Brave Browser to launch a fully decentralized vpn

[Bountyhonter]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

[AverageGlabella]

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

[mk4]

I really don't know how they're going to launch a "fully" decentralized vpn though. "Fully decentralized" is a huge buzzword that certain projects mindlessly throw around for marketing sake. And knowing that Brave's company is in the United States, it wouldn't be very surprising for them to require KYC like what they did with Brave rewards.

Though I'm hugely skeptical, time will tell. The Brave/BAT project is still better than majority of the altcoin projects out there so let's just see. At the mean time, I'll enjoy using existing VPN services that doesn't require that much information to submit.

[Wexnident]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

That just gives criminals a bigger platform to perform their crimes. The idea is great though since giving out a decentralized VPN system would guarantee anonymity for the entire usage, the process is still a little bit blurry since the project is still in its initial phase. It's just that there are still a lot of factors to consider like what I initially said about how criminals could use it as a platform to perform their illegal activities. It's still very difficult to judge it at the moment so I'd wait for more news about it since it is quite interesting.

[darkangel11]

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

You are on point. VPNs are available to all. You can find a free VPN service with ease or use a 30 day free trial option and switch to another VPN when the period is over.
The only downside of using a free VPN is that you don't know what they do with their logs. Paid services usually "guarantee" that they won't keep any logs.
Privacy is our right and the possibility if it being used in a bad way should never be used to deny us this right. Like we have the right to free speech and sometimes someone uses this freedom to lie and defame but the right remains and it should always be there.

[Artemis3]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

I'd rather use Tor, which can be done even from that browser. And with Tor, you have access to resources not found anywhere else, as people running Tor nodes can host their own content, away from the clear Internet. This content is free of censorship, because while its possible to detect Tor users, its impossible to determine what content is seen or provided by each particular Tor user.

Tor was designed for this specific purpose, while VPN is not. A VPN is not a privacy tool, and never was. You are using the wrong tool for the job, it might do it more or less, but not as good (think: hammering with a wrench).

And guess what? blockchain by itself DOES NOT guarantee anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact, it preserves your traces and prevents you or anyone else from erasing/changing them later.

Imagine if your browser used a blockchain to keep track of your history. Goodbye to clear history, ad marketers rejoice!

[partysaurus]

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

exactly! only becuse you dont want to get tracked on the internet does not mean you are into doing shady stuff or a pervert of some kind.
i have been using brave browser for 4 months now and i love it , this whole vpn thing only makes me love it more.

[Lucius]

What does this have to do with Bitcoin Discussion?

The truth is that VPN can protect us from being seen by ISPs about what we actually do on the internet, but if you do something really bad most VPNs will provide your information in case of a police/court request, by that I mean your real IP address. It is also wrong to think that Brave will not share our information with third parties, especially since it is a US company. Privacy in this country is just a dead letter on paper.

[yazher]

The advantage of this decentralized VPN is, we can now have double layer anonymity. this will make the brave browser the most anonymize browser of all time and this kind of browser is the most recommended for all crypto fans out there. they no longer need to worry about being hack because this two-layer anonymity will get the hacker to lose their hair trying to track your location. any trader will want to have this browser if they tired using TOR because sometimes TOR's browsing is so slow.

[ChrisPop]

If the Brave developers could pull this out it would be a huge feature that will attract even more users from the other conventional browsers like Chrome and Firefox. Opera is the only browser I know that has a VPN feature integrated, not decentralized though..

Most people are just looking for privacy. I've just seen a study that only 2% of bitcoin transactions are illegal. Not a big number in my opinion. I think more illegalities are done with cash.

[bitsurfer2014]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

I'd rather use Tor, which can be done even from that browser. And with Tor, you have access to resources not found anywhere else, as people running Tor nodes can host their own content, away from the clear Internet. This content is free of censorship, because while its possible to detect Tor users, its impossible to determine what content is seen or provided by each particular Tor user.

Tor was designed for this specific purpose, while VPN is not. A VPN is not a privacy tool, and never was. You are using the wrong tool for the job, it might do it more or less, but not as good (think: hammering with a wrench).

And guess what? blockchain by itself DOES NOT guarantee anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact, it preserves your traces and prevents you or anyone else from erasing/changing them later.

Imagine if your browser used a blockchain to keep track of your history. Goodbye to clear history, ad marketers rejoice!

Yes I was wondering what will happen with Brave's TOR feature if they got to implement it? I guess its either they will remove it or retain it since most users would prefer it over VPN and it could even result to public criticisms once they take out TOR altogether from Brave.

Now with their proposed decentralized crypto enhanced vpn system, I would assume they will integrate BAT token to it and  make the Brave ecosystem more easily to monetize and thus will encourage and stimulate the use of BAT token within the platform. This I think is a valid and unique use case I seldom see within the crypto industry.

[imstillthebest]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

I'd rather use Tor, which can be done even from that browser. And with Tor, you have access to resources not found anywhere else, as people running Tor nodes can host their own content, away from the clear Internet. This content is free of censorship, because while its possible to detect Tor users, its impossible to determine what content is seen or provided by each particular Tor user.

Tor was designed for this specific purpose, while VPN is not. A VPN is not a privacy tool, and never was. You are using the wrong tool for the job, it might do it more or less, but not as good (think: hammering with a wrench).

And guess what? blockchain by itself DOES NOT guarantee anonymity. Quite the opposite, in fact, it preserves your traces and prevents you or anyone else from erasing/changing them later.

Imagine if your browser used a blockchain to keep track of your history. Goodbye to clear history, ad marketers rejoice!

Yes I was wondering what will happen with Brave's TOR feature if they got to implement it? I guess its either they will remove it or retain it since most users would prefer it over VPN and it could even result to public criticisms once they take out TOR altogether from Brave.

Now with their proposed decentralized crypto enhanced vpn system, I would assume they will integrate BAT token to it and  make the Brave ecosystem more easily to monetize and thus will encourage and stimulate the use of BAT token within the platform. This I think is a valid and unique use case I seldom see within the crypto industry.

thanks for that info guys , i didnt know that brave browser has a built in tor feature  but i did already knew that brave has an anonymity feature before but i didnt know that if what kind of anonimity was that  . now if they are going to introduced this new vpn technology , what would happen to tor ? makes no sense to me on why they still add it or on why wil remove it ( if ever ) because what i know is that tor is more better and more anonymous that vpn's

[fiulpro]

It for sure sounds fishy , it would attract 90% criminals and scammers and then there would be a problem involving this , there is a reason why we need identification and all , that's because it helps controlling people who might not think good for the society and unfortunately the number runs High. , I do think that it is very essential to somehow give the freedom to people but also keep them in control and identification is necessary .

[buwaytress]

Yeah, really? I didn't know at all that blockchain guarantees anonymity. Could you please explain to me how I missed this out?

Is that why the silk road guys all got caught? Is it because they weren't actually using blockchain? You mean Bitcoin isn't enough, they had to blockchain their entire operations?

Brave gonna save the world with VPN right?

[cr1776]

Why does this always get brought up when discussing privacy? Privacy is a right and we should not limit our privacy just because criminals can use it to do what they do. The member above rightly said that cash also allows criminals to do things anonymously but that never gets brought to light.

This.

And the block chain does not guarantee anonymity.

And I don't know where the person who thinks you can't have more than $10,000 in cash lives, but that it not true in the US.

[Bountyhonter]

Yeah, really? I didn't know at all that blockchain guarantees anonymity. Could you please explain to me how I missed this out?

What i meant to say is that a Decentralised Vpn powered by blockchain will have more anonymity than a regular vpn

Is that why the silk road guys all got caught? Is it because they weren't actually using blockchain? You mean Bitcoin isn't enough, they had to blockchain their entire operations?

I don't know who the silk road guys are but i just googled them and i don't see how that relates to blockchain

Brave gonna save the world with VPN right?

I didn't say anything about Brave saving the world

[o48o]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

Yeah naturally even criminals use it, because they like use the services that actually work. I would be more concerned investing time on anything doing with privacy when criminals would avoid it. Also i am interested in following anything that contains zero-knowledge proofs.

[bitsurfer2014]

Brave has really good browser, I mostly use this browser and to my mind it has no competitors. So I think that brave will be developing more.
i use TOR in brave browser

Considering one of Brave's creator is also one of the founder of Mozilla, I would expect this browser to be fully equip with great features such as TOR and  VPN services but I don't think that it doesn't have any competitors since there are other browsers out there that are also worth mentioning such as Chrome, Firefox and Opera - all of which has excellent features and own style. The only downside with Brave is being based on Chromium technology where I think they could have easily made a new  browser from scratch.

But now, I think Brave is up one notch on this browser competition with their plan to integrate crypto into a VPN service not to mention its already  existing digital advertising ecosystem with BAT token. So I think this so called browser competition  is becoming more healthy and beneficial to end users as well.

[pixie85]

Good for them. I like how they're paying people for watching ads. They have a great business model and are really better than mainstream browsers. I hope they will succeed.

With VPNs it's not that easy to be good. You need good servers to handle the traffic and competitive prices. Free VPNs are usually awful and good ones are expensive. Brave's business model is to be as cheap as possible and help people. I wonder how they'll do with this new feature.

[Eugenar]

We all know that the blockchain itself guaranties anonymity on its own and now Brave browser want's to integrate it into a vpn service creating a fully decentralized virtual private network which means you don't have to be worried about your data being sold by the vpn providers.

However we all know that everything has a good and bad side and one of its disadvantages is that it gives people who perform illegal activities more freedom. What do you think about it? Do you think it's worth it or not?

Read full article here: https://decrypt.co/9937/brave-proposes-decentralized-crypto-enhanced-vpn

Brave are now taking some serious movements here, before it was just a referral system, later it was followed but blog posting using brave as well, now they are implementing VPN across the browser. My perception about it is that, brave will going to dominate  the altcoin bat, as well as the growth of BAT as well, as people around the world even with restrictions will be allowed to utilize BAT token into their benefits.