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October 03, 2019, 03:02:56 PM
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To operate as we know best and to operate is with Stop Loss and Take Profit, if we enter the market for or against we run the great risk of losing.

But, is there a way to do Trading at the same time and allowing us to win in whatever direction the market goes, just as Jesse Livermore did, but is it a risky practice? Maybe, but Trading is risky.

If we enter a position in Long and if we make a mistake and the market goes down and we lose, but if we enter the market in LONG, and protect our LONG with Leverage Shorts just in case? It is a smart way to be in the market always and without the need for bots.

There is a Latin American youtuber who did this test and it went well, in fact the link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7p5UTPNPIs&t=14s  but it is in Spanish:



The video was live, although it is already from 2018, but I use it as an example for the subject.

I think this is a way of always being in the market, protecting our position, and it is a technique that Jesse Livermore applied between 1800-1923, it was a great market speculator. Have you ever done it?

I think it is very risky and that the adrenaline that is lived is unique, that it requires practice, but if you have enough capital, why not do it? Protect LONG with leverage and if you enter Short protect with Long leveraged ...

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October 03, 2019, 05:07:26 PM
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This is also the method that I have heard a lot of people talk about. but really we need a cold head and very low capital to risk. Many times have advised me that you should only use $ 100 - $ 200 to deposit and start double trading. if we risk, we lose a little, but when we win, we win a lot. What do you think about this strategy?

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October 03, 2019, 06:32:11 PM
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No need to leave the market when prices go against our profits and also no need to try this risky method when we are here to stay longer time period.This strategy might be profitable but not everyone can increase their capital all the day.

We can try this with less capital and see how it goes but I don't dare to go with all of my funds.
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Depend on our risk appetite, if the simple one of waiting or doing trading regularly of common crypto find it hard for us to earn, then no need to shift in more risky method. As long as we understand the concept of our coins and still active in market like not always failing and still have some development in products then we should not really abandoned it. Check our portfolio, if all is still needs to be there.

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October 04, 2019, 09:10:49 PM
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What seems fruitful to me is that it protects your LONG, with SHORT, it is a sure way not to lose.

If the market goes against it, the LONG may be lost but since it is in a SHORT with leverage, after the movement occurs, it can leave with a positive balance and profit. This technique requires experience and, above all, great boldness.

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October 04, 2019, 09:51:30 PM
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What seems fruitful to me is that it protects your LONG, with SHORT, it is a sure way not to lose.

If the market goes against it, the LONG may be lost but since it is in a SHORT with leverage, after the movement occurs, it can leave with a positive balance and profit. This technique requires experience and, above all, great boldness.

It's the traditional form of hedging. I never saw the point though, honestly. I prefer to stop loss the losing position and reenter when it's safe, which is functionally the same as opening a hedge position and closing it.

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October 04, 2019, 09:51:55 PM
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What seems fruitful to me is that it protects your LONG, with SHORT, it is a sure way not to lose.

If the market goes against it, the LONG may be lost but since it is in a SHORT with leverage, after the movement occurs, it can leave with a positive balance and profit. This technique requires experience and, above all, great boldness.
Badly newly traders couldn't this one as it requires a high level of market understanding and trading experience. This will be a strategical way of doing trading and not all traders are using this technique. And talking about being a sure way of not losing, I appreciate how it works for everyone but I could find it hard in trading cause I know losing is already a part of crypto trading and no one could escape from that.



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October 04, 2019, 09:52:08 PM
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Well I haven't clearly understood how this method works and i would be interested in knowing more about it. Is there anybody here who knows the name of the strategy or help direct me to any links where i can read more about it(in English ofcourse)

I will appreciate anybody's efforts  Wink

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October 04, 2019, 11:06:56 PM
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For the XBT / USD pair you are discussing specifically in your example, you can trade it more aggressively on the short side because the pair is denominated in USD, so you are shorting a USD value when you open a short position.

As BTC price grows, the margin protection of your short also increases in proportion, and in fact if you are not leveraged you would never get stopped out as long as the value of your short position does not exceed the current USD value of your BTC holdings on Bitmex, so if your intention is to hedge the USD value of your BTC, keeping a short position open perpetually on Bitmex can be a lucrative way to do it...

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October 05, 2019, 07:51:44 AM
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in my experience, instead of looking for workarounds of not losing money and then choosing leverage and end up losing more money or even choosing weird methods and end up losing even more money that way, it is always best to sit down and analyze what you have been doing wrong to lose money in those trades. if we always blame our losses on risks and unpredictability we always continue losing money. otherwise the day you start making better decisions and have better entry and exit plans is the day you start making money without needing to do any crazy thing!

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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October 05, 2019, 08:36:15 AM
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This is also the method that I have heard a lot of people talk about. but really we need a cold head and very low capital to risk. Many times have advised me that you should only use $ 100 - $ 200 to deposit and start double trading. if we risk, we lose a little, but when we win, we win a lot. What do you think about this strategy?

It's no matter how much money you will use. But the most important, only use the money you can afford. If you can use $100-$200, then you can start trading, but don't expect to make double trading because that will be too risky if you don't have enough knowledge. But if you think that you can handle every situation that might happen in the market, you can go with that. And if you think you can make some profit and the situation has changed, it is better to close your trade because sometimes you will be safe to close right away than to wait for a little time. Don't risk too much money.
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October 05, 2019, 11:14:35 AM
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This is also the method that I have heard a lot of people talk about. but really we need a cold head and very low capital to risk. Many times have advised me that you should only use $ 100 - $ 200 to deposit and start double trading. if we risk, we lose a little, but when we win, we win a lot. What do you think about this strategy?

Is that not called hedging of market or did I miss anything. I think is making open both buy and sell together. And we can make different profit from the orders.
But if this is called hedging as I'm saying, this is risky too.

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October 08, 2019, 11:45:33 AM
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No matter the method that anyone comes up with, it is best to just trade when the market is fully bullish except maybe such trader is a pro expert, I don't think that right now is the time to trade any coin, not even bitcoin, and this period is the best time to actually do more of holding as the coin is down right now.

Trading is generally risky man, which I don’t think anyone needs to be told to know that, but we can always learn to manage our risk and one of the way to manage risk that I know aside using of all these stop loss and take profit tool is to just trade when the market is fully bullish and not when it is bearish. I have divided my own activities into two, bearish time is the time to actually go for full accumulation, while bullish period is the time to go for full trading.

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