Ethereum Never Designed for Scalability

[crazy-pilot]

Vitalik had no idea what Ethereum would turn into when he created it. However, at the moment I believe that Ethereum can solve the problems of scalability.

[ashmodeus]

Early ETH was scalable, probably not just on a huge enough scale they imagined to the point that the whole world would be using it concurrently.

I have no arguments against ETH (vitalk, lubin, or devs) because they realized their mistake (on scalability) and have ever presently been working to correct it ever since. If anything, i would just comment on the fact that they can't get their timelines right. They've been promising ETH2.0 or proof-of-stake for 3 years now and nothing has materialized.

yes, because that not easy problem after all.

But, ethereum never stop to create solutions because they knew what their blockchain incapable of. They knew what ethereum’s limitation that’s why they never stop trying to solve and improve. They create multiple setbacks for prevention and progression of the chain.

indeed, that why they clarify it for sure on the interview.

If ethereum blockchain was never designed for scalability then why was it actually created?

it was, on the beginning.
then everything goes changed so far, also In March 2017, various blockchain start-ups, research groups, and Fortune 500 companies announced the creation of the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance (EEA) with 30 founding members.
then what i imagine, how the dev think it going so fast.
even for investor.

Firstly, I'll like to say this is a savage finding, what many people didn't imagine. I checked out that short video and was amazed that what's on this post is legit. Well, ethereum is somewhat scalable although lags to an extent. Maybe initially vitalik and his team didn't foresee that many projects will harness Eth blockchain. That aside, I hope to see an upgrade that brings in improved scalability for ETH in future.  

even me, like a dummy person after seeing that the short video was real from Lupin.

Vitalik had no idea what Ethereum would turn into when he created it. However, at the moment I believe that Ethereum can solve the problems of scalability.

even they already removed scalability problem on their pages.

[bbc.reporter]

Early ETH was scalable, probably not just on a huge enough scale they imagined to the point that the whole world would be using it concurrently.

I have no arguments against ETH (vitalk, lubin, or devs) because they realized their mistake (on scalability) and have ever presently been working to correct it ever since. If anything, i would just comment on the fact that they can't get their timelines right. They've been promising ETH2.0 or proof-of-stake for 3 years now and nothing has materialized.

Early Ethereum was not scalable. The transactions were fast because the blocks were not full and only few people used it. However, bring back the Cryptokitties hype, it would certainly slow down hehe.

In any case, does the promise of ETH 2.0 their admission that Ethereum 1.0 is a failure? It appears so, I reckon.

[crossabdd]

well in my opinion is also very strange. they make ethereum, but it's not designed for scalability. maybe at first they only made coin variants for the blockchain. but the longer it was developed, ethereum has a large support in the crypto industry. especially on the smart contract. it is proven that there are several coins that follow the concept. so ethereum becomes one part of the blockchain that has a big role.

[minersday]

well, recently i read some article,and then, i am quite surprised about it. because Vitalik Buterin and Joesph Lubin says ethereum blockchain was never designed for scalability.
firstly i think, it's just ridiculous statement. but well, since we know exactly what happened on ethreum blockchain, i guess that statement have some true point.
they maybe never think before, ethereum will have tremendous popularity in the crypto industry.
oh yeah , this their statement.

well, any thoughts ?

He has his own reasons for making this statement. In as much that you may have a good idea to develop or build something, how it will improve or succeed, you can't really tell. I'm very sure that Vitalik didn't expect Ethereum to be huge like it is now. You may find his statement ridiculous but I think he just trying to be realistic here.

[ashmodeus]

Early Ethereum was not scalable. The transactions were fast because the blocks were not full and only few people used it. However, bring back the Cryptokitties hype, it would certainly slow down hehe.

In any case, does the promise of ETH 2.0 their admission that Ethereum 1.0 is a failure? It appears so, I reckon.

firstly , they created it for scalable.
but after Hard Fork Ethereum , ETH no more scalable,even until now.

it is inversely proportional to buterin's statement which says eth 1.0 is a good achievement. even though no scalability after.
one of another goal for ETH 2.0 is try to finding a best solution for network scalability , and if i dont wrong, they call it sharding.
but well it becomes unclear after Lupin statement.

well, any thoughts ?

He has his own reasons for making this statement. In as much that you may have a good idea to develop or build something, how it will improve or succeed, you can't really tell. I'm very sure that Vitalik didn't expect Ethereum to be huge like it is now. You may find his statement ridiculous but I think he just trying to be realistic here.

yep, he did it.
he just make it clear,maybe he kept being questioned, and that bothered him a lot.

[NathanJB]

well, recently i read some article,and then, i am quite surprised about it. because Vitalik Buterin and Joesph Lubin says ethereum blockchain was never designed for scalability.
firstly i think, it's just ridiculous statement. but well, since we know exactly what happened on ethreum blockchain, i guess that statement have some true point.
they maybe never think before, ethereum will have tremendous popularity in the crypto industry.
oh yeah , this their statement.

well, any thoughts ?

If I am not mistaken, there was never an old coin whose primary purpose or goal of being created was scalability. There were problems in the traditional currency system that they are trying to solve with their project. Scalability was therefore not the topmost priority. It was only lately when Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, etc, the veterans in the crypto world, experienced this certain problem with the adoption growing. They can be given solutions to, and that is what they are doing, but then there came a lot of projects whose intention was almost solely to address the scalability problem. Well they have added such scalable features but they still cannot replace the likes of Bitcoin and Ethereum in terms of adoption. It is not scalability that is the only problem. In other words, the genius behind Ethereum is thinking of much bigger things than scalability.

[TGD]

Each coin still have their own conflicts or downs, since ETH been known and used as a main platform in many project transactions, scalability is way too hard to handle, it is not predicted to be this useful that it didn't identified yet by Vitalik , but as time pass knowing the flows in capability in coping to perform well under an expanding workload of ethereum there can be still time to design it or update in a way it will solve the problem. It's also good to address to in some alts that are still upgrading same with new alts if they want to beat or hit what ETH reached now.

[allwelder]

Vitalik had no idea what Ethereum would turn into when he created it. However, at the moment I believe that Ethereum can solve the problems of scalability.

Yes.
Everyone can not predict what will happen,including satoshi,he just released bitcoin,and begin to mine himself,now bitcoin is the most promising digital gold.

So as vitalik,his team released ethereum platform as promised,so many dapps created on it, ICO bubble,...

Many developer are building on it to make eth ecosystem stronger..

The team is solving the scalability problems with many tried,sharding,plasma,layer2.

There will be a best practice.

[Vitamin_52]

I think that if so far goes and Etherium will start to use the whole world and how bitcoin will create hard forks supporting the Etherium network. I wonder when the next halving is ETH

[UniversityCoin]

well, recently i read some article,and then, i am quite surprised about it. because Vitalik Buterin and Joesph Lubin says ethereum blockchain was never designed for scalability.
firstly i think, it's just ridiculous statement. but well, since we know exactly what happened on ethreum blockchain, i guess that statement have some true point.
they maybe never think before, ethereum will have tremendous popularity in the crypto industry.
oh yeah , this their statement.

well, any thoughts ?

I have a sufficient amount of Ethereum on my accounts and I also hope that with the release of updates, the price of this coin will grow greatly, and I will be able to earn some money. As time goes on, I have less faith in it, but I have nothing to do but wait and hope.

[ashmodeus]

I think that if so far goes and Etherium will start to use the whole world and how bitcoin will create hard forks supporting the Etherium network. I wonder when the next halving is ETH

What u talking about ?
Can u explain in the details ?
I cant understand what u talking about "how bitcoin will create hard forks supporting the ethereum network" , even it seems imposible to do .

[Herbert2020]

Never designed for scalability but that didn't stop them from promoting it as "the world computer".

I have great respect for Vitalik as a nerd but he's too often sounding like a shyster. Make up your mind, is it the world computer, or your backyard computer.

very good point.
the thing about Vitalik is that he created ethereum to make money nothing else. at that time (in early days) to get it pumped he had to make big claims like that. it is not just these simple statements like "world computer" it is about the fact that they even attacked bitcoin with sever criticism that it has high fees and claimed their coin will never have high fees. soon after they made this accusation ETH transaction fees went to $5 and more.
the problem is that even though there are many differences between ethereum and bitcoin, it is still a copy of bitcoin and because of that you can't make its blocks fast as 1 second and it will never have scalability. but when you ignore that and try it just for short term hype and dump you'll end up with 3 TB blockchain

[dirgayeah]

That's not suitable with their concept in early stage. And there's nothing new with this. Vision can be changed anytime. According on eth's current condition it must be fixed. How much project was running in this chain until now a days. Scalability always meet the obstacle and overload. Do you never think he was tired of this?

[danherbias07]

He maybe a good programmer but I guess it is not is forte with regards of seeing possible things in the future.  Being a programmer is different from being a strategist, or an economist.  He saw things in a programming language but not in how the world works.  That is why he keep on saying confusing words.  But well as you said it is not late, good thing is technology is created to evolve, so if Ethereum is initially not made to scale, they can make it scale by tweaking and upgrading its design.

Right on.

He knows what to do when those fingers are on the keyboard or just in front of computer but never the other parts of it.
He also said before that Ethereum will never reach that ATH again just after a $200 fall.
Because of that the price dropped in an instant without even stopping for a while in the mid section of the total price.
What am I pointing at?
He ain't the marketing strategies of the company.
He should really stop being something else or someone else.

[GSpgh]

the thing about Vitalik is that he created ethereum to make money nothing else.

He's already rich tho... his premine is worth probably a billion dollars. I don't think he's motivated only by money but he sounds like many other over-optimistic software developers who think that they can do anything in a fortnight. And he doesn't seem to have a real boss who can slap him back into reality.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Everyone has their strengths. I think Ethereum is one of the real proofs in crypto activity, especially blockchain technology.
If I look at the development of Ethereum in the past few months, I also agree with his statement.

Ethereum is a proof that you cannot trust them, if you remember what happened in 2016 when DAO hack happened and they hardforked and created a new chain and we still have two coins and when they roll out the version 2 they will have another new chain  . If you are an investor you will be confused about the number of chains ETH will be having after the next chain evolves .

[CryptoBry]

the thing about Vitalik is that he created ethereum to make money nothing else.

He's already rich tho... his premine is worth probably a billion dollars. I don't think he's motivated only by money but he sounds like many other over-optimistic software developers who think that they can do anything in a fortnight. And he doesn't seem to have a real boss who can slap him back into reality.

Money is always a big motivation of anyone, and we have to admit that honestly or we are just lying...but there must be a time when things must go beyond money. I am admiring Vitalik Buterin because at a young age he at least contribute something to the world of cryptocurrency and yes he has own share of detractors too and that can just be natural as nobody can please all and we have our own opinions and convictions, anyway.

Now, as far as the scalability of the Ethereum network, I am sure that devs and all the people behind it are all aware of the scale of the problem and that they must do something concrete and long-term about it. I am waiting for the Ethereum 2.0 before I will decide if Ethereum has a good future ahead of itself or will this coin just be left in the dust and allowed to die a natural "death;" hopefully we will see that 2020 is the year of make or break for Ethereum.

[dfktynby1004]

This is a very ridiculous statement. The idea of Ethereum was intended to create a world computer. That is, Vitalik Buterin initially laid the factor of huge scalability of his project. But today we see that no work on Ethereum is carried out. Yes, such statements make investors think about where they have invested their money. It is very terrible to hear such words from the flagship of the cryptocurrency industry.

[JCviggen]

the thing about Vitalik is that he created ethereum to make money nothing else.

He's already rich tho... his premine is worth probably a billion dollars. I don't think he's motivated only by money but he sounds like many other over-optimistic software developers who think that they can do anything in a fortnight. And he doesn't seem to have a real boss who can slap him back into reality.

he don't need any boss. Vitalik lives in the future. He sees how the cryptocurrency market will develop and he is in not hurrying. everything will be implemented at the right time