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October 05, 2019, 09:10:08 AM |
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https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1180165965071474688Also the site has been taken down already, everyone should be really careful accessing very sensitive site like trezor or ledger as there has been a target for hackers. I'm glad that it was taken down in less than 24 hours, but what if no one has reported this and people keeps falling for this kind of trick? So again, bookmark everything here and double check every site that you are going to access.
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chronicsky
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October 05, 2019, 09:54:26 AM |
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Thank you
Always bookmark your links and just use the official links for bank and wallet sites.
Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic
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o_e_l_e_o
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October 05, 2019, 11:12:53 AM |
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Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic https says nothing about a site's authenticity. What https means is that any data you send to the site is encrypted until it reaches the site, and so can't be intercepted by a third party. Any site can use https. It doesn't matter if the data you send to the scam site is encrypted en route, since there is a scammer receiving and decrypting it on the other end. Using https is essentially, but that alone will not protect you from being scammed. Manually checking for https is also a poor method, because at some point you will forget. Instead install the HTTPS Everywhere browser extension: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
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DdmrDdmr
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October 05, 2019, 12:28:15 PM |
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<…>Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic
Not really. In fact, I’ve seen a couple of surveys stating that at least half of the phishing attempts now use https, knowing well that it was interpreted (incorrectly) as a synonymous to the site being safe. This graphic depicts the surge in 2017 of https used on phishing sites, and how the trend is increasing (nearly) every quarter. source: https://securityboulevard.com/2019/06/more-than-half-of-phishing-sites-now-use-https/
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chronicsky
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October 05, 2019, 12:46:37 PM |
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Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic https says nothing about a site's authenticity. What https means is that any data you send to the site is encrypted until it reaches the site, and so can't be intercepted by a third party. Any site can use https. It doesn't matter if the data you send to the scam site is encrypted en route, since there is a scammer receiving and decrypting it on the other end. Using https is essentially, but that alone will not protect you from being scammed. Manually checking for https is also a poor method, because at some point you will forget. Instead install the HTTPS Everywhere browser extension: https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere<…>Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic
Not really. In fact, I’ve seen a couple of surveys stating that at least half of the phishing attempts now use https, knowing well that it was interpreted (incorrectly) as a synonymous to the site being safe. This graphic depicts the surge in 2017 of https used on phishing sites, and how the trend is increasing (nearly) every quarter. source: https://securityboulevard.com/2019/06/more-than-half-of-phishing-sites-now-use-https/My bad on vocab, meant https meant secure. And i always thought phising sites didn't had https but thanks for the information that even https is being used by them now. Haven't really came across a phising site in years, never click on them anymore, so... Thanks for the information guys
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October 05, 2019, 12:57:26 PM |
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And i always thought phising sites didn't had https but thanks for the information that even https is being used by them now. Haven't really came across a phising site in years, never click on them anymore, so..
If you make a phishing site, then you want it to look exactly the same as the original, so why do you think that whoever making a phishing site will not add SSL? Perhaps the price was one of the factors limiting this possibility before, but today any site can get SSL for free: https://letsencrypt.org/Are you sure that you did not visit any phishing site for years? Sometimes you can visit such site without doing any harm to you personally, all they want is your data, users' names/passwords.
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chronicsky
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October 05, 2019, 01:29:22 PM |
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And i always thought phising sites didn't had https but thanks for the information that even https is being used by them now. Haven't really came across a phising site in years, never click on them anymore, so..
If you make a phishing site, then you want it to look exactly the same as the original, so why do you think that whoever making a phishing site will not add SSL? Perhaps the price was one of the factors limiting this possibility before, but today any site can get SSL for free: https://letsencrypt.org/Are you sure that you did not visit any phishing site for years? Sometimes you can visit such site without doing any harm to you personally, all they want is your data, users' names/passwords. makes sense. well ofcourse can't be sure but yeah i haven't put my data anywhere like that. phising sites are pretty easy to avoid imo I have heard so many phising incidents between my friends that i always make sure to not put my data just anywhere. fun to teach them about the same as well So thanks again for the info about HTTPS encryption on phising sites now.
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smyslov
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October 05, 2019, 01:41:10 PM |
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Bookmark is our proven tool to land in a phishing site, so if you are not bookmarking and you do not have metacert installed you are in big trouble, make a habit always to bookmark or at least create a spreadsheet to all the sites that you are visiting. I seldom type on the search bar sometimes hackers are cloning the site and advertising it in adwords and make it appear the real one in thesearch results
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Orange Mango
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October 05, 2019, 08:03:08 PM |
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Ok this is scary. What is to stop someone buying these fake trezor and then selling them on a local amazon like market? Is there anyway to check if the device you have is real? This is disturbing to me. You have to be so careful just where you buy things from these days. I bought a ledger and I am thinking I have no idea if it could be a hacked ledger or something? This terrifies me.
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October 05, 2019, 09:16:47 PM |
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Ok this is scary. What is to stop someone buying these fake trezor and then selling them on a local amazon like market? Nothing, and indeed fake Trezor devices have previously been sold: https://blog.trezor.io/psa-non-genuine-trezor-devices-979b64e359a7Is there anyway to check if the device you have is real? I bought a ledger and I am thinking I have no idea if it could be a hacked ledger or something? Yes, there are ways to check that your Ledger is genuine. First of all, you should only be buying directly from Ledger themselves, or maybe from one of their approved retailers: https://shop.ledger.com/pages/retailers/ (although I would suggest just going direct to Ledger to minimize any middlemen). Secondly, when your device arrives, you should be following the instructions set out in their set up guide here: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002481534Verifying your Ledger device by connecting it to Ledger Live also serves as a check that it is genuine, as does updating it. There is currently no known exploit which would allow a fake or hacked device to verify itself against Ledger's server. Note that if you are planning to update your device, ensure you have your 24 word phrase backed up before you do.
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October 05, 2019, 09:29:41 PM |
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Always bookmark your links and just use the official links for bank and wallet sites.
Unless malware will replace them with malicious links. I know its very rare occurence but possible. Im not sure it was real reason this person that described it first lost his funds. This is worryfying for trezor owners, is it really secure? I hope so, but security is not about hope.
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October 06, 2019, 12:24:24 AM |
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Good suggestions! Even experienced members should stay updated with latest phishing news. They create malicious websites every day, and even if I don't use Trezor I saw same thing for Ledger and Electrum.
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October 06, 2019, 03:23:32 PM |
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Even if you bookmark the sites that you always use doesn't mean it's 100% safe because bookmarks could also be hacked the same as the clipboard when you copy and paste different that what you have copied. Even if you bookmarked the website you should also check the site if it is the correct one before doing what you want to do in that site.
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October 06, 2019, 05:46:18 PM |
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Damn, thanks for the warning. I always write the url myself to be sure that I'm accessing the real site. I never thought that I might make a typo and log in to a phishing one. Normally I double check what I type. I do not really like the bookmarks even though it's the safest way od browsing, you have to be logged in to have your bookmarks across different devices, which makes it quite unsecure for me.
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October 06, 2019, 06:06:20 PM |
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Damn, thanks for the warning. I always write the url myself to be sure that I'm accessing the real site. I never thought that I might make a typo and log in to a phishing one. Normally I double check what I type. I do not really like the bookmarks even though it's the safest way od browsing, you have to be logged in to have your bookmarks across different devices, which makes it quite unsecure for me.
Copy and paste the real link into a text document and keep copy on each device that should prevent most security and privacy issues because you are not logging into anything. You could password protect the document if you had a need to do that but I can't think of any reason you would want too. You could create a dummy account alternatively just for the purpose of sharing bookmarks or you can export bookmarks via your browser and import them into any device.
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October 09, 2019, 05:46:30 AM |
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Sometimes differentiating between true and fake websites is hard But using plugins like Metacert,Sentinel Protocol and others could alert one when he is about visiting a fake site
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October 10, 2019, 12:14:06 AM |
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<…>Do look up for https and secure connection (lock sign) to make sure the site is authentic
Not really. In fact, I’ve seen a couple of surveys stating that at least half of the phishing attempts now use https, knowing well that it was interpreted (incorrectly) as a synonymous to the site being safe. This graphic depicts the surge in 2017 of https used on phishing sites, and how the trend is increasing (nearly) every quarter. source: https://securityboulevard.com/2019/06/more-than-half-of-phishing-sites-now-use-https/I think it is partially cloudflare to blame for this. Someone with no knowledge of SSL certificates can easily make their site show a valid https certificate with the click of a button using cloudflare. They made it too easy.
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October 10, 2019, 05:45:35 AM |
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Thank man I see advertise of this website near 1 week ago. Now i see that this is scam. is there any websites where for example i can check all scams?
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