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October 08, 2019, 09:16:44 PM |
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I'm going to contact some of the manufacturers on the forum. I'm absolutely adamant that this should stay within the community, and be manufactured by someone on the forum with a little bit of history. I definitely don't have the pulling power that theymos has that's for sure, but I'll see if I can make this project feasible. I'd love for something like this to happen, and I'm not prepared to wait for the 20th anniversary Good luck Welsh, would really be something if you manage to do this (seemingly with no help from theymos).
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Good luck Welsh, would really be something if you manage to do this (seemingly with no help from theymos).
Theymos has given his support, and told us reasons why he would not be putting in effort in this one, and really he has a lot to handle already on the forum. If the community can pull through with this, with the special efforts of a few, I think it'll be amazing and theymos would be proud. We are also here to help the community grow, and our collective efforts come in handy just as Theymos'.
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October 08, 2019, 10:07:07 PM |
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This would be awesome! I have selected 100 coins to make them unique and something to be collected. I really like the designs by Kialara so have voted for them meaning that this will be a community project I think unfunded coins is more realistic. I have selected paid by user but think a crowd funding would be better than selling them. If there is enough people to crowdfund this of course.
@Welsh maybe get the community to crowdfund the coins and those that have helped crowdfund would get a coin themselves that might give a incentive for getting this done. You could sell these with the permission of theymos.
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October 08, 2019, 10:13:48 PM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 10:33:17 PM by Welsh |
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Theymos has given his support, and told us reasons why he would not be putting in effort in this one, and really he has a lot to handle already on the forum. If the community can pull through with this, with the special efforts of a few, I think it'll be amazing and theymos would be proud.
We are also here to help the community grow, and our collective efforts come in handy just as Theymos'.
And if anyone wants to make this project reality don't hesitate to get in contact with me. I've already contacted the main 3 manufacturers listed on this thread, but have also asked for some help off the more prominent users in the collectible section to suggest alternatives. I'm not expecting a reply from a few of them due to inactivity, and not all of them if any will be interested in making custom coins. I'm really hoping I find someone on the forum to do this rather than an external manufacturer, and it seems the votes agree with that view. @Welsh maybe get the community to crowdfund the coins and those that have helped crowdfund would get a coin themselves that might give a incentive for getting this done. You could sell these with the permission of theymos.
I don't really want to publicly state that this is going to happen for obvious reasons. I'm testing the waters to see how viable for little old Welsh this would be. Ideally, I'd like to stick to the communities wishes for these coins, and if possible require no investment, but that would likely require negotiating a killer deal with the manufacturer. Crowdfunding could be a option, but I'd rather avoid selling these coins. At the moment the vote is winning for "paid for by forum funds" which I guess now translates to Welsh's funds. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) The issue with crowdfunding is that users will expect a coin, and I'm not sure whether that fits the criteria of receiving a coin. Its almost buying the collectible coin where the idea of this is to reward users who have made substantial contributions to the forum. I'm not sure how many users would be willing to crowdfund if there was no guarantee of getting a coin sent to them, and that sort of bias is something I'd like to avoid.
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October 08, 2019, 10:39:58 PM |
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I would love to see some Legendary set of coins with holograms of avatars of some of the oldest accounts. Like a bitcointalk history set.
I had an idea to make a set of plaing cards with some of the established members' avatars, but again lack or time is what stopped me.
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October 08, 2019, 10:40:35 PM |
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And if anyone wants to make this project reality don't hesitate to get in contact with me. I've already contacted the main 3 manufacturers listed on this thread, but have also asked for some help off the more prominent users in the collectible section to suggest alternatives. I'm not expecting a reply from a few of them due to inactivity, and not all of them if any will be interested in making custom coins. I'm really hoping I find someone on the forum to do this rather than an external manufacturer, and it seems the votes agree with that view.
Denarium might be a good person to contact. They seem pretty active and the have a contact link on their site (I'm happy to do this if you don't want to). Funded coins are definitely better than ones that aren't and a supply of 300 to 1000 is probably best also.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but I was thinking that a bitcointalk plaque could be made (at an expense of say $200) out of brass or pewter and given to a user for a certain number of merits (like the YouTube plaques) when we more commonly see people with 10000 merit it would be quite a nice way to go I think.
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October 08, 2019, 10:41:53 PM Last edit: October 08, 2019, 10:52:27 PM by Welsh |
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I would love to see some Legendary set of coins with holograms of avatars of some of the oldest accounts. Like a bitcointalk history set.
I had an idea to make a set of plaing cards with some of the established members' avatars, but again lack or time is what stopped me.
Don't make me pinch this idea too ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'd probably buy a set if someone did this. Honestly, if this project is feasible I don't think I want to pick the users who get it. I might request theymos to actually do that. After all, he's the one that's had more personal exchanges in the background. Denarium might be a good person to contact. They seem pretty active and the have a contact link on their site (I'm happy to do this if you don't want to). Noted, thanks for that. I'll see if they would be interested in a project like this. The 3 listed in the OP would likely be my first choices as long as we can strike a good deal, but I have a feeling I'll need some backups. Not sure if this has been mentioned but I was thinking that a bitcointalk plaque could be made (at an expense of say $200) out of brass or pewter and given to a user for a certain number of merits (like the YouTube plaques) when we more commonly see people with 10000 merit it would be quite a nice way to go I think.
That's actually a neat idea. Again, it doesn't really mean anything if it hasn't got the stamp of approval from theymos to be official.
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October 08, 2019, 10:42:09 PM |
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I would like to see as many as possible (so I have a chance of getting one!) I am fine with any of the artists - have seen coins from all of them and they all do great jobs. I like the idea of funded ones but would buy one unfunded as well.
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October 08, 2019, 10:52:31 PM |
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I would love to see some Legendary set of coins with holograms of avatars of some of the oldest accounts. Like a bitcointalk history set.
I had an idea to make a set of plaing cards with some of the established members' avatars, but again lack or time is what stopped me.
Don't make me pinch this idea too ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I'd probably buy a set if someone did this. Just think about it, poker's set with hystory figures like Hal, Satoshi, theymos, sirius.. A full set of current legendaries. The set of scammers, magicaltux, tf, mt.gox etc. Oh I have soo many ideas, bitcointalk ties... I have to stop
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October 08, 2019, 11:36:00 PM |
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Casascius would be amazing and my choice but I can't imagine he'd want anything to do with anything funded or even anything that had the possibility of being funded.
I also reckon many people will go weird about opsec even with PO boxes and stuff.
If users were to pay for them I'd only run it on a pre sale basis as lots of people get enthusiastic at the time and then bugger off if there's actual money required.
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October 08, 2019, 11:43:11 PM |
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Casascius just carries a good name inside the Bitcoin collectibles market, and definitely has had more exposure than most other manufacturers. Plus, has already contributed with historic pieces in the past. I've contacted him on the off chance that he would be interested. I know that Casascius wouldn't be interested in funded coins since he ceased making these back in 2013? However, due to the recent news these likely won't be funded, at least without requiring the user to pay for it. If users were to pay for them I'd only run it on a pre sale basis as lots of people get enthusiastic at the time and then bugger off if there's actual money required.
Ideally, that would be the plan if it did require users to pay. I feel like we'd miss out on a lot of important users of the forum which I think deserve something like this due to the payment though. It just feels weird to go up to someone, and be like "Hey, you are eligible for this, but you have to pay"
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October 08, 2019, 11:51:49 PM |
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I've contacted him on the off chance that he would be interested. I know that Casascius wouldn't be interested in funded coins since he ceased making these back in 2013?
He released the Bitcoin Bowl commemorative coin out of the blue in late 2014 a year after he shut himself down when Fincen got heavy so he has at least done it once. It would be a coup to get him back in action. I feel like we'd miss out on a lot of important users of the forum which I think deserve something like this due to the payment though. It just feels weird to go up to someone, and be like "Hey, you are eligible for this, but you have to pay"
There is a little bit of a precedent for this. NEM planned to give silver coins to its original stakeholders. It was decided to do it when the price got high enough and funds were put aside to pay for it all. There was so much squabbling about design, how to post them and who would make them that it kind of slipped away and went quiet. The funds haven't moved to this day and no one knows what to do with them so it's become a full on millstone. I would advocate decisiveness.
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October 09, 2019, 05:55:43 AM |
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I would advocate decisiveness.
Yup, the "how" part is almost cosmetic. If anything is to be done, the ones that can, should act. Tick-tack... Maybe a design "fair" would be a first step?
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October 09, 2019, 06:49:57 AM |
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I would go with Design chosen by theymos as of course he should get the privileges of choice, due to the blockbuster moderation of the forum he is doing from years !
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October 09, 2019, 07:38:24 AM |
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Who gets the coins?
I vote that anyone that has made a collectable should have to opportunity to buy one. Like me ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 09, 2019, 07:54:55 AM |
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bitcoinpenny.com 300 silver - paid by user. MAX 1 each. Coins not sold will not be minted. 1 gold - funded by silver coin buyers. And FREE raffle between all silver buyers. Design chosen by community competition
edit Unfunded
edit 2: Why? - because then it will be done. They can do it and they can handle it. How? - the design should be 2-3 designs with inspiration from the suggestions on forum. And we vote a week for the winner design. Could probably happen this year if we act fast.
edit 3: Distribution, payment etc by minerjones. Because he is the man to do it.
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October 09, 2019, 08:09:56 AM |
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I just want to say that the coins should IMO be funded. It's Bitcoin! What sense does it make to not include any bitcoins on an item when it would be possible?
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October 09, 2019, 08:24:41 AM |
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I just want to say that the coins should IMO be funded. It's Bitcoin! What sense does it make to not include any bitcoins on an item when it would be possible?
Clearly the most interesting. But never think it will be made then. Legal issues, arguing about privatkeys, arguing about load value will probably end with notting.
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October 09, 2019, 08:31:01 AM |
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Non-funded, to prevent any fuckups no matter how trusted the designer is.
Community poll for the design, democracy is most of the time is a good idea
300 coins, let's make more people happy
Personal certificate, feeling like a special snowflake feels good
Paid by, forum funds would be good but i can pay myself too. I ticked both
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October 09, 2019, 08:52:39 AM |
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If the coin is not made of valuable metal, then its value should be several tens of cents. The larger the circulation of the issue, the lower its cost. Therefore, everyone can buy it at cost.
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