Tokenpay Scammed $350,000 bounty payment..

[ScamViruS]

Website:- https://www.tokenpay.com
Ann Thread:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2400499.0
Bounty Thread:- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2403706.0
Bounty Manager:- jamalaezaz
Archive Ann:- http://archive.is/GkypR
Archive Bounty:- http://archive.is/HOqix

Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/

Coinmarketcap:- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/

The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now. Bounty payment amounts  100,000 Tpay Coins = $350,000.
jamalaezaz has made the ann thread Scam Accusation to save himself ( my opinion)  That accusation indicates that jamalaezaz is more busy with his referral commission then bounty payments. There is no exact information on who and how many people are involved in this bounty scam. I think jamalaezaz's extra greed has caused this situation.

More shocking information is that jamalaezaz have locked up Ann and Bounty both threads. People are not able to give their opinion and get no update about tokenpay scam.
Why did jamalaezaz lock the threads? What was the problem with public opinion?

Evidence from jamalaezaz's side.

Excuse 1: Participants Wallets
Tpay is a coin on it's own Blokchain. it is not an ERC or top of any other Blockchain Token. so before ICO start and Bounty Start time there was not any Wallet Available/Launched, We clearly asked Derek and Johny About this and they agreed and asked us to collect every users email addresses at the time of joining so they could pay their payments directly to their wallets at the end of bounty program. but at the end of Bounty program they suddenly changed their minds and asked me for wallet addresses.. I told them that the wallets was not available at the time of members joining bounty program and the agreement was to make their payments in their ICO dashboard. but they didn't listen to that and put me again to collect everyone wallets.
if they wanted they could easily deposit everyone's Bounty payment to each participants ICO dashboard as initial agreement. but they started this Wallet Collection bullshit. which cause a long till (even till today still all participants not submitted their wallets)


Excuse 2: Re-auditing / Double checking Bounty Participants
when Bounty program ended and we entered in distribution phase. Derek changed his mind to accept the spreadsheet My team have prepared and decided to reject my  checking and counting and do another checking and counting by himself. he delayed that re-audit for 2 months and then at the end he put Danny on the re-audit work after two month of time. lots of actives which were done by bounty participants. were removed from their places. (medium, steemit, tweets, shares etc) and lots of them got rejected again.

Excuse 3: Stake System
When the Campaign Started, Johny and Derek Chose to Go with Stake system.. Everyone know about Stake system can confirm how it works.. in Stake system the bounty allocation will be fixed to a specific amount and then that specific amount divided among all participants. no matter if the participants are 100 or 10,000 at the end.. even if a person get disqualified at some point, that participants stakes and tokens will be divided into other participants. this is how stake system bounty program work which was chosen by Johny and Derek them selves. for Blog and media bounty I advised them to go for a fixed pay rate system. but they refused that advise and insist me to continue with stake system..
then when the bounty program finished Derek started a baseless re-audit thing which ended up with a lot of disqualification (mentioned above).. but they decided to not pay the tokens of disqualified users into the rest of qualified users (according to the terms o stakes system), they said everyone will get whatever they've got in my first calculation. (they rejected my calculations and decided to run a re-audit but the allocations I've assigned to each participates they did not agree to change that)  I tried a lot to explain them that they cannot do that. but they did not listen that . so I had to remove them from the bounty spreadsheets and locked the sheets so they do not make any copy for that.. after that they totally opened up and clearly said they'll not pay anything to me and bounty participants..

According to them after locking the spreadsheets, I've violated the initial Bounty management agreement. while they've violated the agreement almost 6 times till that time.. (I'll show everything in the screenshot evidence)

Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.

Exchange list





I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.

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[TheNewAnon135246]

Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.

[Sirait]

Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!

Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.

Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/

[jhenfelipe]

The tokenpay bounty ended years ago. But Bounty Hunter did not receive their payment still now.

The problem is, bounty hunters will not get anything from them, even in the future.


Since you shared jamalaezaz's side, I'd share Tokenpay's side too. This was posted on Telegram:

BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:31]
[Forwarded from Deleted Account]
Danny Community Manager:
We apologise most sincerely but the Bounty program has been cancelled. The company that TokenPay contracted to run the bounty program is run by Jamal (Jamalaezaz). We have been waiting for weeks for Jamal to respond to us, and eventually after sending the necessary information working diligently for further weeks to try to understand the data. This has cost us thousands of dollars in manpower auditing the spreadsheet that he sent. Unfortunately, we have discovered that over 70% of the addresses on the spreadsheet are fraudulent and belong to or entered by Jamal himself or his team. Also after confronting him he blocked us from all sheets and he closed the bounty thread. Therefore, as he violated our contract we are cancelling the bounty and we will not be continuing with the bounty distribution. We strongly recommend that you do not participate in any future bounty programs run by Jamal.

Danny and the rest of the team have spent days trying to sort out the mess left by Jamal but the state of affairs is such that we cannot, in fact, act upon the bounty. We very much appreciate that this is unfair to all those valued members of the Tokenpay community who engaged honestly with the bounty program, our team tried everything that could be done to rectify this issue. As one, we are feeling betrayed by Jamal. He has forced us to take steps which have resulted in members of our community not being rewarded for their honest, hard work. This is a step we do not take lightly, but given the circumstances it is a necessary one. This pains us greatly, and we appreciate your continued support in this matter.
Please see below for links which highlight some of the dubious activity:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2728591.msg27929630#msg27929630
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2695084.msg27537874#msg27537874
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3149900.msg32558293#msg32558293

BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:33]
because 70-80% of the address entry by Jamal did not match the people that submitted the address (we checked their profile, some dont have it, some have it but not match)

BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:35]
No, we cancel it since Jamal scam, we do not know who did what and what address is legitimate since they're all mismatch.

BAO 🚀✔️, [06.05.18 09:36]
examplwe can pay 100% according to that list and 80% of the participant will never get the coins since it will go to some random address (probably jamals and hsi crew)

There have been a lot of bounty issues in the past, campaigns managed by jamalaezaz. Considering that, I don't think it's a good idea to still join any of his campaigns.

(PS: I'm not in any way connected to jamalaezaz, Tokenpay, and Tokenpay Bounty program.)

[dkbit98]

They have this new exchange called eFin and it is connected with Tokenpay.
Can you also examine it and include more information  in this topic?

Thank you

[ScamViruS]

They have this new exchange called eFin and it is connected with Tokenpay.
Can you also examine it and include more information  in this topic?

Thank you

Added.
Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/

[ScamViruS]

Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.

I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?

[TheNewAnon135246]

Did you participate in their campaign? If so you can open a scammer flag.

I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?

Most exchanges are only interested in listing fees.

[dkbit98]

What is weird in all this Tokenpay situation is the fact that
Litecoin Foundation is partnered with them, as well as BankAG and other projects.
I think that I also saw some interviews with them and Charlie Lee...

[JeromeTash]

Really sucks when such projects waste people's time. The least thing they would do is at least pay them the worthless tokens. It shows us how people are so greedy and dishonest in the planet... These are the people making cryptospace look so ugly.

I took time to check out their token charts and guess what?
It's taking a hit and going nowhere anyway



A token that was about 8 USD about a year and a half ago is now 0.14 USD. Total 24 hour volume is just 5 BTC across all the exchanges it trades 
Typical shitcoin.

[robelneo]

Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!

Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.

Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/

After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him, this is very unfortunate for bounty hunters I almost participated on that campaign but I'm other good campaigns I support flag that will be created for the project if they have created one and posted here.

[uray]

I was not participate to the tokenpay bounty. I opened this thread to remind the tokenpay team that they are scammer. Tokenpay are listed on many exchange. Does exchanges not see tokenpay Bitcointalk ann thread before listing ?

If you are ready to shell out some money then any exchange will list your coins, you can even create your own coin and pay them and these exchanges will be glad to accept and list them and jamalaezaz is already tagged as a scammer here and i am not sure why people are still joining his campaigns and how come these projects are giving him the mantle to promote them says it all.

After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him,

People are still joining his campaigns even having a flag, if he does not get any users to promote the project he will come up with other accounts to promote those. I invested in some of the projects these scammers posted and lost some money and hence i am against all these projects.

[bassbity]

Jamalaezaz reputation is very bad, many projects that have been dealt with end badly. I don't trust him anymore. I don't know how he chose the ICO project, did he not filter first!!

Tokenpay are being traded on many exchange.
I thought this topic should be discussed again so I opened this thread. Because tokenpay is still in the market.

Tokenpay listing on Coinmarketcap too https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/

After this, I don't know if Jamalaezaz will be hired as bounty manager and if he manages one I don't know if he can attract bounty hunters to work with him, this is very unfortunate for bounty hunters I almost participated on that campaign but I'm other good campaigns I support flag that will be created for the project if they have created one and posted here.

Jamalaezaz is no longer trusted as a Bounty Manager because he has cheated and made himself lucky, if only Jamalaezaz manages the bounty then the hunters will no longer believe, and now Jamalaezaz is a bounty hunter to other campaigns.

[game-protect]

What is the name of the company that operates www.tokenpay.com?

Tokenpay has launched an exchange called https://www.efin.com/

efin.com publishes a bunch of photos and names of participants, for what are the victims waiting?

[marcotheminer]

Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.

[actmyname]

Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammedI the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.

Is it any surprise that the ICO listing price is neither stagnant nor rising, but rather is always dumped?

[marcotheminer]

Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammedI the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.

Is it any surprise that the ICO listing price is neither stagnant nor rising, but rather is always dumped?

For TPAY or in general? Some ICO's have had decent returns, but I would guess that if you had bought every single ICO (apart from the obvious scams) you'd be in the red.

[mr.dash]

TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec

[ScamViruS]

Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.

We are not thinking about the value of it now. They did not give the bounty payment they were supposed to pay. Not worth seeing now, because the team is a scammer. The tokenpay price were even higher when they scammed. I think the $770k scam is right.

TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec

Their team scammer proved, when they did not pay the bounty payment.

[marcotheminer]

Is it fair to say that they scammed 770k when the value of those 110k tokens are roughly 2 BTC now? You can say they scammed the 110k tokens yes, but assigning a USD value (of their peak price) seems wrong.

We are not thinking about the value of it now. They did not give the bounty payment they were supposed to pay. Not worth seeing now, because the team is a scammer. The tokenpay price were even higher when they scammed. I think the $770k scam is right.

TPAY is a real scam and they still try to make some more money very sad to see LTC team up with this fake team this project will dead soon so beware and don't invest in this fraud project I lost lots of my money in this scam since started in 2017 dec

Their team scammer proved, when they did not pay the bounty payment.

You should instead focus on the coin number - 110k was scammed. At best, you could use the average exchange price during the first week of trading or the original "sold-for" ICO price (if any).