{Warning}: Fake Trezor.io website

[masulum]

Thank man
I see advertise of this website near 1 week ago. Now i see that this is scam. is there any websites where for example i can check all scams?

The best to do is you must check their domain name. There are lots of scam websites outside that we can't reported them All. But, if you know the real domain name/website of company, service, or project, etc. It will save you to be a victim of scammers. If that domain/website very strange for you, maybe you can check from google to find any scam website. Copy domain name, then type/paste it on google or other search engine services add your keywords with some words such as "scam, phishing, malware" or anything you want.

If it's related to crypto currency project, you can check atthis forum section lot of members reported scam project every day.

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[TryNinja]

I think it is partially cloudflare to blame for this.  Someone with no knowledge of SSL certificates can easily make their site show a valid https certificate with the click of a button using cloudflare.  They made it too easy.

Or Let’s Encrypt. You can literally spin a free SSL in 1 minute and with a single command. But this is something good and not an issue. Every single website in the earth should have it. That’s what puts a protection in the website against MITM attacks and someone sniffing the traffic.

SSL never meant “this website is legit”, this was just a false security thing. It was just more expensive to get one, but anyone still could get it if they wanted to.

[Zionatin]

Ok this is scary. What is to stop someone buying these fake trezor and then selling them on a local amazon like market?

Nothing, and indeed fake Trezor devices have previously been sold: https://blog.trezor.io/psa-non-genuine-trezor-devices-979b64e359a7

Is there anyway to check if the device you have is real?
I bought a ledger and I am thinking I have no idea if it could be a hacked ledger or something?

Yes, there are ways to check that your Ledger is genuine.

First of all, you should only be buying directly from Ledger themselves, or maybe from one of their approved retailers: https://shop.ledger.com/pages/retailers/ (although I would suggest just going direct to Ledger to minimize any middlemen).

Secondly, when your device arrives, you should be following the instructions set out in their set up guide here: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002481534

Verifying your Ledger device by connecting it to Ledger Live also serves as a check that it is genuine, as does updating it. There is currently no known exploit which would allow a fake or hacked device to verify itself against Ledger's server.

Note that if you are planning to update your device, ensure you have your 24 word phrase backed up before you do.

Thank you for such a good answer. I have no smerit to send you.
I bought my ledger off an online market. It is checked well and you have buyer protection. My ledger was sealed and everything and is real. Noone tampered with it. I have been using it for 2 years now.
I was just worried when I heard all this so thanks for clearing this up for me.

[Wexnident]

Bookmark is our proven tool to land in a phishing site, so if you are not bookmarking and you do not have metacert installed you are in big trouble, make a habit always to bookmark or at least create a spreadsheet to all the sites that you are visiting.
I seldom type on the search bar sometimes hackers are cloning the site and advertising it in adwords and make it appear the real one in thesearch results

I'd generally make a list of those sites that are used when accessing my wallet and making transactions through exchanges. I also would generally take note of tweets of the sites I often visit in case of various announcements and sometimes this can lead me to an early warning about scam sites that try to clone theirs. I also tried in the past writing the list of sites I use in my room posted in the wall, so I can make sure that I'm typing the right thing and not just following what the browser recommended site is.

[thefever333]

You need to immediately remember the site address, well, personally, I immediately remember and never come across a fake.

[Orange Mango]

Ok this is scary. What is to stop someone buying these fake trezor and then selling them on a local amazon like market?

Nothing, and indeed fake Trezor devices have previously been sold: https://blog.trezor.io/psa-non-genuine-trezor-devices-979b64e359a7

Is there anyway to check if the device you have is real?
I bought a ledger and I am thinking I have no idea if it could be a hacked ledger or something?

Yes, there are ways to check that your Ledger is genuine.

First of all, you should only be buying directly from Ledger themselves, or maybe from one of their approved retailers: https://shop.ledger.com/pages/retailers/ (although I would suggest just going direct to Ledger to minimize any middlemen).

Secondly, when your device arrives, you should be following the instructions set out in their set up guide here: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002481534

Verifying your Ledger device by connecting it to Ledger Live also serves as a check that it is genuine, as does updating it. There is currently no known exploit which would allow a fake or hacked device to verify itself against Ledger's server.

Note that if you are planning to update your device, ensure you have your 24 word phrase backed up before you do.

Just Quote for others to see ore easily. Thank you for replying to me. Sorry I took so long I was a bit busy this week. What you say makes sense and makes me feel better. I am glad. Once you have verified your ledger does that mean it is 100% safe. A tampered with ledger and cannot be messed with? I know the privatekey stays on the ledger but is there anyway it can be read by anyone? Including the ledger team? Or is it encrypted so well behind its protection that it cannot be?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Once you have verified your ledger does that mean it is 100% safe. A tampered with ledger and cannot be messed with?

There is no set up in the world which is 100% safe. There is an old saying:

The only truly secure system is one that is powered off, cast in a block of concrete and sealed in a lead-lined room with armed guards - and even then I have my doubts.

Once you have verified your Ledger, you can be as sure as possible that it is legit, has not been tampered with, and is safe to use. Thousands of users use Ledger devices, and as far as I am aware, there has never been a successful hack which didn't also involve the user doing something stupid.

I know the privatekey stays on the ledger but is there anyway it can be read by anyone?

Yes. As I said before, nothing is 100% secure. With a powerful enough electron microscope, the knowledge to use it, and enough time, you could extract the private keys or seed from the secure element. Is this possible? Yes. Is it likely? Absolutely not.

Provided you follow the proper steps when using your Ledger, the chances of someone else accessing your private keys are negligible. If you are still worried, then you should also consider using a passphrase which you manually set every time you use your wallet (known as a temporary passphrase, more information here: https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-Advanced-passphrase-security). Because neither the passphrase nor the seed it derives are stored on the device, they can't be extracted.

[Orange Mango]

Thank you for your answer. You are a very helpful member.
I think I will take advantage of the temp passphrase since my ledger is basically a cold wallet and I only deposit into it. Spending I just have a spending wallet which I use an app for since the QR scanning is awesome.

[Kakmakr]

I am not completely sold on the idea that people should trust their Bookmarks.    I have seen hackers changing the Url link in a Bookmark for some sites too. It will create a false sense of security, if you trust your Bookmarks too much.

I type all my short Url links and I never trust the "auto complete" feature, because that can be altered too. I even have a sticky note with the most used Url links pasted on my wall and written in my own handwriting to help me to type the correct address.

Be careful out there, we are getting attacked from all sites now.