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October 10, 2019, 04:57:19 PM |
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I hope that Turkey is going to be destroyed after this massacre which does without a reason. Erdogan drops bombs towomen and kids - he hits the root of terrorism..... Apart from that, he helps ISIS gain more power as the Kurds was a strong Barrier and stopped the ISIS dominance. He just started this invasion in order to strengthen the migrant waves and push pressure to Europe.
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This is the start of what will ultimately become a by-force destruction of Islam. It might not be easy, but when Turkey disappears, we might be able to rename what's left of Istanbul into Constantinople, or maybe even Byzantium... names it held in the past. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 10, 2019, 07:10:17 PM |
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This is the start of what will ultimately become a by-force destruction of Islam. It might not be easy, but when Turkey disappears, we might be able to rename what's left of Istanbul into Constantinople, or maybe even Byzantium... names it held in the past. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Such a cool names for the desert wow
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October 10, 2019, 07:27:10 PM |
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Nothing related to Islam . The plan from the beginning 2011, called also the arabic spring, was to divide the syrian territory as the syrian people is already devided into many sectes and tribes. Great divisions are inside the islamic majority of people, (sunnah,shiaa,alawi,ismaili,...) so there happened a call up for criminels ISIS to invade territory but they failed establishing a real governance due to many reasons. Now i think it's time to use an organised army to complete the mission. Turquia is responsible for all misery happened to the Syrians during the last decenny.
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October 10, 2019, 08:55:52 PM |
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This is the start of what will ultimately become a by-force destruction of Islam. It might not be easy, but when Turkey disappears, we might be able to rename what's left of Istanbul into Constantinople, or maybe even Byzantium... names it held in the past. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Such a cool names for the desert wow A spot in the desert that has water on two sides, and a canal going right through the middle. With a total population of around 15 million residents in its metropolitan area, Istanbul is one of the world's most populous cities, ranking as the world's fourth largest city proper and the largest European city - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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October 11, 2019, 12:46:38 PM |
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I hope that Turkey is going to be destroyed after this massacre which does without a reason. Erdogan drops bombs towomen and kids - he hits the root of terrorism..... Apart from that, he helps ISIS gain more power as the Kurds was a strong Barrier and stopped the ISIS dominance. He just started this invasion in order to strengthen the migrant waves and push pressure to Europe.
@Naida_BR who’ll punish Turkey as the UN who’s existence is left only on paper, or the EU who’s decided to stay away from this war? Trump won’t bother punishing Turkey unless it crosses a line, and no one really knows what that line actually is and hence Turkey won’t be punished. I’m not sure what Trump got for allowing this massacre, but if I were to take a wild guess then I would say he’s got some valuable information on Biden from Turkey officials in exchange for the withdrawal of US forces. https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1181232249821388801?lang=en
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October 11, 2019, 01:42:45 PM |
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The deep state needs a major war, or wars, to realign the world banking system. They also need to "rescue" many countries with social ranking systems to enable them to create a global state. There will be more wars arriving, and they will merge into a great war.
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October 11, 2019, 02:42:39 PM |
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To the deep state, you mention belong big companies producing guns. It is not about realigning the bank system. They own already all the money of the world. They don't need more. All they want is power. The power to control the fate of other countries. What they want is to sell more guns, and you need them when you have a war. The deep state needs a major war, or wars, to realign the world banking system. They also need to "rescue" many countries with social ranking systems to enable them to create a global state. There will be more wars arriving, and they will merge into a great war.
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October 11, 2019, 02:49:14 PM |
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I hope that Turkey is going to be destroyed after this massacre which does without a reason. Erdogan drops bombs towomen and kids - he hits the root of terrorism..... Apart from that, he helps ISIS gain more power as the Kurds was a strong Barrier and stopped the ISIS dominance. He just started this invasion in order to strengthen the migrant waves and push pressure to Europe.
Your subject is wrong. Turkey does NOT invade Syria, they just walk into Syrian Kurdistan making a few big powera a favour. 1) save american taxpayers some dollars 2) saves russian to bomb them and put them in line 3) give erdogan another chance to proove himself as the new grand mufi he desire so much to be
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October 11, 2019, 04:54:16 PM |
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I hope that Turkey is going to be destroyed after this massacre which does without a reason. Erdogan drops bombs towomen and kids - he hits the root of terrorism..... Apart from that, he helps ISIS gain more power as the Kurds was a strong Barrier and stopped the ISIS dominance. He just started this invasion in order to strengthen the migrant waves and push pressure to Europe.
@Naida_BR who’ll punish Turkey as the UN who’s existence is left only on paper, or the EU who’s decided to stay away from this war? Trump won’t bother punishing Turkey unless it crosses a line, and no one really knows what that line actually is and hence Turkey won’t be punished. I’m not sure what Trump got for allowing this massacre, but if I were to take a wild guess then I would say he’s got some valuable information on Biden from Turkey officials in exchange for the withdrawal of US forces. https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1181232249821388801?lang=enYou are right. The UN does absolutely nothing and it is so frustrating. The US should punish them. In other occasions they would have already done it, but Trump is so stupid maybe stoned that he cannot realized what he did by giving them the right to invade Syria...
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October 11, 2019, 06:27:36 PM |
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I saw so many people being quick to blame the US for withdrawing but none of those blame Turkey for actually invading. Which is ridiculous. And to think the Kurds were on the frontline against ISIS. Nothing related to Islam . The plan from the beginning 2011, called also the arabic spring, was to divide the syrian territory as the syrian people is already devided into many sectes and tribes. Great divisions are inside the islamic majority of people, (sunnah,shiaa,alawi,ismaili,...) so there happened a call up for criminels ISIS to invade territory but they failed establishing a real governance due to many reasons. Now i think it's time to use an organised army to complete the mission. Turquia is responsible for all misery happened to the Syrians during the last decenny.
So you think Turkey was behind ISIS?
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October 11, 2019, 06:45:35 PM |
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So you think Turkey was behind ISIS?
Absolutely not. It's not an exact statement that Turkey is behind it but Ardogan YES. Turkey is redponsible for every fighter and piece of arm crossed the border to Syria. Do you know how much Tunisians joined the war by simply traveling from Tunisia to Lybie then to Turkey or even directly to Turkey because it's a Visa free. Who was responsible for Tons of arms crossed the boards during several years? Can you tell me why Turkey government support some group of fighters classified as terrorists by the syrian government "Front of Nosra"? If he is not behind it, then i think ISIS did really enjoyed such a Turkish neighborhood .
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October 11, 2019, 08:21:04 PM |
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He just started this invasion in order to strengthen the migrant waves and push pressure to Europe.
This is super dumb statement. Since for Syrians to reach Europe they need to cross Turkey. Why would he want more refugees? There is already huge number of Syrian refuges in Turkey. Most are in Jordan. Plan and goals are different. Refugees are just what comes with wars in 20th and 21th century.
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October 12, 2019, 07:28:21 AM |
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So you think Turkey was behind ISIS?
Absolutely not. It's not an exact statement that Turkey is behind it but Ardogan YES. Turkey is redponsible for every fighter and piece of arm crossed the border to Syria. Do you know how much Tunisians joined the war by simply traveling from Tunisia to Lybie then to Turkey or even directly to Turkey because it's a Visa free. Who was responsible for Tons of arms crossed the boards during several years? Can you tell me why Turkey government support some group of fighters classified as terrorists by the syrian government "Front of Nosra"? If he is not behind it, then i think ISIS did really enjoyed such a Turkish neighborhood . That's totally correct. We definitely don't blame the whole nation, but Erdogan. He makes this mess in the Middle East for his own benefit. This situation is positive for him as the instability of the area there "gives" him power. It was also known that he was giving aid to ISIS as there were freights with arms that was going to ISIS territories and caught by Russians before they deliver them to the terrorists.
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October 12, 2019, 02:03:42 PM |
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European countries are hypocrite because they have never accepted refugees but Turkey accepted 5 million refugees. Why Turkey should be babysitter? In Turkey, we want to create new Northern Syria to sent refugees to their country. PKK/YPG invaded their country and killed many of them. All of the weapons that used by ISIS are belong to USA or Russia but you always complain Turkey. What a lie, ISIS attacked us many times because we always fight with radical islamists. Turkey is a REPUBLIC.
That's an interesting opinion. So all those murders and attacks in France, Germany, The UK, Italy, and many more, wasn't done by refugees. Nobody is accepting them but Turkey, the savior state. Turkey should not be a babysitter, but why should any country accept rapefugees who can't adapt? When you go to another country it doesn't have to change for you. You have to change or leave. I will always say that when an army of a country leaves its borders and moves to another country it's an invasion. You can call it something else like a stabilization or a mission, but it is what it is.
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October 13, 2019, 11:01:14 AM |
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If European politicians continue to be hypocritical, we will open borders and your countries will be invaded by refugees.
Threats? And last time I checked Turkey wanted to be in the EU. You can open your borders but it won't matter since you are not in the EU and will only cause barricades and armed forces to be set up in Bulgaria and Greece. You can open your side of the border but there's still the Eastern border of the EU. Your media and politicians are puppets. We don’t want to live with a lot refugees. Turkey is savior state in Middle-East. If you don't want more refugees coming to your country, don’t vote for puppet politicians like Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron. Support TURKEY to protect NATIONAL COUNTRIES.
I don't vote for those socialists. All EU Countries were invaded by refugees. Capitalists are trying to invade all national countries for new slave system. We’ll fight them. They never win against us. Not all. Some are doing perfectly fine like Hungary and Poland. No refugees there. Any thoughts on EU embargo as an answer to your invasion of Syria?
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October 14, 2019, 06:41:41 PM |
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European countries are hypocrite because they have never accepted refugees but Turkey accepted 5 million refugees. Why Turkey should be babysitter? In Turkey, we want to create new Northern Syria to sent refugees to their country. PKK/YPG invaded their country and killed many of them. All of the weapons that used by ISIS are belong to USA or Russia but you always complain Turkey. What a lie, ISIS attacked us many times because we always fight with radical islamists. Turkey is a REPUBLIC.
First of all, all countries buy weapons from Russians or Americans. You don't know if the weapons ar edelivered directly to ISIS from the Russians or Americans OR Erdogan delivered to them... Europe has accepted so many refugees and they keep accepting them, this is why refugees keep traveling to Europe. And last but not least, "In Turkey, we want to create new Northern Syria" - why should you alter a country? is it yours to do so?
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October 15, 2019, 08:34:43 AM |
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New Northern Syria means we will build new houses and apartments to sent Syrian refugees from Turkey and EU to Syria. People will go back their country and immigration problem will be solved for Turkey and Europe... [/quote]Did Erdogan guaranteed to build new houses and apartments...? Or your own assumption? Do you really believe in your mass-media? They are manipulating people about Middle-East.
Private media or state owned media make no difference at all. They all work according to their own benefits. Western media are annoying and bias but at least they can anything and even against their own government and leaders. Can Saudi, Turkey, China, Qatar... media do the same? So which one is actually better? Even if are all Muslim, we are not like catholic, we are like protestant.
Did your parents teached you to disrespect Catholics and Protestants? Then how can the world be a better place for all? 30 percent of population are deist or atheist included me.
Are you? Care to explain a little more?
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October 15, 2019, 02:22:52 PM |
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European countries are hypocrite because they have never accepted refugees but Turkey accepted 5 million refugees. Why Turkey should be babysitter? In Turkey, we want to create new Northern Syria to sent refugees to their country. PKK/YPG invaded their country and killed many of them. All of the weapons that used by ISIS are belong to USA or Russia but you always complain Turkey. What a lie, ISIS attacked us many times because we always fight with radical islamists. Turkey is a REPUBLIC.
First of all, all countries buy weapons from Russians or Americans. You don't know if the weapons ar edelivered directly to ISIS from the Russians or Americans OR Erdogan delivered to them... Europe has accepted so many refugees and they keep accepting them, this is why refugees keep traveling to Europe. And last but not least, "In Turkey, we want to create new Northern Syria" - why should you alter a country? is it yours to do so? Why buy weapons? To be more confident, compared to other countries, about refugees and migrants, Europe will not close its borders for 5 years
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October 15, 2019, 02:43:13 PM |
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Even if we don’t like Erdogan, we are supporting him because we have to protect our country from terrorist attacks. We must protect our children, friends, family.
I remember that here, on forum, was one guy from Turkey which told that Erdogan is one who supports ISIS and give them shelter in Turkey. And i don't remember about whom he told it. I just remember that he calls someone to be Erdogan propagandists on this forum and former ISIS soldier. Trying to remember who was this guy and about what guy he talked ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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