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October 06, 2019, 04:11:00 PM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 04:31:06 PM by Theb |
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What happened:: EARTHS who claims to give a Universal Basic Income for its participants provided a plagiarized whitepaper on their Github page while at the same time. They have also not provided any kind of team information ever since they have created their ANN thread. Scammers Profile Link: Hatch SupportKnown Affiliates: Earths TeamReference Link: ANN Thread [ Archived] Website [ Archived] Whitepaper [ Archived] FLAG LINK :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=827Additional Notes: Note # 1 : Plagiarized WhitepaperAlthough they have referenced other sources for their whitepaper not of the plagiarized content have been referenced because it came from another project namely WAVES which most of their content came from it. One of the worst plagiarisms I have ever seen in a whitepaper since they just basically replaced the words "WAVES/ WAVES platform" to "EARTHS/ EARTHS platform". You can see WAVES' whitepaper here (any direct links would be appreciated so I can replace my source). Example #1EARTHS Whitepaper WAVES Whitepaper Example #2 Even their footnotes are the sameEARTHS Whitepaper WAVES Whitepaper Example #3 Like I said there footnotes/reference links are the same and even their ending conclusionEARTHS Whitepaper WAVES Whitepaper Note # 2 : No TeamAside from their project having no team they have evaded answering the question several times already in their ANN thread and instead answer differently compared to the questions asked by other members. For a project that aims to provide financial support to it's participants but eagerly does not disclosed any of its team members is just really a big red flag. Hi,
Are there any links to the WhitePaper of the project? Also, please provide a picture of the team behind the project and integrate it to the website to validate its authenticity. Before you post any links directing to the website, please make sure to supplement all the important details for investors to read and observe.
Hi, This is more a social project. If you are interested in investing in it, you can purchase our tokens and lease them to the node, or you can create a node and lease tokens on your own or purchase them directly. We will take into account your wishes and create a whitepaper. what do you mean by a social project? and just like other crypto projects they always create a whitepaper so it can attract more people Before creating a project, the main goal was to help people. Profit extraction in this project is secondary for the team. It would be correct to say that the team is not focused on making a profit from this project. This TS opened more thread with different project name, seems that this one is similar to the others with different names that aims to collect money from those gulibles that would believe him. Sorry to say but more of the forum members are already doing their due dilligence and could not be easily lured into this kind of scheme.
Because we are one and the same Team, but the projects are different, therefore we use the same name. But we will ever separate and HATCH will be separate and EARTHS, IPU will be separate.
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Theb (OP)
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October 07, 2019, 08:06:01 PM |
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I also have created a flag for people who agrees with my findings on EARTHS project. The bottom line is this project aims to provide a universal basic income to its participants yet they have no team information, no addresses and contacts shown, as well as a heavily plagiarized whitepaper. This project recently woke up without any kinds of updates about the development of their project.
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October 07, 2019, 10:06:25 PM |
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I also have created a flag for people who agrees with my findings on EARTHS project. The bottom line is this project aims to provide a universal basic income to its participants yet they have no team information, no addresses and contacts shown, as well as a heavily plagiarized whitepaper. This project recently woke up without any kinds of updates about the development of their project. Flag supported. Whitepaper copy/paste. As I can see this Hatch Support guy created multiple ANN topics before for Hatch, Earths and International Payment Unit or Universal Basic Income
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October 08, 2019, 06:39:23 AM |
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Nice catch @OP!
That's the ridiculous idea by that scam team, to plagiarize something as well known as Waves whitepaper, and thinking that no one will notice it and that they could get away with it.
Just shows that average scam teams are actually not that clever at all and pretty lazy.
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October 08, 2019, 07:29:07 AM |
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Thanks for the time consuming investigation for revealing their cheap activities. I will suggest you to put the flag link on your main thread for making it much visible to thread visitors.
Flag supported from my end and hopefully it deserves more.
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October 08, 2019, 07:40:43 AM |
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This post has collected many reviews of scammers who claim that the Earths Team does not exist. We are the Earths Team, whitepapper Waves was taken as the basis because Earths fork Waves. White paper Earths has been updated with all the new information that is not in whitepaper Waves.
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October 08, 2019, 07:44:18 AM |
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What happened:: EARTHS who claims to give a Universal Basic Income for its participants provided a plagiarized whitepaper on their Github page while at the same time. They have also not provided any kind of team information ever since they have created their ANN thread.
This topic was created by a fraudster trying to harm the universal basic income program!
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Theb (OP)
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October 08, 2019, 04:37:33 PM |
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Thanks for the time consuming investigation for revealing their cheap activities. I will suggest you to put the flag link on your main thread for making it much visible to thread visitors.
Flag supported from my end and hopefully it deserves more.
Done, I actually have forgotten to edit my main post after creating a flag thank you for reminding it for me. What happened:: EARTHS who claims to give a Universal Basic Income for its participants provided a plagiarized whitepaper on their Github page while at the same time. They have also not provided any kind of team information ever since they have created their ANN thread.
This topic was created by a fraudster trying to harm the universal basic income program! Oh please, any legit project would have replied with a team info and a reason why they have a plagiarized whitepaper. In your case you are just blaming me for finding out the scam in your project.
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October 12, 2019, 06:15:13 PM |
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Regarding the negative feedback left by Hatch Support. Please point out where does it say that the Waves whitepaper is open source, and if so, why didn't you put a link in the reference section to ti, how it should be properly done? If you didn't mention where you copied the pieces of your whitepaper then for me this is again stealing
Why did you left me a false negative feedback, twice instead of defending your point? This is another warning sign that your intentions are not clear.
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October 13, 2019, 04:43:59 AM |
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Fraudsters who attacked the EARTHS project do not know what an open source project is. Also, scammers do not know that whitepaper can change and supplement. And the Earths fork, which is built on the source code of the Waves project (this information is open in the repositories of the Earths project), whitepaper is created on the basis of Waves. Therefore, those who claim that there are no differences in the source code of Earths and whitepaper Earths are liars and scammers. Because there are a lot of differences in the EARTHS source code and there are additions to whitepaper Earths.
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October 13, 2019, 03:36:06 PM |
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Fraudsters who attacked the EARTHS project do not know what an open source project is. Also, scammers do not know that whitepaper can change and supplement. And the Earths fork, which is built on the source code of the Waves project (this information is open in the repositories of the Earths project), whitepaper is created on the basis of Waves. Therefore, those who claim that there are no differences in the source code of Earths and whitepaper Earths are liars and scammers. Because there are a lot of differences in the EARTHS source code and there are additions to whitepaper Earths.
So instead of coming with facts you are coming with even more usless trust feedback accusations, very mature of you. This again is to show that you do not respect the community and you don't care to answer the questions we have raised. Again a confirmation of your shady behavior, well done.
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October 13, 2019, 04:29:36 PM |
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No team, plagiarism, random retaliatory feedbacks and nonsensical trust flags, yep, you are scammer. BTW, what happened with this "project" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170268.0? Page is not available, it says error 522. Another scam by earth team?
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October 13, 2019, 05:52:32 PM |
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No team, plagiarism, random retaliatory feedbacks and nonsensical trust flags, yep, you are scammer. BTW, what happened with this "project" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170268.0? Page is not available, it says error 522. Another scam by earth team? I was actually trying to monitor if they do have a exchange platform being offered here since there a Hatch Exchange account connected to Hatch Support and I was waiting for them to post an ANN Thread with that account before I tagged them so it really didn't crossed my mind to check up the past posts from Hatch Support with regards to there exchange. The website did worked for me though and I just used up the link they have provided in the OP, however upon checking if there is any trading activity going on you will see that this ain't an active crypto exchange platform since they literally have zero trading activity going on, they don''t even have bid and ask prices placed in their platform so I think this is a failed scam already.
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October 13, 2019, 07:08:31 PM |
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I was actually trying to monitor if they do have a exchange platform being offered here since there a Hatch Exchange account connected to Hatch Support and I was waiting for them to post an ANN Thread with that account before I tagged them so it really didn't crossed my mind to check up the past posts from Hatch Support with regards to there exchange. https://live.bezex.com> go to pricing Of course, it's a free script. That should normally turn away any possible traders, just like at ATM displaying and "activate windows" meesage
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October 14, 2019, 04:53:11 AM |
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Asking for passport scans while insisting on remaining anonymous. Not shady at all ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Your allegations of dishonesty on the EARTHS project are unfounded. Anyone can use the EARTHS and IPU coins at their discretion without any permission on our part or presentation of documents. The collection of passport data is carried out only for KYC verification and only for those wishing to participate in the program for receiving money (Universal Basic Income). We do not plan to disclose all stages in the KYC procedure because personal data is used. To reduce risks, the entire Earths Team is completely private. We protect ourselves from fraudsters and reserve the right to apply to law enforcement agencies in the event of submitting fake documents to receive money. We also reserve the right to hold liable for false accusations of the EARTHS project of fraud and compensation for losses and lost profits.
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October 14, 2019, 04:29:05 PM |
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I was actually trying to monitor if they do have a exchange platform being offered here since there a Hatch Exchange account connected to Hatch Support and I was waiting for them to post an ANN Thread with that account before I tagged them so it really didn't crossed my mind to check up the past posts from Hatch Support with regards to there exchange. ~snip~ https://live.bezex.com> go to pricing Of course, it's a free script. That should normally turn away any possible traders, just like at ATM displaying and "activate windows" meesage Yeah, they have a script of a crypto exchange platform and they only opt out for the free version that is why that blue tab is displaying above their website. Good thing it's there for other mbers to see and I think its one of the reasons why it has been avoided by potential users. But I won't be tagging them again because of it because there is no evidence that this is still an ongoing scam project given the lack of actvity in it, at least the name “Hatch” here in BCT would now be avoided by members.
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October 15, 2019, 04:10:23 AM |
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WARNING creator and those who support this post are SCAMMERS!
Many of the accounts involved in the attack on the Earths project and the universal basic income program have positive feedback from each other. They are trying to discredit the Earths project with false accusations of plagiarism and theft of intellectual property. All your scam accusations are false! Earths Team, although private, has not violated and will not violate any laws. The Earths project is a fork of the Waves project, so there is source code in it, documentation including whitepaper similar to the Waves project. Both projects are completely open, so anyone can use the source code and documentation as they wish (whitepaper is part of the documentation). Also, scammers are trying to strike at the protection of the Earths project - privacy. They are trying to make fun of the privacy of the Earths Team and discredit honor and dignity. Also, scammers are trying to strike at the Earths universal basic income project. They are trying to make fun of passport authorization and KYC in order to create multiple accounts and receive money.
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October 15, 2019, 04:26:43 AM |
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The only Scammer are you here ! creating wrong flags is the only thing you can do ! Any way its waste of time to write with you ! God thx for the ignore button , welcome to the list !
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So I went through the github for Earths. It's a fork of Waves. https://github.com/wavesplatform/Waveshttps://github.com/earthspay/EarthsPretty much all the commits since they forked it, except 1, are just replacing any mention of "Wave" with "Earths". Every variable, filename, directory, documentation etc. There was one commit called "fix" that caught my eye: https://github.com/earthspay/Earths/commit/4aaca912c9da5424b76499e8f957baec4e76c6fd![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Ff9b71dbde95bc421c0e92d1626556bc5.png&t=665&c=a8dSSmUTEuV8CA) So the only real technical change they made to the project was in this file: src/main/scala/com/earthspay/settings/Constants.scala The original file looked like this: package com.wavesplatform.settings
import com.wavesplatform.Version import com.wavesplatform.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "waves" val AgentName = s"Waves v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInWave = 100000000L val TotalWaves = 100000000L } They deleted that file, and replaced it with this one (notice the change in TotalEarths goes way up): package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 9223300000000000000L } Then they changed only the TotalEarths, deleting a few zeros: package com.earthspay.settings
import com.earthspay.Version import com.earthspay.utils.ScorexLogging
/** * System constants here. */ object Constants extends ScorexLogging { val ApplicationName = "earths" val AgentName = s"Earths v${Version.VersionString}"
val UnitsInEarth = 100000000L val TotalEarths = 92233000000L } So it looks like the only thing they were interested in changing was TotalEarths. My guess is that first they added too many zeroes and got an error, so they reduced it a bit with a new commit. I'm not familiar with the waves platform so I'll let someone else determine if this actually could be part of their scam.
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