too much money available it creates an artificial bubble destined to pop eventually.  Metals might be going up because traders are sick of inflated stock values and I would venture that gold might be a good investment right now.

As regards bitcoin, there has to be demand for it.  There is certainly enough investor money available but if they arent interested in it, bitcoin's price isn't going to rise.  But in my estimation I believe bitcoin is in a temporary slump.  There was a big selloff after it hit its latest high, which produced the correction we now see.  Not sure at all what money printing has to do with it.

I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?
In my opinion fresh money generally goes into the bond or stock markets, not in crypto.  Were that the case, Bakkt might be performing much better.
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October 02, 2019, 06:33:38 PM
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Im asking that kind of question, as there is many crypto analyzers and crypto so called "experts "
And their predictions like btc to 100k. Or even 300k.

If they are so sure about this why they dont explain how the fiat money fresh money printed by mostly ecb and Federal reserve will find the Way in to crypto market?
Coz when this money is not going to be invested into cryptocurrency then btc will not reach even to 15k. In order to btc go to at least 20k there must be exacly Plan and action how and from wich door or gate the fiat currency will be invested into crypto market  !!
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October 02, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
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As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!
You sound almost gleeful about the rampant money printing and I would be careful about that.  The stocks, metals, and real estate assets that have gone up over the past few years may not be a good thing at all.  If there's too much money available it creates an artificial bubble destined to pop eventually.  Metals might be going up because traders are sick of inflated stock values and I would venture that gold might be a good investment right now.

As regards bitcoin, there has to be demand for it.  There is certainly enough investor money available but if they arent interested in it, bitcoin's price isn't going to rise.  But in my estimation I believe bitcoin is in a temporary slump.  There was a big selloff after it hit its latest high, which produced the correction we now see.  Not sure at all what money printing has to do with it.

I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?
In my opinion fresh money generally goes into the bond or stock markets, not in crypto.  Were that the case, Bakkt might be performing much better.


Bitcoin price is going up yes only If there is demand.

Sure the Capital is there but mainly the fresh money is invested into Property /stocks/gold.

Once the Property/stocks/gold will go up the first investors will start selling 20%-50% to make some profits it will make small crash that crash will create FUD. 

50% Capital might find the Way to cryptocurrency markets! 


I give mximum a month and we will see the gold price to come down even stocks.

But it wount stay down for too long, there is alot new Capital wich will make prices to go ATH.


WE ARE pretty much clear about gold/stocks/Property prices, but crypto DESTINY Still Unknown!
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October 02, 2019, 06:50:36 PM
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Im asking that kind of question, as there is many crypto analyzers and crypto so called "experts "
And their predictions like btc to 100k. Or even 300k.

If they are so sure about this why they dont explain how the fiat money fresh money printed by mostly ecb and Federal reserve will find the Way in to crypto market?
Coz when this money is not going to be invested into cryptocurrency then btc will not reach even to 15k. In order to btc go to at least 20k there must be exacly Plan and action how and from wich door or gate the fiat currency will be invested into crypto market  !!

The money has already been printed. A long time ago. There are a lot of people out there who don't have to worry about money and have millions of dollars just sitting in the bank that they don't have to even worry about if they lost it. Even if those people don't invest in Bitcoin personally, they may purchase lets say a classic car from a guy for $50,000. He then takes $10,000 of that $50,000 and invests it into Bitcoin. Even 1,000 people working a part time job investing only $20/month into Bitcoin adds up after a while. The money is already in the economy to invest in. As soon as Bitcoin is all over the news again(in a positive way), it will come into the marketcap.
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October 02, 2019, 06:54:42 PM
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Im asking that kind of question, as there is many crypto analyzers and crypto so called "experts "
And their predictions like btc to 100k. Or even 300k.

If they are so sure about this why they dont explain how the fiat money fresh money printed by mostly ecb and Federal reserve will find the Way in to crypto market?
Coz when this money is not going to be invested into cryptocurrency then btc will not reach even to 15k. In order to btc go to at least 20k there must be exacly Plan and action how and from wich door or gate the fiat currency will be invested into crypto market  !!

The money has already been printed. A long time ago. There are a lot of people out there who don't have to worry about money and have millions of dollars just sitting in the bank that they don't have to even worry about if they lost it. Even if those people don't invest in Bitcoin personally, they may purchase lets say a classic car from a guy for $50,000. He then takes $10,000 of that $50,000 and invests it into Bitcoin. Even 1,000 people working a part time job investing only $20/month into Bitcoin adds up after a while. The money is already in the economy to invest in. As soon as Bitcoin is all over the news again(in a positive way), it will come into the marketcap.



Yes i think you are right!
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October 02, 2019, 06:57:44 PM
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But BTC  goes up when usually there is large buy orders  Usually on biggest well known exchangers
Pairs like :  usdt to btc usdc to btc.


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October 02, 2019, 07:06:52 PM
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Im asking that kind of question, as there is many crypto analyzers and crypto so called "experts "
And their predictions like btc to 100k. Or even 300k.

If they are so sure about this why they dont explain how the fiat money fresh money printed by mostly ecb and Federal reserve will find the Way in to crypto market?
Coz when this money is not going to be invested into cryptocurrency then btc will not reach even to 15k. In order to btc go to at least 20k there must be exacly Plan and action how and from wich door or gate the fiat currency will be invested into crypto market  !!

The money that the fed prints is not going directly into Cryptocurrencies. They are going mostly into stocks.

There is alot of speculation out there that there is a huge supply of new US dollars printed and it leads to massive inflation and people will be buying bitcoin instead to hedge against that inflation. This is similiar to what happened back in 2013 with the Yuan devaluation and it lead to the crazy chinese crypto rally of 2014 where BTC peaked at $1100 or so. People were losing money holding their fiat, so they hedged some of their savings into Bitcoin instead. Right now there is speculation that the same will happen with the US dollar.
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October 02, 2019, 07:12:51 PM
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Even if the government prints new money their citizens still has to earn it, the government just don't give them away to their citizens for them to spend it on everything. If you are expecting that the newly printed money will go on its way fast in the crypto industry then think again, printing new money doesn't mean a thing aside from devaluing their own fiat currency. It doesn't promote anything about boosting the economy but it's just about timing the supply and demand for it.
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October 02, 2019, 07:17:32 PM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?

As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!

I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?

It isn't a straightforward process. The best analogy I can think of is called "sector rotation." It's this idea that stock investors take profits in one sector and move onto the next depending on the market's position in the business cycle:



In a broader sense, I believe this behavior is not restricted to stocks. There are cycles of money flow among bonds, equities, real estate, commodities, etc. During "risk-on" cycles, some excess capital will flow into the crypto markets.

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October 03, 2019, 06:44:31 AM
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But BTC  goes up when usually there is large buy orders  Usually on biggest well known exchangers
Pairs like :  usdt to btc usdc to btc.

not really. in fact those pairs have the lowest volumes as they are not popular at all. these pairs are also mostly found on altcoin exchanges and they still have lower volumes as tether and other stable coins are mostly used for trading altcoins.
not to mention that bitcoin price is determined on bitcoin exchanges which only have fiat markets (usd/btc).

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October 03, 2019, 08:45:54 AM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?



The new money being printed is not free money that would end up in someone's house and then put it into crypto. People would not be paid more than their wage or what they are entitled to because of the free money. No it won't. Where I see this money coming into crypto is the indirect means. For someone who is earning returns on his gold due to it rising up might want to diversify thereby putting some money into crypto. Another scenario is the individual who got fat bonuses because the 'new money' now made it available for its company to obtain loan from the bank and thereby increasing their bottom line or scale of operation can then put money into crypto just to have a safe haven considering that the price right now is on the low side which gives the opportunity to enter the market and make reasonable returns within a short period of time.
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October 03, 2019, 11:27:37 AM
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Not- sure if you're talking about BTC and how the supply works, but there is a limited supply and you can never print/make more BTC appear, having a limited supply is great because no manipulation can occur in the market.

As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!
You sound almost gleeful about the rampant money printing and I would be careful about that.  The stocks, metals, and real estate assets that have gone up over the past few years may not be a good thing at all.  If there's too much money available it creates an artificial bubble destined to pop eventually.  Metals might be going up because traders are sick of inflated stock values and I would venture that gold might be a good investment right now.

As regards bitcoin, there has to be demand for it.  There is certainly enough investor money available but if they arent interested in it, bitcoin's price isn't going to rise.  But in my estimation I believe bitcoin is in a temporary slump.  There was a big selloff after it hit its latest high, which produced the correction we now see.  Not sure at all what money printing has to do with it.

I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?
In my opinion fresh money generally goes into the bond or stock markets, not in crypto.  Were that the case, Bakkt might be performing much better.
I agree with this mate - we've also seen in extreme cases where the money is being printed at such a rate it actually causes inflation - look at Germany after the World War if you want a really extreme example.


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October 03, 2019, 11:39:36 AM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?


I can't get what you meant by fresh money as well I don't agree with the term bitcoin is still down. If this is low then what will you say about the value of bitcoin during the month of February and March. After April it has grown in a stable way and has reached this margin.

There might be fresh economy, but that doesn't mean the economic situation around the globe has got retained and this is not good comparing the world economy with bitcoin.

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October 03, 2019, 01:08:46 PM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?

I'm going to assume that you're talking about the Fed's easing of monetary policy, which is the modern definition of central banks "printing new money".

If you're wondering why certain assets have climbed in value as a result of the expanded money supply, but not BTC or cryptos, it's really very simple.

1. There is a window of around a year before monetary policy is actually transmitted into the economy.
2. MP only in theory affects aggregate asset values, but when you look at each individual asset and their price cycles, if an easing in policy coincides with a bearish market sentiment (like crypto is in, right now), then it is absolutely possible that there is no net effect or even continued slip in crypto values.
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October 03, 2019, 01:20:07 PM
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But BTC  goes up when usually there is large buy orders  Usually on biggest well known exchangers
Pairs like :  usdt to btc usdc to btc.


I have seen bitcoin grew even without this pairs before.
Let us not give credits to this newly created coins which are doomed in the future.

I say more like altcoins are really the one who pulled it up and the buyers using their fiat.
By now it aint that difficult to buy bitcoin anymore unlike before. There might be countries who is still against it but they cannot stop a buyer who really want one.

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October 03, 2019, 09:28:39 PM
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The question is in what way the new printed money will find the Way in to crypto market?


As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!


I wondering wich way the New fresh money as euro,  usd and Australian dollar will be invested into cryptocurrency market?


We wouldn't know on when those fresh printed money will flow to crypto market and hence, stocks and fiat doesn't correlate anytime with crypto when it comes to price.
Volatility and Lack of regulation on what it makes to be like this.Institutional money might already be flowing behind but it will be surely out of scope of the public.
Come to think that if a country does print out new paper money they wont consider anytime on flushing all of those stuffs into the market yet how you do think about on using on developing their economy instead?

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October 03, 2019, 09:48:15 PM
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Where I see this money coming into crypto is the indirect means. For someone who is earning returns on his gold due to it rising up might want to diversify thereby putting some money into crypto.

That's very unlikely. At most, the profits booked through Gold will be put into Silver for diversification purposes, especially when it comes to actual precious metal bugs. I have been reading through many precious metal blogs and whatnot, the hate and dislike towards crypto is intense. To them crypto is more unnecessary inflation, something they are against.

Crypto as alternative investment option is at the very bottom of pretty much any investment list. People aren't just skeptical about the market conditions (read, volatility, manipulation, etc) but also the fact that it isn't backed by anything. Crypto appeals to traders looking to leverage the volatile nature of this market and short term flippers, which is where most of the liquidity comes from. Other than that, it's not much actual interest.
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October 04, 2019, 02:06:41 AM
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As Property and stock markets are booming gold is going up too we have like new economic fresh start everything is going up but Bitcoin is Still down!

Bitcoin is not down. Bitcoin gained this year probably few times more that everything else you mentioned. Price increase for 110%.  How much price of Gold increased from January?  Which stocks you like most? How much those grow?
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