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October 09, 2019, 05:59:06 PM
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What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.

Still @ 1:1.

No difference at all whatever the USD value of it and he will play on a crypto gambling site. John will gamble his bitcoin at the same quantity when he bought it.

Honestly, it's way wiser for me to gamble during a bear market where coins are fairly cheap, only if I will start at the scratch meaning from my fiat to bitcoin. Of course, this is not applicable to those coins who bought at a higher price, although there is no difference at all using those in gambling, at least for me. John on that case should extend his patience no matter what.

He will just lose if a) he loses all the BTC in gambling, obviously b) he sold it for a lower price.


If I am in his shoes and losses his Bitcoin in gambling because it's gambling and there's no guaranty of winning than holding your coins, I will be very frustrated, Bitcoin is not on it's way to bubble to gamble it away, majority of us will advise you not to gamble it and only gamble what you can afford to lose but not to lose everything you have.
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October 09, 2019, 06:04:05 PM
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In such circumstances John only has 2 choices. First he has lost the value of Bitcoin and holding must also require a long time to restore its value. And the second way is betting, betting there are also two choices. In order to reduce the loss at the beginning or bet and eventually lose it all. So betting in this case the risk is very high, even losing all the bitcoin you bought at $18k
He is very impatient and can't wait for the next all-time high to gamble your Bitcoin, it's double jeopardy if he loses all his Bitcoin, he should just extend his patience to the fullest, he can lend his Bitcoin, other people are now selling everything they have I know some people, to buy Bitcoin because of the ETF approval and the next halving, so stuff yourselves with good news and hope.

Emotions are biggest problem in gambling even over patience also not good in gambling. If you are good in analysing the game you can stay in gambling or you can move out of gambling industry which is better for you.
If you see the value in cryptocurrency nothing is bigger value while you are on bear market.
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October 09, 2019, 06:11:14 PM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.
If I was in his place I would find something more safer than risking it all and depending on luck.
Since he already lost more than half of his money why wouldn't he look for a solution this is more of a suicide if you'll ask me.
There are other ways not just gambling he bought it to earn not to gamble so why not try to learn something more important rather to cry on his lost.
We have trading surely he could manage to pull it off if he could get a proper guidance on how to trade.

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October 09, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
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Well, that is was his decision. Probably he thinks that better to gamble than to sell his bitcoin holding. Due to his impatient, he putting himself self to risky stuff and make things worst. But upon on this crossing the risk if he going to succeed it might be doubled his bitcoin hold. Indeed, it is very risky but who knows he will be made it and won on gambling that he made choice. But the fact is nothing's lost with him, still @1:1 ratio.









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October 09, 2019, 06:24:30 PM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.
I would probably hold instead and wait for the price to increase a bit more to recoup my losses. If I actually started betting, that would make it seem like that the coin I had is the same as others. Technically speaking, it is. But the price of myncoinwas 18000 while the coin id be receiveing would just amount to be around 4000$. This just shows further the mistakes I made so I'd rather hold instead,

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October 09, 2019, 06:41:35 PM
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The obvious point is dont store large personal amounts of BTC on a casino over a long time.  I've done the opposite and accidentally left a small amount for like almost half a decade and didnt mind that mistake because it went up in value but the initial value wasnt anything much so it didnt matter.   I dont advise doing the opposite and hoping everything works out, its a needless risk just deposit what you intend to use in the next week is a fair take and not too much hassle to do.

  As for the scenario do I take more risk while in a bear market, I think I do because its there to be used.   I would guess more volatility in a bear market, people want to use not store the basic BTC so much and that'd include putting it through some betting tables.

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October 09, 2019, 10:14:02 PM
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The mindset you should always be in is lost money's lost and whatever you're making after a loss is just profit and you're not trying to make back what's been lost. It sucks to lose money, but it sucks more to lose it all instead of losing a certain percentage of what you invested. I'd actually just cut losses in this scenario and keep whatever's left and maybe sell off some of the coins, though I'd prefer to keep at least a bit of coin for when prices rise back up again. Bitcoin's great and you've got a great chance of making money with it, but at some point you need to just cut losses.

Don't gamble things away especially if you cannot afford to lose that money, though you shouldn't be investing money you can't afford to lose in the first place.
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October 09, 2019, 10:19:12 PM
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if we are already in the bear market and the price just stays there then i dont think its risky but i actually think that its more easier for me to to transfer and spend my coin inside the gambling platform but if i were on the scenario on the topic i will understand that bitcoins are volatile so ill accept whatever price it ends after purchasing some  . if my goal is to gambling , i will still gambling   . status of the market wont stop me for my agenda  .
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October 09, 2019, 10:25:30 PM
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That isn't true even not in the bear market gambling is very risky way oas source of income just play gambling for haing fun. john experience a lot of loses is because he buy bitcoin at high price value then, he want to goes back the loses for quick using gambling of course possible to double the money and possible to goes back their loses but the risk is possible to loses all their bitcoin because gambling is the play of winning and loses.
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October 09, 2019, 10:28:54 PM
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The mindset you should always be in is lost money's lost and whatever you're making after a loss is just profit and you're not trying to make back what's been lost. It sucks to lose money, but it sucks more to lose it all instead of losing a certain percentage of what you invested. I'd actually just cut losses in this scenario and keep whatever's left and maybe sell off some of the coins, though I'd prefer to keep at least a bit of coin for when prices rise back up again. Bitcoin's great and you've got a great chance of making money with it, but at some point you need to just cut losses.

Don't gamble things away especially if you cannot afford to lose that money, though you shouldn't be investing money you can't afford to lose in the first place.
Come to think that those coins are still intact even if the usd value had decreased but the amount of bitcoin hasn't so it will just matter if he would just simply hold and wait up for recovery because cutting losses on these prices will cost you 60-70% I guess and making gambling as an option for recovery is just really a stupid mistake to make.
We know on how risky gambling is and chances that you wont see your bitcoins or coins ever in your hands.

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October 09, 2019, 10:53:53 PM
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I wouldn't want to gamble with my Bitcoin when the price is really decreased or dipped.
I rather gamble with altcoins or buy a sudden Bitcoin for gambling than use the ones I have before. Or better still, pause on gambling till a price pump.
So even if I gamble lower or higher, losing a Bitcoin in a gamble in a bear market can painful.
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October 09, 2019, 10:54:59 PM
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I wouldn't add more risk with the losses that I have. The thing is it's the bitcoin price that decreases and not the quantity of bitcoin you hold. I prefer to hold it until the price goes high. I'll just make the situation complicated if I do gamble with the losses that I have. There's still a chance to recover by taking it to the level of being calm without doing anything. And losing as you gamble is a different thing, so if I'm already in a lose with my holdings, I'll exert effort of buying more instead just like the usual trader and investor advice.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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October 09, 2019, 11:16:12 PM
Last edit: October 09, 2019, 11:32:17 PM by Ailmand
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.

You are betting an amount of bitcoin which you already had since the bull market. For me as long as you haven't cashed out your bitcoin you are not losing anythig yet. You might see it as a loss if you will look at it at the current fiat value. However, since the bitcoin price is down, you will have to bet more bitcoin to gain more fiat value as a reward and I will agree that would put you in more risk.

One of the reasons why I think gambling activities are lesser when the price is down.

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October 09, 2019, 11:45:15 PM
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I understand the long wait but gambling your Bitcoin because of impatient, is like giving it away, there's a 50-50 chance of the outcome but you must understand the house edge, and the ratio of bettors who losses in gambling, only proceed when you think of the consequences, do not let emotion gets the better you, it's a game between emotion and sound judgement.

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October 09, 2019, 11:46:44 PM
 #35

What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.

I think you have a chance to recoup and make a profit much less than to lose everything. It depends how much you are a gambler and whether you can stop in time. If you decide to start, I would recommend betting small amounts at the beginning.
Better wait some more time.
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October 10, 2019, 01:14:28 AM
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Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.

Gambling is never been an option when we do talk about breaking even with our investments because if you do? Then expect the chances on having some deep losses or the worst you would lost all of the money you do had.You already lose due to volatility and you decided to gamble because you do like on atleast to break even?
What a wrong mindset we do have here,never ever consider gambling to work on that way because it will just worsen up the situation.
That is true sir gambling is never be an option to get your loses in bitcoin. Maybe you are lucky now in gambling. But not everytime you are lucky so be wise you can trade or you can use your money in a good business than to gamble. You can not lucky everytime so once you lose again your money in gabling what you do next?  Better to think first before you do a decision.
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October 10, 2019, 01:30:41 AM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.
If bitcoins were bought for the purpose of holding why bother with gambling them to grow your account???

As far as I know crypto value is constantly changing, it's never fixed so such change is inevitable and if I was John I would stop looking at my account balance or btc price for a while if price fell that bad.
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October 10, 2019, 02:25:02 AM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.
Gambling with bitcoin or even alternative coins doesn’t care about the value of each coins because we Bet with the volume of crypto and not the value of this,for me I will do the same because at the least as the market continue to fluctuate it will be harder to expect from the pump so make your own way of earning and that is by gambling,but I will not bet with huge amount every roll instead I will take my time to enjoy than to focus on earning because greediness will result to another failure so why not just be happy and play

I understand the long wait but gambling your Bitcoin because of impatient, is like giving it away, there's a 50-50 chance of the outcome but you must understand the house edge, and the ratio of bettors who losses in gambling, only proceed when you think of the consequences, do not let emotion gets the better you, it's a game between emotion and sound judgement.
It’s not being impatient,it is looking for another way of profiteering since this market offers many sides to profit and not just by Holding.gambling offers us the chance so why not grab in some cases?as long as you will play with good attitude surely chances of winning is always there









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October 10, 2019, 03:00:36 AM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.

@GreatArkansas if I were John who had already lost money due to the fall in prices, I would not be comfortable to gamble all my coins. At this stage I would plan out how many Satoshis can I afford to loose, and what scenarios would require me to have cash in hand and after planning for all possible scenarios I would start gambling again. It’s pertinent to note that I would not gamble all my Satoshis in one go, if I’m having a bad day I’ll stop to gamble and try my luck some other day.
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October 10, 2019, 03:10:46 AM
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What's your thought about this?

I have a scenario for this topic:

John bought Bitcoins when at the price of $18,000 and decided it to HODL.
But after he bought some Bitcoin, the price is starting to decrease, from $18,000 to $10,000 and to $4,000.
So,he already lost his money for almost 50% and he decided to gamble his Bitcoins;

Here's the thing, if you are John and start to gamble, would you bet with high risk (betting with huge amount, betting in low chance of winning, etc)?

Since if it was me, I already lost a lot when I even bought those Bitcoins at $18,000 so the best thing I can do is to gamble it and earn more bitcoins to decrease my loss or breakeven it.

What can you say about this? Or maybe you already experienced this.
If bitcoins were bought for the purpose of holding why bother with gambling them to grow your account???

As far as I know crypto value is constantly changing, it's never fixed so such change is inevitable and if I was John I would stop looking at my account balance or btc price for a while if price fell that bad.
Simple reason “Impatient” mate and that only prove that the said person don’t deserve to HODL because of not having attitude of waiting.the big problem is if he’s losses all in gambling then where do he begin again?

Yeah gambling and investing are both risky but we must always remember of what’s the main goal when we enter and out our money here

If we’re for HODL then close you eyes for the market prices and indicate the exact time of withdrawal.so you will not be affected of the fluctuations in which mostly the reason of panicking

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